DOVE-Net is coming through fine here.
I did miss some messages, but think that my script may have borked....
it's working once again. I am experienceing some latency with telnet...
but somehow think AT&T is throttleing me.
telnet uses almost no bw. you are just having isp problems.
ALLEN PRUNTY wrote to VK3JED <=-
DOVE-Net is coming through fine here.
I did miss some messages, but think that my script may have borked.... it's working once again. I am experienceing some latency with
telnet... but somehow think AT&T is throttleing me.
telnet uses almost no bw. you are just having isp problems.
AT&T is legendary for throtteling... I have a way around it by using
Astrill VPN.
throttling what type of traffic? they wouldnt throttle telnet traffic.
Throttling me all the way since I've been downloading a lot this month.
I know I've pulled down at least 4 TB. (netflix habit) I've noticed my servie always gets slow at the end of the month.
just switch to torrent sites and download the tv shows you like. that should cut it down.
Re: Re: Dovenet and slow teln
By: ALLEN PRUNTY to MRO on Tue May 24 2016 10:08 am
Throttling me all the way since I've been downloading a lot this month.
I know I've pulled down at least 4 TB. (netflix habit) I've noticed my servie always gets slow at the end of the month.
just switch to torrent sites and download the tv shows you like. that should cut it down.
Re: Re: Dovenet and slow teln
By: Mro to ALLEN PRUNTY on Tue May 24 2016 10:22 pm
just switch to torrent sites and download the tv shows you like. that should cut it down.
Are there anyt good torrent site left out there?
just switch to torrent sites and download the tv shows you like. that should cut it down.
That's not something proper for someone who is retired Law Enforcement
to do. Before I worked for Level 3 (my mundane job) I worked for an alphabet department.
whats so bad about downloading tv? who's getting hurt
whats so bad about downloading tv? who's getting hurt
whats so bad about downloading tv? who's getting hurt
I agree it is not hurting anything, plus it is braodcast over the air on some channels and can be recorded on a VCR, DVD or DVR and played back later.
Nightfox wrote to Mojo <=-
I agree, but at the same time, if the TV show is sold on
DVD/blu-ray/etc., I'm sure they'd prefer that consumers buy them rather than download them (of course, watching them on traditional
ad-supported TV helps them make money too). The same thing goes with movies - Sometimes TV stations will broadcast a movie, and you can
record them on a DVR, VCR, etc., but you could also buy or rent a copy
of the movie.
whats so bad about downloading tv? who's getting hurt
Ever wonder why your favorite shows get cancelled? Often illegal
Plus you never know what your system is passing back and forth along
with the tv show. You may have an alphabet dept knocking on your door
to explain why some "kiddie porn" passed through your system.
there... baited torrent sites to entrap you. I don't agree with the
tactic but it does hold up in court.
Re: Re: Dovenet and slow teln
By: Mro to ALLEN PRUNTY on Wed May 25 2016 09:02 pm
whats so bad about downloading tv? who's getting hurt
I agree it is not hurting anything, plus it is braodcast over the air on some channels and can be recorded on a VCR, DVD or DVR and played back later.
I agree, but at the same time, if the TV show is sold on DVD/blu-ray/etc., I'm sure they'd prefer that consumers buy them rather than download them
(of course, watching them on traditional ad-supported TV helps them make money too). The same thing goes with movies - Sometimes TV stations will broadcast a movie, and you can record them on a DVR, VCR, etc., but you could also buy or rent a copy of the movie.
I agree, but at the same time, if the TV show is sold on DVD/blu-ray/etc., I'm sure they'd prefer that consumers buy them rather than download them (of course, watching them on traditional ad-supported TV helps them make money too). The same thing goes with movies - Sometimes TV stations will broadcast
a movie, and you can record them on a DVR, VCR, etc., but you could also buy or rent a copy of the movie.
you dont really have an understanding of torrent technology.
there is no kiddy porn mixed in with swarms.
there... baited torrent sites to entrap you. I don't agree with the
tactic but it does hold up in court.
nobody is going to take me to court for downloading tv shows.
it's like cutting off their nose to spite their face.
they'd spend more money than what they would get from me and they cant claim damages.
nobody is going to take me to court for downloading tv shows.
it's like cutting off their nose to spite their face.
they'd spend more money than what they would get from me and they cant claim damages.
you dont really have an understanding of torrent technology.
there is no kiddy porn mixed in with swarms.
Oh really, I have -PLENTY- of experience with torrents, investigating torrenting, packet sniffing and prosecution. Are you sure that bits and pieces of other things aren't being distributed while you are downloading? Are you REALLY sure <evil grin> trust me I've seen more than my fair share of this downfall.
Universal/NBC - Aggressively prosecutes anyone downloading anything that's forsale on a DVD. Especially off air shows like Stargate.
Only advice I can say is NEVER - EVER - EVER use a public tracker. Some of them are actually passing torrents to Universal's honeypot.
I seem to remember hearing in the news a few years ago that the movie industry was getting serious about cracking down on people downloading movies & TV shows & such. I thought I heard of a case or two where people were fined.
also in other countries people who are fans of american shows are
getting royally fucked by not having any avaliability to these shows
until a year or more later.
I seem to remember hearing in the news a few years ago that the movie
industry was getting serious about cracking down on people downloading
movies & TV shows & such. I thought I heard of a case or two where
people were fined.
i dont believe they care about the average joe downloading a movie. they want the people who get it from post production contractors and other sources. these people harm the movies [or so they say] by leaking this content.
I've heard studios are indeed trying to go after people downloading movies
& TV shows. For example, this article from last year talks about Warner Brothers going after people illegally downloading 'Friends': http://bit.ly/25mzCkG
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whats so bad about downloading tv? who's getting hurt
Ever wonder why your favorite shows get cancelled? Often illegal downloads take away from the neilson set-top box ratings. Even if a
show is DVR'ed on a cable box a vote is cast that it was recorded or watched.
VK3JED wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-
The media companies to bring some of this on themselves. Some of the things they do that encourage piracy include:
The media companies to bring some of this on themselves. Some of the things they do that encourage piracy include:
Sorry, but I don't think they 'encourage piracy.' They may have reason for all of these things - valid reasons.
I buy my shows on iTunes - the ones that I want to watch NOW - the
rest I catch on Netflix 'next year...'
By doing this you actually keep the shows in development. iTunes reports
to Neilson as a "watch" on the show. So does the fox apps and on demand on your cable box.
MRO wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
The media companies to bring some of this on themselves. Some of the things they do that encourage piracy include:
Sorry, but I don't think they 'encourage piracy.' They may have reason for all of these things - valid reasons.
hell yeah they encourage piracy.
the proof is in the pudding. there's
been many years of proof that the various industries lack of keeping up with techonology and giving people what they want has created a void
that 'piracy' has filled.
stuff isnt avaliable on dvd but you can easily get it in 1080p by downloading. that's not smart. why not have it available for streaming/downloading/ for a small fee?
ALLEN PRUNTY wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I buy my shows on iTunes - the ones that I want to watch NOW - the
rest I catch on Netflix 'next year...'
By doing this you actually keep the shows in development. iTunes
reports to Neilson as a "watch" on the show. So does the fox apps and
on demand on your cable box.
There are plenty of ways to legitimately watch your shows.
By doing this you actually keep the shows in development. iTunes reports to Neilson as a "watch" on the show. So does the fox apps and on demand on your cable box.
There are plenty of ways to legitimately watch your shows.
Ageeed.
The media companies to bring some of this on themselves. Some of the things they do that encourage piracy include:
Sorry, but I don't think they 'encourage piracy.' They may have reason for all of these things - valid reasons.
hell yeah they encourage piracy.
So they 'encourage' piracy? They 'encourage' breaking the law?
As a producer of original content I fully sympathize with them! My CD's
are available via a live show or I can mail one to you. I also make the music available on Spotify, Amazon & iTunes. I don't release it on cassesstte or 8 track or vinyl. Am I encouraging piracy if someone wants
it on these formats because I don't offer it? Am I encouraging piracy because I don't give away downloads?
the proof is in the pudding. there's
been many years of proof that the various industries lack of keeping
up with techonology and giving people what they want has created a
void that 'piracy' has filled.
Creating a void? Yes. They may have decided it was not worth the expense
to publish in certain ways, but no where do they sit in a room and say, "let's encourage people breaking the law because we're stupid."
stuff isnt avaliable on dvd but you can easily get it in 1080p by downloading. that's not smart. why not have it available for streaming/downloading/ for a small fee?
If they do will all the people that download now start paying for it?
Or will they continue to d/l for free because they don't think they
should have to pay the content creators?
reports to Neilson as a "watch" on the show. So does the fox apps and on demand on your cable box.
There are plenty of ways to legitimately watch your shows.
Ageeed.
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to MRO <=-
So they 'encourage' piracy? They 'encourage' breaking the law?
As a producer of original content I fully sympathize with them! My CD's are available via a live show or I can mail one to you. I also make the music available on Spotify, Amazon & iTunes. I don't release it on cassesstte or 8 track or vinyl. Am I encouraging piracy if someone
wants it on these formats because I don't offer it? Am I encouraging piracy because I don't give away downloads?
I own the content and as the owner I choose what methods to pay money
to have it out there. Yes, it costs me money to release via iTunes, Amazon, etc. If I had chosen NOT to do those, would you say I was encouraging piracy because I only made it available as a physcial CD?
the proof is in the pudding. there's
been many years of proof that the various industries lack of keeping up with techonology and giving people what they want has created a void
that 'piracy' has filled.
But still a long way to go. The cinema priority is a bugbear, as I have a partner who doesn't enjoy the cinema experience (that's why we have a big screen TV and surround sound :) ), so we're effectively discriminated against, because the medium of first release is unusable for us. So yes, there have been downloads to catch up, but now there's legitimate copies on DVD or Blu-Ray sitting on the shelf.
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