I was just thinking about computers in the 80s and early 90s, and back then, it was more exciting to upgrade computers because many new computer innovations were more significant back then.
When I got my first ever computer in 1989, it was a Tandy TX1000 with 640K or RAM and a single 1.44MB Floppy Drive. NO hard drive at all. So everything was done on floppy disk, booting, running programs, EVERYTHING.
One day, I paid about $500 for an upgrade to 768K of RAM and a second 1.44MB Floppy Drive. THis made things alot easier as in I could now boot on A drive and run DOS based programs on the B drive. Though, I learned to put the config.sys and autoexec.bat onto A drive along with the boot files so I could run small DOS programs on A drive.
I used to boot from A drive, run Telemate
on A drive and download everything to B drive. WOW! That was amazing, I could do alot more just because of the B drive.
Then I upgraded to a 386DX-33 with 4MB RAM and 120MB HDD. WOW!!! What a fantastic upgrade for $3000. Then upgrades to 486DX-33, 486DX4-100, Pentium 133, Pentium 233MMX, Pentium 2-266, Pentium 3-450 over the years.
I'd have to call out SSDs as game-changing. Used to seem like an extravagence, now I don't think I'd ever buy a system without one.
I was just thinking about computers in the 80s and early 90s, and back then, it was more exciting to upgrade computers because many new
computer innovations were more significant back then. Things like
adding a mouse (for a PC), upgrading from monochrome to color graphics
(or improved graphics, such as CGA to EGA and then VGA), adding a sound card (for a PC), and upgrading from a 20MHz system to one that's 40MHz
(or more) were all very significant upgrades, and it was exciting to see the difference after upgrading. These days, though, PC upgrades all
seem fairly incremental. For many everyday tasks, it's hard to notice
the differences after an upgrade. Upgrading the processor from 3.5GHz to 4.0GHz, for instance, or upgrading a video card, isn't going to make a significant or noticeable difference except for the most demanding tasks.
What new and interesting computer technology has come out recently or is set to come out soon? A couple things I can think of are 3D printers
and newer devices for 3D video (such as 3D televisions & monitors and
the associated glasses & accessories to support them). To be fair, though, I saw some 3D glasses for PC gaming about 20 years ago (I saw
some being demoed for the game Descent around that time), so 3D video isn't exactly new. 3D printing has already started to change how people make almost anything, from tools to toys to parts for fixing things. Besides those, I can't think of many significant computer upgrades these days.
Nightfox wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-
That's true, I didn't think about SSDs when I wrote my original post.
I put an SSD in my PC a couple years ago, and it made quite a
difference for bootup time. It seems it made the most difference for bootup though; it seems that starting programs isn't much faster with
the SSD.
I think we'll see a trend towards smaller, wareable tech. I've seenvideos
of upcoming tech like wristbands that will display a touchscreen ontoyour
arm. I think that in 50-100 years, we'll have implants that will giveus
an internal heads-up display, with no need for any external device. I'ma
big fan of Peter F Hamilton's work, and unobtrusive, invisible implants feature big in his stories.
I have a couple of systems at work with Hybrid SATA drives -- a SATA drive with a gigabytes sized cache (4 to 16, depending on the drive) slapped on the side. Starts up like a SATA, then starts filling the cache with loaded programs. After 10 minutes or so, everything you normally do is runningout
of the cache. Cheap, and significant bang for your buck.
i7-3770k. I'm not sure when I'll upgrade next, as my current PC still works great for what I use it for.
I was never an AMD fan though. Probably because one of my friends burnt out 2 of his AMDs with his overclocking. And that is something I could never understand, overclocking.. If you want the extra speed, why not just pay the extra and have NO chance of destroying a CPU because of overheating it?
products. I think AMD makes decent products - I liked their CPUs mainly because they were less expensive than Intel's CPUs. There were a few times when AMD was ahead of Intel too - Around 2000 or 2001, I heard AMD's Athlon generally performed better than Intel's CPUs; AMD created the x86-64
i used amd products for a long time. then i got a comparable intel processor and noticed a huge difference. since then i've been intel only. intel is just better sometimes. maybe it's because certain programs take advantage of intel processors better.
I think one thing AMD has ahead of Intel right now is better
integrated graphics, but that's because AMD acquired ATI several years ago. Otherwise, the reviews I've seen say AMD's current processors don't perform as fast as Intel's.
Seems like (according to an earlier thread) that we're all seeing diminishing returns with processor speed. A really cheap mini-ATX motherboard with an AMD multi-core processor, onboard ATI graphics and performance on par with an i5 would rock.
Does AMD market and brand their own motherboards? Or would that be toomuch
like competing with your customers?
I'd have to call out SSDs as game-changing. Used to seem like an extravagenc now I don't think I'd ever buy a system without one.
I'd have to call out SSDs as game-changing. Used to seem like an
extravagenc now I don't think I'd ever buy a system without one.
45,000+ systems, and failures from drive crashes are a thing of the past. Only had a couple of SSD failures since.
> Not just from a performance standpoint -- at work, my department support
45,000+ systems, and failures from drive crashes are a thing of the past. Only had a couple of SSD failures since.
SSDs are still a relatively new technology. I've heard SSDs have a limited number of times they can write to the memory. It's only a matter of time before one stops being able to write.
Nightfox
Not just from a performance standpoint -- at work, my department supports 45,000+ systems, and failures from drive crashes are a thing of the past. Only had a couple of SSD failures since.
well dont you only have x amount of writes on an SSD before those sectors becoming bad?
Re: Computer technology
By: Mro to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jan 03 2015 03:18 pm
well dont you only have x amount of writes on an SSD before those sec becoming bad?
Yes, they don't last forever - nor do rotating hard drives.
well dont you only have x amount of writes on an SSD before those
sectors becoming bad?
Yes, they don't last forever - nor do rotating hard drives.
SSDs are still a relatively new technology. I've heard SSDs have a limited number of times they can write to the memory. It's only a matter of time before one stops being able to write.
That is true. The write numbers are considerably high and seem to be quite adequate for desktop or laptop workstations. Servers are a different matter, bu there's a whole different class of SSD for Enterprise that is much more expensive.
That is true. The write numbers are considerably high and seem to be quite adequate for desktop or laptop workstations. Servers are a different matter, bu there's a whole different class of SSD for Enterprise that is much more expensive.
Re: Computer technology
By: Mro to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jan 03 2015 03:18 pm
well dont you only have x amount of writes on an SSD before those sectors becoming bad?
Yes, they don't last forever - nor do rotating hard drives.
I wonder what happens when an SSD fails though. Once an SSD can no longer write to its memory, does the OS suddenly fail due to not being able to write, or are there some advance warning signs? With a rotating hard
drive, at least you'll probably notice some failures here and there and can back up your data before it totally fails.
...And they're probably RAIDed and hot-swappable.
i'd just buy the cheaper harddrives and use raid
but what if there's blocks of important data? i'm pretty sure that's lost.
so they are more expensive, are smaller, and probably dont last as long as regular old harddrives?
rotatingI wonder what happens when an SSD fails though. Once an SSD can no longer write to its memory, does the OS suddenly fail due to not being able to write, or are there some advance warning signs? With a
therehard drive, at least you'll probably notice some failures here and
lost.and can back up your data before it totally fails.
i think what it does is "automatically" stop using those blocks that
have reached the end of their finite writes.
but what if there's blocks of important data? i'm pretty sure that's
but what if there's blocks of important data? i'm pretty sure that's lost.
I think as the HDD sees that a block may be becomming faulty or near it's write life, it would move the data in that sector to a new sector and then mark that one as bad.
well dont you only have x amount of writes on an SSD before those sec becoming bad?
Yes, they don't last forever - nor do rotating hard drives.
Re: Computer technology
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Sun Jan 04 2015 08:57:23
well dont you only have x amount of writes on an SSD before those
sectors becoming bad?
Yes, they don't last forever - nor do rotating hard drives.
I wonder what happens when an SSD fails though. Once an SSD can no longer write to its memory, does the OS suddenly fail due to not being able to write, or are there some advance warning signs? With a rotating hard
drive, at least you'll probably notice some failures here and there and can back up your data before it totally fails.
Re: Computer technology
By: Nightfox to Poindexter Fortran on Sun Jan 04 2015 01:25 pm
I wonder what happens when an SSD fails though. Once an SSD can no longer write to its memory, does the OS suddenly fail due to not being able to write, or are there some advance warning signs? With a rotating hard drive, at least you'll probably notice some failures here and there and can back up your data before it totally fails.
i think what it does is "automatically" stop using those blocks that
have reached the end of their finite writes.
but what if there's blocks of important data? i'm pretty sure that's lost.
The drive will get slower (as retries for writes increase) and eventually sectors will be marked bad and avoided by the SATA controller. It's really no different from bad sectors on your hard disk (which you likely have, even brand news drives have them, and the increase over time).
Here's a myth-busting article on SSDs focusing on the write-life-cycle (endurance) issue:
http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html
The types of drives in question are SSDs, not HDDs.
No, the blocks can still be read; only the number of writes are limited. If system is trying to *write* to a block, it's going to be an unallocated/used block with no important data anyway.
Re: Computer technology
By: Nightfox to Poindexter Fortran on Sun Jan 04 2015 01:25 pm
Re: Computer technology
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Sun Jan 04 2015 08:57:23
well dont you only have x amount of writes on an SSD before those
sectors becoming bad?
Yes, they don't last forever - nor do rotating hard drives.
I wonder what happens when an SSD fails though. Once an SSD can no longer write to its memory, does the OS suddenly fail due to not being able to write, or are there some advance warning signs? With a rotating hard drive, at least you'll probably notice some failures here and there and can back up your data before it totally fails.
The drive will get slower (as retries for writes increase) and eventually sectors will be marked bad and avoided by the SATA controller. It's
really no different from bad sectors on your hard disk (which you likely have, even brand news drives have them, and the increase over time).
Here's a myth-busting article on SSDs focusing on the write-life-cycle (endurance) issue:
http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html
limited.No, the blocks can still be read; only the number of writes are
If system is trying to *write* to a block, it's going to be an unallocated/used block with no important data anyway.
I wonder why there is a limit on the number of writes. Is this a design flaw? Is this by design to ensure replacements are required? I doubt that, but maybe....
Apparently, it has to do with storage integrity getting worse over time: http://bit.ly/1zRNuBx
I suppose that could be considered a "design flaw", but things rarely last forever. Traditional rotating hard drives have their limitations too.
Re: Computer technology
By: Digital Man to Mro on Mon Jan 05 2015 04:54 pm
No, the blocks can still be read; only the number of writes are limited. If system is trying to *write* to a block, it's going to be an unallocated/used block with no important data anyway.
I wonder why there is a limit on the number of writes. Is this a design flaw? Is this by design to ensure replacements are required? I doubt that, but maybe....
Re: Computer technology
By: Digital Man to Mro on Mon Jan 05 2015 04:54 pm
No, the blocks can still be read; only the number of writes are limited. If system is trying to *write* to a block, it's going to be an unallocated/used block with no important data anyway.
I wonder why there is a limit on the number of writes. Is this a design flaw? Is this by design to ensure replacements are required? I doubt that, but maybe....
It's just the nature of Flash memory. Your SD cards and thumb/jump drives ha the same limitation.
Re: Computer technology
By: Poindexter Fortran to Nightfox on Mon Dec 29 2014 06:53 am
I'd have to call out SSDs as game-changing. Used to seem like an extravag now I don't think I'd ever buy a system without one.
Yes, I'd agree that was one of the biggest visible changes in recent memory. Since not every system necessarily comes with an SSD, you can notice the difference straight away.
So true, back in the day upgrades were felt immiedietly. Especially back in the day when I had TRS-80 Color Computers from the Rat Shack. These days, I
It also cost an arm and a leg to upgrade. Even if you built the system yours you had to shell out 800-1000 bucks for something decent which we be outdate in a year or two at best.
It also cost an arm and a leg to upgrade. Even if you built the system yoAnd now it is outdated in 3 to 6 months... At least it is cheaper. But if yo upgrade twice a year, which I can't see anyone doing, then the costs are the same.
Jeff in Australia.
Does that mean there's a ton of Legacy users around or it's just me?
Re: Computer technology
By: Hustler to Jeff Friend on Wed Jan 14 2015 12:10 pm
Does that mean there's a ton of Legacy users around or it's just me?
I am a legacy user too. I have old PCs lying around.. Back as far as a 286.
Re: Computer technology
By: Hustler to Jeff Friend on Wed Jan 14 2015 12:10 pm
Does that mean there's a ton of Legacy users around or it's just me?
I am a legacy user too. I have old PCs lying around.. Back as far as a 286.
Jeff
The newest device I've ever owned was an Android Smart Phone and I hatedLOL
it. I'll take a real keyboard and mouse anyday! Long Live Legacy Users!
Re: Computer technology
By: Hustler to Jeff Friend on Wed Jan 14 2015 12:10 pm
Does that mean there's a ton of Legacy users around or it's just me?
I am a legacy user too. I have old PCs lying around.. Back as far as a 286.
are fairly rare, and I'm not sure if anyone makes one anymore. I had one for a little while - an LG Optimus Slider, where the screen slid sideways
to reveal the keyboard underneath. I liked it, but I eventually upgraded
to a faster phone, and at the time I don't think there were any newer Android phones with a physical keyboard. I personally like having a real keyboard too.
i toss that shit in the garbage!When I move house, I usually wish I did that too. But there are times I just like to put on the old games etc. But now I have Dosbox, I can probably do away with the old hardware, I can probably do away with it..
The newest device I've ever owned was an Android Smart Phone and I hatepersonally like having a real keyboard too.
Nightfox
i toss that shit in the garbage!
just like to put on the old games etc. But now I have Dosbox, I can probably do away with the old hardware, I can probably do away with it..
My kids all use smart phones. I send them text msgs via email. I don'ttype
think they even know how to use email. They just know how to hit send and reply. My son is pretty good with the touch screen messaging. I rarely see any typos from him. When I bought the android phone he told me to get a phone with a pop out keyboard. Boy was he right. I can't do that touch
stuff for beans. Can't teach an old dog new tricks I guess. lol
i toss that shit in the garbage!
Well toss that "shit" in my garbage!
Re: Computer technology
By: Jeff Friend to Mro on Fri Jan 16 2015 10:41 am
just like to put on the old games etc. But now I have Dosbox, I can probably do away with the old hardware, I can probably do away with it.
I have an old 4:3 laptop running Linux, and have DOSBOX running on it. When go fullscreen on DOSBOX, it looks and feels like I'm running DOS natively -- plus I can use old commm apps like Telix to telnet out to BBSes.
I quickly renamed my car "The Dumpster".
Re: Computer technology
By: Misfit to ultramagnus_tcv on Mon Jan 12 2015 17:07:02
So true, back in the day upgrades were felt immiedietly. Especially back the day when I had TRS-80 Color Computers from the Rat Shack. These days
It also cost an arm and a leg to upgrade. Even if you built the system yours you had to shell out 800-1000 bucks for something decent which we be outdate in a year or two at best.
HusTler
So true. I remember getting my first 5.25 disk drive for the Coco. Of ours but where is the fun when everything JUST WORKS... :-)
Exactly! Getting things to "work" was the best part. Being on the phone with the BBS guys till 5:00am asking questions. If you ask a question today your "stupid".It was never like that because there wasn't many of us around. Once plug and play came out it all became easy and nothing needed to be configure Well for Windows anyway.
And as a person who is now on the end of the phone when people call support, I agree.. But most of the questions are stupid anyway.. Like "How do I change my password"..
The rest of the time I get a script reader who asks me if I've turned it off
Re: Computer technology
By: Misfit to Hustler on Sat Jan 17 2015 16:47:39
So true. I remember getting my first 5.25 disk drive for the Coco. Of o but where is the fun when everything JUST WORKS... :-)
Exactly! Getting things to "work" was the best part. Being on the phone with the BBS guys till 5:00am asking questions. If you ask a question today your "stupid".It was never like that because there wasn't many of us around. Once plug and play came out it all became easy and nothing needed to be configure Well for Windows anyway.
HusTler
Hahaha.. Sounds like they have watched "The IT Crowd" a few times too many..
Hey, don't knock what works. Every time my wife complains about the wireless/cable TV/Apple TV/Wii/anything not working, I ask her to restart it After eye-rolling ensues, I ask her if it worked. It usually did.
Or, if I get an email entitled "Meatloaf", I know I am getting a free meal for fixing her computer :) LOVE meatloaf.
All my devices are iOS, so I guess I'm somewhat of an an Apple snob. :-)
Cheers,
Misfit
Re: Computer technology
By: Hustler to Misfit on Sun Jan 18 2015 01:13 pm
Exactly! Getting things to "work" was the best part. Being on the phone w the BBS guys till 5:00am asking questions. If you ask a question today yo "stupid".It was never like that because there wasn't many of us around. O plug and play came out it all became easy and nothing needed to be config Well for Windows anyway.
And as a person who is now on the end of the phone when people call support, agree.. But most of the questions are stupid anyway.. Like "How do I change password"..
Jeff
Re: Computer technology
By: Jeff Friend to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Jan 20 2015 07:14 am
Hahaha.. Sounds like they have watched "The IT Crowd" a few times too many..
Hey, don't knock what works. Every time my wife complains about the wireless/cable TV/Apple TV/Wii/anything not working, I ask her to restart it. After eye-rolling ensues, I ask her if it worked. It usually did.
I did quite a bit of work for my sister and her family when they first start getting online -- helped them wire their house, set up their first wireless network, set up sharing, and did some telephone wiring. All in all, a couple hours work turned into 3 great bottles of whisky at Christmastime. I with my other clients at the time were as generous!
I named all of my servers that year after whiskys. Stopped when I got sick o typing "telnet bunnahabhain" to get to my mail server. :)
we broke it. I didn't last 8 months doing support. I would "flip" on them an yell words of profanity. LOL
Hey, don't knock what works. Every time my wife complains about the wireless/cable TV/Apple TV/Wii/anything not working, I ask her to restart it. After eye-rolling ensues, I ask her if it worked. It usually did.
whats really bad is we as consumers are okay with power cycling some of our devices when we really should not have to do that to right whats wrong.
Hey, don't knock what works. Every time my wife complains about the wireless/cable TV/Apple TV/Wii/anything not working, I ask her to restart it. After eye-rolling ensues, I ask her if it worked. It usually did.
whats really bad is we as consumers are okay with power cycling some of our devices when we really should not have to do that to right whats wrong.
I name all my PCs and my server (a WinXP Virtual Machine) after Lord Of The Rings. I have Mordor, Rivendell and Crystal(Crystal after the ball in Saruman's lair). I log on as Sam or Frodo :)
whats really bad is we as consumers are okay with power cycling some
of our devices when we really should not have to do that to right
whats wrong.
Until we stop using electrons to denote on/off in computer equipment, I think we are stuck with Power Cycling equipment that has been running too long for the foreseeable future.
Hey, don't knock what works. Every time my wife compla
wireless/cable TV/Apple TV/Wii/anything not working, I
After eye-rolling ensues, I ask her if it worked. It u
I name all my PCs and my server (a WinXP Virtual Machine) after Lord Of T Rings. I have Mordor, Rivendell and Crystal(Crystal after the ball in Saruman's lair). I log on as Sam or Frodo :)
GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Sometimes the gremlins even have to be smacked out.
or, they can make a better product!
or, they can make a better product!
I'm sure they can... it would just cost more :-/ lol
So true, back in the day upgrades were felt immiedietly. Especially back in the day when I had TRS-80 Color Computers from the Rat Shack. These days, I pretty much stuck on everything Apple -- with SSD's of course. Took a "whol lot of trying to get up the hill thoguh". Wemt through OS2, GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, etc, etc...
Exactly! Getting things to "work" was the best part. Being on the phone with the BBS guys till 5:00am asking questions. If you ask a question today your "stupid".It was never like that because there wasn't many of us around. Once plug and play came out it all became easy and nothing needed to be configure
or, they can make a better product!
I'm sure they can... it would just cost more :-/ lol
Re: Re: Computer technology
By: KenDB3 to Mro on Sat Jan 24 2015 12:33 pm
or, they can make a better product!
I'm sure they can... it would just cost more :-/ lol
And if they did, then it may not break down. Therefore no return customers.
Jeff
what they are doing now is pushing people to get the newest thing.
like cellphones. there's a new model out every year but people dont really need it if they have last year's model.
what they are doing now is pushing people to get the newest thing.
like cellphones. there's a new model out every year but people dont really need it if they have last year's model.
only had for about a year and a half, but I've heard they won't be providing Android 5 update for it. At least, not officially anyway. I've heard there a group called Cyanogenmod that has an Android 5 ROM for my phone - I've thought about trying to upgrade it, but I wonder if it's really worth riskin possibly making the phone unusable. I've heard some people have had success with it with the same phone & carrier though.
Re: Re: Computer technology
By: KenDB3 to Mro on Sat Jan 24 2015 12:33 pm
or, they can make a better product!
I'm sure they can... it would just cost more :-/ lol
would it really?
Android 5 update on my phone, which I've only had for about a year and a half, but I've heard they won't be providing an Android 5 update for it.
At least, not officially anyway. I've heard there's a group called Cyanogenmod that has an Android 5 ROM for my phone - I've thought about trying to upgrade it, but I wonder if it's really worth risking possibly making the phone unusable. I've heard some people have had success with it with the same phone & carrier though.
would it really?
Better stuff always costs more (in the beginning). Its all the research and development being paid for. And then you have a higher cost of production
at first until you get 1) better at making it and more efficient, and 2)
you are producing a larger quantity. Its the whole Economies of Scale
thing. So, yeah, it really would cost more until it became easier and
you've got to be talking about more expensive materials overall. I would guess at the very least the materials would end up costing more based on
you wont make your phone unusable. what you do is install clockworkmod recovery and you make a backup of your phone and restore it if the rom doesnt work for you or if there's some other issue.
even if you totally f-up your phone you can download the official rom online, put your phone into download mode and put that rom back on your phone. very easy to do, especially with odin
i dont think better stuff costs more. it's all made out of the same shit usually. they just need to DEVELOP an OS for the device that is reliable.
bottom line, it's cheap to make electronics. they just sell it for a lot.
At least, not officially anyway. I've heard there's a group called Cyanogenmod that has an Android 5 ROM for my phone - I've thought about trying to upgrade it, but I wonder if it's really worth risking possibly
The carrier's versions of android are full of bloatware .. I much prefer ROMs that are based on AOSP (Android Open Source Project). The hard part is making sure you get a phone that is supported by the developer community. I have the Nexus 5 now and couldn't be happier. I've had Android 5 for about 4 months and really like it.
I recommend the nexus series since they come with AOSP out the box and they're always well supported by the community because they come unlocked and they're (usually) the first to get updates from Google.
When I move house, I usually wish I did that too. But there are times
I just like to put on the old games etc. But now I have Dosbox, I can probably do away with the old hardware, I can probably do away with it..
i toss that shit in the garbage!
Well toss that "shit" in my garbage!
No, please do a side-by-side comparison before you make such a drastic move. You might not be able to tell without the real thing there (people belive ol games were clunky because they only witness them emulated) Even on new hardware, the responsivity is laggy, and the frame-rate low under DosBox. A good testbench is Stunts. If the controls aren't tight, it is no fun under DosBox.
Plus if your old hardware has CRT monitors, then the 320x200 graphics that l crisp and ghost-free will be all blurry under DosBox at a non-native LCD resolution. Or you'll have to run it in a window if the blurry-on-an-LCD resolution is annoying, ruining the immersiveness of the game, and turning i into a lite gamer distraction. Pretty much turning Wing Commander into Minesweeper.
or, they can make a better product!
I'm sure they can... it would just cost more :-/ lol
I could never dump my old hardware. The 384, 486, classic Pentiums, the 8in Floppy disks..... All remind me of the old days :) And I love the old days.
i have a memory so i just think back instead of having a bunch of old junk to trip over.
Tracker1 wrote to Mro <=-
Playing with build scripts for getting synchronet running under
docker... once I have that up, with a few extras, will probably run it under a droplet on digital ocean to see how it works, or may just keep
it up on my desktop pc. --
How hard is it to migrate a Windows SBBS install over to Linux?
What new and interesting computer technology has come out recently or is
set to come out soon? A couple things I can think of are 3D printers and newer devices for 3D video (such as 3D televisions & monitors and the associated glasses & accessories to support them). To be fair, though, I
saw some 3D glasses for PC gaming about 20 years ago (I saw some being demoed for the game Descent around that time), so 3D video isn't exactly new. 3D printing has already started to change how people make almost anything, from tools to toys to parts for fixing things. Besides those, I can't think of many significant computer upgrades these days.
That's true, I didn't think about SSDs when I wrote my original post. I
put an SSD in my PC a couple years ago, and it made quite a difference for bootup time. It seems it made the most difference for bootup though; it seems that starting programs isn't much faster with the SSD.
i have a memory so i just think back instead of having a bunch of old junk to trip over.
Wow, something we agree on... I haven't found much I couldn't replace or
run via emulation anyways.. I have enough old hardware for what might be useful, let alone keeping it all... gave away 3 computers over the holidays from when I decomissioned my home servers.
My BBS VM (Win2k3) runs quite nicely on it - but keeping a server in a
data centre isn't cheap.
How hard is it to migrate a Windows SBBS install over to Linux?
How hard is it to migrate a Windows SBBS install over to Linux?
the only hard thing to do is redo the doorgames with dosemu.
otherwise, it's just minutes
I'm undecided about smart watches. They seem like a cool idea, but at the same time, I don't have much desire to have one. I feel like my current (more traditional) watch still does what I want it to do, and if I want to check my email/messages, I can reach for my cell phone.
As for implants, I am hesitant about those. For one, there's the medical risk that's always inherent in doing such procedures. At the least, I'd wonder if the tissue around an implant is at risk of being irritated over
Mro wrote to Sampsa <=-
My BBS VM (Win2k3) runs quite nicely on it - but keeping a server in a
data centre isn't cheap.
How hard is it to migrate a Windows SBBS install over to Linux?
the only hard thing to do is redo the doorgames with dosemu.
otherwise, it's just minutes
Mro wrote to Sampsa <=-
My BBS VM (Win2k3) runs quite nicely on it - but keeping a server in a data centre isn't cheap.
How hard is it to migrate a Windows SBBS install over to Linux?
the only hard thing to do is redo the doorgames with dosemu. otherwise, it's just minutes
I don't run any games locally, I just have a doormenu that launches socat sessions to BBSLink (www.bbslink.net).
I wonder how many Linux-native BBS doors there are.. I know some Win32-native BBS doors, and I'm not sure how easily those would run in Linux.
Personally, I would love to see a holographic display come to real life. That would be a game changer for computers and phones. I know they have some "holographic keyboards" for some phones to make typing easier.
That would be something though.. A 4K holographic 360 degree display.
I'm drooling already just thinking about it...
I wonder how many Linux-native BBS doors there are.. I know some
Win32-native BBS doors, and I'm not sure how easily those would run in
Linux.
i ran the linux lord version and i ran 2 of sean dennis' doors and they worked well.
Have you heard about Microsoft HoloLens?
http://youtu.be/aThCr0PsyuA
It looks like it could be a great tool, but I'm wondering if people will start becoming attached to something like that the same way people are attached to their smart phones. After using glasses like that, I wonder if it would be difficult to get used to not using them.
No doubt the Linux-native doors that are out there work well. I was
just wondering how many of them there are compared to Win32-native
doors, and if it would be easy to get Win32-native doors running in
Linux.
I think most of the Win32 native doors come with their older DOS based counterpart. I don't believe I've ever tried installing a Win32 door on
I have a couple of games installed here that have a Win32 version, but also came with their older DOS version, which is what I installed here (mainly because that was probably the only *major* difference between the two. Door game developers kinda stopped right during the transition to Win32, so a lot of them supported both a Win32 and DOS version.
A couple Win32 doors I have on my BBS are Tournament Trivia and Ambroshia: Test of Time. I don't think there was a DOS version of Tournament Trivia, but Ambroshia, maybe.
Re: Re: SBBS Linux
By: Accession to Nightfox on Wed Feb 11 2015 17:24:04
I think most of the Win32 native doors come with their older DOS based counterpart. I don't believe I've ever tried installing a Win32 door on
I have a couple of games installed here that have a Win32 version, but also came with their older DOS version, which is what I installed here (mainly because that was probably the only *major* difference between the
two. Door game developers kinda stopped right during the transition to Win32, so a lot of them supported both a Win32 and DOS version.
A couple Win32 doors I have on my BBS are Tournament Trivia and Ambroshia: Test
of Time. I don't think there was a DOS version of Tournament Trivia, but Ambroshia, maybe.
Nightfox
are you running under wine?
A couple Win32 doors I have on my BBS are Tournament Trivia and
Ambroshia: Test of Time. I don't think there was a DOS version of Tournament Trivia, but Ambroshia, maybe.
I wonder how many Linux-native BBS doors there are.. I know some Win32-native BBS doors, and I'm not sure how easily those would run in Linux.
Re: SBBS Linux
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Feb 09 2015 07:24 pm
I wonder how many Linux-native BBS doors there are.. I know some Win32-native BBS doors, and I'm not sure how easily those would run i Linux.
Linux terminal games run well as doors in Synchronet, so there are LOTS
:)
Re: SBBS Linuxin
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Feb 09 2015 07:24 pm
I wonder how many Linux-native BBS doors there are.. I know some Win32-native BBS doors, and I'm not sure how easily those would run
Linux.
Linux terminal games run well as doors in Synchronet, so there are LOTS :)
Re: Re: SBBS Linux
By: Ragnarok to Nightfox on Thu Feb 12 2015 11:40:23
are you running under wine?
No, I run my BBS in Windows, so I don't need wine.
The problem with those is that they are not multi-player. And you
typically can't pass the username to the game.
On 02/13/15, Froggyme said the following...
Re: SBBS Linux
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Feb 09 2015 07:24 pm
I wonder how many Linux-native BBS doors there are.. I know some Win32-native BBS doors, and I'm not sure how easily those would run i
Linux.
Linux terminal games run well as doors in Synchronet, so there are LOTS :)
The problem with those is that they are not multi-player. And you typically can't pass the username to the game.
You can also use Frotz and FrobTADS to run old Infocom or newer interactive fiction games.
--Josh
El 13/02/15 a las 12:04, Gryphon escibió:
On 02/13/15, Froggyme said the following...
Re: SBBS Linux
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Feb 09 2015 07:24 pm
iI wonder how many Linux-native BBS doors there are.. I know s Win32-native BBS doors, and I'm not sure how easily those woul
Linux.
Linux terminal games run well as doors in Synchronet, so there are :)
The problem with those is that they are not multi-player. And you typic can't pass the username to the game.
why you can not pass the username to the door? it is not handle via drop file?
You can also use Frotz and FrobTADS to run old Infocom or newer interac fiction games.
--Josh
I paired the DOS version of Frotz with Doorway and got Zork I running (on WinXP), but for some reason couldn't get any other Infocom games
working. I didn't know about FrobTADS... looks like they have a TADS for MS-DOS. I might have to take a crack at getting a couple more games to work.
Linux terminal games run well as doors in Synchronet, so there are
LOTS :)
The problem with those is that they are not multi-player. And you typically can't pass the username to the game.
or, they can make a better product!
I'm sure they can... it would just cost more :-/ lol
For one thing, it would mean ECC memory in everything. Even that's not a 100% fix though since it's still possible (and not uncommon) for the universe to corrupt memory beyond the correctable limits.
Bits changing is not at all uncommon... and it's not always due to bad hardware.
Does anybody remember the game ZZT from a few decades ago? Apparently, somebody created a free-zzt version of the source code. I was thinking
of compiliing it and modifying it for doorgame use. Has anybody else tried it?
OMG! This was one of my favorite DOS games growing up! I still have several of the ZZT games, and will sometimes play the original in DOSBox. By the way, the trick with that game is to save OFTEN.
I tried to run that game through Doorway and also cioxtrn, but I never got it to work.
Does anybody remember the game ZZT from a few decades ago? Apparently, somebody created a free-zzt version of the source code. I was thinking of compiliing it and modifying it for doorgame use. Has anybody else tried it?
fHave you heard about Microsoft HoloLens?
http://youtu.be/aThCr0PsyuA
It looks like it could be a great tool, but I'm wondering if people will start becoming attached to something like that the same way people are attached to their smart phones. After using glasses like that, I wonder i
eit would be difficult to get used to not using them.
Never saw that before. The concept is impressive, but there are lots of sid
effects and negatives to think through. I can see where things like that could
become reality, but there is a delicate balance where some of this can back-fire on people. Security, privacy, social skills, etc. People are already glued to their phones all day and don't interact like years ago.
- Mark
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