• dos doors

    From Hylian@VERT to All on Saturday, May 09, 2015 11:59:02
    I think I am out of luck using the dos doors. I tried some with errors.

    I am running Linux... any way to port those to a very well used version of dosbox? ;)

    I refuse to use MS products again...
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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Hylian on Saturday, May 09, 2015 16:40:46
    Hello Hylian,

    On 09 May 15 11:59, Hylian wrote to All:

    I think I am out of luck using the dos doors. I tried some with
    errors.

    I am running Linux... any way to port those to a very well used
    version of dosbox? ;)

    I refuse to use MS products again...

    On Linux, you'll probably have much better luck with Dosemu than you would with
    Dosbox.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Hylian@VERT to Accession on Saturday, May 09, 2015 19:50:42
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: Accession to Hylian on Sat May 09 2015 04:40 pm

    Hello Hylian,

    On 09 May 15 11:59, Hylian wrote to All:

    I think I am out of luck using the dos doors. I tried some with
    errors.

    I am running Linux... any way to port those to a very well used
    version of dosbox? ;)

    I refuse to use MS products again...

    On Linux, you'll probably have much better luck with Dosemu than you would w Dosbox.

    Regards,
    Nick


    hmm, never heard of it. time to do some digging.

    Thanks for the heads up/
    -Denny
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  • From Rastus@VERT/EWBBS to Hylian on Sunday, May 10, 2015 14:53:18
    Hylian wrote:

    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: Accession to Hylian on Sat May 09 2015 04:40 pm

    Hello Hylian,

    On 09 May 15 11:59, Hylian wrote to All:

    I think I am out of luck using the dos doors. I tried some with errors.

    I am running Linux... any way to port those to a very well used version of dosbox? ;)

    I refuse to use MS products again...

    On Linux, you'll probably have much better luck with Dosemu than you
    would w Dosbox.

    Regards,
    Nick


    hmm, never heard of it. time to do some digging.


    What flavor of Linux are your running? dosemu should be in most
    repositories and as such require very little tinkering to get it optimized
    for your needs.

    I don't blame you for not wanting to run MS garbage anymore... if Windows
    were the only choice I wouldn't be running a BBS anymore.. I worked as a computer tech for years and got so sick of cleaning up Windows machines I swore I'd never again mess with that crappy OS again and I have not looked back! I converted my family over to Linux several years ago and have had to make very few house calls since. I'm not bashing windows users.. to the contrary.. I used to make a nice living off of Windows users.. if you like
    it great! Techs need your money!! But I won't have anything to do with it.. The ONLY MS program I run now a days is the QB 4.5 compiler from time to
    time and I run that under dosemu. Most older dos based stuff runs fine
    under dosemu (or dosbox) and a lot of Win32/64 stuff runs ok under Wine or Mono.. Even so.. I mainly stick to open source programs.. there is little
    need to run expensive proprietary software now-a-days.. better to run open source and donate to the authors (when I can) than to pay corporate giants.. or at least that is my opinion..

    Fat Rastus

    Thanks for the heads up/
    -Denny
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Rastus on Monday, May 11, 2015 16:36:55
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: Rastus to Hylian on Sun May 10 2015 02:53 pm

    I don't blame you for not wanting to run MS garbage anymore... if Windows were the only choice I wouldn't be running a BBS anymore.. I worked as a computer tech for years and got so sick of cleaning up Windows machines I swore I'd never again mess with that crappy OS again and I have not looked back! I converted my family over to Linux several years ago and have had
    to make very few house calls since. I'm not bashing windows users.. to the contrary.. I used to make a nice living off of Windows users.. if you like it great! Techs need your money!! But I won't have anything to do with
    it.. The ONLY MS program I run now a days is the QB 4.5 compiler from time to time and I run that under dosemu. Most older dos based stuff runs fine under dosemu (or dosbox) and a lot of Win32/64 stuff runs ok under Wine or Mono.. Even so.. I mainly stick to open source programs.. there is little need to run expensive proprietary software now-a-days.. better to run open


    well, it's good to keep your options open. i'm not a microsoft hater. i'm more of a google and fb hater now. those guys are out to take over the world and own you. microsoft just wants to make money like any other company.

    i never had to pay a tech to repair one of my windows installs. i think most of the time it is the user who craps up the operating system, so regardless of what os you are running, shit will hit the fan eventually because people are the weakest link.

    there are some things that windows is just better at, and that is why it's such a popular operating sytem. i run windows and linux oses, but i can not even force myself to use a GUI under linux. i dont like any window manager i see. i dont like the feel of any of them. i prefer windows, command prompt, or powershell. with linux i'm cli only.

    i converted my mom over to linux because her foster kids kept on fucking up her computer. she couldnt do the same things she could on windows, and even when offered open source alternatives, she'd rather use windows. so, she gets windows with a restore usb drive to fix any screwups.
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  • From Hylian@VERT to Rastus on Monday, May 11, 2015 19:01:09
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: Rastus to Hylian on Sun May 10 2015 02:53 pm

    Hylian wrote:

    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: Accession to Hylian on Sat May 09 2015 04:40 pm

    Hello Hylian,

    On 09 May 15 11:59, Hylian wrote to All:

    I think I am out of luck using the dos doors. I tried some with errors.

    I am running Linux... any way to port those to a very well used version of dosbox? ;)

    I refuse to use MS products again...

    On Linux, you'll probably have much better luck with Dosemu than you would w Dosbox.

    Regards,
    Nick


    hmm, never heard of it. time to do some digging.


    What flavor of Linux are your running? dosemu should be in most repositories and as such require very little tinkering to get it optimized for your needs.

    I don't blame you for not wanting to run MS garbage anymore... if Windows were the only choice I wouldn't be running a BBS anymore.. I worked as a computer tech for years and got so sick of cleaning up Windows machines I swore I'd never again mess with that crappy OS again and I have not looked back! I converted my family over to Linux several years ago and have had to make very few house calls since. I'm not bashing windows users.. to the contrary.. I used to make a nice living off of Windows users.. if you like it great! Techs need your money!! But I won't have anything to do with it.. The ONLY MS program I run now a days is the QB 4.5 compiler from time to time and I run that under dosemu. Most older dos based stuff runs fine under dosemu (or dosbox) and a lot of Win32/64 stuff runs ok under Wine or Mono.. Even so.. I mainly stick to open source programs.. there is little need to run expensive proprietary software now-a-days.. better to run open source and donate to the authors (when I can) than to pay corporate giants.. or at least that is my opinion..

    Fat Rastus

    Thanks for the heads up/
    -Denny
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  • From Hylian@VERT to Mro on Monday, May 11, 2015 19:05:07
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: Mro to Rastus on Mon May 11 2015 04:36 pm

    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: Rastus to Hylian on Sun May 10 2015 02:53 pm

    I don't blame you for not wanting to run MS garbage anymore... if Windows were the only choice I wouldn't be running a BBS anymore.. I worked as a computer tech for years and got so sick of cleaning up Windows machines I swore I'd never again mess with that crappy OS again and I have not looke back! I converted my family over to Linux several years ago and have had to make very few house calls since. I'm not bashing windows users.. to t contrary.. I used to make a nice living off of Windows users.. if you lik it great! Techs need your money!! But I won't have anything to do with it.. The ONLY MS program I run now a days is the QB 4.5 compiler from tim to time and I run that under dosemu. Most older dos based stuff runs fin under dosemu (or dosbox) and a lot of Win32/64 stuff runs ok under Wine o Mono.. Even so.. I mainly stick to open source programs.. there is little need to run expensive proprietary software now-a-days.. better to run op


    well, it's good to keep your options open. i'm not a microsoft hater. i'm mo of a google and fb hater now. those guys are out to take over the world and own you. microsoft just wants to make money like any other company.

    i never had to pay a tech to repair one of my windows installs. i think most the time it is the user who craps up the operating system, so regardless of what os you are running, shit will hit the fan eventually because people are the weakest link.

    there are some things that windows is just better at, and that is why it's such a popular operating sytem. i run windows and linux oses, but i can not even force myself to use a GUI under linux. i dont like any window manager i see. i dont like the feel of any of them. i prefer windows, command prompt, powershell. with linux i'm cli only.

    i converted my mom over to linux because her foster kids kept on fucking up computer. she couldnt do the same things she could on windows, and even when offered open source alternatives, she'd rather use windows. so, she gets windows with a restore usb drive to fix any screwups.

    I don't hate MS prods either. I just have been using Linux for so long now that whenever I fire up windows I am frustrated in 5 minutes that i can't open a terminal window and launch a command I want instantly.

    (And please don't equate Linux CLI to windows cmd options. Thats like the mouse being compared to the elephant. Linux is the big grey one with the extra nose baggage.)

    -Denny
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Hylian on Monday, May 11, 2015 23:10:59
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: Hylian to Mro on Mon May 11 2015 07:05 pm


    I don't hate MS prods either. I just have been using Linux for so long now that whenever I fire up windows I am frustrated in 5 minutes that i can't open a terminal window and launch a command I want instantly.

    (And please don't equate Linux CLI to windows cmd options. Thats like the mouse being compared to the elephant. Linux is the big grey one with the extra nose baggage.)


    well i wasnt saying the windows command prompt and a linux shell are compararable, but i do have command prompt utils that mimic certain linux programs and shell functions. powershell is very powerful, too.
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  • From Ragnarok@VERT/DOCKSUD to Hylian on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 12:19:36
    El 09/05/15 a las 15:59, Hylian escibió:
    I think I am out of luck using the dos doors. I tried some with errors.

    I am running Linux... any way to port those to a very well used version of dosbox? ;)

    I refuse to use MS products again...

    i'm running several dos doors in dosemu on debian.

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  • From Hylian@VERT to Ragnarok on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 10:44:56
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: Ragnarok to Hylian on Wed May 13 2015 12:19 pm

    El 09/05/15 a las 15:59, Hylian escibió:
    I think I am out of luck using the dos doors. I tried some with errors.

    I am running Linux... any way to port those to a very well used version of dosbox? ;)

    I refuse to use MS products again...

    i'm running several dos doors in dosemu on debian.

    I'll definetly have to give that a try then!
    -Denny
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  • From Hylian@VERT to Ragnarok on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 17:25:49
    El 09/05/15 a las 15:59, Hylian escibió:
    I think I am out of luck using the dos doors. I tried some with errors.

    I am running Linux... any way to port those to a very well used version of dosbox? ;)

    I refuse to use MS products again...

    i'm running several dos doors in dosemu on debian.

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    I got mixed up. I want to connect to, not run a dos door. any way to do that in linux 64 bit debian using dosemu or dosbox?

    -Denny
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  • From mark firestone@VERT/QBBS to MRO on Saturday, May 16, 2015 09:45:00
    --- MRO wrote --
    well, it's good to keep your options open. i'm not a microsoft hater. i'm
    of a google and fb hater now. those guys are out to take over the world a own you. microsoft just wants to make money like any other company...

    I used to earn my living from Novell... then I earned my living migrating Novell to MS stuff... which at the time wasn't as good, but it was cheaper.

    Over the last 20 years, Windows server has become ture product.uct, amy mortgaMS did go beyond what "any other any should do, and certianly what is legal, to become a near monopoly. Oh, and Novell was very, very stupid.


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  • From mark firestone@VERT/QBBS to MRO on Saturday, May 16, 2015 09:46:00
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    well i wasnt saying the windows command prompt and a linux shell ar compararable, but i do have command prompt utils that mimic certain linu programs and shell functions. powershell is very powerful, too

    I keep typing ls in "DOS" command shells, and rm and whatnot. It drives me
    ba


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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to mark firestone on Saturday, May 16, 2015 08:38:03
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: mark firestone to MRO on Sat May 16 2015 09:45 am

    Oh, and Novell was very, very stupid.

    I was a Novell CNE in a former life; it was a great package, but I felt like hubris killed them. They had a better directory service than old AD, but AD was good enough, and a hell of a lot cheaper.

    That was right about the time NT 4.0 became a sorta-worthwhile server product. Novell had them on uptime, but NT was Good Enough. It probably didn't hurt
    that getting Windows95 to work with Novell servers was never easy, and NT just worked.

    Later on, I got the feeling Ray Noorda and Scott McNealy were more interested in showing Microsoft the finger than competing -- maybe they'd given up at that point.

    I think about Novell from time to time. My company now occupies the campus that Novell used to have in the late '80s. I remember going to Novell user group meetings there - they had dry cleaning and day care on campus, and seeing high chairs in the cafe threw me for a loop. big lawns, walking paths, fountains and a koi pond. I was working in a basement that looked like the IT Crowd's office space at the time...

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to mark firestone on Saturday, May 16, 2015 09:22:48
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: mark firestone to MRO on Sat May 16 2015 09:46 am

    I keep typing ls in "DOS" command shells, and rm and whatnot. It drives me ba

    alias and DOSKEY are your friends. :)

    I solved the *nix commands in DOS quite handily long ago; I have a directory of standard *ix text commands, like ls, sed, awk, find, tee, and so on for DOS that I've installed on every system I've owned since probably 1992.

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  • From Hylian@VERT to mark firestone on Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:37:38
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: mark firestone to MRO on Sat May 16 2015 09:46 am

    --- MRO wrote --

    well i wasnt saying the windows command prompt and a linux shell ar compararable, but i do have command prompt utils that mimic certain linu programs and shell functions. powershell is very powerful, too

    I keep typing ls in "DOS" command shells, and rm and whatnot. It drives me ba


    same here mark, same here.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to mark firestone on Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:52:39
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: mark firestone to MRO on Sat May 16 2015 09:46:00

    I keep typing ls in "DOS" command shells, and rm and whatnot. It drives me ba

    I use both the Windows command shell and Bash in Linux/*nix often enough that sometimes I try using ls, rm, mv, etc. in the Windows command shell and dir, move, copy, etc. in *nix..

    Nightfox

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to mark firestone on Saturday, May 16, 2015 13:20:36
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: mark firestone to MRO on Sat May 16 2015 09:46 am

    --- MRO wrote --

    well i wasnt saying the windows command prompt and a linux shell ar compararable, but i do have command prompt utils that mimic certain linu programs and shell functions. powershell is very powerful, too

    I keep typing ls in "DOS" command shells, and rm and whatnot. It drives me ba

    i have a ls command prompt util.

    the REAL dangerous thing is having multiple ssh windows open to servers. i keep typing the wrong command. good thing i backup a lot.
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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Poindexter Fortran on Saturday, May 16, 2015 17:38:00
    On 05/16/15, Poindexter Fortran said the following...

    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: mark firestone to MRO on Sat May 16 2015 09:45 am

    Oh, and Novell was very, very stupid.

    I was a Novell CNE in a former life; it was a great package, but I felt like hubris killed them. They had a better directory service than old
    AD, but AD was good enough, and a hell of a lot cheaper.

    That was right about the time NT 4.0 became a sorta-worthwhile server product. Novell had them on uptime, but NT was Good Enough. It probably didn't hurt that getting Windows95 to work with Novell servers was never easy, and NT just worked.

    Later on, I got the feeling Ray Noorda and Scott McNealy were more interested in showing Microsoft the finger than competing -- maybe
    they'd given up at that point.

    I think about Novell from time to time. My company now occupies the
    campus that Novell used to have in the late '80s. I remember going to Novell user group meetings there - they had dry cleaning and day care on campus, and seeing high chairs in the cafe threw me for a loop. big
    lawns, walking paths, fountains and a koi pond. I was working in a basement that looked like the IT Crowd's office space at the time...

    I miss the Silicon Valley.

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  • From mark firestone@VERT/QBBS to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:53:00
    --- POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote --

    I was a Novell CNE in a former life; it was a great package, but I felt li hubris killed them. They had a better directory service than old AD, but A good enough, and a hell of a lot cheaper

    That was right about the time NT 4.0 became a sorta-worthwhile server prod Novell had them on uptime, but NT was Good Enough. It probably didn't hur that getting Windows95 to work with Novell servers was never easy, and NT worked

    Yeah, I agree with that. NT4 and Windows 2000 (much more 2000 as had AD) really broke them. It was good enough, and cheaper. Cheaper wins the day around here...


    I think about Novell from time to time. My company now occupies the campus Novell used to have in the late '80s. I remember going to Novell user grou meetings there - they had dry cleaning and day care on campus, and seeing chairs in the cafe threw me for a loop. big lawns, walking paths, fountain
    a koi pond. I was working in a basement that looked like the IT Crowd's of space at the time..

    I bet it doesn't look like that now. I want my office too look more like the IT c. I should set up some obsolete computers in here again...


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  • From Hylian@VERT to mark firestone on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 19:48:26
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: mark firestone to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Tue May 19 2015 12:53 pm

    --- POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote --

    I was a Novell CNE in a former life; it was a great package, but I felt li hubris killed them. They had a better directory service than old AD, but A good enough, and a hell of a lot cheaper

    That was right about the time NT 4.0 became a sorta-worthwhile server prod Novell had them on uptime, but NT was Good Enough. It probably didn't hur that getting Windows95 to work with Novell servers was never easy, and NT worked

    Yeah, I agree with that. NT4 and Windows 2000 (much more 2000 as had AD) really broke them. It was good enough, and cheaper. Cheaper wins the day around here...


    I think about Novell from time to time. My company now occupies the campus Novell used to have in the late '80s. I remember going to Novell user grou meetings there - they had dry cleaning and day care on campus, and seeing chairs in the cafe threw me for a loop. big lawns, walking paths, fountain a koi pond. I was working in a basement that looked like the IT Crowd's of space at the time..

    I bet it doesn't look like that now. I want my office too look more like th IT c. I should set up some obsolete computers in here again...



    Sounds like fun, I need to dig up some old sun sparc stations... :)
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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Hylian on Thursday, May 21, 2015 09:13:00
    Hylian wrote to mark firestone <=-

    a koi pond. I was working in a basement that looked like the IT Crowd's of space at the time..

    I bet it doesn't look like that now. I want my office too look more like th IT c. I should set up some obsolete computers in here again...

    Sounds like fun, I need to dig up some old sun sparc stations... :)

    One of my favorite work computers was a a Sparc 2 with a Weitek
    PowerUp chip, a type 5 keyboard and a 20" paperwhite monitor.



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  • From Hylian@VERT to Poindexter Fortran on Sunday, May 24, 2015 18:33:37
    Re: Re: dos doors
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Hylian on Thu May 21 2015 09:13 am

    Hylian wrote to mark firestone <=-

    a koi pond. I was working in a basement that looked like the IT Crowd's space at the time..

    I bet it doesn't look like that now. I want my office too look more like IT c. I should set up some obsolete computers in here again...

    Sounds like fun, I need to dig up some old sun sparc stations... :)

    One of my favorite work computers was a a Sparc 2 with a Weitek
    PowerUp chip, a type 5 keyboard and a 20" paperwhite monitor.



    ... Powered By Celeron (Tualatin). Engineered for the future.

    woah, now that was a nice setup. I worked for a company doing IT work. in 2010 they were still using a sparc to do phone routing work. They finally switched over to linux and asterisk, but the sparc was still doing the job admirably.

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