Hi, I've been googling for current BBS tools, such as a QWK offline mail reader and a nodelist viewer, but all I can find are old DOS tools from the BBS archives. I was hoping there might be some more modern-ish tools out there. Sure I can read the nodelist directly in Notepad and use the BBS to read/send messages (I'm doing it now ;-), but it would be nice to have these extra tools. (I recall back in 96 using Blue Wave with a tag line manager, I loved it!)

Thanks!

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Re: current bbs tools
By: Xucaen to All on Mon Nov 16 2015 06:05 pm

Hi, I've been googling for current BBS tools, such as a QWK offline mail reader and a nodelist viewer, but all I can find are old DOS tools from the BBS archives. I was hoping there might be some more modern-ish tools out there. Sure I can read the nodelist directly in Notepad and use the BBS to read/send messages (I'm doing it now ;-), but it would be nice to have these extra tools. (I recall back in 96 using Blue Wave with a tag line manager, I loved it!)

The most modern QWK offline mail reader that I know of is MultiMail: http://freecode.com/projects/multimail

I haven't used a FidoNet nodelist in the past 20 years, so I don't know if there's modern software that parses/displays them. :-)

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Re: current bbs tools
By: Xucaen to All on Mon Nov 16 2015 06:05 pm

out there. Sure I can read the nodelist directly in Notepad and use the BBS to read/send messages (I'm doing it now ;-), but it would be nice to have these extra tools. (I recall back in 96 using Blue Wave with a tag line manager, I loved it!)

There is a nodlist viewer out their called "ftnnv.zip", from echicken. It's available on his system at bbs.electronicchicken.bbs. If you want to see it working, I have it up on my system in the email section. It's a really nice tool.

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Hi, I've been googling for current BBS tools, such as a QWK offline mail rea
and a nodelist viewer, but all I can find are old DOS tools from the BBS archives. I was hoping there might be some more modern-ish tools out there. Sure I can read the nodelist directly in Notepad and use the BBS to read/sen
messages (I'm doing it now ;-), but it would be nice to have these extra too
(I recall back in 96 using Blue Wave with a tag line manager, I loved

it!)

Multimail 0.50 is available for downloading from my website at http://me.robertwolfe.org and is available for 32- and 64-bit Windows,
OS/2, and Mac OSX. The download links are on the right hand side of
the page.

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Re: current bbs tools
By: Xucaen to All on Mon Nov 16 2015 18:05:18

Hi, I've been googling for current BBS tools, such as a QWK offline mail reader and a nodelist viewer, but all I can find are old DOS tools from the BBS archives. I was hoping there might be some more modern-ish tools out there. Sure I can read the nodelist directly in Notepad and use the BBS to read/send messages (I'm doing it now ;-), but it would be nice to have these extra tools. (I recall back in 96 using Blue Wave with a tag line manager, I loved it!)

Like you say , old tools but still working Bluewave 2.30 Still work fine
on my windows

multimail work fine too !!

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Re: current bbs tools
By: DesotoFireflite to Xucaen on Tue Nov 17 2015 04:05:39

There is a nodlist viewer out their called "ftnnv.zip", from echicken. It's available on his system at bbs.electronicchicken.bbs. If you want to

Corrected bbs.electronicchicken.bbs = bbs.electronicchicken.com

It better to get it

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Re: current bbs tools
By: DesotoFireflite to Xucaen on Tue Nov 17 2015 04:05:39

There is a nodlist viewer out their called "ftnnv.zip", from echicken. It's available on his system at bbs.electronicchicken.bbs. If you want to see it working, I have it up on my system in the email section. It's a really nice tool.

Hi , to you or someone can help

The last part of the readme.txt
i do not understand , how to config With sbbs

//- In a javascript command shell, use 'bbs.exec_xtrn("MLPRMPT");' in place
of your current 'sent mail / email / netmail' option //





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Re: current bbs tools
By: spacesst to DesotoFireflite on Tue Nov 17 2015 09:29 am

Corrected bbs.electronicchicken.bbs = bbs.electronicchicken.com

Damn, that's what I get for being up so early. Thanks for catching that:)

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Re: current bbs tools
By: spacesst to DesotoFireflite on Tue Nov 17 2015 10:09 am

The last part of the readme.txt
i do not understand , how to config With sbbs

//- In a javascript command shell, use 'bbs.exec_xtrn("MLPRMPT");' in place
of your current 'sent mail / email / netmail' option //

That's if you are using a javascript command shell, in my case, I am still using the default.src/bin baja command shell, in which case I use
EXEC_XTRN "mlprmpt" to use the editor that comes with nodeview. To use the FTN Nodelist viewer, I use EXEC_XTRN "nodeview". Both of which I have set up as externals, that are accessable from my email section. Their are many ways to do this, I chose chose to do it this way till all the bugs are worked out. Hope this helped.

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11-16-15 18:05 Xucaen wrote to All about current bbs tools
Howdy! Xucaen,

@MSGID: <564A612E.139.dove-general@timeport.synchro.net>
Hi, I've been googling for current BBS tools, such as a QWK
offline mail reader and a nodelist viewer, but all I can find
are old DOS tools from the BBS archives. I was hoping there
might be some more modern-ish tools out there. Sure I can read
the nodelist directly in Notepad and use the BBS to read/send
messages (I'm doing it now ;-), but it would be nice to have
these extra tools. (I recall back in 96 using Blue Wave with a
tag line manager, I loved it!)

Thanks!

In the Memories echo Kurt Weiske sent a post to me with a Link to
get Multimail for Windows v0.50 because I couldn't find it on Sourceforge. http://realitycheckbbs.org/mmwin050.zip
HTH
I'm using it on XP.

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Re: Re: current bbs tools
By: Ed Vance to Xucaen on Tue Nov 17 2015 01:54 pm

offline mail reader and a nodelist viewer, but all I can find
are old DOS tools from the BBS archives. I was hoping there
might be some more modern-ish tools out there. Sure I can read
the nodelist directly in Notepad and use the BBS to read/send
messages (I'm doing it now ;-), but it would be nice to have
these extra tools. (I recall back in 96 using Blue Wave with a
tag line manager, I loved it!)

Thanks!

In the Memories echo Kurt Weiske sent a post to me with a Link to
get Multimail for Windows v0.50 because I couldn't find it on Sourceforge. http://realitycheckbbs.org/mmwin050.zip
HTH
I'm using it on XP.

so why is there no version .50 on the official site? is this .50 a rogue version compiled by someone else?
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On 11/17/15, Mro said the following...

so why is there no version .50 on the official site? is this .50 a rogue version compiled by someone else?

It's the version you get when you use cvs. It's not rogue but it hasn't been released yet.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Ed Vance wrote to Xucaen <=-

In the Memories echo Kurt Weiske sent a post to me with a Link to
get Multimail for Windows v0.50 because I couldn't find it on
Sourceforge. http://realitycheckbbs.org/mmwin050.zip
HTH
I'm using it on XP.

Thank you! it works well on Windows 7.. and no nag screen. ;-)

Is there a way to change the quote character? I didn't see it in the .rc or docs, but thought maybe there might be an undocumented option..

Thanks!


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Re: Re: current bbs tools
By: Al to Mro on Wed Nov 18 2015 08:19 am

On 11/17/15, Mro said the following...

so why is there no version .50 on the official site? is this .50 a rogue version compiled by someone else?

It's the version you get when you use cvs. It's not rogue but it hasn't
been released yet.

Ttyl :-),

where's the cvs?
i see there's a version of sourceforge and a version on github.
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11-17-15 20:18 Mro wrote to Ed Vance about Re: current bbs tools
Howdy! Mro,

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Re: Re: current bbs tools
By: Ed Vance to Xucaen on Tue Nov 17 2015 01:54 pm

offline mail reader and a nodelist viewer, but all I can find
are old DOS tools from the BBS archives. I was hoping there
might be some more modern-ish tools out there. Sure I can read
the nodelist directly in Notepad and use the BBS to read/send
messages (I'm doing it now ;-), but it would be nice to have
these extra tools. (I recall back in 96 using Blue Wave with a
tag line manager, I loved it!)

Thanks!

In the Memories echo Kurt Weiske sent a post to me with a Link to
get Multimail for Windows v0.50 because I couldn't find it on Sourceforge. http://realitycheckbbs.org/mmwin050.zip
HTH
I'm using it on XP.

so why is there no version .50 on the official site? is this .50 a
rogue version compiled by someone else?

I don't know why MMWIN50.ZIP wasn't at Sourceforge when I was looking for it.
I trust the copy Kurt told me about.
I checked it after downloading it, as I always do when I save a file to
my HDD.
And I'm sure it was checked by the BBS SysOp before allowing others to
download it.
Kurt may be the BBS's SysOp, I don't know, but I've read messages He's
written in several BBS echos for many many years and I trust Him.

Are You a Canadian?
IIRC I think I've seen either WOT or Flagfox indicate Your website was in Canada, My memory might be mistaken though.

... This tagline is umop apisdn
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so why is there no version .50 on the official site? is this .50 a rogu
version compiled by someone else?

It's the version you get when you use cvs. It's not rogue but it hasn't been
released yet.

If you are talking about MultiMail 0.50, I've been maintaining
(voluntarily) Win32, Win64, OS/2, OSX and SunOS builds. They are not
rogue builds, but rather built from unmodified CVS source code (I don't
know C/C++ anyway so I could not do it even if I wanted to). All
versions I've built are either on my website or on my BBS.

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where's the cvs?
i see there's a version of sourceforge and a version on github.

I believe the official CVS is on SourceForge.

... Think of it as evolution in action.
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I don't know why MMWIN50.ZIP wasn't at Sourceforge when I was looking for it
I trust the copy Kurt told me about.
I checked it after downloading it, as I always do when I save a file to
my HDD.
And I'm sure it was checked by the BBS SysOp before allowing others to download it.
Kurt may be the BBS's SysOp, I don't know, but I've read messages He's written in several BBS echos for many many years and I trust Him.

Try http://me.robertwolfe.org. You will find 0.50 there for Win64,
Win32, OS/2, OSX and SunOS/OpenSolaris.

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Re: Re: current bbs tools
By: Ed Vance to Mro on Wed Nov 18 2015 01:01 pm

Are You a Canadian?
IIRC I think I've seen either WOT or Flagfox indicate Your website was in Canada, My memory might be mistaken though.

nope i'm not canadian.
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On 11/18/15, Mro said the following...

where's the cvs?
i see there's a version of sourceforge and a version on github.

It's been on sourceforge since the beginning but I have seen it recently on github. Sourceforge is where I get it from cvs.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Re: current bbs tools
By: ROBERT WOLFE to MRO on Wed Nov 18 2015 08:53 am

where's the cvs?
i see there's a version of sourceforge and a version on github.

I believe the official CVS is on SourceForge.

how do i access the cvs for multimail on sourceforge?
all i see are old versions on the sourceforge and github page
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how do i access the cvs for multimail on sourceforge?
all i see are old versions on the sourceforge and github page

If you click on "Code" on the SF page that will give you the command
line to grab the source code.

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nope i'm not canadian.

But you're from one of those regions where everyone talks Canadian, right? Don't be embarassed, we suffer the same affliction in upstate NY.

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Re: Re: current bbs tools
By: ROBERT WOLFE to MRO on Thu Nov 19 2015 12:27 pm

how do i access the cvs for multimail on sourceforge?
all i see are old versions on the sourceforge and github page

If you click on "Code" on the SF page that will give you the command
line to grab the source code.

okay, thank you now i see it. i used the cvs but only using the author account.
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Re: Re: current bbs tools
By: Al to Mro on Wed Nov 18 2015 07:48 pm

On 11/18/15, Mro said the following...

where's the cvs?
i see there's a version of sourceforge and a version on github.

It's been on sourceforge since the beginning but I have seen it recently on github. Sourceforge is where I get it from cvs.

still not helping!!! :D
robert told me it was in the code section.
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Re: Re: current bbs tools
By: metalhead to Mro on Thu Nov 19 2015 09:35 am

nope i'm not canadian.

But you're from one of those regions where everyone talks Canadian, right? Don't be embarassed, we suffer the same affliction in upstate NY.

nope.
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-=[ On 11-17-15 20:18, Mro wrote to Ed Vance below: ]=-
-=[Re: Re: current bbs tools ]=-

Hi Mro!

so why is there no version .50 on the official site? is this .50 a
rogue version compiled by someone else?

Possibly. The stable release is 0.49 which Iƒ€™m happy to be using :)

Cheers,

Bryan
Email: bhandfield(at)me(dot)com

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On 11/19/15, Mro said the following...

It's been on sourceforge since the beginning but I have seen it recentl github. Sourceforge is where I get it from cvs.

still not helping!!! :D
robert told me it was in the code section.

That is where it used to be. There seems to be a newfangled download a
tarball there now instead of the cvs command. I don't know if the usual cvs command will still work or not but you can grab the tarball from there.

Look at the code section of another project (like golded-plus) for an example of what the cvs command is, or at least used to be.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Mro wrote to Al <=-

still not helping!!! :D
robert told me it was in the code section.

Or you could just as easily got to http://me.robertwolfe.org and download
the precompiled binaries for your platform.


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Argelian wrote to Mro <=-

so why is there no version .50 on the official site? is this .50 a
rogue version compiled by someone else?

Possibly. The stable release is 0.49 which Iƒ€™m happy to be using :)

The .50 version is a development version, of which I have prebuilt binaries
for on my website (as mentioned in an earlier post).

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11-18-15 11:53 Xucaen wrote to Ed Vance about Re: current bbs tools
Howdy! Xucaen,

@MSGID: <564CAD75.156.dove-general@timeport.synchro.net>
@REPLY: <564B7734.17942.dove-gen@capcity2.synchro.net>

Ed Vance wrote to Xucaen <=-

In the Memories echo Kurt Weiske sent a post to me with a Link to
get Multimail for Windows v0.50 because I couldn't find it on
Sourceforge. http://realitycheckbbs.org/mmwin050.zip
HTH
I'm using it on XP.

Thank you! it works well on Windows 7.. and no nag screen. ;-)

You're Welcome!

Is there a way to change the quote character? I didn't see it in the
.rc or docs, but thought maybe there might be an undocumented option..

I looked at MM readme and the other MM text files and didn't see anywhere it mentioned how to change the quote character.

I looked at RFC 2047 mentioned in MMAIL.RC's "Use QPMailhead" option without seeing anything that would help You. Sorry I can't be of help.

SLMR (DOS) has a Qstring setting that is set to the > character that can be changed by the user.

I've ran SLMR on this XP pc but switched to MM because SLMR chokes up on messages over 150 lines in length.

There are Plus's and Minus's to both programs imnsho.

I used SEMPOINT for a while to read QWK messages but went back to using SLMR/MM.

Thanks!

I am a Lurker here, and just thought I'd jump in and send that Link to You.
I use MMWIN just when I want to C&P something into what I'm writing.
It's easier to do in MMWIN that MMDOS that I use EDIT.COM in.

I will go back in to Lurker Mode soon.

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11-18-15 21:05 Mro wrote to Ed Vance about Re: current bbs tools
Howdy! Mro,

@MSGID: <564D3C8F.5079.dove-gen@bbses.info>
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Re: Re: current bbs tools
By: Ed Vance to Mro on Wed Nov 18 2015 01:01 pm

Are You a Canadian?
IIRC I think I've seen either WOT or Flagfox indicate Your website was in Canada, My memory might be mistaken though.

nope i'm not canadian.

Does Your bbses.info use a server in Canada?

Flagfox still shows the IP Address is in Canada that's why I asked.

No offense meant.

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Re: current bbs tools
By: Xucaen to All on Mon Nov 16 2015 06:05 pm

Hi, I've been googling for current BBS tools, such as a QWK offline mail reader and a nodelist viewer, but all I can find are old DOS tools from the BBS archives.

I remember when Windows BBS tools started coming around, like a Windows Bluewave offline reader -- they just didn't feel right to me. I want as close to that text-mode, green letters on a black background experience I was used to.

I do most of my BBSing in a virtual machine running a cut-down version of Windows XP. I doubt there's anything left to exploit in it. I use Multimail, an offline reader that runs in a text console, but it's 32-bit. An old DOS editor, Qedit works fine in the VM.

If you're looking for a more modern experience, your best bet is to find a BBS with NNTP access to the message areas and use a news reader. I miss the interactive experience when I do that, though.

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Re: current bbs tools
By: Poindexter Fortran to Xucaen on Sat Nov 21 2015 10:01:46

If you're looking for a more modern experience, your best bet is to find a BBS with NNTP access to the message areas and use a news reader. I miss the interactive experience when I do that, though.

I also tend to prefer the text mode when I use a BBS - But I'm curious, how do you feel like NNTP with a news reader is less interactive?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: current bbs tools
By: Warp 4 to Mro on Fri Nov 20 2015 06:01 pm

Mro wrote to Al <=-

still not helping!!! :D
robert told me it was in the code section.

Or you could just as easily got to http://me.robertwolfe.org and download the precompiled binaries for your platform.

i just wanted to see where it was coming from.
i can compile my own binaries.
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Re: current bbs tools
By: Nightfox to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Nov 21 2015 11:38 am

I also tend to prefer the text mode when I use a BBS - But I'm curious, how do you feel like NNTP with a news reader is less interactive?

Bulletins, mods, ANSIs, taglines...

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Re: current bbs tools
By: Xucaen to All on Mon Nov 16 2015 06:05 pm

Hi, I've been googling for current BBS tools, such as a QWK offline mail reader and a nodelist viewer, but all I can find are old DOS tools from the

I want this too! I often have to go through hundreds of messages, and it would be nice to do it in a dedicated
client!

Knight

Knight

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