Has anyone been able to run Telemate in DOSbox to connect to a BBS?
i found an article at breakintochat.com/blog/tag/telemate but DOSbox just locks up when i run Telemate.
oops! had to run tm.exe not telemate.exe
oops! had to run tm.exe not telemate.exe
Has anyone been able to run Telemate in DOSbox to connect to a BBS?
i found an article at breakintochat.com/blog/tag/telemate but DOSbox just locks up when i run Telemate.
oops! had to run tm.exe not telemate.exe
hah! this is fun, i'm using Telemate 4.21 now!
Re: Telemate in DOSbox
By: Gun Runner to All on Mon Oct 05 2015 10:21 pm
oops! had to run tm.exe not telemate.exe
That brought back memories... in 993-ish, I had the BBS running on a 286
and had a 386SX on my desk. I could run Telemate, and while downloading a message packet could use the text editor. Ah, 2400 baud.
2400 baud? you were lucky! i had 1200
oops! had to run tm.exe not telemate.exe
2400 baud? you were lucky! i had 1200
So you went from 1200 baud to ISP? What happened in between?
Has anyone been able to run Telemate in DOSbox to connect to a BBS?
i found an article at breakintochat.com/blog/tag/telemate but DOSbox just lo up when i run Telemate.
oops! had to run tm.exe not telemate.exe
However, I have found that I cannot download files..
Re: Telemate in DOSbox
By: Jeff Friend to Gun Runner on Fri Oct 09 2015 10:23 pm
However, I have found that I cannot download files..
What protocols are you using to download? Might try YModem-G (no error correction) if it's available, I sometimes find YG works where Z fails.
That brought back memories... in 993-ish, I had the BBS running on a 286
and had a 386SX on my desk. I could run Telemate, and while downloading a
message packet could use the text editor. Ah, 2400 baud.
2400 baud? you were lucky! i had 1200
a >> message packet could use the text editor. Ah, 2400 baud.That brought back memories... in 993-ish, I had the BBS running on a 286 >> and had a 386SX on my desk. I could run Telemate, and while downloading
2400 baud? you were lucky! i had 1200
Started on an IBM PC XT with a CGA adapter/monitor (used) around 1991 with
a 1200bps modem... man, ANSI was s-l-o-w ... I do emphatically *not* mist the old hardware. I do miss local BBSes and GTs though.
That brought back memories... in 993-ish, I had the BBS running on a 286 and had a 386SX on my desk. I could run Telemate, and while downloading a message packet could use the text editor. Ah, 2400 baud.
Telemate was my favorite terminal program back in the day (along with Telix, perhaps). I've thought about setting up Telemate in an emulator to use with telnet BBSes.
2400 baud? you were lucky! i had 1200
So you went from 1200 baud to ISP? What happened in between?
Started on an IBM PC XT with a CGA adapter/monitor (used) around 1991 with a 1200bps modem... man, ANSI was s-l-o-w ... I do emphatically *not* mist the old hardware. I do miss local BBSes and GTs though.
Knight wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-
I really miss message packets. I really wish we could bring back
offline QWK readers, specifically for OS X :)
Knight wrote to tracker1 <=-
I was similar! I had an XT, originally with a 10MB MFM hard drive,
which I later upgraded to 20MB. HA! Can you believe it, 10MB! And
floppies were in the KB...
And 4 color CGA... Holy crap, I almost forgot about that. Playing early games on that was incredible. What games did we play? Duke Nukem? What about that one where you are crashed on some planet and you have a
space suit...
I definitely installed Minix on that piece of crap. And later the 0.1 Linux kernel (which of course, great to a full distro later).
I miss the old BBSes so much.
OK, we aren't clones, I never really got into games. ;)
BBS were cool in their day, but modern software is giving some of the feel back. :)
Re: Re: Telemate in DOSbox
By: Gun Runner to Mro on Tue Oct 06 2015 09:27 pm
2400 baud? you were lucky! i had 1200
So you went from 1200 baud to ISP? What happened in between?
Ha! Oh man, getting a 2400 baud modem was my big moment. I saved the
$300 as a m aybe 12 year old, rode my bike 15
miles to Fry's Electonics in Palo Alto, and bought it. I was so excited, because my 1200 baud was so slow, and I
would be able to download files at a more reasonable speed.
I really miss message packets. I really wish we could bring back offline QWK readers, specifically for OS X :)
Telemate was my favorite terminal program back in the day (along with
Telix, perhaps). I've thought about setting up Telemate in an
emulator to use with telnet BBSes.
We need to do this. Would be great to document the process so others can do it too who might be less technical.
But, it was so worth it. Ahhh, BAYES compatible... I'm trying to remember what brand it was. I can picture the box.
Telemate was my favorite terminal program back in the day (along with
Telix, perhaps). I've thought about setting up Telemate in an
emulator to use with telnet BBSes.
We need to do this. Would be great to document the process so others can do it too who might be less technical.
KNIGHT wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
I really miss message packets. I really wish we could bring back
offline QWK readers, specifically for OS X :)
KNIGHT wrote to GUN RUNNER <=-
Ha! Oh man, getting a 2400 baud modem was my big moment. I saved the
KNIGHT wrote to VK3JED <=-
Sure, the BBS software and a few users. But I sure do miss the
communities of people, and the air of excitement that came with it. The world was your oyster, but in a limited kind of way (oxymoron,
perhaps). The Internet sort of exploded and 100 worlds are your oyster
and there's no nozzle to limit the flow from the hoze.
Ah yes. Fry's in Palo Alto. The one with the Olde West theme. My closest Frys (at that time) was in Campbell, with the Egyptian Pyramid theme. Then there was the Santa Clara/Sunnyvale one with the Semiconductor theme. The closest Frys here in Houston has a Oil Well theme, like in No Country for Old Men. Then there's another close-by Frys that is near Johnson Space Center in Webster, which oddly enough has a NASA theme.
Emulate an old OS and you're set.
There's a torrent out there called TERMBOX that's DOSBOX set to use it's modem emulation to connect to port 23, and a handful of old DOS terminal programs. install it, run it, and you've got an original DOS term environment that works over telnet.
ITYM Hayes.
AT&FL1M1&C1&D2 - I think I still remember my BBS's init string!
I'm using MM on Win7 running under Parallels on OS X. A local BBS
has a Terminal version that will run under OS X, but I didn't care
for the 'plain' interface.
A few nights ago I installed DOS 6.22 in Parallels and opened oLX,
but I found that I actually like MM better. :-) (OLX is what I used
way back when... in the 90's)
Downloads were fine - I had a different autoexec.bat & config.sys
when it was time to upload. I just slowed it to 9600 and all was
good.
Agreed! Playing a game online is one thing - playing an online game with someone you've commicated with via the message board is another - and
then MEETING that person face to face just sweetened it even MORE!
Ah yes. Fry's in Palo Alto. The one with the Olde West theme. My closest Frys (at that time) was in Campbell, with the Egyptian Pyramid theme. Then there was the Santa Clara/Sunnyvale one with the Semiconductor theme. The closest Frys here in Houston has a Oil Well theme, like in No Country for Old Men. Then there's another close-by Frys that is near Johnson Space Center in Webster, which oddly enough has a NASA theme.
There's a Fry's not too far from me, but it doesn't have a theme.
Knight wrote to Vk3jed <=-
OK, we aren't clones, I never really got into games. ;)
Oh that's a shame. They were great.
BBS were cool in their day, but modern software is giving some of the feel back. :)
Sure, the BBS software and a few users. But I sure do miss the
communities of people, and the air of excitement that came with it. The
world was your oyster, but in a limited kind of way (oxymoron,
perhaps). The Internet sort of exploded and 100 worlds are your oyster
and there's no nozzle to limit the flow from the hoze.
Knight wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-
I want a QWK/Bluewave messaging app for iOS/OSX, not a thick process of emulators, DOS, and juggling files around.
Knight wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
Exactly! I can't stand most of the people I've met on Xbox Live. It's mostly young kids who swear and do annoying things, or adults that are trolling. But the people I'd meet on BBSes and then play doors
together... that was amazing.
Telemate was my favorite terminal program back in the day (along with Telix, perhaps). I've thought about setting up Telemate in an emulator to use with telnet BBSes.
We need to do this. Would be great to document the process so others can do it too who might be less technical.
Good old Fry's and their themes. Yeah, I think there's a draw because the experience is different than Best Buy, etc. Though the real reason was part availability (you could find stuff you can't at places like Best Buy) and low prices. That seems to be changing a bit though.
The story is a bit more long and complicated, but the short version is most gaming platforms are incompatible with me, especially in regards to how motion is handled. I have a requirement to feel the motion to process it properly - something clearly impossible with a traditional PC/console game. :)
Yes, me too, but I am sensing a glimpse of it in the remnants of the BBS world that are here. At least the tools used haven't been forgotten and they've managed to adapt to some extent, it's the rebuilding of communities that will be the harder challenge. Strangely enough, there seems to be a mini revival of CB radio down here in the last year or so, so maybe there is momentum for retro revivals at this time. :)
Me too, at least for iOS. I think a terminal emulator/offline app would be good, all in one place. :)
There's a chain called "Central Computers" in the bay area that I prefer to Frys. More parts, less electronics, lower prices and knowledgeable salespeople.
Knight wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Interesting. Well a lot of the old games were so unrealistic that there was little correlation with the real world, so perhaps that wouldn't be
a problem for you. Especially some of the more esoteric games that were more about strategy than movement.
I think there will be a renaissance of the need for community, of
sorts. I've been craving it for a long time, but I sense that average people will start to want this again. Community has been disappearing,
at least in this neck of the woods, for the last 15 years or so.
Neighbors don't talk to each other, towns don't connect. I'm in a large metropolis, so that might have a lot to do with it (near San
Francisco). Also, it's so damn expensive here that "normal" people have moved away.
I hope so.
I had some thoughts on how to grow the BBS community. After reading thousands of net messages, I came to terms that most of the users are sysops. And then I read a glowing post by a regular user (who quickly announced that he wasn't a sysop) who was excited to be a part of
things. It reminded me that if we toned down all the "sysop presence"
and made it more about the regular users, that people would begin to
feel more comfortable. I'm suggesting that maybe since 90%+ of the
people here are sysops that it might be slightly intimidating to the
folks who are 1) not technical and 2) not involved in the operation of BBSes themselves. Though I've taken no formal survey or anything...
Knight wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I use Prompt 2 on my iOS devices to do telnet/ssh. But as far as I can tell, most terminal emulators on iOS aren't really strong with ANSI,
and certainly none of them do RIP (I wonder how many people actually
have that setup today on their BBSes).
What you are suggesting would be cool. I wouldn't even know where to
begin when it came to the terminal portion of it.
KNIGHT wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
I want a QWK/Bluewave messaging app for iOS/OSX, not a thick process of emulators, DOS, and juggling files around.
KNIGHT wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
Yeah see, I've been using virtual machines and emulators for years. But
I really don't like to do things inside of them for hours. There is
always keyboard mapping issues, and mouse/keyboard quirks, and extra battery draw when not plugged in, and host OS slowdowns.
I would much rather have a native app for something like that.
KNIGHT wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
Downloads were fine - I had a different autoexec.bat & config.sys
when it was time to upload. I just slowed it to 9600 and all was
good.
Haha, that would have driven me nuts... having a 14.4 that I had to
force down to 9600.
That's like owning a Ferrari but having a limiter installed in valet
mode permanently restricting it from going above 45 MPH.
I'd rather have a native app for several reasons, but I don't experience what you're talking about... I'm running OS 10.11 on a MacBook Air 13"
with an SSD drive and 8 gig of Ram. When Parallels is active with Win7
I'm getting NO slow down at all, and dragging files between the OS's
is no problem either.
I would just rather it be native becasue I prefer the Apple interface.
KNIGHT wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I'm running 10.11 on a retina MacBook Pro (Early 2013) with an SSD
drive (I just upgraded the stock Apple one with one from OWC yesterday actually) and 16GB of RAM. Realistically I have other things running (MySQL/PostgreSQL, Xcode, Sublime Text, Safari with 10 windows and 5-10 tabs each), etc. So it's not unusual for Parallels to zap extra cycles from the host OS.
I just found that using Windows and sometimes Linux in a VM on a Mac is just cumbersome in general. I always have to customize 10-20
keymappings, because typing SHIFT-CTRL-C to copy a highlighted text in
KDE on Linux is different than COMMAND-C on OSX. Hard to remember them all, so I have to tell Parallels about each one.
Things are just far from flawless. I use to use VMs a *lot* more in the past. But I guess I just got tired of it, and my needs are low enough
that it's not worth the hassle.
WOW - and I thought I was a power browser! LOL
Well, right now unless something comes up at work that I MUST have
Windows for it's just for MM. :-)
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to KNIGHT <=-
LOL - yeah, but remember I was doing this on an 8088 dual floppy
system. I was already doing more than others said should be possible.
;-)
Haha, that would have driven me nuts... having a 14.4 that I had to force down to 9600.
Yeah I use to go to Central Computers a lot. I went to the one in Santa Clara usually. I built workstations for several little startups I was part of back in the dotcom days. Was always fun to walk in knowing just what I wanted, flop an investor's credit card down, and buy $30k of parts.
KNIGHT wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
Yeah, and I rarely bookmark stuff (I find Safari's bookmarking to kind
of suck), so sometimes I forget to do "Reopen all tabs from last
session" and boom, I lose all the sites I forgot to go back to :)
Pretty stupid of me.
Well, right now unless something comes up at work that I MUST have
Windows for it's just for MM. :-)
Oh man, the dreaded MM. One advantage of working for yourself -- you
don't have to use that pile of crap :)
VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
LOL - yeah, but remember I was doing this on an 8088 dual floppy
system. I was already doing more than others said should be possible.
;-)
Ahh, the days when 16550 UARTs were like gold. :D I remember running
off an XT, how things have changed. :)
Heh. I did the same thing in San Francisco.
Oh man, the dreaded MM. One advantage of working for yourself -- you don't have to use that pile of crap :)
I meant MultiMail - is that what you were referring to?
That one is near Buca di Beppo, right? And/or the big mall down there. And the Mel's?
KNIGHT wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
I want a QWK/Bluewave messaging app for iOS/OSX, not a thick process of emulators, DOS, and juggling files around.
If you find it, please share. :-)
KNIGHT wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
Oh man, the dreaded MM. One advantage of working for yourself -- you don't have to use that pile of crap :)
I meant MultiMail - is that what you were referring to?
OH! Ha. I thought you were referring to Meeting Maker, a pile of crap enterprise calendar system that many people are forced to use for their job and so they have to often keep a VM around for it.
That's the one.
Actually never heard of that. :-) I work IT for a school system and
it's like pulling teeth to get some people into the 21st Century! :-)
Just using Google Docs blew some of their minds. :-)
Re: Telemate in DOSbox
By: Knight to Nightfox on Mon Mar 14 2016 11:59 pm
Telemate was my favorite terminal program back in the day (along with Telix, perhaps). I've thought about setting up Telemate in an emulato to use with telnet BBSes.
We need to do this. Would be great to document the process so others can it too who might be less technical.
its easy to do and there's a guy who made 'termbox' which is all the popular dialup clients paired with dosboxI am using Telemate 4.21, paid for in 1992 on a DOSBox on Windows 7.
Has anyone been able to run Telemate in DOSbox to connect to a BBS?
i found an article at breakintochat.com/blog/tag/telemate but DOSbox just locks up when i run Telemate.
oops! had to run tm.exe not telemate.exe
hah! this is fun, i'm using Telemate 4.21 now!
Telemate was my favorite terminal program back in the day (along with Telix, perhaps). I've thought about setting up Telemate in an emulator to use with telnet BBSes.
Nightfox
ROBERT WOLFE wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
Well, if it's one for OSX you want, you can always download the OSX
port of MultiMail from my BBS here :)
Telemate was my favorite terminal program back in the day (along with
Telix, perhaps). I've thought about setting up Telemate in an
emulator to use with telnet BBSes.
It is so worth it, just to go back in time...
I just found that using Windows and sometimes Linux in a VM on a Mac
is just cumbersome in general. I always have to customize 10-20
keymappings, because typing SHIFT-CTRL-C to copy a highlighted text
in KDE on Linux is different than COMMAND-C on OSX. Hard to remember
them all, so I have to tell Parallels about each one.
Well, right now unless something comes up at work that I MUST have
Windows for it's just for MM. :-)
That's funny, I feel the opposite, my work mbp is connected to a USB Model-M style keyboard, and I've had to tweak my mappings... hardest part is I can't install anything that makes cmd/ctrl switch back around inside iTerm (too locked down) ...
I really miss message packets. I really wish we could bring back offline QWK readers, specifically for OS X :)
Knight
We need to do this. Would be great to document the process so others can do it too who might be less technical.
Knight
Agreed! Playing a game online is one thing - playing an online game with someone you've commicated with via the message board is another - and
then MEETING that person face to face just sweetened it even MORE!
I also agree. That's why I set up a Chocolate Doom server and a Mumble server on my BBS and announced it. I had hoped some people would be interested in playing some live, interactive games. But so far, no one has made use of those things.
Doctor Who wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
Re: Re: Telemate in DOSbox
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to KNIGHT on Tue Mar 15 2016 10:07 am
Agreed! Playing a game online is one thing - playing an online game with someone you've commicated with via the message board is another - and
then MEETING that person face to face just sweetened it even MORE!
I also agree. That's why I set up a Chocolate Doom server and a Mumble server on my BBS and announced it. I had hoped some people would be interested in playing some live, interactive games. But so far, no one
has made use of those things.
I'd be interested in DOOM, been playing the nostalgia game trip for the past few weeks. Don't tell my wife, she bought me an Xbox One for christmas, and I'm playing 1990s games!
I really miss message packets. I really wish we could bring backThere is one, mmail. :) Using it right now, however as for the text editor, I'm using BBEdit. In order to use it this way, I had to install the CLI tools that can be done through the application itself :)
offline QWK readers, specifically for OS X :)
DOCTOR WHO wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I also agree. That's why I set up a Chocolate Doom server and a Mumble server on my BBS and announced it. I had hoped some people would be interested in playing some live, interactive games. But so far, no one
has made use of those things.
VK3JED wrote to DOCTOR WHO <=-
I found the same thing with posters from some echos. :) I wasn't much
of a gamer, only BBS game I ever played was BRE, and even then not seriously.
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
Years ago I tried BRE and liked it okay, until a reset was done.
There was a user who stepped in and "TOLD" us who could attack
whom. Really? Not my style to have someone tell me what I can
and can't do.
I'm the same way with Ingress. I have people try to tell me
I'm playing it "wrong." I admit that when people get pissed
at the way I play and do things I get a secret thrill out
of it. <g>
VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I looked at Ingress. Interesting idea, but like a lot of games,
doesn't quite grab me. At least Ingress does get you outside,
one
factor that could one day lead me to taking it up, though I personally prefer a more traditional form of sport for my outdoor recreation. I think because until you get your social connections established, you're
on your own, which for me becomes a bit of a Catch-22.
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I looked at Ingress. Interesting idea, but like a lot of games,
doesn't quite grab me. At least Ingress does get you outside,
True! Most of what I do is 'drive by' while I'm moving from school
to school for the day job, or if I'm headed to a gig or something
and have some time to kill...
one
factor that could one day lead me to taking it up, though I personally prefer a more traditional form of sport for my outdoor recreation. I think because until you get your social connections established, you're
on your own, which for me becomes a bit of a Catch-22.
Doesn't bother me. Some of the people I've "ticked off" have told me
I'm not playing it as a team game and I should change the way I do it.
I just ignore them. LOL
When my wife was active in it that was all the 'team' I needed. :-D
I want a QWK/Bluewave messaging app for iOS/OSX, not a thick process of emulators, DOS, and juggling files around.MultiMail has various ports out there, one of which is MacOS. No emulator needed for it, I'm using it right now :)
I want a QWK/Bluewave messaging app for iOS/OSX, not a thick process of
emulators, DOS, and juggling files around.
MultiMail has various ports out there, one of which is MacOS. No
emulator needed for it, I'm using it right now :)
(in technical terms, it's a part of "executive dysfunction"). For me, teamwork is an important survival strategy in life itself.
Knight wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Re: Re: Telemate in DOSbox
By: Vk3jed to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed Apr 06 2016 08:48 am
(in technical terms, it's a part of "executive dysfunction"). For me, teamwork is an important survival strategy in life itself.
It's funny you say this because it's one of my strongest values. I have really been about team building for most of my life. Partnerships,
joint projects, corporate teams, collaborations, etc.
But, that said, I find it to be one of the most difficult things to do
as well. I find that most people are not very motivated (generally speaking) and getting them to participate beyond the early stages is incredibly difficult. Often I find that I'm the one that needs to find ways to motivate others, and it often ends up backfiring on me anyway.
Suffice to say, I'm still learning the secrets to building good teams.
Hi Knight!
I want a QWK/Bluewave messaging app for iOS/OSX, not a thick process of emulators, DOS, and juggling files around.MultiMail has various ports out there, one of which is MacOS. No emulator needed for it, I'm using it right now :)
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