Moon Landings Faked? Filmmaker Says Not!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs

This guy is pretty smart, I think he is right on the money.
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(P.S., I am posting this because I have a nut cake for a friend who actually believes the moon landings were a hoax. Since anyone with half a brain who takes 5 seconds to do research can prove irrefutably that the moon landings are and were real, I had to share this out of shear frustration brought about by stupidity.)
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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to All on Wed Jun 03 2015 20:19:57

(P.S., I am posting this because I have a nut cake for a friend who actually believes the moon landings were a hoax. Since anyone with half a brain who takes 5 seconds to do research can prove irrefutably that the moon landings are and were real, I had to share this out of shear frustration brought about by stupidity.)

They say not to believe everything you see on TV, etc., but I don't quite see why some people seem to want to believe that the moon landing was a hoax. They're some of the same people who also believe the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center were orchestrated by the US government, and more recently, that the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines MH370 is actually known to some & they're hiding it from the public, etc.. People seem to want to look for conspiracies in everything.

As for the moon landing, if it were a hoax, I imagine it would have been proven or revealed as such now, 46 years years later..

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to Hylian on Wed Jun 03 2015 09:26 pm

Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to All on Wed Jun 03 2015 20:19:57

(P.S., I am posting this because I have a nut cake for a friend who actually believes the moon landings were a hoax. Since anyone with half brain who takes 5 seconds to do research can prove irrefutably that the moon landings are and were real, I had to share this out of shear frustration brought about by stupidity.)

They say not to believe everything you see on TV, etc., but I don't quite se why some people seem to want to believe that the moon landing was a hoax. They're some of the same people who also believe the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center were orchestrated by the US government, and more recently, that the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines MH370 is actually know to some & they're hiding it from the public, etc.. People seem to want to l for conspiracies in everything.

As for the moon landing, if it were a hoax, I imagine it would have been pro or revealed as such now, 46 years years later..

Nightfox

Sorry I came off so heavy handed in that post. But it sounds like you understand why.

I love my buddy Cliff, but he is a strong believer in big foot, and dis belives that we made it to the moon...

Enough said about that. (Rolling my eyes at Cliff)

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to Hylian on Wed Jun 03 2015 09:26 pm

Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to All on Wed Jun 03 2015 20:19:57

(P.S., I am posting this because I have a nut cake for a friend who actually believes the moon landings were a hoax. Since anyone with half brain who takes 5 seconds to do research can prove irrefutably that the moon landings are and were real, I had to share this out
of shear frustration brought about by stupidity.)

They say not to believe everything you see on TV, etc., but I don't
quite se why some people seem to want to believe that the moon landing was a hoax. They're some of the same people who also believe the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center were orchestrated by the US government, and more recently, that the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines MH370 is actually know to some & they're hiding it from the public, etc.. People seem to want to l for conspiracies in everything. As for the moon landing, if it were a hoax, I imagine it would have been pro or revealed as such now, 46 years years later..

Nightfox

Sorry I came off so heavy handed in that post. But it sounds like you understand why.

I love my buddy Cliff, but he is a strong believer in big foot, and dis belives that we made it to the moon...

Enough said about that. (Rolling my eyes at Cliff)

-Denny

The problem is that the moon landings occurred so long ago that many people around today weren't around back then. We've regressed so far in the space program that people don't believe that with 4 and 8-bit computing power we
were able to go to the moon and back when we can't to it with today's technology. Think about it, here we are in the year 2015 and we literally do not have the technology to duplicate a feat that was accomplished 46 years ago this month!
It's a sad commentary on the state of aerospace science today, and the situation was made all the worse by Obama's cutting the figurative balls off NASA and ending our domestic manned space program.

I was around for the Apollo program (and the Gemini and Friendship programs), and I remember the excitement and the technological watershed that the space program provided. If your friend doesn't believe we went to the moon, then
ask him to explain Tang!

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to All on Wed Jun 03 2015 20:19:57

Moon Landings Faked? Filmmaker Says Not!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs

This guy is pretty smart, I think he is right on the money.
-Denny

(P.S., I am posting this because I have a nut cake for a friend who actually believes the moon landings were a hoax. Since anyone with half a brain who takes 5 seconds to do research can prove irrefutably that the moon landings and were real, I had to share this out of shear frustration brought about by stupidity.)

I've actually got a friend that I'm gonna have to share it with as well, for the same reasons. ;) Thank you for the link!

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: KU2S to Hylian on Thu Jun 04 2015 13:32:09

The problem is that the moon landings occurred so long ago that many people around today weren't around back then. We've regressed so far in the space program that people don't believe that with 4 and 8-bit computing power we were able to go to the moon and back when we can't to it with today's technology. Think about it, here we are in the year 2015 and we literally do not have the technology to duplicate a feat that was accomplished 46 years ago this month!

One thing that people probably often forget to consider is that the US was in a space race with Russia, and the US was probably doing everything we could to get to the moon. Sometimes you'd be surprised what you can do when you're motivated like that. There are many projects that have been able to succeed that way, perhaps just barely, but still successful.

I agree that a lot of young people don't seem to believe what people used to be able to accomplish. We should remember that the Egyptians built the pyramids thousands of years ago.

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to All on Wed Jun 03 2015 08:19 pm

Moon Landings Faked? Filmmaker Says Not!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs

This guy is pretty smart, I think he is right on the money.
-Denny

(P.S., I am posting this because I have a nut cake for a friend who
actually believes the moon landings were a hoax. Since anyone with half a brain who takes 5 seconds to do research can prove irrefutably that the
moon landings are and were real, I had to share this out of shear

i think it's entirely possible the landings were faked. we couldnt pull that same shit off in today's age. how could they accomplish something like that back then.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to KU2S on Thu Jun 04 2015 10:12 pm

One thing that people probably often forget to consider is that the US was in a space race with Russia, and the US was probably doing everything we could to get to the moon. Sometimes you'd be surprised what you can do
when you're motivated like that. There are many projects that have been

we were doing everything to get to the moon. even to the point that we would have faked it to make it.

there's a lot of 'evidence' for both sides of the argument. i'm not a conspiracy theory kind of guy but i find it hard to believe that we had a round trip to the moon with people and brought them back alive in that day and age.

we cant pull shit off now, and havent been able to do shit in space since then.

to be able to accomplish. We should remember that the Egyptians built the pyramids thousands of years ago.

never underestimate the power of slavery
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Jun 06 2015 03:15:10

there's a lot of 'evidence' for both sides of the argument. i'm not a conspiracy theory kind of guy but i find it hard to believe that we had a round trip to the moon with people and brought them back alive in that day and age.

we cant pull shit off now, and havent been able to do shit in space since then.

I don't think we've had much need to work in space, which I think is why we haven't attempted something like a moon landing since then. Back then, the US was in a space race with Russia and wanted to prove that we could do it, which I think was probably enough of a motivational factor to pull it off. But beyond proving that we can do it, we just haven't had much need to be out in space yet. We may have just barely pulled off the moon landing; technology is slowly catching up to make such a thing safer and more easily done.

to be able to accomplish. We should remember that the Egyptians built
the pyramids thousands of years ago.

never underestimate the power of slavery

The question remains as to exactly how the pyramids were built.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to KU2S on Thu Jun 04 2015 10:12 pm

One thing that people probably often forget to consider is that the US in a space race with Russia, and the US was probably doing everything w could to get to the moon. Sometimes you'd be surprised what you can do when you're motivated like that. There are many projects that have bee

we were doing everything to get to the moon. even to the point that we would have faked it to make it.

there's a lot of 'evidence' for both sides of the argument. i'm not a conspiracy theory kind of guy but i find it hard to believe that we had
a round trip to the moon with people and brought them back alive in that day and age.

we cant pull shit off now, and havent been able to do shit in space
since then.

Ask yourself, what changed between then and now? What changed politically? What changed ecconimically? What changed ideologically? Did our focus as a nation change? We've had several wars since then. Our country seems to be mired in topics that are the complete opposite of education and exploration.

to be able to accomplish. We should remember that the Egyptians built pyramids thousands of years ago.

never underestimate the power of slavery

Except that there's evidence that it wasn't slave labour at all.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Jun 06 2015 07:57 am

I don't think we've had much need to work in space, which I think is why we haven't attempted something like a moon landing since then. Back then, the US was in a space race with Russia and wanted to prove that we could do it, which I think was probably enough of a motivational factor to pull it off. But beyond proving that we can do it, we just haven't had much need to be out in space yet. We may have just barely pulled off the moon landing;

there's a lot of resources in space; on the moon and other planets.
there's also a military tactical advantage and a communications advantage to having a moon base.

i just dont believe we had six manned moon landings.

to be able to accomplish. We should remember that the Egyptians built
the pyramids thousands of years ago.

never underestimate the power of slavery

The question remains as to exactly how the pyramids were built.

scientists have dumplicated it on a smaller scale. they know where they got their wood from and what methods they used to raise the stones.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Gryphon to Mro on Sat Jun 06 2015 12:06 pm

to be able to accomplish. We should remember that the Egyptians built pyramids thousands of years ago.

never underestimate the power of slavery

Except that there's evidence that it wasn't slave labour at all.

there's theories. i just saw they are saying the pyramids were built by
paid laborers. they base this belief on the fact that they were buried with bread and beer.
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i think it's entirely possible the landings were faked. we couldnt pull that M>same shit off in today's age. how could they accomplish something like that M>back then.

Hmm, you mean that there is actually someone who BELIEVES what our
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i think it's entirely possible the landings were faked. we couldnt pull that same shit off in today's age. how could they accomplish something like that back then.

Yeah, it's all a hoax.. I mean flying machines... yeah right.. rockets, no way... like firework rockets back in thomas jefferson's day was a total hoax... it never really happened...
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Gryphon on Sat Jun 06 2015 03:00 pm

The easiest answer is the simplest, and if you look it up you will agree. Theres no way we could of gone to the moon or even left our own planet due to the radiation that circles the earth. There was no way we had the proper shielding from it at that time. Just look up the Van Allen radiation belt on google.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Tracker1 to Mro on Sat Jun 06 2015 10:13 pm

i think it's entirely possible the landings were faked. we couldnt pull that same shit off in today's age. how could they accomplish something like that back then.

Yeah, it's all a hoax.. I mean flying machines... yeah right.. rockets, no way...

i dont believe in that day and age we could take people to and from the moon considering the technology and knowledge we had at that time.

i dont even think we could do it right now and be successful.
if we tried to do it now we'd have a bunch of dead astronaughts again.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Dribble to Mro on Sun Jun 07 2015 10:05 am

The easiest answer is the simplest, and if you look it up you will agree. Theres no way we could of gone to the moon or even left our own planet due to the radiation that circles the earth. There was no way we had the
proper shielding from it at that time. Just look up the Van Allen radiation belt on google.

i'd heard that theory and i also heard that when astronaughts were in orbit they would see spots due to the radiation.

i do think they did make it through the belts safetly, though.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Tracker1 on Sun Jun 07 2015 15:43:47

i dont believe in that day and age we could take people to and from the moon considering the technology and knowledge we had at that time.
i dont even think we could do it right now and be successful.
if we tried to do it now we'd have a bunch of dead astronaughts again.

So do you believe that the Mars Rovers or the Voyager and Pathfinder projects were also hoaxes?
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Dribble on Sun Jun 07 2015 15:49:43

i'd heard that theory and i also heard that when astronaughts were in orbit they would see spots due to the radiation.

*astronauts

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Underminer to Mro on Sun Jun 07 2015 03:54 pm

i dont believe in that day and age we could take people to and from
the moon considering the technology and knowledge we had at that time.

So do you believe that the Mars Rovers or the Voyager and Pathfinder projects were also hoaxes?

is the mars rover and everything you stated manned missions?
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Jun 07 2015 04:43 pm

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Dribble on Sun Jun 07 2015 15:49:43

i'd heard that theory and i also heard that when astronaughts were in orbit they would see spots due to the radiation.

*astronauts

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Dribble to Mro on Sun Jun 07 2015 10:05 am

The easiest answer is the simplest, and if you look it up you will agree. Theres no way we could of gone to the moon or even left our own planet due to the radiation that circles the earth. There was no way we had the
proper shielding from it at that time. Just look up the Van Allen radiation belt on google.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlXG0REiVzE

this is pretty interesting. they still dont have a way to properly shield the spacecraft after all these years.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Underminer on Sun Jun 07 2015 19:16:12

is the mars rover and everything you stated manned missions?

It shows consistency. If you believe that those missions were legit, you agree that we do indeed have the technical ability to put craft in space and on other bodies in the solar system. The moon is less of a challenge.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Underminer to Mro on Sun Jun 07 2015 11:52 pm

It shows consistency. If you believe that those missions were legit, you agree that we do indeed have the technical ability to put craft in space and on other bodies in the solar system. The moon is less of a challenge.

we can put inanimate objects in space, but unless you want to be one of fallouts ghouls ;) I don't suggest sending a living being up there.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Tracker1 to Mro on Sat Jun 06 2015 10:13 pm

i think it's entirely possible the landings were faked. we couldnt pull t same shit off in today's age. how could they accomplish something like t back then.

Yeah, it's all a hoax.. I mean flying machines... yeah right.. rockets, no way... like firework rockets back in thomas jefferson's day was a total hoax it never really happened...
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Dribble to Mro on Sun Jun 07 2015 10:05 am

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Gryphon on Sat Jun 06 2015 03:00 pm

The easiest answer is the simplest, and if you look it up you will agree. Theres no way we could of gone to the moon or even left our own planet due t the radiation that circles the earth. There was no way we had the proper shielding from it at that time. Just look up the Van Allen radiation belt on google.

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That's actually been proven false. If you stayed in the belt yes. But for as long as the astronauts were in the belt for, very liveable.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Underminer to Mro on Sun Jun 07 2015 11:52 pm

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Underminer on Sun Jun 07 2015 19:16:12

is the mars rover and everything you stated manned missions?

It shows consistency. If you believe that those missions were legit, you agr that we do indeed have the technical ability to put craft in space and on ot bodies in the solar system. The moon is less of a challenge.

And that makes you 100% correct.

How about that fact that this would not be a US cover up?

France, italy, russia, china and soon japan all have or will soon have the ability to see the evidence that proves (or would disprove) the moon walks.

So you believe the entire inhabited world (referring to space agencies, governments and other entities that have these powers) are all in on it?

How about the fact that the seasoned film maker my original article listed proves nearly perfectly that it would have been impossible to pull off the hoax?

That's right, we did have the tech to go to the moon in 1969. We did not have the tech to fake it. Watch the article again, right down the points. You will see what I mean when you do your own research.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Dribble to Underminer on Mon Jun 08 2015 01:06 am

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Underminer to Mro on Sun Jun 07 2015 11:52 pm

It shows consistency. If you believe that those missions were legit, yo agree that we do indeed have the technical ability to put craft in spac and on other bodies in the solar system. The moon is less of a challeng

we can put inanimate objects in space, but unless you want to be one of fallouts ghouls ;) I don't suggest sending a living being up there.

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but it's absolutely provable right now that there not only is a iss, which is in outer space, but it's also proveable people are up there...??

What about that? You can see the ISS with binoculars with your own eyeballs on a clear night.

So what, they put a mock up iss in space now? come on!

The hoaxers arguments simply are not believable, sorry.
(I come off as a bombastic prick sometimes...)

So instead of spewing the same rhetoric over and over that every other moon hoaxer has spewed, prove I am wrong. Prove my eyes are being controlled by a gov't agency, or prove (with real proof I can examine without bias) some other way that your ideas are true.

Bullheaded stuborn jack ass Dennis.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Underminer to Mro on Sun Jun 07 2015 11:52 pm

is the mars rover and everything you stated manned missions?

It shows consistency. If you believe that those missions were legit, you agree that we do indeed have the technical ability to put craft in space
and on other bodies in the solar system. The moon is less of a challenge.

you are missing what i am saying. i dont believe we have the technology to have a round trip to the moon with manned spacecraft.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Dribble to Underminer on Mon Jun 08 2015 01:06 am

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Underminer to Mro on Sun Jun 07 2015 11:52 pm

It shows consistency. If you believe that those missions were legit, you agree that we do indeed have the technical ability to put craft in space and on other bodies in the solar system. The moon is less of a challenge.

we can put inanimate objects in space, but unless you want to be one of fallouts ghouls ;) I don't suggest sending a living being up there.

lets not forget that these probes are fucking rinky-dink and never come back. and sometimes they fail.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Dribble on Mon Jun 08 2015 02:03 pm

That's actually been proven false. If you stayed in the belt yes. But for
as long as the astronauts were in the belt for, very liveable.

probably fried the sperm in their balls, though.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Underminer on Mon Jun 08 2015 02:08 pm

That's right, we did have the tech to go to the moon in 1969. We did not have the tech to fake it. Watch the article again, right down the points. You will see what I mean when you do your own research.

we had the tech to send something to the moon, but i doubt we sent a live crew there and back.

also we did have the technology to fake it.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Dribble on Mon Jun 08 2015 02:12 pm

but it's absolutely provable right now that there not only is a iss, which is in outer space, but it's also proveable people are up there...??

not the same as going to the moon. and it's not 1969
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Dribble to Underminer on Mon Jun 08 2015 01:06:48

we can put inanimate objects in space, but unless you want to be one of fallouts ghouls ;) I don't suggest sending a living being up there.

Do you believe in the theories that the van Allen belts and/or differences in the magnetic fields of the planet as one goes into and beyond orbit impossible? Just curious as to your logic. I like to follow up on a lot of the theories, try to consider myself open minded, and I'm curious, if you don't mind telling a little bit more. :)

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Dribble to Underminer on Mon Jun 08 2015 01:06 am

we can put inanimate objects in space, but unless you want to be one of fallouts ghouls ;) I don't suggest sending a living being up there.

SO who did I speak to on the amateur radio when the ISS flew over my house? So from what you're saying, You do not believe that the ISS is manned either?




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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Hylian on Tue Jun 09 2015 04:37 pm

we had the tech to send something to the moon, but i doubt we sent a live crew there and back.

also we did have the technology to fake it.

Dude, I bet the Reynonlds Wrap company makes mucho money off of you because you
are laying on the BS real thick. Might need an extra layer of foil up there because the propaganda is getting in.




Best Regards,

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Underminer to Mro on Sun Jun 07 2015 11:52 pm

is the mars rover and everything you stated manned missions?

It shows consistency. If you believe that those missions were legit, you agree that we do indeed have the technical ability to put craft in space and on other bodies in the solar system. The moon is less of a
challenge.

you are missing what i am saying. i dont believe we have the technology to have a round trip to the moon with manned spacecraft.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Hylian on Tue Jun 09 2015 04:35 pm

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Dribble on Mon Jun 08 2015 02:03 pm

That's actually been proven false. If you stayed in the belt yes. But for as long as the astronauts were in the belt for, very liveable.

probably fried the sperm in their balls, though.

yeah probably!
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Underminer on Tue Jun 09 2015 16:34:07

you are missing what i am saying. i dont believe we have the technology to have a round trip to the moon with manned spacecraft.

I hear what you're saying. I just don't understand the logic of it. We can verify that we've had the technology to support living conditions in orbit for quite some time. So the question comes down to whether you believe we've had the technical ability to reach other bodies or not. If you do, then believing we sent a manned mission is really not much of a stretch at all, and more an issue of scale. If you don't then you have to believe that everything to do with the space program has been a hoax. A hoax that at this point would be so large and difficult to maintain that it borders on impossible, and hence completely unreasonable to believe.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: kk4qbn to Mro on Tue Jun 09 2015 08:25 pm

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Hylian on Tue Jun 09 2015 04:37 pm

we had the tech to send something to the moon, but i doubt we sent a
live crew there and back.

also we did have the technology to fake it.

Dude, I bet the Reynonlds Wrap company makes mucho money off of you because you are laying on the BS real thick. Might need an extra layer of foil up there because the propaganda is getting in.

you have too much blind faith in our sad space program.

i do not believe we sent a crew of people and had them land on the moon and come back in 1969.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Underminer to Mro on Wed Jun 10 2015 05:44 pm

all, and more an issue of scale. If you don't then you have to believe that everything to do with the space program has been a hoax. A hoax that at
this point would be so large and difficult to maintain that it borders on impossible, and hence completely unreasonable to believe.

i dont know for sure. nobody does. all i know is what i believe.

i think a hoax about the 1969 moon landing could have been fabricated.
there's a lot of people depending on it to happen and a lot could have gone wrong.


it certainly could have been easy to do.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to kk4qbn on Sat Jun 13 2015 12:16 am

you have too much blind faith in our sad space program.

i do not believe we sent a crew of people and had them land on the moon and come back in 1969.

Ok... you have the right ot have your opinion, just as I have the right to believe you're an idiot for having this opinion.




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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: kk4qbn to Mro on Tue Jun 16 2015 12:04 am

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to kk4qbn on Sat Jun 13 2015 12:16 am

you have too much blind faith in our sad space program.

i do not believe we sent a crew of people and had them land on the moon and come back in 1969.

Ok... you have the right ot have your opinion, just as I have the right to believe you're an idiot for having this opinion.

you dont have to resort to namecalling. you werent there so you dont
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you werent there so you dont
know what happened either.

That same logic could be applied to pretty much anything. Heck, I wasn't there for anything that happened before I was born, so how do I really know what happened before I was born? There is photographic and video evidence of the moon landing - how you interpret it is up to you, I suppose. I tend to think we probably didn't have the technology to fake it.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Underminer on Sat Jun 13 2015 00:17:58

i think a hoax about the 1969 moon landing could have been fabricated. there's a lot of people depending on it to happen and a lot could have gone wrong.

Ok, but that is different than saying it couldn't have been done (the landing itself). I'm just saying that if you think it was impossible to go to the moon, that you'd logically have to discount the entire space program at this point, and that is ludicrous.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: kk4qbn to Mro on Tue Jun 16 2015 12:04 am

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to kk4qbn on Sat Jun 13 2015 12:16 am

you have too much blind faith in our sad space program.

i do not believe we sent a crew of people and had them land on the m and come back in 1969.

Ok... you have the right ot have your opinion, just as I have the right believe you're an idiot for having this opinion.

you dont have to resort to namecalling. you werent there so you dont
know what happened either.

Is this Ken Hamm?

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to Mro on Wed Jun 17 2015 04:08 pm

you werent there so you dont
know what happened either.

That same logic could be applied to pretty much anything. Heck, I wasn't for anything that happened before I was born, so how do I really know what happened before I was born? There is photographic and video evidence of t moon landing - how you interpret it is up to you, I suppose. I tend to th we probably didn't have the technology to fake it.

Nightfox

I guess this means that pictures from the civil war, WWI and WWII are all fake? I mean I wasn't there so I don't believe this stuff happend. I'm not responding to you Nightfox. I'm just adding my 2 cents. I've never heard or even considered the Apollo missions were faked by the US, NASA or any other parties envolved. Hmmmm I guess that also means the LEMS Legs I worked on in Westbury Long Island was fake right?

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to Mro on Wed Jun 17 2015 04:08 pm

there for anything that happened before I was born, so how do I really know what happened before I was born? There is photographic and video evidence of the moon landing - how you interpret it is up to you, I suppose. I tend to think we probably didn't have the technology to fake it.

people could record videos and do tricks with photos back then.
shooting people into space and getting them on the moon and back in 1969 just seems doubtful to me.

i dont even think we could do it in today's age.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Underminer to Mro on Wed Jun 17 2015 04:50 pm

Ok, but that is different than saying it couldn't have been done (the landing itself). I'm just saying that if you think it was impossible to go to the moon, that you'd logically have to discount the entire space program at this point, and that is ludicrous.

i believe they could put something on the moon. just not deliver live people there and home safetly.
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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hustler to Nightfox on Thu Jun 18 2015 01:33 pm

I guess this means that pictures from the civil war, WWI and WWII are all fake? I mean I wasn't there so I don't believe this stuff happend. I'm not

if they show live people being shot to the moon and returning, yes.

responding to you Nightfox. I'm just adding my 2 cents. I've never heard or even considered the Apollo missions were faked by the US, NASA or any other parties envolved.

you never heard of theories saying that stuff was faked? do you live under a rock?

I guess that also means the LEMS Legs I worked on
tbury Long Island was fake right?

probably

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Hustler on Thu Jun 18 2015 15:50:55

responding to you Nightfox. I'm just adding my 2 cents. I've never
heard or even considered the Apollo missions were faked by the US,
NASA or any other parties envolved.

you never heard of theories saying that stuff was faked? do you live under a rock?

The thing about those theories is that they come from people who don't work for NASA or aren't involved in the space program (they personally weren't there), and they often aren't experts in physics, space flight, photography, etc. - basically, for anyone providing a theory that any of the space missions were faked, I tend to be very skeptical if they aren't an expert in some of the subject matter. Without being an expert and without having worked for NASA, I don't think the conspiracy theorists have much credibility. It's basically "I think it happened this way, therefore it must have."

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to kk4qbn on Sat Jun 13 2015 12:16 am

Had the lunar landings been "staged", certainly the Soviets would have been the first to expose that sorta hoax. Unless, of course, they "were in on it too".

Actually, the Moon itself is a hoax. It is just a cardboard cutout and spotlight, suspended in the sky by a Black Helicopter.


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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Misfit to Mro on Fri Jun 19 2015 01:04:34

Actually, the Moon itself is a hoax. It is just a cardboard cutout and spotlight, suspended in the sky by a Black Helicopter.

Didn't you know the moon is actually made out of cheese? It is suspended in the sky though - It has to be that way, as the earth is flat. The "spherical Earth" conspiracy theorists have managed to convince the masses otherwise. ;)

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Nightfox on Thu Jun 18 2015 03:47 pm

Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to Mro on Wed Jun 17 2015 04:08 pm

there for anything that happened before I was born, so how do I really kn what happened before I was born? There is photographic and video evidenc of the moon landing - how you interpret it is up to you, I suppose. I te to think we probably didn't have the technology to fake it.

people could record videos and do tricks with photos back then.
shooting people into space and getting them on the moon and back in 1969 jus seems doubtful to me.

i dont even think we could do it in today's age.

Seriously, didn't you see my original post about this?

Faking the moon landing was not possible in 1969. The technology did not exist.

We did and do have the technology right now to land on the moon.

As a nation we don't have the drive we did to fulfill jfk's words.

Remember, JFK was super popular, and his lost galvinized the nation into accomplishing the task he set before them.

Don't confuse lack of will with lack of ability.

I also pointed out that this would not be a US cover up. This would be a world cover up.

You can see the debris yourself on the moon, and the footprints which were not fakeable then or now IMHO.

We also shoot lasers at reflective materials we put on the moon. It's how we know the moon is slowly drifting further away from the earth.

There is a mountain of absolute proof out there for anyone to find. The moon landings happened as suredly as I am breathing air at this very moment.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Misfit to Mro on Fri Jun 19 2015 01:04 am

Actually, the Moon itself is a hoax. It is just a cardboard cutout and spotlight, suspended in the sky by a Black Helicopter.

STRAX: I've declared war on the moon.
VASTRA: Do be quiet, Strax.
STRAX: Too long the moon has hung unmonitored and unsuspected in the sky. It has gained an enormous tactical advantage.
JENNY: There's no one living there.
STRAX: Then it is clearly time to act. They won't suspect a thing.
JENNY: Who won't suspect a thing?
STRAX: Moonites.

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to Mro on Thu Jun 18 2015 06:13 pm

responding to you Nightfox. I'm just adding my 2 cents. I've never
heard or even considered the Apollo missions were faked by the US,
NASA or any other parties envolved.

you never heard of theories saying that stuff was faked? do you live under a rock?

The thing about those theories is that they come from people who don't work for NASA or aren't involved in the space program (they personally weren't

i wasnt saying if they were valid or not, i'm just saying the existed because this guy said he never heard of it.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Misfit to Mro on Fri Jun 19 2015 01:04 am

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to kk4qbn on Sat Jun 13 2015 12:16 am

Had the lunar landings been "staged", certainly the Soviets would have been the first to expose that sorta hoax. Unless, of course, they "were in on
it too".

well might have been very hard for them to do so since they were over in russia.
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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Mro on Thu Jun 18 2015 10:43 pm

people could record videos and do tricks with photos back then.
shooting people into space and getting them on the moon and back in 1969 jus seems doubtful to me.

Seriously, didn't you see my original post about this?

Faking the moon landing was not possible in 1969. The technology did not exist.

sure it did.

We did and do have the technology right now to land on the moon.
Don't confuse lack of will with lack of ability.
We also shoot lasers at reflective materials we put on the moon. It's how
we know the moon is slowly drifting further away from the earth.

i just dont think that in 1969 we had a flawless mission where we brought live humans to the moon, had them walk around and brought them back alive.
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N ³ One thing that people probably often forget to consider is that the US was
N ³ space race with Russia, and the US was probably doing everything we could t
N ³ get to the moon. Sometimes you'd be surprised what you can do when you're
N ³ motivated like that. There are many projects that have been able to succee
N ³ that way, perhaps just barely, but still successful.
N ³
N ³ I agree that a lot of young people don't seem to believe what people used t
N ³ able to accomplish. We should remember that the Egyptians built the pyrami
N ³ thousands of years ago.
N ³
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And to this day we don't know how all of that was accomplished, nor how Stonehenge was built, or now the pyramids of Mexico were built... and the
list goes on...

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Underminer on Sat Jun 13 2015 12:17 am

i dont know for sure. nobody does. all i know is what i believe.

They people who were there "know for sure". The things they set up and left there are clear evidence. The landers are visible from earth. People routinely bouce lasers off the reflectors they set up.

Anyone who believes it didn't happen is a drooling moron at this point.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: kk4qbn to Mro on Tue Jun 16 2015 12:04 am

Ok... you have the right ot have your opinion, just as I have the right to believe you're an idiot for having this opinion.

He's an idiot for SO MANY reasons.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to kk4qbn on Wed Jun 17 2015 03:42 pm

you dont have to resort to namecalling. you werent there so you dont
know what happened either.

Says Mro, king of namecalling on DOVENet.

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Nightfox on Thu Jun 18 2015 03:47 pm

people could record videos and do tricks with photos back then.
shooting people into space and getting them on the moon and back in 1969 just seems doubtful to me.

And the fact they they've recovered the Saturn V boosters, and tested bits of it, and tore one down and were amazed at how well things were put together.

All part of the fake.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Underminer on Thu Jun 18 2015 03:47 pm

i believe they could put something on the moon. just not deliver live people there and home safetly.

"Something" being the lander... which can be confirmed to look like what you can go visit in museums.

He won't do basic research, but will staunchly state his disbelief in it.

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to Mro on Thu Jun 18 2015 06:13 pm

credibility. It's basically "I think it happened this way, therefore it must have."

That's all of Mro's posts in a nutshell. You can often go back through DOVENet
history and find him asserting the exact opposite if you care enough.

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Mro on Thu Jun 18 2015 10:43 pm

You can see the debris yourself on the moon, and the footprints which were not fakeable then or now IMHO.

You can't see the footprints from earth, but you CAN see the lander and bounce lasers off the reflectors.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Misfit on Fri Jun 19 2015 10:21 pm

well might have been very hard for them to do so since they were over in russia.

And everyone knows you can't see the moon from Russia.

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Hylian on Fri Jun 19 2015 10:23 pm

i just dont think that in 1969 we had a flawless mission where we brought live humans to the moon, had them walk around and brought them back alive.

That's how we know you're an idiot.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: KU2S to Nightfox on Fri Jun 19 2015 20:39:00

N ³ I agree that a lot of young people don't seem to believe what people used t N ³ able to accomplish. We should remember that the Egyptians built the pyrami N ³ thousands of years ago.

And to this day we don't know how all of that was accomplished, nor how Stonehenge was built, or now the pyramids of Mexico were built... and the list goes on...

Exactly. And yet we're debating how we may have gotten to the moon only 46 years ago?

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Deuce to Nightfox on Fri Jun 19 2015 21:48:48

credibility. It's basically "I think it happened this way, therefore
it must have."

That's all of Mro's posts in a nutshell. You can often go back through DOVENet history and find him asserting the exact opposite if you care enough.

I think I've already seen enough to know that with the time I've been on Dove-Net.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Deuce to Mro on Fri Jun 19 2015 21:50:54

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Misfit on Fri Jun 19 2015 10:21 pm

well might have been very hard for them to do so since they were over
in russia.

And everyone knows you can't see the moon from Russia.

I was under the impression that in Soviet Russia, Moon lands on you :)
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Misfit on Fri Jun 19 2015 10:21 pm

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Misfit to Mro on Fri Jun 19 2015 01:04 am

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to kk4qbn on Sat Jun 13 2015 12:16 am

Had the lunar landings been "staged", certainly the Soviets would have be the first to expose that sorta hoax. Unless, of course, they "were in on it too".

well might have been very hard for them to do so since they were over in russia.

"well might have been very hard for them to do so since they were over in russia."... ??

Hard for them to tell the world of the "hoax"??

I am confused...
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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Hylian on Fri Jun 19 2015 10:23 pm

Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Mro on Thu Jun 18 2015 10:43 pm

people could record videos and do tricks with photos back then. shooting people into space and getting them on the moon and back in 19 jus seems doubtful to me.

Seriously, didn't you see my original post about this?

Faking the moon landing was not possible in 1969. The technology did not exist.

sure it did.

We did and do have the technology right now to land on the moon.
Don't confuse lack of will with lack of ability.
We also shoot lasers at reflective materials we put on the moon. It's how we know the moon is slowly drifting further away from the earth.

i just dont think that in 1969 we had a flawless mission where we brought li humans to the moon, had them walk around and brought them back alive.

You say we did have the technology to create this hoax, but you give zero percent proof of your claim, while I posted a video with my first post that had a veteran of filmography that was shooting video back then give evidence to the contrary.

So I know he is right, and I know you are not. Just saying "sure it did" does not sprinle magic fairy dust on this pretend moon hoax to make it real.

Mean while his thoughtful, meticulous and fact checked statements give him the credence. In other words, he came at it with cold hard undeniable fact.

You came at it with "sure it did."

Sorry, humans went to and came back to earth alive in 1969.

No point in talking about this anymore. You couldn't sway my mind now with a mack truck.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Deuce to Mro on Fri Jun 19 2015 09:43 pm

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Underminer on Sat Jun 13 2015 12:17 am

i dont know for sure. nobody does. all i know is what i believe.

They people who were there "know for sure". The things they set up and left there are clear evidence. The landers are visible from earth. People routinely bouce lasers off the reflectors they set up.

Anyone who believes it didn't happen is a drooling moron at this point.

Damn Deuce, you hit this one right on the head as well.
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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Deuce to Hylian on Fri Jun 19 2015 09:50 pm

Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Mro on Thu Jun 18 2015 10:43 pm

You can see the debris yourself on the moon, and the footprints which wer not fakeable then or now IMHO.

You can't see the footprints from earth, but you CAN see the lander and boun lasers off the reflectors.

True. I meant if you were fortunate enough to be in the driver seat of some of the cool spaceships we sent that way. Man I love space robotics.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Underminer to Deuce on Sat Jun 20 2015 00:39:38

I was under the impression that in Soviet Russia, Moon lands on you :)

Also in Soviet Russia, conspiracy theories come up with you.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Underminer on Sat Jun 13 2015 12:17 am

i dont know for sure. nobody does. all i know is what i believe.

They people who were there "know for sure". The things they
set up and left there are clear evidence. The landers are
visible from earth. People routinely bouce lasers off the
reflectors they set up.

Howdy! Deuce and Mro,

I remember this.

One of the Manned Moon Missions was to recover a Camera that was sent
to the Moon on a earlier Unmanned Mission, to send pictures of the area
where it landed back to Earth.

I can't remember if the camera sent back Live Video or Slow Scan
Images.

NASA wanted to study if the electronic components in the camera were
changed because of being in the Moon's atsmosphere(sp?) the long time
it was there.

The Astronauts used a cutting tool to remove it from what it was
mounted on.

I can't remember for sure but 'think' the other Astronaut on the Moon
was using a TV Camera to send a video back to Earth of That Camera on
the Moon being removed by his partner.

It was brought back to Earth when they returned.

The Space Capsule was carried aboard a Rocket that was Launched from
Florida, and many days later Splashed Down in the Pacific Ocean with
that camera and samples of rocks and dust, that wasn't in the Capsule
when the Rocket blasted off from Florida.

We have so much to thank NASA for.

Integrated Circuit and lots of other things Electronic and otherwise,
that we take for granted today.

NASA's Tech Brief Magazine gave me a fabulous education when I was a
subscriber to the magazine, telling me about new discoveries that
companies were making because of the Space Program.

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On 06/19/15, Poindexter Fortran said the following...

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Misfit to Mro on Fri Jun 19 2015 01:04 am

Actually, the Moon itself is a hoax. It is just a cardboard cutout an spotlight, suspended in the sky by a Black Helicopter.

STRAX: I've declared war on the moon.
VASTRA: Do be quiet, Strax.
STRAX: Too long the moon has hung unmonitored and unsuspected in the
sky. It has gained an enormous tactical advantage.
JENNY: There's no one living there.
STRAX: Then it is clearly time to act. They won't suspect a thing.
JENNY: Who won't suspect a thing?
STRAX: Moonites.

+1 for Doctor Who reference.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Poindexter Fortran to Misfit on Fri Jun 19 2015 17:17:06

STRAX: Moonites.

They're the 'MoonINites', actually. HTH ;)

http://aqua-teen-hunger-force.wikia.com/wiki/The_Mooninites

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Deuce on Sat Jun 20 2015 06:18 am

You can see the debris yourself on the moon, and the footprints which wer not fakeable then or now IMHO.

You can't see the footprints from earth, but you CAN see the lander and boun lasers off the reflectors.

True. I meant if you were fortunate enough to be in the driver seat of some of the cool spaceships we sent that way. Man I love space robotics.

Also of course, there's all the third-party evidence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Deuce to Mro on Fri Jun 19 2015 09:50 pm

well might have been very hard for them to do so since they were over
in russia.

You *can* see the moon from Russia! It's the moon from the past, though - because they're in a different time zone.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Underminer to Deuce on Sat Jun 20 2015 12:39 am

I was under the impression that in Soviet Russia, Moon lands on you :)

Best comeback this thread!

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Deuce on Sat Jun 20 2015 06:18 am

True. I meant if you were fortunate enough to be in the driver seat of some of the cool spaceships we sent that way. Man I love space robotics.

I dunno, that whole V'Ger thing seemed a bit dangerous.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Mro on Sat Jun 20 2015 06:09:20

"well might have been very hard for them to do so since they were over in russia."... ??

Hard for them to tell the world of the "hoax"??

I am confused...

It should be easy for them to tell the world of the "hoax" in Russia - They could share it on the InterNyet.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Nightfox to KU2S on Fri Jun 19 2015 10:51 pm

And to this day we don't know how all of that was accomplished, nor
how Stonehenge was built, or now the pyramids of Mexico were built... and the list goes on...

Exactly. And yet we're debating how we may have gotten to the moon only 46 years ago?

if we cant figure out how people put rocks into the ground how can we even get people up onto the moon and back alive.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Jun 21 2015 12:31:57

Exactly. And yet we're debating how we may have gotten to the moon
only 46 years ago?

if we cant figure out how people put rocks into the ground how can we even get people up onto the moon and back alive.

Things like the pyramids, Stonehenge, etc. were built thousands of years ago and records of how those were built might have been lost. The point was that 1969 was only 46 years ago, so we should still have a clear record of that moon mission and not have to debate about whether it was a hoax.

Nightfox

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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Mro on Sat Jun 20 2015 06:14 am

You say we did have the technology to create this hoax, but you give zero percent proof of your claim, while I posted a video with my first post that had a veteran of filmography that was shooting video back then give
evidence to the contrary.

it's a believe, i dont need to post proof. i saw your video and it looked like crap so i shut it off. if you want proof look at everything that happened with nasa since thing. they're pathetic.

Sorry, humans went to and came back to earth alive in 1969.

how do you know? were you there?
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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Hylian on Sun Jun 21 2015 12:34:21

Sorry, humans went to and came back to earth alive in 1969.

how do you know? were you there?

We don't need to have been there - There's plenty of photographic and video proof (derp).

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Jun 21 2015 10:52 am

if we cant figure out how people put rocks into the ground how can we even get people up onto the moon and back alive.

Things like the pyramids, Stonehenge, etc. were built thousands of years
ago and records of how those were built might have been lost. The point
was that 1969 was only 46 years ago, so we should still have a clear record of that moon mission and not have to debate about whether it was a hoax.

do you even think we could have a moon mission now and pull it off? seems like it would be extrememly difficult in today's age.
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Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Jun 21 2015 12:54 pm

how do you know? were you there?

We don't need to have been there - There's plenty of photographic and video proof (derp).

we have photos and videos of bigfoot too.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Hylian to Mro on Sat Jun 20 2015 06:09:20

"well might have been very hard for them to do so since they were over in russia."... ??

Hard for them to tell the world of the "hoax"??

I am confused...

It should be easy for them to tell the world of the "hoax" in Russia - They could share it on the InterNyet.

Nightfox

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Cute... ;)

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Jun 21 2015 19:50:39

do you even think we could have a moon mission now and pull it off? seems like it would be extrememly difficult in today's age.

Since I already think it was done in 1969, then yes, I think it could be done today. It might be difficult (it certainly would have had to be difficult in 1969), but it seems plausible to me. We've sent astronauts up in space shuttles and to the space station. Astronauts even stay on the space station for extended periods of time. It doesn't seem that much of a stretch to think we could send people to the moon.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Jun 21 2015 12:31 pm

if we cant figure out how people put rocks into the ground how can we even get people up onto the moon and back alive.

Exactly!

They're very similar things, history and engineering.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Jun 21 2015 07:50 pm

do you even think we could have a moon mission now and pull it off? seems like it would be extrememly difficult in today's age.

'cause it was so easy last time.

Shame none of the science was documented in any way.

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On 06/21/15, Mro said the following...

how do you know? were you there?

Calling Ken Hamm! Calling Ken Hamm!

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On 06/21/15, Mro said the following...

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Jun 21 2015 10:52 am

if we cant figure out how people put rocks into the ground how can even get people up onto the moon and back alive.

Things like the pyramids, Stonehenge, etc. were built thousands of year ago and records of how those were built might have been lost. The poin was that 1969 was only 46 years ago, so we should still have a clear re of that moon mission and not have to debate about whether it was a hoax

do you even think we could have a moon mission now and pull it off?
seems like it would be extrememly difficult in today's age.

It's a good thing that what people can and cannot do is not defined by what
Mro believes to be possible, or not possible.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to Hylian on Sun Jun 21 2015 09:52 am

It should be easy for them to tell the world of the "hoax" in Russia - They could share it on the InterNyet.

Kremvax didn't go online until 1984, though.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: KU2S to Nightfox on Fri Jun 19 2015 20:39:00

N ³ I agree that a lot of young people don't seem to believe what people used t N ³ able to accomplish. We should remember that the Egyptians built the pyrami N ³ thousands of years ago.

And to this day we don't know how all of that was accomplished, nor
how Stonehenge was built, or now the pyramids of Mexico were built... and the list goes on...

Exactly. And yet we're debating how we may have gotten to the moon only 46 years ago?

Nightfox

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Well, I happen to remember the Apollo program. I remember each mission, each news broadcast, and I have absolutely no doubt that we made it to the moon in 1969. We couldn't do it today, we don't have the national pride, the drive, nor the technology today to reach the moon. That's not to say that we
couldn't develop the technology within a few years, but the fact remains that we just do not have a vehicle capable of getting us to the moon at this time. It's a shame. There was a lot of excitement in this country during the Apollo program, we sure could use that sense of pride and excitement now!

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Jun 21 2015 06:48 pm

do you even think we could have a moon mission now and pull it off? seems like it would be extrememly difficult in today's age.

Since I already think it was done in 1969, then yes, I think it could be done today. It might be difficult (it certainly would have had to be difficult in 1969), but it seems plausible to me. We've sent astronauts up in space shuttles and to the space station. Astronauts even stay on the

there's a lot of ignorance here on both our parts because we are not scientists.


the space station is about 200-270 miles from earth
it doesnt take long to get there

our satalite, the moon is ~238,854+ miles away.
it takes about 3 days to get there.

there is no comparison. it's 2 different situations.

there's a lot more dangers involved with getting to the moon and landing than just going up to earth's orbit and docking with the space station.

also factor in having people go out in 1969 and walk around on the moon and return alive. there were also many dangers to overcome when landing and returning. there are precise windows that have to be maintained when landing on our moon and earth.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Gryphon to Mro on Mon Jun 22 2015 09:38 am

do you even think we could have a moon mission now and pull it off? seems like it would be extrememly difficult in today's age.

It's a good thing that what people can and cannot do is not defined by what Mro believes to be possible, or not possible.

well, i'm not your overlord [yet], so feel free to believe anything you want.

then i will feed you pathetic fools to the pigs when i take control of the planet and listen to your cries for mercy.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Gryphon to Mro on Mon Jun 22 2015 09:35 am

On 06/21/15, Mro said the following...

how do you know? were you there?

Calling Ken Hamm! Calling Ken Hamm!

what are you talking about?
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to Nightfox on Mon Jun 22 2015 17:00:40

there is no comparison. it's 2 different situations.
there's a lot more dangers involved with getting to the moon and landing than just going up to earth's orbit and docking with the space station.

That may be true, but reaching Mars is even more involved, and we do that regularly. Plotting orbits around multiple planets is even more involved, yet we did that with the Voyager program.

Either you accept that the moon was possible, or you discount the entire space program. Not to mention, as has been said multiple times, you can verify the artifacts that were left behind yourself. You can litterally see with your own eyes to believe. There is more evidence for us having been to the moon than just about any other contemporary acheivement.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: KU2S to Nightfox on Mon Jun 22 2015 10:31 am

Well, I happen to remember the Apollo program. I remember each mission, each news broadcast, and I have absolutely no doubt that we made it to the moon in 1969. We couldn't do it today, we don't have the national pride, the drive, nor the technology today to reach the moon. That's not to say that we couldn't develop the technology within a few years, but the fact remains that we just do not have a vehicle capable of getting us to the
moon at this time. It's a shame. There was a lot of excitement in this country during the Apollo program, we sure could use that sense of pride
and excitement now!

okay, lets say we did have the tech and we had everything ready. the day before something went wrong and we couldnt do the mission. would we have gone through the embarassment of it all, or would some devious government fucker come up with a way to fake it ?
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Underminer to Mro on Mon Jun 22 2015 05:45 pm

That may be true, but reaching Mars is even more involved, and we do that regularly. Plotting orbits around multiple planets is even more involved, yet we did that with the Voyager program.

not with live people. and our probes dont come back
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On 06/22/15, Mro said the following...

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Gryphon to Mro on Mon Jun 22 2015 09:35 am

On 06/21/15, Mro said the following...

how do you know? were you there?

Calling Ken Hamm! Calling Ken Hamm!

what are you talking about?

http://www.funnyjunk.com/You+weren+t+there+you+don+t+know/funny-pictures/500619 7/

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Gryphon to Mro on Tue Jun 23 2015 18:56:00

how do you know? were you there?

Calling Ken Hamm! Calling Ken Hamm!

what are you talking about?

http://www.funnyjunk.com/You+weren+t+there+you+don+t+know/funny-pictures/5 00619 7/

It's a reference to the creation-evolution debate between Ken Hamm and Bill Nye.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: KU2S to Nightfox on Mon Jun 22 2015 10:31 am

Well, I happen to remember the Apollo program. I remember each mission, each news broadcast, and I have absolutely no doubt that we made it to the moon in 1969. We couldn't do it today, we don't have the national pride, the drive, nor the technology today to reach the moon. That's
not to say that we couldn't develop the technology within a few years, but the fact remains that we just do not have a vehicle capable of getting us to the moon at this time. It's a shame. There was a lot of excitement in this country during the Apollo program, we sure could use that sense of pride and excitement now!

okay, lets say we did have the tech and we had everything ready. the day before something went wrong and we couldnt do the mission. would we have gone through the embarassment of it all, or would some devious government fucker come up with a way to fake it ?
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Exactly!
They're very similar things, history and engineering.

Hehehe, this gave me a good chuckle.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to Nightfox on Mon Jun 22 2015 05:00 pm

there's a lot of ignorance here on both our parts because we are not scientists.

There's a lot more from your side.

the space station is about 200-270 miles from earth
it doesnt take long to get there

How would you know, have you been there?

our satalite, the moon is ~238,854+ miles away.
it takes about 3 days to get there.

Or would, if it were possible to go right?

there is no comparison. it's 2 different situations.

The hard part is orbit. The rest is so simple that it can be done with high school algebra and things you find in a shop class.

there's a lot more dangers involved with getting to the moon and landing than just going up to earth's orbit and docking with the space station.

Then landing on earth again. Landing on earth is a lot more dangerous than landing on the moon.

also factor in having people go out in 1969 and walk around on the moon and return alive. there were also many dangers to overcome when landing and returning. there are precise windows that have to be maintained when landing on our moon and earth.

Yesh, luckily we had scientists to figure that out, and we have records of how.
All the math can be done on a slide ruler (and most of it was).

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to Gryphon on Mon Jun 22 2015 05:05 pm

then i will feed you pathetic fools to the pigs when i take control of the planet and listen to your cries for mercy.

I just don't believe that's possible. The technology isn't there and it woudl be too dangerous to try.

Maybe you can fake it.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to KU2S on Mon Jun 22 2015 07:42 pm

okay, lets say we did have the tech and we had everything ready. the day before something went wrong and we couldnt do the mission. would we have gone through the embarassment of it all, or would some devious government fucker come up with a way to fake it ?

There were a tonne of setbacks going all the way back to Apollo 1. Apollo 8 was supposed to be an LM test, but the LM wasn't ready, so they tested the CSM in lunar orbit early. They still had months of time to delay Apollo 11 into and still make their goals.

No, they wouldn't have faked it, they COULDN'T have faked it even if they wanted to.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to Underminer on Mon Jun 22 2015 09:31 pm

That may be true, but reaching Mars is even more involved, and we do that regularly. Plotting orbits around multiple planets is even more involved, yet we did that with the Voyager program.

not with live people. and our probes dont come back

So you're suggesting nothing has ever landed a human from space? Of course you are, you're just that stupid.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Deuce to Mro on Sun Jun 21 2015 11:12 pm

if we cant figure out how people put rocks into the ground how can we even get people up onto the moon and back alive.

Exactly!

They're very similar things, history and engineering.

ROFLMAO!, I wanted to give an educated answer, it's just hard to.. what can you
say to something like that? "A lot of crap was lost during the dark ages" you know.. with the inquisition and stuff like that.. book burnings.. all that jazz..


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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to Nightfox on Mon Jun 22 2015 05:00 pm

the space station is about 200-270 miles from earth
it doesnt take long to get there
our satalite, the moon is ~238,854+ miles away.

People stay on the space station for exteneded periods of time.. no problem there.

our satalite, the moon is ~238,854+ miles away.
it takes about 3 days to get there.

people stay in the space station 6 months at a time, why would 3 days be an issue for travel.

there is no comparison. it's 2 different situations.

there's a lot more dangers involved with getting to the moon and landing than just going up to earth's orbit and docking with the space station.

what dangers? same dangers as being in high earth orbit, solar radiation, the only difference is that it is further away, the lunar orbitor sets its sights for the moon then goes into orbit around the moon just like it would the earth,
really the only difference is math.. whats so hard to understand.. you really have a thick, baloney incrusted skull..


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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Nightfox to Mro on Tue Jun 23 2015 07:38 pm

It's a reference to the creation-evolution debate between Ken Hamm and Bill Nye.

bill nye is a failed comic and a nutbag.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: KU2S to Mro on Tue Jun 23 2015 02:30 pm

The mission would have been postponed, cancelled if needed, and a replacement mission scheduled. The media attention focused on the space program would not have allowed a failure to occur in obsurity. Man, I've seen paranoid conspiracy nuts before, but man... you are the top of the

nope, they would have shot a video of it and faked it.
just so they wouldnt be embarassed. because back then we were proud americans who had to beat the ruskies.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: kk4qbn to Mro on Thu Jun 25 2015 06:46 pm

People stay on the space station for exteneded periods of time.. no problem there.

you are totally missing the point, dude.

what dangers? same dangers as being in high earth orbit, solar radiation, the only difference is that it is further away, the lunar orbitor sets its sights for the moon then goes into orbit around the moon just like it would the earth, really the only difference is math.. whats so hard to understand.. you really have a thick, baloney incrusted skull..

more namecalling.


fucking get over it. why are you fucking taking it personal? are you a fucking astronaught? this shit happened in 1969, why are you acting like i hit your puppy with my fucking truck. jesus christ.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to kk4qbn on Thu Jun 25 2015 10:42 pm

fucking get over it. why are you fucking taking it personal? are you a fucking astronaught? this shit happened in 1969, why are you acting like i hit your puppy with my fucking truck. jesus christ.

I think he just can't belive how monumentally stupid you are proving yourself to be. It's like talking to someone who believes the earth is flat and supported on the backs of turtles... you just don't know where to start and you
end up trying to figure out just how far the stupidity extends.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: kk4qbn to Mro on Thu Jun 25 2015 06:46 pm

there's a lot more dangers involved with getting to the moon and
landing than just going up to earth's orbit and docking with the space
station.

what dangers? same dangers as being in high earth orbit, solar
radiation, the only difference is that it is further away, the lunar orbitor sets its sights for the moon then goes into orbit around the
moon just like it would the earth, really the only difference is math.. whats so hard to understand.. you really have a thick, baloney incrusted skull..

Sending a ship to where the moon is going to be when they get there, has always impressed me. How do you even determine if the vehicle is on the course, with everything in relative motion?

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Binary Ninja to kk4qbn on Thu Jun 25 2015 19:28:47

Sending a ship to where the moon is going to be when they get there, has always impressed me. How do you even determine if the vehicle is on the course, with everything in relative motion?

I imagine they can probably fairly easily calculate where the moon is going to be, so the know where the vehicle needs to be and would have to just aim the vehicle to that point.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to kk4qbn on Thu Jun 25 2015 10:42 pm

more namecalling.
fucking get over it. why are you fucking taking it personal? are you a fucking astronaught? this shit happened in 1969, why are you acting like i hit your puppy with my fucking truck. jesus christ.

Why do you call that name calling? I did'nt call you a name, I said you had a thick, baloney encrusted skull, and it is obvius you do, Why must you resort to
cursing and acting like a 5 year old? is you little ego bruised? have I hurt the only thing that keeps that brain ticking? obviously there is no intelligence in there.

I'll be halting any further corrospondence with you on this conversation, because if I stoop as low to continue arguing with you it make me look no more intelligent that you do, and I just cannot have that weight on my consience.


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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Binary Ninja to kk4qbn on Thu Jun 25 2015 07:28 pm

Sending a ship to where the moon is going to be when they get there, has always impressed me. How do you even determine if the vehicle is on the course, with everything in relative motion?

Even the Mayans, and all the ancient cultures knew where the moon and all the stars would be at anytime, it's called astronomy.. how do you think the calendar and the concept of time came to past? its all in the MATH.


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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: kk4qbn to Binary Ninja on Fri Jun 26 2015 10:37 am

Sending a ship to where the moon is going to be when they get there,
has always impressed me. How do you even determine if the vehicle is
on the course, with everything in relative motion?

Even the Mayans, and all the ancient cultures knew where the moon and
all the stars would be at anytime, it's called astronomy.. how do you think the calendar and the concept of time came to past? its all in the MATH.

Is that some sort of obtuse humor, or sarcasm? I didn't say I was skeptical about it being possible, or even puzzled about how it is done. I said I was impressed by it.

And even with the various bits of math that need to be done, how do you confirm the vehicle is on the flight path? That it is going the speed it needs to
go? That it has made the right amount of progress in the right amount of
time? Radar mesurements from the ground?

Throwing a pass to where a receiver is going to be is impressive. Catching a hit in the outfield is impressive. Shooting a craft into a correct orbit around the moon? Also impressive.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: kk4qbn to Mro on Fri Jun 26 2015 10:30 am

Why do you call that name calling? I did'nt call you a name, I said you had a thick, baloney encrusted skull, and it is obvius you do, Why must you resort to cursing and acting like a 5 year old? is you little ego bruised? have I hurt the only thing that keeps that brain ticking? obviously there
is no intelligence in there.

hey, dont forget to switch your tampons or you will get toxic shock, nancy
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to kk4qbn on Thu Jun 25 2015 22:42:14

fucking get over it. why are you fucking taking it personal? are you a fucking astronaught? this shit happened in 1969, why are you acting like i hit your puppy with my fucking truck. jesus christ.

Because idiots like you can vote. Or at least they could if they had the mental fortitude required to operate a pencil.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Underminer to Mro on Sat Jun 27 2015 10:15 pm

fucking get over it. why are you fucking taking it personal? are you a fucking astronaught? this shit happened in 1969, why are you acting like i hit your puppy with my fucking truck. jesus christ.

Because idiots like you can vote. Or at least they could if they had the mental fortitude required to operate a pencil.

we dont use pencils anymore when voting.

anyways, i'm pretty sure my IQ is higher than yours.

also you said you twitfiltered me, buttminer.
i still see you replying.
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Binary Ninja to kk4qbn on Fri Jun 26 2015 01:40 pm

Is that some sort of obtuse humor, or sarcasm? I didn't say I was skeptical about it being possible, or even puzzled about how it is done. I said I was impressed by it.

No sarcasm intened, I misread your post obviously.

And even with the various bits of math that need to be done, how do you confirm the vehicle is on the flight path? That it is going the speed it needs to
go? That it has made the right amount of progress in the right amount of time? Radar mesurements from the ground?

Telemetry, Calculations, and a whole bunch of luck and Brass Balls.. Signals can be pinged and correct calculations can be made.. A lot of variables go into. but to put it bluntly, the austronauts has the right stuff and had some balls to trust the "geeks" with their slide rulers that had even more "right stuff".

Throwing a pass to where a receiver is going to be is impressive. Catching
a hit in the outfield is impressive. Shooting a craft into a correct orbit around the moon? Also impressive.

Yes, all is very impressive.. it's amazing what our brains are capable of when we focus correctly and take out minds off the bullshit going on around us. With
the current technology of my RC gear, if it were legal, I could just about fly into LEO, Dunno about getting about down, but I could get up there, I have telemetry waypoint flying, sonar, and many other arduino modules I could add to
my glider to do just about anything I could set my mind to, at very cheap prices. Just takes a lot of tweaking to get it all working correctly, But is very rewarding to see the end product.


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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to Underminer on Mon Jun 29 2015 11:35 am

Buttminer.....

Last time I heard THAT was back in '63
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mickey to Mro on Mon Jun 29 2015 05:10 pm

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: Mro to Underminer on Mon Jun 29 2015 11:35 am

Buttminer.....

Last time I heard THAT was back in '63
Mickey

was that right before you were buttmined?
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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: kk4qbn to Binary Ninja on Mon Jun 29 2015 02:21 pm

Is that some sort of obtuse humor, or sarcasm? I didn't say I was
skeptical about it being possible, or even puzzled about how it is
done. I said I was impressed by it.

No sarcasm intened, I misread your post obviously.

Yes, without a smile or a chuckle, a comment can sound sharper than it should. My bad.

Yes, all is very impressive.. it's amazing what our brains are capable of when we focus correctly and take out minds off the bullshit going on around us. With the current technology of my RC gear, if it were legal, I could just about fly into LEO, Dunno about getting about down, but I could get up there, I have telemetry waypoint flying, sonar, and many other arduino modules I could add to my glider to do just about anything I could set my mind to, at very cheap prices. Just takes a lot of tweaking to get it all working correctly, But is very rewarding to see the end product.

In the age of easy everything, many people have a hard time staying focused enough to get much done.

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Deuce to Mro on Fri Jun 19 2015 21:43:07

Re: Re: Fake moon landings, not.
By: Mro to Underminer on Sat Jun 13 2015 12:17 am

i dont know for sure. nobody does. all i know is what i believe.

They people who were there "know for sure". The things they set up and left there are clear evidence. The landers are visible from earth. People routinely bouce lasers off the reflectors they set up.

Anyone who believes it didn't happen is a drooling moron at this point.

Your rguing with an internet troll, you can't win. If you say it happen he'll say it didn't, it's as simple as that. ;}

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Re: Re: Fake moon landings, n
By: KU2S to Nightfox on Mon Jun 22 2015 09:31 am

I agree. The generations after me (and some in mine - 80s) are stupid. lol.

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