We still use dial-up at work as a means to console in to our networking equipment when the WAN/Internet goes down or if the equipment crashes. I don't see us ever getting rid of our modem lines for this purpose.
We still use dial-up at work as a means to console in to our networking equipment when the WAN/Internet goes down or if the equipment crashes. I don't see us ever getting rid of our modem lines for this purpose.
We still use dial-up at work as a means to console in to our networking equipment when the WAN/Internet goes down or if the equipment crashes. I don't see us ever getting rid of our modem lines for this purpose.
was a null cable), I have it on my desk, but the phone line in my house doesn't run up to my computer. Being lazy I'm waiting to get everything setup correctly, but I'm planning to setup the USR to answer BBS calls and take faxes. I may even go as far to get a second phone number and use
unique rings on the line. We'll see.
We still use dial-up at work as a means to console in to our networking equipment when the WAN/Internet goes down or if the equipment crashes. I don see us ever getting rid of our modem lines for this purpose.
We still use dial-up at work as a means to console in to our
networking equipment when the WAN/Internet goes down or if the
equipment crashes. I don't see us ever getting rid of our modem lines
for this purpose.
I've never known of anyone using a dial-up modem in many years. Even where I work, I could imagine someone setting up modem lines for the purpose you describe, but we don't use dial-up modems at work.
Until recently, my parents still had dial-up Internet, as they live in
the boondocks. They finally got satelite Internet, but prior to that,
I'm glad my laptop has a built in modem, so I could plug into the phone-jack and still get onto the net! And isn't it ironic: a "modern" media-delivery device of a laptop would have been the worthless archaic device with no networking capabilities in that situation, while my older laptop was futuristically surfing the web.
Yeah, I suppose a modem can still be useful in some situations. It seems that
most tech manufacturers don't consider those who live in very small rural areas
who might not have access to broadband internet. Another example I can think
of is that Microsoft and Apple make huge software updates that would take hours
to download on a dialup connection.
We still use dial-up at work as a means to console in to our
networking equipment when the WAN/Internet goes down or if the
equipment crashes. I don't see us ever getting rid of our modem lines
for this purpose.
there's better ways to doing that than POTS.
We still use dial-up at work as a means to console in to our
networking equipment when the WAN/Internet goes down or if the
equipment crashes. I don't see us ever getting rid of our modem lines
for this purpose.
there's better ways to doing that than POTS.
Please elaborate
Re: Anyone Still Use Dial-up?
By: Vectorgamer to Mro on Fri Jul 25 2014 11:07 am
We still use dial-up at work as a means to console in to our
networking equipment when the WAN/Internet goes down or if the
equipment crashes. I don't see us ever getting rid of our modem lines
for this purpose.
there's better ways to doing that than POTS.
Please elaborate
almost the entire planet does not rely on using dialup to access their netwo settings during equiptment failures.
linesWe still use dial-up at work as a means to console in to our
networking equipment when the WAN/Internet goes down or if the
equipment crashes. I don't see us ever getting rid of our modem
for this purpose.
there's better ways to doing that than POTS.
Please elaborate
almost the entire planet does not rely on using dialup to access their network settings during equiptment failures.
network settings during equiptment failures.
almost the entire planet does not rely on using dialup to access their network settings during equiptment failures.
You mean via the networks that would go down, hence the need for dial-up? He's talking about a network failure, not equipment failure. And unless you're an ISP, yes, there is a difference.
I asked if you could elaborate. How am I supposed to access my equipment on the other side of the country in the event of a failure?
there are hardware switches that you can connect to that allow you full access, just like you were sitting there infront of the hardware.
many, many options. whoever is your network admin is a freaking noob.
You mean via the networks that would go down, hence the need for
dial-up? He's talking about a network failure, not equipment
failure. And unless you're an ISP, yes, there is a difference.
Doesn't matter if it's a network failure or an equipment failure, I need console access to the equipment. The way we're doing it now is through a modem attached to a console management switch. If there is a better way to gain console access other than POTS please enlighten me.
there are hardware switches that you can connect to that allow you
full access, just like you were sitting there infront of the hardware. many, many options. whoever is your network admin is a freaking noob.
We are already using console management switches with modems attached to
it.
You still haven't answered my question as to what the alternative to
dial-up is. Probably because you don't have an answer.
I've been doing this for 17 years - I'm hardly a newb.
It sounds like a great way to do it. If the internet goes down, the phone lines will possibly still be up.
yes i did.
oh, and look at this and have YOUR MIND BLOWN. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch
I've been doing this for 17 years - I'm hardly a newb.
if you are their network admin, you should be fired.
you dont need dialup to access computers across the country when there
is an issue.
I'm not talking about KVM. I'm talking about remote console into routers
and switches. For that I have console management switch with modems
attached that allow me to dial-in to the equipment should the WAN or Internet connection go down.
Now you still haven't answered my question (because you don't have an answer) to what is a better alternative to dial-up when the WAN or Internet goes down. You say there are many alternatives but have yet listed one.
Re: Anyone Still Use Dial-up?
By: Vectorgamer to Mro on Wed Jul 30 2014 10:01 am
I'm not talking about KVM. I'm talking about remote console into router and switches. For that I have console management switch with modems attached that allow me to dial-in to the equipment should the WAN or Internet connection go down.
Now you still haven't answered my question (because you don't have an answer) to what is a better alternative to dial-up when the WAN or Inte goes down. You say there are many alternatives but have yet listed one.
this sounds like some made up scenerio you are yacking about just so you can say you still use dialup.
Um, no. I too am in the IT field; have been for 20 years. I can testify that routers and switches do not use KVMs. Initial configurations (when
that routers and switches do not use KVMs. Initial configurations (when the do not have a valid network setup), or when there is no network connectivity, require serial console connections as their only other means
I'm not talking about KVM. I'm talking about remote console into routers
and switches. For that I have console management switch with modems
attached that allow me to dial-in to the equipment should the WAN or Internet connection go down.
Now you still haven't answered my question (because you don't have an answer) to what is a better alternative to dial-up when the WAN or
Internet goes down. You say there are many alternatives but have yet
listed one.
You say I should be fired and you don't even know me. I have 17 years of hands-on Internetworking experience, graduated college with honors and hold certifications in MCSE, CCNP, CCDP and N+. I know what the phuck I'm talking about.
Re: Re: Anyone Still Use Dial-up?
By: Gryphon to Mro on Wed Jul 30 2014 05:35 pm
Um, no. I too am in the IT field; have been for 20 years. I can testif
that routers and switches do not use KVMs. Initial configurations (wh
http://www.thinklogical.com/KVM_Routers http://www.thinklogical.com/securefacilities
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/bank-robbers-use-kvm-switch-and outer-to-steal-money/
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2197470
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/csr1000/software/configuratio 1000Vswcfg/installkvm.html
http://www.digitalextender.com/ds1818mu.html
that routers and switches do not use KVMs. Initial configurations (wh the do nothave a valid network setup), or when there is no network connectivity, require serial console connections as their only other me
this is kind of splitting hairs, here.
first off, when is the internet down and when do you need to access them via pots? probably never. that's what this other guy is talking about.
if there is an issue across the country, it's probably bestto have
another pair of hands there looking at it instead of using dialup.
and that is what most places will do, if they have any sense.
first off, when is the internet down and when do you need to access them via pots? probably never. that's what this other guy is talking about.
Yep, an extra day or two delay, waiting for a tech to reach the site in order to return it to operational status is always preferable to a few
hours of downtime. Or maybe having the vendor send out a patch update on DVD via fedex overnight, instead of downloading the patch update via the
Dude, figure it out. Its not the whole internet we're talking about. It's a sites connection to the internet that might go down. If you're under the assumption that a site owner cares about the ENTIRE internet, then you are mistaken.
certifications in MCSE, CCNP, CCDP and N+. I know what the phuck I'm
talking about.
Phucking phaggot.
Rest assured that this "phucking phaggot" makes more money than you.
first off, when is the internet down and when do you need to access them via pots? probably never. that's what this other guy is talking about.
if there is an issue across the country, it's probably best to have another pair of hands there looking at it instead of using dialup.
and that is what most places will do, if they have any sense.
Phucking phaggot.
but you dont know how to spell.
you're lucky you don't live near me because you'd be shopping for some new front teeth.
you sound like an idiot to me and i'm sure you're working at some bestbuy or you're out of work.
Rest assured that this "phucking phaggot" makes more money than you.
you're lucky you don't live near me because you'd be shopping for some new front teeth.
Rest assured that this "phucking phaggot" makes more money than you.
You must be new. "Phucking phaggot" is a way to get around censors.
In response to your previous post, you said your company has a whopping half-dozen sites around the globe? I have around 50 in the US and Canada.
So, no - I'm not a Geek Squad phaggot.
You're ignorant if you think WAN or Internet connections are always up. Why
ahh, my uncle was a denture salesman as well. it can be very lucrative, if you know how to take advantage of seniors, and my uncle would have liked
the cut of your jib.
anyhow, if you are going to go around trying to hoc your warez, please go
to the appropriate forum, doveNET advertisements, it's proper bbs
etiquette. if anyone knows about that, it's me because i've been here longer than anyone.
yes, i'm through talking to you, captain dialup.
you're lucky you don't live near me because you'd be shopping for some new front teeth.
you sound like an idiot to me and i'm sure you're working at some bestbuy or you're out of work.
That's a relief.. just a few years ago you were crying about how you had to take your BBS down overnight to save on energy costs.. glad you're rolling i the dough now.. supporting your unemployment was getting tiresome..
Any chance you could shed a little more light on some of the working gri that've polished Mro into such a gleaming lump of feces amidst the compost?
You must be new. "Phucking phaggot" is a way to get around censors.
In response to your previous post, you said your company has a
whopping half-dozen sites around the globe? I have around 50 in the US
and Canada. So, no - I'm not a Geek Squad phaggot.
You're ignorant if you think WAN or Internet connections are always
up. Why do you think companies put in redundant connections and
redundant routers? (I'm eagerly awaiting the response to this question
- be sure to check with your IT dept for the answer and get back to me m'kay?)
You must be new. "Phucking phaggot" is a way to get around censors.
In response to your previous post, you said your company has a whopping half-dozen sites around the globe? I have around 50 in the US and Canada. So no - I'm not a Geek Squad phaggot.
You're ignorant if you think WAN or Internet connections are always up. Why you think companies put in redundant connections and redundant routers? (I'm eagerly awaiting the response to this question - be sure to check with your dept for the answer and get back to me m'kay?)
yes, i'm through talking to you, captain dialup.
Any chance you could shed a little more light on some of the working that've polished Mro into such a gleaming lump of feces amidst the compos
nope.. i've said enough, and already stooped to his level..
So, no - I'm not a Geek Squad ______.
between jobs, eh?
By: Mro to Vectorgamer on Thu Jul 31 2014 23:34:42
yes, i'm through talking to you, captain dialup.
everyone here has been done talking to you for years now, you just
havent gotten the message.
Re: Anyone Still Use Dial-up?
By: Mro to Vectorgamer on Thu Jul 31 2014 11:34 pm
So, no - I'm not a Geek Squad ______.
between jobs, eh?
Hey, I used to love working there... you guys are all mean.
After a while, Mro will probably have added enough people to his
twitlist that he won't even see our messages anymore, so we won't have
to talk to him.
So, no - I'm not a Geek Squad ______.
between jobs, eh?
Hey, I used to love working there... you guys are all mean.
"you're going to need these cables"
After a while, Mro will probably have added enough people to his
twitlist that he won't even see our messages anymore, so we won't
have to talk to him.
While we all suffer a little, the people that suffer the most are the
new inspiring sysops that come to ask questions and get completely discouraged by his negativity and unhappiness when he responds to them before anyone else can. :(
After a while, Mro will probably have added enough people to his
twitlist that he won't even see our messages anymore, so we won't
have to talk to him.
While we all suffer a little, the people that suffer the most are the new inspiring sysops that come to ask questions and get completely discouraged by his negativity and unhappiness when he responds to them before anyone else can. :(
Are we done with this? It's getting old and boring. It certainly
doesn't belong in a General Message base. Never let anyone rent space
in your head unless they are paying you to live there. ;-) Now let's
all have a beer and move on shall we?
Are we done with this? It's getting old and boring. It certainly doesn't bel in a General Message base. Never let anyone rent space in your head unless t are paying you to live there. ;-) Now let's all have a beer and move on sha we?
Hey, I used to love working there... you guys are all mean.
"you're going to need these cables"
Yeah, I try not to buy cables from Best Buy if I don't have to. They're all so overpriced.. A $40 cable at Best Buy would probably cost about $5-$7 somewhere else.
Hey, I used to love working there... you guys are all mean.
"you're going to need these cables"
Heh, I worked on diag and repair, didn't have to sell too often, but when I did I always pushed the store brand cables and tried to explain why you don't need a $200 HDMI cable.
The best setup are for sites where we have dual connections. If the MPLS goes down, routing switches over dynamically across the Internet through a DMVPN connection (and vice versa if the Internet goes down). However, for some offices it is not a cost effective solution to have dual connections.
http://www.thinklogical.com/KVM_Routers
http://www.thinklogical.com/KVM_Routers http://www.thinklogical.com/securefacilities
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i talked to the head of it at my company and asked him if he uses dialup to fix network issues and he laughed. they have never had to use a dialup connection to fix or even login to their network.
my company is pretty large and has locations in 3 places in the usa and 4
in europe and asia.
you sound like an idiot to me and i'm sure you're working at some bestbuy
or you're out of work.
You're ignorant if you think WAN or Internet connections are always up. Why do you think companies put in redundant connections and redundant routers? (I'm eagerly awaiting the response to this question - be sure to check with your IT dept for the answer and get back to me m'kay?)
yes, but they're really big. and for everything else we have something called distributers.
Dude, the depth of your own insecurity in your competence shows more about you than Andre the Giant in a g-string exposes.
yes, i'm through talking to you, captain dialup.
everyone here has been done talking to you for years now, you just havent gotten the message.
nope.. i've said enough, and already stooped to his level..
I wouldn't worry too much about who you're arguing with. He picks and chooses a new argument on a weekly basis, and truly believes he's correct 100% of the time, when in all reality it's usually about .1% of the time. Then when he starts losing the argument, he resorts to threats and insults to content himself. Happens all the time. Stick around or a bit and you'll get to see someone else have to deal with it just like you did. Most people just ignore him these days. :)
After a while, Mro will probably have added enough people to his twitlist that he won't even see our messages anymore, so we won't have to talk to him.
That's true.. His negativity certainly isn't helping anyone.
Are we done with this? It's getting old and boring. It certainly doesn't belong in a General Message base. Never let anyone rent space in your head unless they are paying you to live there. ;-) Now let's all have a beer
and move on shall we?
After a while, Mro will probably have added enough people to his
twitlist that he won't even see our messages anymore, so we won't have
to talk to him.
At that point, he will announce that he's leaving DoVeNet forever again and never coming back (again) and that this time he really means it (again)!
Of course, he'll be wrong about that too (again).
You forgot the sarcasm quotes around "competence".
yes, we've lost the ability to use capitals. woe is us.
yes, we've lost the ability to use capitals. woe is us.
SORRY MAN. I WILL USE MOAR CAPITALS 4 U.
I also do large data center network design and configurations. Just deployed (4) Cisco Nexus 9ks with an 80GB backbone as a top-of-rack solution.
distribution frames. The 6504s have two 10-Gbps connections to the core
yes, we've lost the ability to use capitals. woe is us.
SORRY MAN. I WILL USE MOAR CAPITALS 4 U.
Re: DOX ON MRO!
By: MCMLXXIX to Deuce on Tue Aug 12 2014 08:57 am
yes, we've lost the ability to use capitals. woe is us.
SORRY MAN. I WILL USE MOAR CAPITALS 4 U.
yOU Don'T Need tO UsE aLl caps, juST mIx it uP a biT.
ThaNx Man, You'rE tHe bESt.
SORRY MAN. I WILL USE MOAR CAPITALS 4 U.
yOU Don'T Need tO UsE aLl caps, juST mIx it uP a biT.
ThaNx Man, You'rE tHe bESt.
you sound like an idiot to me and i'm sure you're working at some
bestbuy or you're out of work.
We thought the same thing about you, but it turns out the company you work for is much smaller.
When a retail BestBuy location loses their WAN connection, do you think they close or use imprint machines? Or maybe they just grab the managers cell phone and route everything through that until someone can show up to fix the problem.
WHATS WRONG WITH CAPS? ;-)
Re: DOX ON MRO!
By: Gate Keeper to Deuce on Tue Aug 12 2014 11:02 pm
WHATS WRONG WITH CAPS? ;-)
it means you are yelling...
I also do large data center network design and configurations. Just deployed (4) Cisco Nexus 9ks with an 80GB backbone as a top-of-rack solution.
At that point, he will announce that he's leaving DoVeNet forever again and never coming back (again) and that this time he really means it (again)!
When a retail BestBuy location loses their WAN connection, do you
think they close or use imprint machines? Or maybe they just grab the managers cell phone and route everything through that until someone
can show up to fix the problem.
Actually when the POS went down we were usually screwed like every other retail chain out there. :) IBM actually manages all of BBYs POS systems. I remember we had one guy who would visit every 6 weeks, start a fix on any "down" POS systems, leave the systems diagnosing for another 6 weeks until he came back to finish the work. Was hilarious.
WHATS WRONG WITH CAPS? ;-)
it means you are yelling...
WHATS WRONG WITH CAPS? ;-)
it means you are yelling...
no, it means that you are writing in capital letters.
long long ago, someone used capital letters to emphasize what they were saying. eventually it ended up that you were rude and screaming if you were typing in capital letters.
no, it means that you are writing in capital letters.
long long ago, someone used capital letters to emphasize what they were saying. eventually it ended up that you were rude and screaming if you were typing in capital letters.
Actually when the POS went down we were usually screwed like every
other retail chain out there. :) IBM actually manages all of BBYs POS
systems. I remember we had one guy who would visit every 6 weeks,
start a fix on any "down" POS systems, leave the systems diagnosing
for another 6 weeks until he came back to finish the work. Was
hilarious.
Ah, I thought BestBuy would have their own IT. I was speaking more of the backend connection rather than the POS terminal itself though... if your backend went down, you wouldn't just close the store would you?
Kewl. We're supposed to be upgrading to Nexus switches in the core
sometime soon.
Right now we have two 6509s in the core and three 6504s in building distribution frames. The 6504s have two 10-Gbps connections to the core which we have config'd as router ports. I designed, config'd and installed all this stuff myself.
Correction...the 6504s have four 10-Gbps connections to the core. It's
been a while since I installed this :)
For the most part the 6500s have run error free. We had a supe die in one
of the 6504s but we have redundant supes there. And we had to reseat a module in one of the 6509s because (according to Cisco) "modules can
vibrate out of the backplane during normal operation." I kid you not - that's what they told us.
...And on the other side of the spectrum, I just used my last powerline device to plug in my wife's laptop when the wireless craps out. :)
Re: Anyone Still Use Dial-up?
By: Mro to Android8675 on Sun Aug 03 2014 01:17:29
So, no - I'm not a Geek Squad ______.
between jobs, eh?
Hey, I used to love working there... you guys are all mean.
"you're going to need these cables"
Yeah, I try not to buy cables from Best Buy if I don't have to. They're all overpriced.. A $40 cable at Best Buy would probably cost about $5-$7 somewh else.
Nightfox
Re: Anyone Still Use Dial-up?
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Aug 03 2014 07:12 am
Yeah, I try not to buy cables from Best Buy if I don't have to. They'r all so overpriced.. A $40 cable at Best Buy would probably cost about $5-$7 somewhere else.
They carry those, you just have to know where to get them. (hint: ask at the GSI counter)
ya i used to work at best buy (unfortunatly) they are the biggest ripoff ever they sell cheep shit at expensive shit prices
Re: Anyone Still Use Dial-up?
By: cybergod to Android8675 on Sat Oct 11 2014 04:26 am
ya i used to work at best buy (unfortunatly) they are the biggest ripoff ever they sell cheep shit at expensive shit prices
my problem with bestbuy is :
+ their custom line of electronics products "dyn...something"
+ their very old stock
+ the idiots they have selling items.
+ that crap when they used to do mail in rebates
+ their warranties are usually crappy.
also one time i brought in a netbook just bought.
there was an issue with the nic.
they insisted i wait there while a member of their geek squad trouble shoots the issue. they could have just sent the fucker back to asus and be done wi it. NO..... some low paid know it all gets to fuck around with it while i waited for half an hour to get the OK so i could get my money back.
be done wi it. NO..... some low paid know it all gets to fuck around with it while i waited for half an hour to get the OK so i could get my money back.
ya they absolutly suck, plus the item should have been exchanged imidiatly if it was new and had a problem out of the box. did it have a problem with the nic as soon as you set it up?
I stopped buying at Best Buy when I bought a couple of cameras and financed through them. Unbeknownst to me, the sales rep signed me up for a "unemployment prevention" insurance clause - pay them $5 a month, and if I lost my job and didn't want to pay for the camera any more, they'd take it back and close the note.
get it straightened out, but at that point I was willing to wait for as
long as it took to get it taken care of.
Now I make a point of browsing there and buying elsewhere. And letting them know that.
bestbuy doesnt even have a decent selection. i'd just use amazon.
Re: Anyone Still Use Dial-up?
By: Mro to Poindexter Fortran on Fri Oct 24 2014 19:54:21
bestbuy doesnt even have a decent selection. i'd just use amazon.
I agree. And now that Best Buy does price matching with Amazon (and other online stores), I'll pick up something at Best Buy if they happen to have
it in stock; otherwise I'll just buy from Amazon (or Newegg or wherever
else online).
you can still get a lot of stuff tax free on amazon and they dont
complain if you send something back, though.
you can still get a lot of stuff tax free on amazon and they dont complain if you send something back, though.
Worst (Buy) literally turns my stomach. Haven't been in a BB in over 15 years. Hate when I hear someone talking about buying crap from them.
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