I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm
on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do
suffer from semi-frequent lockups. I'm not sure if it's something to do with PuTTY, a configuration setting on my side or if it's just a fact of life connecting to a BBS via telnet.

I don't get an error message, it just freezes. When I close PuTTY and
restart it when I get back to the BBS I'm still listed as online for a few minutes. Then eventually the system tosses me and I can get back on again.

I'd welcome thoughts and feedback. Thanks!

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Doc Havoc to All on Thu Jan 07 2016 07:34 pm

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do suffer from semi-frequent lockups. I'm not sure if it's something to do with PuTTY, a configuration setting on my side or if it's just a fact of life connecting to a BBS via telnet.

I don't get an error message, it just freezes. When I close PuTTY and restart it when I get back to the BBS I'm still listed as online for a few minutes. Then eventually the system tosses me and I can get back on again.

you should probably use syncterm or qodem on linux.
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Re: Telnet Client
By: Doc Havoc to All on Thu Jan 07 2016 07:34 pm

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm on Linux here and using PuTTY.

I use SyncTERM, but that's because I wrote it.

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I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do suffer from semi-frequent lockups. I'm not sure if it's something to do with PuTTY, a configuration setting on my side or if it's just a fact of life connecting to a BBS via telnet.

I don't get an error message, it just freezes. When I close PuTTY and restart it when I get back to the BBS I'm still listed as online for a few minutes. Then eventually the system tosses me and I can get back on

again.

I'd welcome thoughts and feedback. Thanks!

It's not normal for an app to freeze up like that.. I'd probably recommend using a different telnet client. I didn't think PuTTY supported file
transfers or proper ANSI BBS emulation anyway (at least, not without extra configuration). These are probably my favorite BBS telnet clients:

SyncTerm:
http://syncterm.bbsdev.net/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/syncterm/

NetRunner:
http://mysticbbs.com/downloads.html

Nightfox

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On 1/7/2016 6:34 PM, Doc Havoc wrote:

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm
on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do

Syncterm is so awesome, I've come back from out of nowhere to say how
awesome it is.

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Dreamer to DOVE-Net.General on Sun Jan 10 2016 09:17 am

On 1/7/2016 6:34 PM, Doc Havoc wrote:

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client.
I'm on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do

Syncterm is so awesome, I've come back from out of nowhere to say how awesome it is.

yeah it's not my go-to client on windows, but i do use it on linux because other linux ansi-capable telnet clients are a bit of a pain. i think last time i tried qodem i had issues. i dont like the way netrunner scales everything larger.
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Re: Telnet Client
By: Dreamer to DOVE-Net.General on Sun Jan 10 2016 09:17 am

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do

Syncterm is so awesome, I've come back from out of nowhere to say how awesome it is.

Heh thanks, I personally don't think it's all that awesome, but the one feature it has that I like is that it WORKS.

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Doc Havoc to All on Thu Jan 07 2016 07:34 pm

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do suffer from semi-frequent lockups. I'm not sure if it's something to do with PuTTY, a configuration setting on my side or if it's just a fact of life connecting to a BBS via telnet.

I prefer ZOC Terminal I found to be the best Terminal Program ever. I like mTelnet
if you run Windows XP. ZOC has soo many more features then Putty.. I used to be a putty fan
till I found ZOC. Zoc has all the terminal types you could ever need. I use it for SSH to my
linux servers everyday. You can several sessions open at the same time and click between them.
Configure it for ANSI BBS and your good to go. Has I host directory. You probably won't use
putty again. No lock up problems with ZOC. Not sure what your problem may be. Let me know
what you think if you try ZOC.

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Deuce to Doc Havoc on Fri Jan 08 2016 01:04 pm

I use SyncTERM, but that's because I wrote it.

Great for linux. Wished I could full screen it better. More options for screen settings.
Wished it was in the portage tree for gentoo or apt-get ubuntu. SyncTERM great program better
then trying to use the standard telnet client. I could never get linux telnet to display ansi.

Thanks for that one.

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Doc Havoc to All on Thu Jan 07 2016 07:34 pm

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do suffer from semi-frequent lockups. I'm not sure if it's something to do wit PuTTY, a configuration setting on my side or if it's just a fact of life connecting to a BBS via telnet.

I don't get an error message, it just freezes. When I close PuTTY and restart it when I get back to the BBS I'm still listed as online for a few minutes. Then eventually the system tosses me and I can get back on again.

I'd welcome thoughts and feedback. Thanks!

I just use telnet from a bash prompt, but I'm not much into ansi so a little asci mess doesn't bother me much. :) Speak of which- I just re-installed Fedora 23 and (re)discovered that telnet is no longer installed by default in the mate spin. WTF!?!

Next thing ya know they'll try to depricate YUM... ;)

Jethro


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Re: Telnet Client
By: Timesoarer to Deuce on Sun Jan 10 2016 06:53 pm

Great for linux. Wished I could full screen it better. More options for screen settings.

What problems are you having with full screen, and what options for screen settings would you suggest?

Wished it was in the portage tree for gentoo or apt-get ubuntu.

Ragnorok is working on getting it into the Debian repo as I recall... once it's there it's likely to hit the Ubuntu repo too I bet.

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Doc Havoc to All on Thu Jan 07 2016 07:34 pm

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do suffer from semi-frequent lockups. I'm not sure if it's something to do wit PuTTY, a configuration setting on my side or if it's just a fact of life connecting to a BBS via telnet.

I don't get an error message, it just freezes. When I close PuTTY and restart it when I get back to the BBS I'm still listed as online for a few minutes. Then eventually the system tosses me and I can get back on again.

I'd welcome thoughts and feedback. Thanks!

Personally, right this minute, I am using Telemate in DosBox at work. At home, I use Procomm Plus 4.8 on my Windows PC. I know both of these programs are way old, but they work for me.

Jeff in Austrlia.

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El 11/01/16 a las 04:02, Deuce escribió:

Re: Telnet Client
By: Timesoarer to Deuce on Sun Jan 10 2016 06:53 pm

Great for linux. Wished I could full screen it better. More options for screen settings.

What problems are you having with full screen, and what options for screen settings would you suggest?

Wished it was in the portage tree for gentoo or apt-get ubuntu.

Ragnorok is working on getting it into the Debian repo as I recall... once it's
there it's likely to hit the Ubuntu repo too I bet.

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Debian package for SyncTerm is under review from debian developers. I
hope that enter to debian archive asap.

Saludos!

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El 10/01/16 a las 18:36, Deuce escribió:

Re: Telnet Client
By: Dreamer to DOVE-Net.General on Sun Jan 10 2016 09:17 am

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm
on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do

Syncterm is so awesome, I've come back from out of nowhere to say how awesome it is.

Heh thanks, I personally don't think it's all that awesome, but the one feature
it has that I like is that it WORKS.

Yes simple and functional. Syncterm is the only one ansi captable bbs
client that works on gnu/Linux.

to wish list: make terminal part as library/widget. Its permit to
another developers that use it and embed on qt/gtk o whatever interface toolkit.
thit widget may expose an ap that connect/disconnet, movexy, drawing etc..

=)

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El 11/01/16 a las 15:37, Ragnarok escribió:

El 10/01/16 a las 18:36, Deuce escribió:

Re: Telnet Client
By: Dreamer to DOVE-Net.General on Sun Jan 10 2016 09:17 am

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm
on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do >> >

Syncterm is so awesome, I've come back from out of nowhere to say how
awesome it is.

Heh thanks, I personally don't think it's all that awesome, but the one feature
it has that I like is that it WORKS.

Yes simple and functional. Syncterm is the only one ansi captable bbs
client that works on gnu/Linux.

to wish list: make terminal part as library/widget. Its permit to
another developers that use it and embed on qt/gtk o whatever interface toolkit.
thit widget may expose an ap that connect/disconnet, movexy, drawing etc..

=)

thiS widget may expose anY apI that connect/disconnet, movexy, drawing etc..

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Ragnarok to Deuce on Mon Jan 11 2016 03:37 pm

to wish list: make terminal part as library/widget. Its permit to
another developers that use it and embed on qt/gtk o whatever interface toolkit.
thit widget may expose an ap that connect/disconnet, movexy, drawing etc..

It actually is done that way... SyncTERM uses the "CTerm" bit of my conio library, and the conio library is designed to support multiple drawing backends... it already supports Win32 console, curses, SDL, and X11 for drawing.

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On 1/11/2016 12:30 PM, Ragnarok wrote:

Debian package for SyncTerm is under review from debian developers. I
hope that enter to debian archive asap.

That's awesome, thanks for the work!

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On 1/10/2016 10:10 PM, Jethro wrote:

I just use telnet from a bash prompt, but I'm not much into ansi so a little asci mess doesn't bother me much. :) Speak of which- I just re-installed Fedora
23 and (re)discovered that telnet is no longer installed by default in the mate
spin. WTF!?!

Next thing ya know they'll try to depricate YUM... ;)

For a second there, I thought you were serious and I was about to
correct you...LOL

I took Intro to PC OS (if I'd known how THAT was going to go, I would
have talked to someone about testing out of it...) last semester, and it covered both Linux and Windows. We had an adjunct instructor filling in
since the primary instructor resigned, and she didn't know anything
about Linux. At one point I had to help rewrite a lab, because she
insisted on going outside of the book (it was written for a deprecated
Fedora version, she wanted to do the latest...nothing matched up with
the labs correctly).

Anyways, for some reason for three of us, doing a package update with
DNF completely crapped out. I don't remember now exactly how I wound up recovering it, but it was some archaic shit involving deep directories.
I think there was an error buried somewhere in the Python traceback that tipped me off to the problem...

I'm pretty sure no one in that class will ever use Linux again. I know
my opinion of Fedora and DNF has gone down a few notches.

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Jeff Friend to Doc Havoc on Mon Jan 11 2016 02:24 pm

Personally, right this minute, I am using Telemate in DosBox at work. At home, I use Procomm Plus 4.8 on my Windows PC. I know both of these programs are way old, but they work for me.

Rock on. Loved Telemate.

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Ragnarok to Deuce on Mon Jan 11 2016 03:30 pm

Ragnorok is working on getting it into the Debian repo as I recall...
once it's there it's likely to hit the Ubuntu repo too I bet.

I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE on my lubuntu box.

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I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE on my lubuntu box.

Wait .. wut ... why?

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Poindexter Fortran to Ragnarok on Tue Jan 12 2016 07:09 am

Ragnorok is working on getting it into the Debian repo as I recall...
once it's there it's likely to hit the Ubuntu repo too I bet.

I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE on my lubuntu box.

Why not build it lubuntu? I don't actually have it built ATM either but it was sweet when I had a look a few months back.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Poindexter Fortran to Ragnarok on Tue Jan 12 2016 07:09 am

Ragnorok is working on getting it into the Debian repo as I recall...
once it's there it's likely to hit the Ubuntu repo too I bet.

I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE on my lubuntu box.

You've grabbed the source from http://sourceforge.net/projects/syncterm/ and built it for Linux now though right?

RIGHT?

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Doc Havoc to All on Thu Jan 07 2016 07:34 pm

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do suffer from semi-frequent lockups. I'm not sure if it's something to do with PuTTY, a configuration setting on my side or if it's just a fact of life connecting to a BBS via telnet.

I don't get an error message, it just freezes. When I close PuTTY and restart it when I get back to the BBS I'm still listed as online for a few minutes. Then eventually the system tosses me and I can get back on again.

I'd welcome thoughts and feedback. Thanks!

I'm on Linux, and I'm currently using Syncterm. It's easily the best term program I've used for BBSing. At least on Linux (I can't speak to all the stuff available on Windows which is considerably more). Putty and straight telnet from a console lack the great ANSI rendering that Sync has.

That said, I doubt that your issue is Putty related. I would see if people are having similar issues on the BBS you're logging into. It sounds more network
or server related. I've been having issues getting logged into various boards which I'm sure are related to the BBS system (I either can't get in or they freeze sometimes while other boards are fine).

Hope it get's sorted out.

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: echicken to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Jan 12 2016 11:25 am

I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE on
my lubuntu box.

Wait .. wut ... why?

Too lazy to compile it. :(

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Poindexter Fortran to echicken on Tue Jan 12 2016 06:06 pm

I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE on
my lubuntu box.

Wait .. wut ... why?

Too lazy to compile it. :(

I tried building it six ways till sunday and could never get the fonts to look right - I think it's something to do with SDL versions or something. Anyway, I downloaded the binaries from the following site - copied it to /usr/bin/syncterm and it works like a charm. :)

http://l33t.codes/syncterm-1-0-released/

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Al to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Jan 12 2016 10:31 am

Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Poindexter Fortran to Ragnarok on Tue Jan 12 2016 07:09 am

Ragnorok is working on getting it into the Debian repo as I

recall...

once it's there it's likely to hit the Ubuntu repo too I bet.

I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE on my lubuntu box.

Why not build it lubuntu? I don't actually have it built ATM either but it

when someone says ATM i always think ass to mouth
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Re: Telnet Client
By: Christopher Perrault to Doc Havoc on Tue Jan 12 2016 03:44 pm

I'm on Linux, and I'm currently using Syncterm. It's easily the best term program I've used for BBSing. At least on Linux (I can't speak to all the stuff available on Windows which is considerably more). Putty and straight

for windows mtelnet is great.
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Re: Telnet Client
By: Mro to Christopher Perrault on Wed Jan 13 2016 19:16:30

for windows mtelnet is great.

I've found mTelnet to be a little buggy in how it displays some ANSI content. IMO, NetRunner and SyncTerm are better.

Nightfox

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Nightfox to Mro on Wed Jan 13 2016 06:38 pm

Re: Telnet Client
By: Mro to Christopher Perrault on Wed Jan 13 2016 19:16:30

for windows mtelnet is great.

I've found mTelnet to be a little buggy in how it displays some ANSI content. IMO, NetRunner and SyncTerm are better.

i have called pretty much every bbs and the only time i see ansi displayed wrong is when the host system has an ansi that is longer than 80cols long. which is pretty stupid.

i've been using mtelnet for 17 years, and i like the guy who made it so much i mirrored his site when he had life problems.

do you have an example where it had an issue other than the one i stated?
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Re: Telnet Client
By: Poindexter Fortran to Jeff Friend on Tue Jan 12 2016 07:08 am

Re: Telnet Client
By: Jeff Friend to Doc Havoc on Mon Jan 11 2016 02:24 pm

Personally, right this minute, I am using Telemate in DosBox at work. A home, I use Procomm Plus 4.8 on my Windows PC. I know both of these programs are way old, but they work for me.

Rock on. Loved Telemate.

I paid for Telemate back in 1992. And I still have that letter with my registration number. LOL.

Funny, I was looking for a crack for Telemate, could not find one, sent a cheque to White River Software in the USA and 2 dasy after I sent the cheque, I found a crack. Oh well.. Legit copy then :)

Jeff in Australia.

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Mro to Al on Wed Jan 13 2016 07:15 pm

Why not build it lubuntu? I don't actually have it built ATM either but i

when someone says ATM i always think ass to mouth

I aasure you that isn't what I meant!

Ttyl :-),
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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Mro to Al on Wed Jan 13 2016 07:15 pm

when someone says ATM i always think ass to mouth

I had a horrible day today. Really just horrible. That made me laugh out
loud. Thanks man, I really appreciate that. You'll never know how much that helped. :)


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for windows mtelnet is great.

Reminds me, should update my installer with a newer bbs list...
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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: tracker1 to Mro on Fri Jan 15 2016 05:27 pm

for windows mtelnet is great.

Reminds me, should update my installer with a newer bbs list...

bbses come and go so much, i wouldnt really recommend it unless you want write a simple program that polls telnetbbsguide and makes it into mtelnet phonebooks.

or i think he is still distributing phonebooks so add those.

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El 12/01/16 a las 23:06, Poindexter Fortran escribió:

Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: echicken to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Jan 12 2016 11:25 am

I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE on
my lubuntu box.

Wait .. wut ... why?

Too lazy to compile it. :(

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http://repo.bbs.docksud.com.ar/pool/main/s/syncterm/

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Poindexter Fortran to echicken on Tue Jan 12 2016 06:06 pm

Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: echicken to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Jan 12 2016 11:25 am

I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE on
my lubuntu box.

Wait .. wut ... why?

Too lazy to compile it. :(

I remember when I went from Mageia to Centos on my desktop machine. When I tried to compile Syncterm I had all sorts of issues with it. I can't remember the exact error(s), but in summary, I think the libaries on Centos didn't jive with what Sync was expecting, so I just gave up.

Recently I was on the Syncterm web page again and downloaded the binary tarball. I thought it was source againt until I split it open.

I was pleasantly surprised that A) It was the binary and B) it fired right
up. I got lucky I guess, but I agree, compilation issues can be too much of a PITA to fight through unless it's something I really need.

I'm guessing most people already had this piece figured out, but for those in the same boat as me, I got the binary at:

http://syncterm.bbsdev.net/syncterm-linux.gz

Not sure how it works on non-rhel derivatives.

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Mro to Christopher Perrault on Wed Jan 13 2016 07:16 pm

for windows mtelnet is great.

I agree. That is one of the ones I've used back when I was running XP. I haven't used it on Win 8 yet. Does anyone know if it runs ok on 8 or 10?

Back in the day even the Windows telnet client was ok (compared to how linux renders the Ansi by default), but mtelnet and syncterm were probably the best I used on Windows.

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Al to Mro on Thu Jan 14 2016 08:43 am

Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Mro to Al on Wed Jan 13 2016 07:15 pm

Why not build it lubuntu? I don't actually have it built ATM either bu

when someone says ATM i always think ass to mouth

I aasure you that isn't what I meant!

Ttyl :-),
Al

Hey, what the hell. More incentive to compile from source I guess (depending on how it plays out) lol.

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Mro to Christopher Perrault on Wed Jan 13 2016 07:16 pm

for windows mtelnet is great.

That program worked great under XP. I like to ALT-ENT full screen that program
some versions of windows they took that out. All though there is a work around.. Can't rememeber how
to trick it to do a alt-enter full screen. Since I found ZOC Terminal. Haven't used anything else
SyncTerm is the best for Linux. There is a tweak for Linux to get the telnet client to do ansi but can't
remember that either. With a console that is configured correctly ANSI should work I hav0e 2 linux boxes one
gentoo one ubuntu I had problems compiling it on gentoo but compiled fine on ubuntu and copied that over all
works fine?
Anyone remember GregE Term? something like that.. I think it was a CoCo Termianl?

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Doc Havoc to Mro on Thu Jan 14 2016 07:30 pm

when someone says ATM i always think ass to mouth

You have been listening too much to Bob & Tom.

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I had a horrible day today. Really just horrible. That made me laugh out loud. Thanks man, I really appreciate that. You'll never know how much that helped. :)

Did Mro just do some ATM on you? I bet it felt great! LOL

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Chris to Al on Sat Jan 16 2016 12:13 am

Hey, what the hell. More incentive to compile from source I guess (depending how it plays out) lol.

I just compiled it and it plays out very well. Nice to have SSH for boards that support it.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Chris to Mro on Sat Jan 16 2016 12:11 am

Back in the day even the Windows telnet client was ok (compared to how linux renders the Ansi by default), but mtelnet and syncterm were probably the bes used on Windows.

I used mtelnet on OS/2 back in the day.. it was the solution at the time.

Ansi renders fine on this slackware box. Most times I just use telnet at the console and use SyncTERM or NetRunner if I need zmodem capabilities.

If I set my terminal to utf-8 it only looks right if I am on a board that is using utf-8, not many that I know of so by default my terminal is still en_CA or en_US.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Poindexter Fortran to Ragnarok on Tue Jan 12 2016 07:09:02

I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE on my lubuntu box.

Of all people! WTF! ;)

-D/K

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Timesoarer to Mro on Fri Jan 15 2016 10:16 pm

for windows mtelnet is great.

That program worked great under XP. I like to ALT-ENT full screen that program some versions of windows they took that out. All though there is a work around.. Can't rememeber how to trick it to do a alt-enter full

you cant go full screen in vista+
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-=[ On 01-07-16 19:34, Doc Havoc wrote to All below: ]=-
-=[ Re: Telnet Client ]=-

Hi Doc Havoc!

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client.

I'm using ZOC terminal and currently running on MacOS. It also has a windows client that you might be able to run in Linux via wine. It is very stable and haven't had any issues with it what so ever :)

Cheers,

Bryan
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-=[ On 01-14-16 16:06, Jeff Friend wrote to Poindexter Fortran below: ]=-
-=[ Re: Telnet Client ]=-

Hi Jeff Friend!

Rock on. Loved Telemate.

I paid for Telemate back in 1992. And I still have that letter with my registration number. LOL.

Funny, I was looking for a crack for Telemate, could not find one, sent
a cheque to White River Software in the USA and 2 dasy after I sent the cheque, I found a crack. Oh well.. Legit copy then :)

If the company is still around :)

Cheers,

Bryan
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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Chris to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jan 16 2016 12:06 am

http://syncterm.bbsdev.net/syncterm-linux.gz

That is an old build and not recomended.

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Khelair to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jan 16 2016 07:37 am

Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Poindexter Fortran to Ragnarok on Tue Jan 12 2016 07:09:02

I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE
on my lubuntu box.

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Khelair to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jan 16 2016 07:37 am

Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Poindexter Fortran to Ragnarok on Tue Jan 12 2016 07:09:02

I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE
on my lubuntu box.

I am too. I got tired of all of the errors, compile problems, and everything else with the linux versions.

It was faster, easier, and works perfectly to run SyncTerm in PlayonLinux (wine). Works fine.

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Chad Adams to Khelair on Sun Jan 17 2016 20:05:06

I'm embarrassed to say I'm running Syncterm for Windows under WINE
on my lubuntu box.

I am too. I got tired of all of the errors, compile problems, and everything else with the linux versions.

30 lashes and a few dozen hail marys should have you cleared right up.

-D/K

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Ragnarok to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jan 16 2016 01:27 am

can you test and confirm me if these packages can run in your ubuntu?

http://repo.bbs.docksud.com.ar/pool/main/s/syncterm/

Thanks, I'll try them a little later.

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Chad Adams to Khelair on Sun Jan 17 2016 08:05 pm

I am too. I got tired of all of the errors, compile problems, and everything else with the linux versions.

What errors and compile problems did you have?

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Doc Havoc to All on Thu Jan 07 2016 07:34 pm

I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do suffer from semi-frequent lockups. I'm not sure if it's something to do wit PuTTY, a configuration setting on my side or if it's just a fact of life connecting to a BBS via telnet.

Right now I am using PuTTY on my G3 PPC under Debian. It runs quite will and I don't experience any lockups. I also use my.ftelnet.ca, which works very well and I believe the ANSI looks much better then PuTTY. I have never run SyncTerm, but have heard good things about it. Of course I can almost never seem to get anything to compile and the one version I did find as a binary did not seem to run for some reason. I may just try again sometime.

- Mr. Cool

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Mr. Cool to Doc Havoc on Tue Jan 19 2016 07:02 pm

Right now I am using PuTTY on my G3 PPC under Debian. It runs quite will and I don't experience any lockups. I also use my.ftelnet.ca, which works very well and I believe the ANSI looks much better then PuTTY. I have never run SyncTerm, but have heard good things about it. Of course I can almost never seem to get anything to compile and the one version I did find as a binary did not seem to run for some reason. I may just try again sometime.

Yeah, I've also tried to compile SyncTerm on my G3 PowerBook, but no luck. I'd love to have a PPC version that ran under Tiger or Leopard.

I have an old version of SyncTerm which works, but it's from a number of years ago and not as nice as 1.0.

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think last time i tried qodem i had issues. i dont like the way
netrunner scales everything larger.

NetRunner can run a stock DOS font in 1:1 scaling just like SyncTerm, if you want it to. You just have to set your font, scaling option, and filtering to whatever you like in the settings.

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NetRunner can run a stock DOS font in 1:1 scaling just like SyncTerm, if you want it to. You just have to set your font, scaling option, and filtering to whatever you like in the settings.

g00r00, I had an earlier version of NetRunner on my Mac and was looking to upgrade, but I see you no longer have Mac binaries. Any hope of Mac support returning in the future?

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: g00r00 to Mro on Fri Jan 22 2016 01:05 am

think last time i tried qodem i had issues. i dont like the way netrunner scales everything larger.

NetRunner can run a stock DOS font in 1:1 scaling just like SyncTerm, if
you want it to. You just have to set your font, scaling option, and filtering to whatever you like in the settings.

i tried that, it still looks different than syncterm or other clients.

i also dont know why i have to be connected to set the font settings.
also, by default, when i open it again, it is big and stretched out.
i edited the .ini file and changed filter to 0. first i tried deleting the sdl lib like i used to do with syncterm but i guess it wont run without it.


Another weird thing i see in the options is i have
directories, macros, miscellaneous, file transfer, keyboard
i can only go to the first 3 via hitting tab. no clue how to get into the other settings.

i'm not sure if you want to have the stretching be the default option. most of us have quite large displays now and to me it just looks wrong.
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Re: Telnet Client
By: Mr. Cool to Doc Havoc on Tue Jan 19 2016 07:02 pm

You was talking about syncterm.. or having problems compiling it.. My gentoo box
didn't like to compile it either for some reason. Funny thing is I compiled on Ubuntu and it
worked fine.. I copied that over to my gentoo system and it runs fine.

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Timesoarer to Deuce on Sun Jan 10 2016 06:53 pm

I periodically write and submit ebuilds for software on the Gentoo bugzilla. Syncterm is on my todo list. I also maintain an ebuild overlay, but it's currently not listed by layman. I was inactive in maintaining my overlay for the past
year, and it was taken off the layman list along with some other inactive overlays. In any case, you can always file a bug on the Gentoo bugzilla. I or someone else will get to it eventually.

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g00r00, I had an earlier version of NetRunner on my Mac and was looking
to upgrade, but I see you no longer have Mac binaries. Any hope of Mac support returning in the future?

No, unfortunately there isn't much I can do until I get a more recent Mac to work on, or somehow get a VMware that actually works of the newer OS version.

Anything I compile now wouldn't run on any of the newer OSX versions.

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also, by default, when i open it again, it is big and stretched out.
i edited the .ini file and changed filter to 0. first i tried deleting
the sdl lib like i used to do with syncterm but i guess it wont run without it.

Filter doesn't have anything to do with the window size. If you want it to start small you need to adjust win_size to 0. That will start it off in 640x480 window and look identical to SyncTerm. If you have upscaling on
it'll create a 1280x960 window, which is the minimal resolution for that feature.

Another weird thing i see in the options is i have
directories, macros, miscellaneous, file transfer, keyboard
i can only go to the first 3 via hitting tab. no clue how to get into
the other settings.

What settings are you looking to find there? I haven't found anything to put in there really! I could put a toggle in for auto Zmodem I suppose.

i'm not sure if you want to have the stretching be the default option. most of us have quite large displays now and to me it just looks wrong.

Yeah I agree. I forget that most people do not have the version I've been using for the past several months. It has letterboxing on at full screen, which I agree looks better on wide screen. It can be toggled on or off in
the .ini in the next version.

I'll have to stop being lazy and release that version...

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: g00r00 to Mro on Wed Jan 27 2016 02:28 am

also, by default, when i open it again, it is big and stretched out.
i edited the .ini file and changed filter to 0. first i tried deleting the sdl lib like i used to do with syncterm but i guess it wont run without it.

Filter doesn't have anything to do with the window size. If you want it to start small you need to adjust win_size to 0. That will start it off in 640x480 window and look identical to SyncTerm. If you have upscaling on it'll create a 1280x960 window, which is the minimal resolution for that feature.

oh, it's that setting that i changed to zero. i wasnt sure because i was writing this from work.

Another weird thing i see in the options is i have
directories, macros, miscellaneous, file transfer, keyboard
i can only go to the first 3 via hitting tab. no clue how to get into the other settings.

What settings are you looking to find there? I haven't found anything to put in there really! I could put a toggle in for auto Zmodem I suppose.

i didnt know, i thought there was a way to get settings in those areas; i didnt know it was incomplete.
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Re: Telnet Client
By: Nightfox to Mro on Wed Jan 13 2016 06:38 pm

Re: Telnet Client
By: Mro to Christopher Perrault on Wed Jan 13 2016 19:16:30

for windows mtelnet is great.

I've found mTelnet to be a little buggy in how it displays some ANSI content. IMO, NetRunner and SyncTerm are better.

i have called pretty much every bbs and the only time i see ansi
displayed wrong is when the host system has an ansi that is longer than 80cols long. which is pretty stupid.

i've been using mtelnet for 17 years, and i like the guy who made it so much i mirrored his site when he had life problems.

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I see mention that NetRunner is available for OSX (Mac) but I didn't see it
on the website for download. Is it available? I also didn't see source available, did I just miss it? While now I use SyncTerm, I would like to try NetRunner if it's available for the Mac.

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I was wondering what folks are running out there for a telnet client. I'm on Linux here and using PuTTY. Overall it seems to work well, but I do suffer from semi-frequent lockups. I'm not sure if it's something to do wit
PuTTY, a configuration setting on my side or if it's just a fact of life connecting to a BBS via telnet.

I don't get an error message, it just freezes. When I close PuTTY and restart it when I get back to the BBS I'm still listed as online for a few minutes. Then eventually the system tosses me and I can get back on

again.

I either use QModem Pro for Win95/NT v2.1 or I use Syncterm. I use
QModem Pro mainly on the BBS computer for its scripting ability to
transfer ILink QWK and REP packets via telnet.

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I see mention that NetRunner is available for OSX (Mac) but I didn't see it on the website for download. Is it available? I also didn't see source available, did I just miss it? While now I use SyncTerm, I would like to try NetRunner if it's available for the Mac.

Mike, it *used* to be available for Mac, but the most recent versions are NOT. g00roo explained a day or two ago that he no longer has the ability to compile Netrunner for the most recent versions of OS X.

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Timesoarer to Mro on Fri Jan 15 2016 10:16 pm

Anyone remember GregE Term? something like that.. I think it was a CoCo Termianl?

Hi Timesoarer,
I remember GregETerm pretty well. It was the second or third term program I ever used on the Coco. First was the Vidtex program pak which of course was very limited. Then I *think* the next one I got was MickeyTerm (or MikeyTerm) which was recommended to me on a BBS somewhere.
Then shortly thereafter someone mentioned Greg-E-Term which was the one I used for a long time until I moved on to using OS-9 instead of RSDOS. Then I was mainly using Supercomm which was a great little term program. I used to use it on Delphi mostly when it was a text based online service.

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Re: Re: Telnet Client
By: Al to Chris on Sat Jan 16 2016 05:47 am

I just compiled it and it plays out very well. Nice to have SSH for boards that support it.

I didn't even realize Syncterm supported ssh. I've always wondered why more boards aren't configured to connect via ssh or telnet these days. I'm guessing it's just more development time than people (who aren't getting paid) have.

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Al to Chris on Sat Jan 16 2016 05:55 am

Re: Telnet Client
Ansi renders fine on this slackware box. Most times I just use telnet at the console and use SyncTERM or NetRunner if I need zmodem capabilities.

I've had limited luck tweaking things in the past using Mandriva/Mageia, but it still wasn't like what you get with Syncterm. I know there are ways to fix it on Linux (I've seen references here on Dove in the past), but I can never remember what it is.

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Christopher Perrault to Al on Sat Jan 30 2016 11:35 am

Ansi renders fine on this slackware box. Most times I just use telnet
at the console and use SyncTERM or NetRunner if I need zmodem
capabilities.

I've had limited luck tweaking things in the past using Mandriva/Mageia, but it still wasn't like what you get with Syncterm. I know there are ways to fix it on Linux (I've seen references here on Dove in the past), but I can never remember what it is.

All I need to do is enter 'echo -en "\033(U"' at the command prompt. I'm not sure what it is that that command does but it has always worked for me as long as I am not in utf-8 mode, my language env is LANG=en_CA.

I've tried the new debian (I'm a debianite at heart) and archlinux and I haven't been able to get high ascii to display as it always has, I don't know why.

The BBS world probably needs to move toward utf-8, then we'll all see the same thing.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Telnet Client
By: Timesoarer to Mr. Cool on Mon Jan 25 2016 12:57 am

Re: Telnet Client
By: Mr. Cool to Doc Havoc on Tue Jan 19 2016 07:02 pm

You was talking about syncterm.. or having problems compiling it.. My gentoo didn't like to compile it either for some reason. Funny thing is I compiled worked fine.. I copied that over to my gentoo system and it runs fine.

The one time I thought something was going to compile successfully, I ended up stopping because I found an easier way (updated version using apt I believe). Otherwise I was always had errors.

- Mr. Cool

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