• BBS etiquette

    From Ichris@VERT/ETOW to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:37:11
    As you all probably noticed I'm new in BBS world. Can anyone teach me about etiquette that applies here? I want to fit as much as I can. Also any facts, rules and tips would be much appreciated. I'm hungry for knowledge. Also if this is wrong place to ask this kind of questions please guide me to the write place. Thank you.

    Christopher S.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ichris on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 20:32:56
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Ichris to All on Wed Jan 21 2015 11:37:11

    As you all probably noticed I'm new in BBS world. Can anyone teach me about etiquette that applies here? I want to fit as much as I can. Also

    I suppose you can get fairly familiar with things by exploring and observing. A couple tips might be:
    - When replying to a message, quote the part(s) of the message you're replying to. Also, you don't necessarily need to quote the entire message (especially if your reply is small); only quote the part(s) you're most directly replying to
    - When replying to a message, it's preferred that you don't top-post - Write your reply below the quoted message rather than above it.
    - Be respectful and don't be rude or insulting to others. The BBS scene should be a calm place people where people want to interact with others.

    Nightfox

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  • From Jeff Friend@VERT/MORDOR to Ichris on Thursday, January 22, 2015 17:25:22
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Ichris to All on Wed Jan 21 2015 11:37 am

    As you all probably noticed I'm new in BBS world. Can anyone teach me about etiquette that applies here? I want to fit as much as I can. Also any facts, rules and tips would be much appreciated. I'm hungry for knowledge. Also if this is wrong place to ask this kind of questions please guide me to the wri place. Thank you.

    Basically, be yourself.

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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Ichris on Thursday, January 22, 2015 08:50:00
    On 01/21/15, Ichris said the following...

    As you all probably noticed I'm new in BBS world. Can anyone teach me about etiquette that applies here? I want to fit as much as I can. Also any facts, rules and tips would be much appreciated. I'm hungry for knowledge. Also if this is wrong place to ask this kind of questions please guide me to the write place. Thank you.

    Christopher S.

    This is rather old, and some things don't always apply in this day and age,
    but maybe this can help:
    http://textfiles.com/bbs/bbs_mnrs.txt

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Ichris on Thursday, January 22, 2015 08:48:03
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Ichris to All on Wed Jan 21 2015 11:37 am

    As you all probably noticed I'm new in BBS world. Can anyone teach me about etiquette that applies here? I want to fit as much as I can. Also any facts, rules and tips would be much appreciated.

    The new guy buys the first round. :)

    Seriously, BBSing has been around for some time, I'd recommend downloading all the messages you can with whatever offline reader you find convenient, and grow a thick skin. Online interaction often goes awry, and it might help to take some users and their contributions with a grain of salt.

    The objectives here are to interact with people, learn a thing or two, teach the same, and have fun. Not many rules besides those.

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  • From Hustler@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Thursday, January 22, 2015 09:49:29
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Nightfox to Ichris on Wed Jan 21 2015 08:32 pm

    As you all probably noticed I'm new in BBS world. Can anyone teach me about etiquette that applies here? I want to fit as much as I can. Also
    - When replying to a message, quote the part(s) of the message you're replyi to. Also, you don't necessarily need to quote the entire message (especially - When replying to a message, it's preferred that you don't top-post - Write - Be respectful and don't be rude or insulting to others. The BBS scene shou Nightfox

    This is great advice but if the BBS your using has shitty editors you may find all that a little hard to grasb. You learn by doing so just be courteuos to others and "Let it Rip"! Most importantly, HAVE FUN!

    HusTler

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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to Ichris on Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:25:04
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Ichris to All on Wed Jan 21 2015 11:37 am

    As you all probably noticed I'm new in BBS world. Can anyone teach me about etiquette that applies here? I want to fit as much as I can. Also any facts, rules and tips would be much appreciated. I'm hungry for knowledge. Also if this is wrong place to ask this kind of questions please guide me to the wri place. Thank you.

    Christopher S.


    Did you say "Etiquette"? Doesn't that refer to "Gentleman"? Or respectful?
    Well there's none of that in BBS land. My advice is to just let it rip and
    have a good time. There's nothing you can break. lol

    HusTler

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Hustler on Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:35:42
    As you all probably noticed I'm new in BBS world. Can anyone teach me about etiquette that applies here? I want to fit as much as I can.
    Also
    - When replying to a message, quote the part(s) of the message you're replyi to. Also, you don't necessarily need to quote the entire message (especially - When replying to a message, it's preferred that you don't top-post - Write - Be respectful and don't be rude or insulting to others. The BBS scene shou Nightfox

    This is great advice but if the BBS your using has shitty editors you may find all that a little hard to grasb. You learn by doing so just be courteuos to others and "Let it Rip"! Most importantly, HAVE FUN!

    Part of helping with good BBS etiquette is the sysops installing quality message editors.

    Nightfox

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to Nightfox on Thursday, January 22, 2015 16:06:00
    On 01-22-15 12:35, Nightfox wrote to Hustler <=-

    @TZ: 41e0
    As you all probably noticed I'm new in BBS world. Can anyone teach me about etiquette that applies here? I want to fit as much as I can.
    Also
    - When replying to a message, quote the part(s) of the message you're replyi to. Also, you don't necessarily need to quote the entire message (especially - When replying to a message, it's preferred that you don't top-post - Write - Be respectful and don't be rude or insulting to others. The BBS scene shou Nightfox

    This is great advice but if the BBS your using has shitty editors you may find all that a little hard to grasb. You learn by doing so just be courteuos to others and "Let it Rip"! Most importantly, HAVE FUN!

    Part of helping with good BBS etiquette is the sysops installing
    quality message editors.

    LOL... a plug for SlyEdit?? ;)


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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Ichris on Thursday, January 22, 2015 15:50:33
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Ichris to All on Wed Jan 21 2015 11:37 am

    As you all probably noticed I'm new in BBS world. Can anyone teach me about etiquette that applies here? I want to fit as much as I can. Also any
    facts, rules and tips would be much appreciated. I'm hungry for knowledge. Also if this is wrong place to ask this kind of questions please guide me
    to the write place. Thank you.



    whats always worked for me is calling people stupid and pointing our their hyprocrisy and short comings.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, January 22, 2015 15:51:29
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Nightfox to Ichris on Wed Jan 21 2015 08:32 pm

    I suppose you can get fairly familiar with things by exploring and observing. A couple tips might be:
    - When replying to a message, quote the part(s) of the message you're replying to. Also, you don't necessarily need to quote the entire message (especially if your reply is small); only quote the part(s) you're most



    i agree with this. also he should set his msg pointers to the current date so he doesnt necro post. i have something written that does this for new users on my system.

    - Be respectful and don't be rude or insulting to others. The BBS scene should be a calm place people where people want to interact with others.


    never has been like that, never will be.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Bill McGarrity on Thursday, January 22, 2015 20:28:38
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Bill McGarrity to Nightfox on Thu Jan 22 2015 16:06:00

    Part of helping with good BBS etiquette is the sysops installing
    quality message editors.

    LOL... a plug for SlyEdit?? ;)

    Heh, I wasn't trying to plug anything (honest), but I suppose I shouldn't have commented, as that could have been interpreted as such. :P

    Nightfox

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to Nightfox on Thursday, January 22, 2015 23:47:00
    On 01-22-15 20:28, Nightfox wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-


    Part of helping with good BBS etiquette is the sysops installing
    quality message editors.

    LOL... a plug for SlyEdit?? ;)

    Heh, I wasn't trying to plug anything (honest), but I suppose I
    shouldn't have commented, as that could have been interpreted as such.
    :P

    LOL!! No, you should push it.. it's a wonderful addon and so easy to use. I've not had a complaint... :)

    Plug away!!


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  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Ichris on Thursday, January 22, 2015 19:50:03
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Nightfox to Ichris on Wed Jan 21 2015 20:32:56

    As you all probably noticed I'm new in BBS world. Can anyone teach
    me about etiquette that applies here? I want to fit as much as I
    can. Also

    - Be respectful and don't be rude or insulting to others. The BBS scene should be a calm place people where people want to interact with others.

    Along these lines it should be mentioned that whenever 'Mro' gets really diminutive, or straight up assholic, just ignore him. He forgets to take his bipolar meds on a regular basis. He's also 'Jas Hud', because so many people have his messages completely filtered off of their systems.

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Friday, January 23, 2015 06:46:15
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Nightfox to Hustler on Thu Jan 22 2015 12:35 pm


    Part of helping with good BBS etiquette is the sysops installing quality message editors.

    Got any ulterior motives here? :)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Poindexter Fortran on Friday, January 23, 2015 07:31:29
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Nightfox on Fri Jan 23 2015 06:46:15

    Part of helping with good BBS etiquette is the sysops installing
    quality message editors.

    Got any ulterior motives here? :)

    Nah, I didn't at the time I posted that (honest). I was mainly referring to message editors that allow selectively quoting messages and bottom-posting, and there are many message editors that do that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Bill McGarrity on Friday, January 23, 2015 07:32:21
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Bill McGarrity to Nightfox on Thu Jan 22 2015 23:47:00

    LOL... a plug for SlyEdit?? ;)

    Heh, I wasn't trying to plug anything (honest), but I suppose I
    shouldn't have commented, as that could have been interpreted as
    such.

    LOL!! No, you should push it.. it's a wonderful addon and so easy to use. I've not had a complaint... :)

    I'm glad you enjoy using it. :)

    Nightfox

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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Nightfox on Friday, January 23, 2015 12:20:00
    On 01/23/15, Nightfox said the following...

    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Nightfox on Fri Jan 23 2015 06:46:15

    Part of helping with good BBS etiquette is the sysops installing
    quality message editors.

    Got any ulterior motives here? :)

    Nah, I didn't at the time I posted that (honest). I was mainly
    referring to message editors that allow selectively quoting messages and bottom-posting, and there are many message editors that do that.

    I've noticed that a number of messages from Synchronet boards will have weird formatting of the text. Like there will be several blank lines inserted
    within the text. I was told it was the result of one particular editor, but
    I forgot which one it was.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A59 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Friday, January 23, 2015 11:20:49
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Nightfox to Poindexter Fortran on Fri Jan 23 2015 07:31 am

    Nah, I didn't at the time I posted that (honest). I was mainly referring to message editors that allow selectively quoting messages and bottom-posting, and there are many message editors that do that.

    Let this be an object lesson to the original poster regarding the endless ribbing that goes along with BBSing. :)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gryphon on Friday, January 23, 2015 11:59:42
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Nightfox on Fri Jan 23 2015 06:46:15

    Part of helping with good BBS etiquette is the sysops
    installing
    quality message editors.

    Got any ulterior motives here? :)

    Nah, I didn't at the time I posted that (honest). I was mainly referring to message editors that allow selectively quoting
    messages
    and bottom-posting, and there are many message editors that do
    that.

    I've noticed that a number of messages from Synchronet boards will have weird formatting of the text. Like there will be several blank lines inserted within the text. I was told it was the result of one
    particular
    editor, but I forgot which one it was.

    "Several blank lines inserted within the text" sounds a bit vague. For instance, many users separate paragraphs with a blank line, which is
    normal. I've also seen some users put 2 or 3 blank lines between the
    quoted lines and their reply. SlyEdit did have an issue recently where it would add an extra blank line between paragraphs of quote lines, but I have fixed that issue in the latest version.

    Nightfox

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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Nightfox on Friday, January 23, 2015 15:52:00
    On 01/23/15, Nightfox said the following...

    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Nightfox on Fri Jan 23 2015 06:46:15

    Part of helping with good BBS etiquette is the sysops
    installing
    quality message editors.

    Got any ulterior motives here? :)

    Nah, I didn't at the time I posted that (honest). I was mainly referring to message editors that allow selectively quoting
    messages
    and bottom-posting, and there are many message editors that do
    that.

    I've noticed that a number of messages from Synchronet boards will have weird formatting of the text. Like there will be several blank lines inserted within the text. I was told it was the result of one
    particular
    editor, but I forgot which one it was.

    "Several blank lines inserted within the text" sounds a bit vague. For instance, many users separate paragraphs with a blank line, which is normal. I've also seen some users put 2 or 3 blank lines between the quoted lines and their reply. SlyEdit did have an issue recently where
    it would add an extra blank line between paragraphs of quote lines, but
    I have fixed that issue in the latest version.

    No, it's not like that. When I say "several blank lines", I mean that they


    would have gaps in the paragraph, just like I'm doing here. That's not a normal way of typing. So when I see a poster from a Synchronet board who


    posts a message with several blank lines like I'm doing here, I'm assuming
    it's the specific editor they use, as this only happens some times.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A59 (Linux)
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  • From Hylian@VERT to Khelair on Friday, January 23, 2015 15:16:44
    That explains alot about Mro, thanks for letting us know.

    -Denny

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Bill McGarrity on Friday, January 23, 2015 16:49:06
    Hello Bill,

    On 22 Jan 15 23:47, Bill McGarrity wrote to Nightfox:

    LOL!! No, you should push it.. it's a wonderful addon and so easy to
    use. I've not had a complaint... :)

    Plug away!!

    You should beg to get on the mailing list of this new full screen message reader with built in message lister and area changing capabilities he's working
    on! IT'S FRIGGIN AWESOME. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Nightfox on Friday, January 23, 2015 16:50:22
    Hello Nightfox,

    On 23 Jan 15 07:32, Nightfox wrote to Bill McGarrity:

    LOL!! No, you should push it.. it's a wonderful addon and so easy
    to use. I've not had a complaint... :)

    I'm glad you enjoy using it. :)

    Although for superfast reading and replying I use Golded (easy to skip a lot of
    messages and/or mark entire message areas as "read" without even looking at them..

    I enjoy your entire messaging package and appreciate your hard work (and the fact that you listen and consider what I say during constant nagging when I find stuff, lol).

    Love your mods man, keep 'em coming!

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Nightfox on Friday, January 23, 2015 13:05:40
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Nightfox to Bill McGarrity on Thu Jan 22 2015 20:28:38

    Heh, I wasn't trying to plug anything (honest), but I suppose I shouldn't have commented, as that could have been interpreted as such. :P

    Nah, fuggit. Your editor deserves a plug, anyway. It kicks ass. :)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Accession on Friday, January 23, 2015 18:45:40
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Accession to Nightfox on Fri Jan 23 2015 16:50:22

    I enjoy your entire messaging package and appreciate your hard work (and the fact that you listen and consider what I say during constant nagging when I find stuff, lol).

    Love your mods man, keep 'em coming!

    Thanks :) I'm glad you find them useful and enjoy using them.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Khelair on Friday, January 23, 2015 18:45:56
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Khelair to Nightfox on Fri Jan 23 2015 13:05:40

    Nah, fuggit. Your editor deserves a plug, anyway. It kicks ass. :)

    Thanks :)

    Nightfox

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to Accession on Friday, January 23, 2015 23:34:00
    On 01-23-15 16:49, Accession wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya Nick...

    On 22 Jan 15 23:47, Bill McGarrity wrote to Nightfox:

    LOL!! No, you should push it.. it's a wonderful addon and so easy to
    use. I've not had a complaint... :)

    Plug away!!

    You should beg to get on the mailing list of this new full screen
    message reader with built in message lister and area changing
    capabilities he's working on! IT'S FRIGGIN AWESOME. :)

    As much as I'd love to beta it for him I have other irons in the fire here..... one getting ALLFIX to work properly. Between work, life and the board it's crazy. But I sure you can relate.. :)

    Enjoy!!


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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Accession on Saturday, January 24, 2015 14:28:00
    On 01/23/15, Accession said the following...

    Hello Nightfox,

    On 23 Jan 15 07:32, Nightfox wrote to Bill McGarrity:

    LOL!! No, you should push it.. it's a wonderful addon and so easy
    to use. I've not had a complaint... :)

    I'm glad you enjoy using it. :)

    Although for superfast reading and replying I use Golded (easy to skip a lot of

    messages and/or mark entire message areas as "read" without even looking at them..

    I enjoy your entire messaging package and appreciate your hard work (and the fact that you listen and consider what I say during constant nagging when I find stuff, lol).

    Love your mods man, keep 'em coming!
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910

    It looks like this editor also puts blank lines in the middle of the paragraphs.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A59 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Gryphon on Saturday, January 24, 2015 22:55:26
    Hello Gryphon,

    On 24 Jan 15 14:28, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

    Although for superfast reading and replying I use Golded (easy to
    skip a lot of

    messages and/or mark entire message areas as "read" without even
    looking at them..

    I enjoy your entire messaging package and appreciate your hard
    work (and the fact that you listen and consider what I say during
    constant nagging when I find stuff, lol).

    Love your mods man, keep 'em coming!
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910

    It looks like this editor also puts blank lines in the middle of the paragraphs.

    Did you really just say that?

    I manually put a space between my paragraphs, since I don't choose to indent. Thanks for playing, though!

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Accession on Sunday, January 25, 2015 10:22:00
    On 01/25/15, Accession said the following...

    Hello Gryphon,

    On 24 Jan 15 14:28, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

    Although for superfast reading and replying I use Golded (easy to
    skip a lot of

    messages and/or mark entire message areas as "read" without even
    looking at them..

    I enjoy your entire messaging package and appreciate your hard
    work (and the fact that you listen and consider what I say during
    constant nagging when I find stuff, lol).

    Love your mods man, keep 'em coming!
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910

    It looks like this editor also puts blank lines in the middle of the paragraphs.

    Did you really just say that?

    I manually put a space between my paragraphs, since I don't choose to indent. Thanks for playing, though!

    I'm not talking about BETWEEN paragraphs. I'm talking about WITHIN the paragraph. You broke up your sentence line with a CR at column 13, then added another line, then continued your sentence? That's how you normally write
    your messages? Are you not seeing how it's displayed? Does it display differently for Synchronet boards than it does for non-synch boards?

    I haven't kept a tally, but if I had to guess, I see this with about 20% of
    the messages posted in DoveNet. I commented on it when I was still using my YAQN qwknet tosser, and thought it was a problem with how the messages were being tossed into my system. But now that I use Mystic's internal QWNnet tosser, the problem hasn't been fixed.

    At one time, somebody suggested that the problem was the editor that the
    writer was using. I verified it by reading the same distorted message on a Synch board, and it displayed correctly.

    Are there any other NON synch boards reading these QWKnet confs, that are seeing the same thing, or is it just me?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A59 (Linux)
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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Accession on Sunday, January 25, 2015 10:50:00
    On 01/25/15, Accession said the following...

    Hello Gryphon,

    On 24 Jan 15 14:28, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

    Although for superfast reading and replying I use Golded (easy to
    skip a lot of

    messages and/or mark entire message areas as "read" without even
    looking at them..

    I enjoy your entire messaging package and appreciate your hard
    work (and the fact that you listen and consider what I say during
    constant nagging when I find stuff, lol).

    Love your mods man, keep 'em coming!
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910

    It looks like this editor also puts blank lines in the middle of the paragraphs.

    Did you really just say that?

    I manually put a space between my paragraphs, since I don't choose to indent. Thanks for playing, though!

    Regards,
    Nick

    Here's a screenshot of how it looks on my reader. This might be helpful to understand what I'm talking about.

    http://imgur.com/EHJCRLK

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A59 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gryphon on Sunday, January 25, 2015 09:01:08
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Gryphon to Accession on Sun Jan 25 2015 10:22:00

    It looks like this editor also puts blank lines in the middle of
    the paragraphs.

    Did you really just say that?

    I manually put a space between my paragraphs, since I don't choose
    to indent. Thanks for playing, though!

    I'm not talking about BETWEEN paragraphs. I'm talking about WITHIN the paragraph. You broke up your sentence line with a CR at column 13, then added another line, then continued your sentence? That's how you normally write your messages? Are you not seeing how it's displayed? Does it display differently for Synchronet boards than it does for non-synch boards?

    I'm not seeing his message like that - It looks fine to me.

    At one time, somebody suggested that the problem was the editor that the writer was using. I verified it by reading the same distorted message on a Synch board, and it displayed correctly.

    Are there any other NON synch boards reading these QWKnet confs, that are seeing the same thing, or is it just me?

    I run a Synchronet board, and I don't recall seeing anyone's message with blank lines inserted within the paragraphs. So I was wondering if it might have something to do with one of the tools used to import the messages in other BBS software.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion BBS - digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From wkitty42@VERT/CYBERIA to Accession on Sunday, January 25, 2015 11:21:00
    On 01/25/15, Accession said the following...

    Although for superfast reading and replying I use Golded (easy to
    skip a lot of

    messages and/or mark entire message areas as "read" without even
    looking at them..

    here's the blank line he was talking about ;)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A59 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From Accession@VERT/DSORROW to Gryphon on Sunday, January 25, 2015 16:03:00
    On 01/25/15, Gryphon said the following...

    Here's a screenshot of how it looks on my reader. This might be helpful to understand what I'm talking about.

    I saw the same thing you did here. So I'm willing to bet it's Mystic related, as well as it may even be specific to QWK, as I don't see it at all in FTN stuff I looked through. I shot g00 an email and let him know to check here,
    so hopefully you don't have to repeat yourself. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A59 (Linux)
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
  • From ultramagnus_tcv@VERT/SYNCNIX to Hustler on Sunday, January 25, 2015 17:25:29
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Hustler to Nightfox on Thu Jan 22 2015 09:49 am

    This is great advice but if the BBS your using has shitty editors you may fi all that a little hard to grasb. You learn by doing so just be courteuos to others and "Let it Rip"! Most importantly, HAVE FUN!

    One of the things that's a little hard to get used to with BBSs is that unless you manage to call BBSs that use the same BBS software, you're going to find that each one is a little different. Some of them, for instance, will use <Q> to read all new messages. Others will require you enter the <M>essage Bases first and then tap <N> for new messages. And then there's what Hustler refers to where the editors are all a little different. You'll get through it if you lean heavily on the help command!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ My Brand-New BBS (All the cool SysOps run STOCK!)
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to ultramagnus_tcv on Sunday, January 25, 2015 19:59:44
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: ultramagnus_tcv to Hustler on Sun Jan 25 2015 05:25 pm

    to find that each one is a little different. Some of them, for instance, will use <Q> to read all new messages. Others will require you enter the


    what bbs software asks you to hit q to read all new msgs?
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Gryphon on Sunday, January 25, 2015 15:33:32
    Hello Gryphon,

    On 25 Jan 15 10:22, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

    On 01/25/15, Accession said the following...

    Hello Gryphon,

    On 24 Jan 15 14:28, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

    Although for superfast reading and replying I use Golded
    (easy to
    skip a lot of

    messages and/or mark entire message areas as "read" without
    even
    looking at them..

    I enjoy your entire messaging package and appreciate your
    hard
    work (and the fact that you listen and consider what I say
    during
    constant nagging when I find stuff, lol).

    Love your mods man, keep 'em coming!
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910

    It looks like this editor also puts blank lines in the
    middle of the
    paragraphs.

    Did you really just say that?

    I manually put a space between my paragraphs, since I don't
    choose to indent. Thanks for playing, though!

    I'm not talking about BETWEEN paragraphs. I'm talking about WITHIN
    the paragraph. You broke up your sentence line with a CR at column
    13, then added another line, then continued your sentence? That's how
    you normally write your messages? Are you not seeing how it's
    displayed? Does it display differently for Synchronet boards than it
    does for non-synch boards?

    I haven't used the Synchronet editor to post here in quite some time. If you haven't noticed, I'm using Golded. I, for one, have not noticed any crappy line
    wrapping in Golded, Synchronet, or Mystic. So I have no idea what to tell you there.

    I haven't kept a tally, but if I had to guess, I see this with about
    20% of the messages posted in DoveNet. I commented on it when I was
    still using my YAQN qwknet tosser, and thought it was a problem with
    how the messages were being tossed into my system. But now that I use Mystic's internal QWNnet tosser, the problem hasn't been fixed.

    No idea. Maybe Mystic isn't rendering free-flowing text properly, which is what
    Golded, Timed, Msged, and most NNTP clients do these days.

    At one time, somebody suggested that the problem was the editor that
    the writer was using. I verified it by reading the same distorted
    message on a Synch board, and it displayed correctly.

    Are there any other NON synch boards reading these QWKnet confs, that
    are seeing the same thing, or is it just me?

    Who knows how long we'll have to wait for an answer to that one. Hopefully sooner than later though.

    Regards,
    Nick

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (723:1/701)
    þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Gryphon on Sunday, January 25, 2015 15:39:40
    Hello Gryphon,

    On 25 Jan 15 10:50, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

    Here's a screenshot of how it looks on my reader. This might be
    helpful to understand what I'm talking about.

    http://imgur.com/EHJCRLK

    Thanks for the screenshot. Now that I've looked into it a bit I can give you a valid reply. I may have verified my last message to you about the linewrap during free flowing text when a word ends on the 79th column (in Mystic only, it seems).

    I've double checked these messages in Golded, and on my Synchronet system. Both
    places they look fine (not what you took a screenshot of). Both of those softwares seem to handle free flowing text.

    My Mystic system, on the other hand, is doing exactly what you've pointed out. So you may want to let g00r00 know.

    Regards,
    Nick

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (723:1/701)
    þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to wkitty42 on Sunday, January 25, 2015 15:50:22
    Hello wkitty42,

    On 25 Jan 15 11:21, wkitty42 wrote to Accession:

    On 01/25/15, Accession said the following...

    Although for superfast reading and replying I use Golded
    (easy to
    skip a lot of

    messages and/or mark entire message areas as "read" without
    even
    looking at them..

    here's the blank line he was talking about ;)

    Out of the 3 systems I use here regularly, it only seems to do that on Mystic. And it's more than one blank line, it's like 3. Seems to happen when a word in the message hits the 79th column.

    Regards,
    Nick

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (723:1/701)
    þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to ultramagnus_tcv on Sunday, January 25, 2015 19:38:27
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: ultramagnus_tcv to Hustler on Sun Jan 25 2015 17:25:29

    One of the things that's a little hard to get used to with BBSs is that unless you manage to call BBSs that use the same BBS software, you're going to find that each one is a little different. Some of them, for instance, will use <Q> to read all new messages. Others will require you enter the <M>essage Bases first and then tap <N> for new messages. And then there's what Hustler refers to where the editors are all a little different. You'll get through it if you lean heavily on the help command!

    I always liked that each BBS was a bit different and unique (at least, they should be), and that's one of the things that always got me calling around and using a variety of boards. I suppose it could be both good and bad - as you've said, you have to take time to learn each BBS's unique command set.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion BBS - digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Accession on Monday, January 26, 2015 10:18:00
    On 01/25/15, Accession said the following...

    Hello wkitty42,

    On 25 Jan 15 11:21, wkitty42 wrote to Accession:

    On 01/25/15, Accession said the following...

    Although for superfast reading and replying I use Golded
    (easy to
    skip a lot of

    messages and/or mark entire message areas as "read" without
    even
    looking at them..

    here's the blank line he was talking about ;)

    Out of the 3 systems I use here regularly, it only seems to do that on Mystic. And it's more than one blank line, it's like 3. Seems to happen when a word in the message hits the 79th column.

    Agreed. So, is this a problem specific to how Mystic displays the message? I haven't tried reading messages in anything other than the full screen reader. Also, then how come it doesn't do it with FTN echo message? If it's specific to Mystics QWKPOLL utility importing process, then why did the same thing happen when I used my old YAQN tosser? It seems to me that the only
    real constant is Synchronet's QWK export process.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A59 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From wkitty42@VERT/CYBERIA to Accession on Monday, January 26, 2015 13:36:00
    On 01/25/15, Accession said the following...

    Here's a screenshot of how it looks on my reader. This might be help to understand what I'm talking about.

    I saw the same thing you did here. So I'm willing to bet it's Mystic related, as well as it may even be specific to QWK, as I don't see it at all in FTN stuff I looked through. I shot g00 an email and let him know
    to check here, so hopefully you don't have to repeat yourself. :)

    oh wait, what i saw of my post... well... wait, agoranet is not doing QWK any more is it?? i think my post that i saw with those extra lines was in either fidonet or agoranet... (ouch! hey, neuro! stop kicking me!) got a brain
    neuron trying to tell me that it must have been fidonet and written in
    TimED... we'll see what we can find if i can remember to look... but i don't think QWK is involved... especially not if it is in a fidonet area since i can't/don't do agoranet with TimED...

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A59 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Gryphon on Monday, January 26, 2015 16:51:16
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Gryphon to Accession on Sun Jan 25 2015 10:22 am

    I'm not talking about BETWEEN paragraphs. I'm talking about WITHIN the paragraph. You broke up your sentence line with a CR at column 13, then added another line, then continued your sentence? That's how you normally write your messages? Are you not seeing how it's displayed?

    It's certainly possible that he is not seeing what you're seeing.

    Does it
    display differently for Synchronet boards than it does for non-synch
    boards?

    It might. Synchronet v3.16+ has automatic word-wrapping of displayed message text, for example. Not all BBS software (including earlier versions of Synchronet) do that. So it's possible that a line exceeding the width of your terminal might display differently on different BBSes.

    I haven't kept a tally, but if I had to guess, I see this with about 20% of the messages posted in DoveNet. I commented on it when I was still using
    my YAQN qwknet tosser, and thought it was a problem with how the messages were being tossed into my system. But now that I use Mystic's internal QWNnet tosser, the problem hasn't been fixed.

    Likely not related to the QWK "tosser".

    At one time, somebody suggested that the problem was the editor that the writer was using. I verified it by reading the same distorted message on a Synch board, and it displayed correctly.

    It's possible that some editors automatically insert line-breaks which happen to match your terminal's width (and therefore display "correclty") and some editors may not (instead depending on the BBS software to perform word-wrapping
    if that's desired by the reading user).

    Are there any other NON synch boards reading these QWKnet confs, that are seeing the same thing, or is it just me?

    That I couldn't say.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #3:
    Synchronet version 3 is written mostly in C, with some C++, x86 ASM, and Pascal.
    Norco, CA WX: 56.8øF, 88.0% humidity, 9 mph WSW wind, 0.20 inches rain/24hrs

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Gryphon on Monday, January 26, 2015 17:56:32
    Hello Gryphon,

    On 26 Jan 15 10:18, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

    Out of the 3 systems I use here regularly, it only seems to do
    that on Mystic. And it's more than one blank line, it's like 3.
    Seems to happen when a word in the message hits the 79th column.

    Agreed. So, is this a problem specific to how Mystic displays the message? I haven't tried reading messages in anything other than the
    full screen reader. Also, then how come it doesn't do it with FTN echo message? If it's specific to Mystics QWKPOLL utility importing
    process, then why did the same thing happen when I used my old YAQN tosser? It seems to me that the only real constant is Synchronet's
    QWK export process.

    If it were Synchronet's QWK export process, you should see the same results in Synchronet itself (unless it was coded to handle whatever it is) as well as Golded/Msged/Timed. But it doesn't happen in any of those. So it almost has to be something specific to Mystic.

    Were you using YAQN with Mystic? If so, then it may not have had anything to do
    with YAQN. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130910
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (723:1/701)
    þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Mro on Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:12:50
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Mro to ultramagnus_tcv on Sun Jan 25 2015 07:59 pm

    what bbs software asks you to hit q to read all new msgs?

    I used to map "1337 Wares listing" to the G key. :)

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Hustler@VERT/CBLISS to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 27, 2015 15:00:54
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Nightfox to Bill McGarrity on Thu Jan 22 2015 20:28:38

    Part of helping with good BBS etiquette is the sysops installing
    quality message editors.

    Unfortunatly most SyOps don't install good editors but it's a good point.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ chaotic bliss - chaoticbliss.darktech.org
  • From Hustler@VERT/CBLISS to Gryphon on Tuesday, January 27, 2015 15:05:28
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Gryphon to Nightfox on Fri Jan 23 2015 15:52:00

    On 01/23/15, Nightfox said the following...

    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Nightfox on Fri Jan 23 2015 06:46:1
    5
    "Several blank lines inserted within the text" sounds a bit vague. For
    No, it's not like that. When I say "several blank lines", I mean that they


    would have gaps in the paragraph, just like I'm doing here. That's not a normal way of typing. So when I see a poster from a Synchronet board who


    posts a message with several blank lines like I'm doing here, I'm assuming it's the specific editor they use, as this only happens some times.


    That's just an emulation problem.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ chaotic bliss - chaoticbliss.darktech.org
  • From Hustler@VERT/CBLISS to Khelair on Tuesday, January 27, 2015 15:06:40
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Khelair to Nightfox on Fri Jan 23 2015 13:05:40

    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Nightfox to Bill McGarrity on Thu Jan 22 2015 20:28:38

    Heh, I wasn't trying to plug anything (honest), but I suppose I shouldn
    't
    have commented, as that could have been interpreted as such. :P

    Nah, fuggit. Your editor deserves a plug, anyway. It kicks ass. :)


    I second that motion! Great Editor!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ chaotic bliss - chaoticbliss.darktech.org
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Poindexter Fortran on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 17:35:41
    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Tue Jan 27 2015 10:12 am

    Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Mro to ultramagnus_tcv on Sun Jan 25 2015 07:59 pm

    what bbs software asks you to hit q to read all new msgs?

    I used to map "1337 Wares listing" to the G key. :)


    i had a lot of users that i encouraged to use banana com.
    whats funny about that is ansi music plays through it, but a long song chokes it.

    so when i wanted to get rid of a bad users i would force the song to them and then hang up on them. it would lock up their computer and they'd have to reboot. good times
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Hustler on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 17:38:35
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Hustler to Nightfox on Tue Jan 27 2015 03:00 pm

    Unfortunatly most SyOps don't install good editors but it's a good point.


    most bbses i've been on have adequate msg editors. i prefer quikedit.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Hustler on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 17:38:56
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Hustler to Gryphon on Tue Jan 27 2015 03:05 pm


    posts a message with several blank lines like I'm doing here, I'm assuming it's the specific editor they use, as this only happens some times.


    That's just an emulation problem.


    it has to do with how mystic imports msgs.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Mro on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 20:52:00
    On 01/28/15, Mro said the following...

    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Hustler to Gryphon on Tue Jan 27 2015 03:05 pm


    posts a message with several blank lines like I'm doing here, I'm assuming it's the specific editor they use, as this only happens som times.


    That's just an emulation problem.


    it has to do with how mystic imports msgs.

    No. It has to do with how Mystic displays messages. Messages are imported just fine.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A60 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mro on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 22:13:31
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Mro to Hustler on Wed Jan 28 2015 17:38:35

    most bbses i've been on have adequate msg editors. i prefer quikedit.

    I've tried QuikEdit. I think it's decent, although I don't particularly like its formatting of quote lines - it tends to cut off the ends of quote lines as quote characters are added instead of wrapping the quote lines, so some of the quote text ends up getting lost.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion BBS - digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Gryphon on Thursday, January 29, 2015 23:03:53
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Gryphon to Mro on Wed Jan 28 2015 08:52 pm

    it has to do with how mystic imports msgs.

    No. It has to do with how Mystic displays messages. Messages are imported just fine.


    so when the post is in mystic's msg base,it is not changed, it just displays them with these issues?
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, January 29, 2015 23:14:47
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Wed Jan 28 2015 10:13 pm

    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Mro to Hustler on Wed Jan 28 2015 17:38:35

    most bbses i've been on have adequate msg editors. i prefer quikedit.

    I've tried QuikEdit. I think it's decent, although I don't particularly like its formatting of quote lines - it tends to cut off the ends of quote lines as quote characters are added instead of wrapping the quote lines, so some of the quote text ends up getting lost.



    i didnt notice that, but i always thought quoting was so you get the gist of what the person is replying too. you can always go back in the thread and re-read the original post.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mro on Friday, January 30, 2015 07:33:42
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Mro to Nightfox on Thu Jan 29 2015 23:14:47

    I've tried QuikEdit. I think it's decent, although I don't
    particularly like its formatting of quote lines - it tends to cut off
    the ends of quote lines as quote characters are added instead of
    wrapping the quote lines, so some of the quote text ends up getting
    lost.

    i didnt notice that, but i always thought quoting was so you get the gist of what the person is replying too. you can always go back in the thread and re-read the original post.

    That's true, but as long as you're quoting part of the message, I think it's nice to be able to have the complete quote.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion BBS - digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Hustler on Friday, January 30, 2015 09:15:44
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Hustler to Nightfox on Tue Jan 27 2015 03:00 pm

    Unfortunatly most SyOps don't install good editors but it's a good point.

    Send 5 bucks to Nightfox and he'll send you a copy of SlyEdit and a "Good BBS Etiquette" ribbon. You can send it to me and I'll pass it along. :)

    In all seriousness, SlyEdit rocks. It's configurable, got some great features, can emulate two popular editors, and it's written in Javascript, which runs a LOT faster on old machines than shelling out to DOS to run an editor. Thanks!



    ---
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Mro on Friday, January 30, 2015 12:59:00
    On 01/30/15, Mro said the following...

    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Gryphon to Mro on Wed Jan 28 2015 08:52 pm

    it has to do with how mystic imports msgs.

    No. It has to do with how Mystic displays messages. Messages are impo just fine.


    so when the post is in mystic's msg base,it is not changed, it just displays them with these issues?

    Correct. Because I use JAM message bases with Mystic, I can use 3rd party utilities to read the messages independantly of Mystic. The text is
    formatted correctly using those 3rd party utilities.

    But the one factor remains; no matter whether it's a Mystic issue or not, the only messages that get displayed incorrectly all come from Synchronet boards, and they only occur in the Dovenet conferences. I've never seen this happen with Syncronet boards in the FTN echos.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A60 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Poindexter Fortran on Friday, January 30, 2015 12:54:58
    Unfortunatly most SyOps don't install good editors but it's a good point.

    In all seriousness, SlyEdit rocks. It's configurable, got some great features, can emulate two popular editors, and it's written in Javascript, which runs a LOT faster on old machines than shelling out to DOS to run an editor. Thanks!

    I'm glad people find SlyEdit useful. As I started posting more messages on my BBS, the slowness due to running a DOS-based editor was enough to motivate me to look into creating SlyEdit. I like that with JavaScript, it will run on
    any platform where Synchronet runs, which is also one of its big advantages.
    I have occasionally considered making an OS-native version of SlyEdit (in
    C++), which would be compatible with any BBS package; however, it would most likely lack a few features that SlyEdit currently has due to the benefit of being able to access Synchronet's message base information via JavaScript.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion BBS - digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to Nightfox on Sunday, February 22, 2015 01:00:57
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Nightfox to Bill McGarrity on Fri Jan 23 2015 07:32 am

    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Bill McGarrity to Nightfox on Thu Jan 22 2015 23:47:00

    LOL... a plug for SlyEdit?? ;)

    Heh, I wasn't trying to plug anything (honest), but I suppose I
    shouldn't have commented, as that could have been interpreted as
    such.

    LOL!! No, you should push it.. it's a wonderful addon and so easy to
    use. I've not had a complaint... :)

    I'm glad you enjoy using it. :)

    heh. I've even had new users register going, "Dude, I'm so glad you have SlyEdit, you rock!" So, kudos, sir, kudos!

    Psi-Jack

    ---
    [Psi-Jack -//- Decker]
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  • From Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to Accession on Sunday, February 22, 2015 01:03:01
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Accession to Bill McGarrity on Fri Jan 23 2015 04:49 pm

    Hello Bill,

    On 22 Jan 15 23:47, Bill McGarrity wrote to Nightfox:

    LOL!! No, you should push it.. it's a wonderful addon and so easy to
    use. I've not had a complaint... :)

    Plug away!!

    You should beg to get on the mailing list of this new full screen message reader with built in message lister and area changing capabilities he's working on! IT'S FRIGGIN AWESOME. :)

    Indeed it is awesome, and only getting better!

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Psi-Jack on Sunday, February 22, 2015 10:37:50
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Psi-Jack to Nightfox on Sun Feb 22 2015 01:00 am


    heh. I've even had new users register going, "Dude, I'm so glad you have SlyEdit, you rock!" So, kudos, sir, kudos!


    never in 23 years have i had a user register and compliment the editor that
    was installed on the bbs.
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  • From Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to Mro on Sunday, February 22, 2015 12:15:49
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Mro to Psi-Jack on Sun Feb 22 2015 10:37 am

    heh. I've even had new users register going, "Dude, I'm so glad you
    have SlyEdit, you rock!" So, kudos, sir, kudos!

    never in 23 years have i had a user register and compliment the editor that was installed on the bbs.

    heh. I have many times. Even back in the earlier days. Course, back then, almost all the local BBSs were running TAG and didn't even have a fullscreen editor, so people were plain amazed by the idea. :)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Psi-Jack on Sunday, February 22, 2015 10:59:08
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Psi-Jack to Mro on Sun Feb 22 2015 12:15:49

    heh. I have many times. Even back in the earlier days. Course, back then, almost all the local BBSs were running TAG and didn't even have a fullscreen editor, so people were plain amazed by the idea. :)

    My local BBSes back in the day used a variety of software. I used RemoteAccess for my BBS back then, and now that I use Synchronet, I really like being able to configure multiple external message editors. RemoteAccess (and probably others too) allowed only one external editor to be set up with the BBS software.

    Nightfox

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  • From Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to Nightfox on Sunday, February 22, 2015 20:35:15
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Nightfox to Psi-Jack on Sun Feb 22 2015 10:59 am

    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Psi-Jack to Mro on Sun Feb 22 2015 12:15:49

    heh. I have many times. Even back in the earlier days. Course, back
    then, almost all the local BBSs were running TAG and didn't even
    have a fullscreen editor, so people were plain amazed by the idea.
    :)

    My local BBSes back in the day used a variety of software. I used RemoteAccess for my BBS back then, and now that I use Synchronet, I really like being able to configure multiple external message editors. RemoteAccess (and probably others too) allowed only one external editor to be set up with the BBS software.

    Heh, too funny. When I first started my BBS, I used Renegade. In the local area that only had TAG BBSs, it was fresh, new and shiny, and got LOTS of attention because of it.. I later went to Telegard after the total revamp of it, 3 I believe it was? Eventually I went to Remote Access after spending about a year working on it all, making custom things since I was well into Pascal. RA was, by no means, great, but for it's standard definitions, made it worthwhile to hack around everything, making a result that was just beautiful in the end. I liked RA for the standard message based formats, something Renegade didn't have, and Telegard had limits to.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Psi-Jack on Sunday, February 22, 2015 20:30:53
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Psi-Jack to Nightfox on Sun Feb 22 2015 20:35:15

    Heh, too funny. When I first started my BBS, I used Renegade. In the local area that only had TAG BBSs, it was fresh, new and shiny, and got LOTS of attention because of it.. I later went to Telegard after the total revamp of it, 3 I believe it was? Eventually I went to Remote Access after spending about a year working on it all, making custom things since I was well into Pascal. RA was, by no means, great, but for it's standard definitions, made it worthwhile to hack around everything, making a result that was just beautiful in the end. I liked RA for the standard message based formats, something Renegade didn't have, and Telegard had limits to.

    It seemed to me that RemoteAccess could be customized fairly well with some clever tricks.. I seem to remember being able to edit strings in the language file to load an ANSI file rather than simply display text.. I think I had used that to display a fancy username prompt in an ANSI file. I liked that RemoteAccess had lots of mods & add-on doors available for it. I once read that RemoteAccess had the most add-ons available due to its popularity.

    Nightfox

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  • From Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to Nightfox on Monday, February 23, 2015 00:38:19
    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Nightfox to Psi-Jack on Sun Feb 22 2015 08:30 pm

    It seemed to me that RemoteAccess could be customized fairly well with some clever tricks.. I seem to remember being able to edit strings in the language file to load an ANSI file rather than simply display text.. I think I had used that to display a fancy username prompt in an ANSI file. I liked that RemoteAccess had lots of mods & add-on doors available for it. I once read that RemoteAccess had the most add-ons available due to its popularity.

    Oh yeah, it definitely could be customized better than some BBSs, for example TAG. :) Telegard 3, you could make a language string run a script directly to be able to do almost anything within the confines of the TG scripting language. RA did have the most add-ons, because they made it possible to do so by providing the database headers needed to develop for it, and because it was popular due to that factor. Because of that, even people like me developed for it. heh heh.

    RA was a solid BBS platform no doubt about it.

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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Nightfox on Monday, February 23, 2015 08:12:00
    On 02/23/15, Nightfox said the following...

    Re: Re: BBS etiquette
    By: Psi-Jack to Nightfox on Sun Feb 22 2015 20:35:15

    Heh, too funny. When I first started my BBS, I used Renegade. In the area that only had TAG BBSs, it was fresh, new and shiny, and got LOT attention because of it.. I later went to Telegard after the total re of it, 3 I believe it was? Eventually I went to Remote Access after spending about a year working on it all, making custom things since I well into Pascal. RA was, by no means, great, but for it's standard definitions, made it worthwhile to hack around everything, making a r that was just beautiful in the end. I liked RA for the standard messa based formats, something Renegade didn't have, and Telegard had limit

    It seemed to me that RemoteAccess could be customized fairly well with some clever tricks.. I seem to remember being able to edit strings in
    the language file to load an ANSI file rather than simply display text..
    I think I had used that to display a fancy username prompt in an ANSI file. I liked that RemoteAccess had lots of mods & add-on doors
    available for it. I once read that RemoteAccess had the most add-ons available due to its popularity.

    Yes, RA was very popular. It's one of the few software packages that I actually purchased. I ran RA with FD in the late 90's. I was even a NC in RANet at one time. As I recall, even the OpenDoors libraries patterned the local user status line off of the RA format.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gryphon on Monday, February 23, 2015 12:41:40
    Yes, RA was very popular. It's one of the few software packages that I actually purchased. I ran RA with FD in the late 90's. I was even a NC
    in
    RANet at one time. As I recall, even the OpenDoors libraries patterned
    the
    local user status line off of the RA format.

    I bought a RA license as well (just the basic 2-node license, as I only had
    one phone line at the time). I liked the look of RA and its formatting, too.

    When I decided to start a BBS again, in 2007, I initially had worked on
    setting up EleBBS, since it's a more modern clone of RemoteAccess. I ran into an issue with EleBBS though where it wasn't running my configured events as I expected it to. Perhaps it simply works differently in that area than RemoteAccess did, but I worried it might be a bug with EleBBS. I decided to look at other BBS packages and ended up going with Synchronet, which I've been fairly happy with.

    Nightfox

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