Hi all,

I started up my Synchronet BBS, Farpoint Station, and I wanted to see if the Dove-net configuration was working.

Does anyone have any suggestion for a good graphic to ansi conversion
utility? I am not at all artisticly talented but I have some ideas for the sc reens that I want to express.

I used to run a BBS back in the early 90's in Seattle and Juneau, AK. I used CNET Amiga on my Amiga 3000 computer.

Fjolsvith
Sysop
FarpointStation.info



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Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to All on Wed Jun 25 2014 17:58:41

I started up my Synchronet BBS, Farpoint Station, and I wanted to see if the Dove-net configuration was working.

I see your message here. Welcome! :)

Does anyone have any suggestion for a good graphic to ansi conversion utility? I am not at all artisticly talented but I have some ideas for
the sc reens that I want to express.

I used to have a program for DOS that would do that - But generally the results didn't look very good. Also, I've heard that graphic to ANSI conversion is generally discouraged, at least in the art scene, and that's why there aren't many tools available to do that.

Nightfox

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Re: New BBS
By: Nightfox to Fjolsvith on Wed Jun 25 2014 06:11 pm

I used to have a program for DOS that would do that - But generally the results didn't look very good. Also, I've heard that graphic to ANSI conversion is generally discouraged, at least in the art scene, and that's why there aren't many tools available to do that.

Does anyone have any suggestion for a good graphic to ansi
conversion utility? I am not at all artisticly talented but I have
some ideas for the sc reens that I want to express.

Whee, I guess I shouldn't be responding to Nightfox, but I kinda am. I sometimes use image tracers in my ANSI files and I use font generators as well. I don't care about my scene cred though, I just care about results. Plus, whenever I'm doing any sort of graphic design on the computer I will use shortcuts when appropriate. That being said, you get different results when you do things by hand that can't be acheived when you trace stuff. There are tricks to getting good trace results and fitting them into ANSI's. In fact, I haven't found an ANSI tracer or even an IBM-437, just traditional ASCII tracers.

This is the site I use : text-image.com/convert/ascii.html

I've tried a few other ones, and I get the best results with this. Plus, I can set the width of the output, which lets me control the size of it somewhat in case I need to juxtapose it.

You're not going to get a lot of detail, and certain images won't look good. But if you need a silhouette or line drawing it'll get you started. Then you can copy and paste the text from your web browser and go into Pablo Draw. Same thing with fonts and what not. If you google "ascii font generator" there is a patorjk.com that is the first result and I've used that with pretty good results.

Eventually you're going to want to go over them by hand to make them look nice, however, it's more like you have to be capable of properly using a coloring book than a paintbrush. If you visit my board you can see on the login ANSI where I've used a lot of the those techniques in the login scrolling ANSI thingy ma bob. I also drew a lot of the stuff, but I also used tracing techniques, and I definitely used font generators. It took me about 4 hours to do the 1400 line ansi at the beginning, but I was humming along.

Anyhow, I prefer seeing a true artiste as well, but there's no sense in not using tools to make you better if you're not skilled in that area. But even if you do you use the image tracing and font generators you still have to do stuff to make it look good and work.

but i just thought i'd chime in and say, well, i do that, and some people like my ansi art not knowing any better, but there are some tricks in it i thought i'd share briefly.

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Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to All on Wed Jun 25 2014 05:58 pm

I started up my Synchronet BBS, Farpoint Station, and I wanted to see if the Dove-net configuration was working.

Looks good - welcome!

Does anyone have any suggestion for a good graphic to ansi conversion utility? I am not at all artisticly talented but I have some ideas for the sc reens that I want to express.

I'd love to hear if you find one, my ANSI skillz are pretty basic and would love to be able to start with a template from a graphic file somehow.

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Does anyone have any suggestion for a good graphic to ansi conversion utility? I am not at all artisticly talented but I have some ideas for the sc reens that I want to express.

As has already been mentioned here, using such conversion software seems to be frowned upon by sceners.

Even so, I think it's fair game for your own board, your own menus and
screens. I'm up front about my usage of converters. I use the converters to do most of the hard work, then I clean up the results.

I have gotten the best results with an old DOS program called ANSIrez. It requires the use of a GIF viewer, as well, and I have been using CSHOW for
that purpose.

I wrote about some of my earliest experiments here: http://breakintochat.com/blog/2013/09/20/birthday-screens-using-gif-ansi-conver ters/

I've done a bunch more screens for my BBS since then. Some have turned out surprisingly well.

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For reasons unknown to us Fjolsvith said thus to All:

I started up my Synchronet BBS, Farpoint Station, and I wanted
to see if the Dove-net configuration was working.

Seems to be , got it up here in South Dakota. :)

I used to run a BBS back in the early 90's in Seattle and
Juneau, AK. I used CNET Amiga on my Amiga 3000 computer.

Ah, another old timer returns to his first love. Welcome back to the very small world of BBS sysops. :)


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Does anyone have any suggestion for a good graphic to ansi conversion utility? I am not at all artisticly talented but I have some ideas for the sc reens that I want to express.

As has already been mentioned here, using such conversion software seems to be frowned upon by sceners.

Even so, I think it's fair game for your own board, your own menus and screens. I'm up front about my usage of converters. I use the converters to do most of the hard work, then I clean up the results.

I actually wouldn't mind using an image->ANSI converter myself for my own
board - I've never been involved in ANSI art scenes and would only be using
the results for my board.

Nightfox

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Hello Nightfox,

On 25 Jun 14 18:11, Nightfox wrote to Fjolsvith:

I used to have a program for DOS that would do that - But generally
the results didn't look very good. Also, I've heard that graphic to
ANSI conversion is generally discouraged, at least in the art scene,
and that's why there aren't many tools available to do that.

True to a point, I suppose. Since there aren't many artists left, and the ones that are left don't draw all that much for the BBS scene anymore, I could see doing up your BBS however you want to do so.

The main reason gif2ans was frowned upon in the days of old was because people would use it and release those ANSIs in artpacks claiming they were original pieces.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: New BBS
By: Access Denied to Nightfox on Thu Jun 26 2014 17:51:44

Also, I've heard that graphic to
ANSI conversion is generally discouraged, at least in the art scene,
and that's why there aren't many tools available to do that.

True to a point, I suppose. Since there aren't many artists left, and
the ones that are left don't draw all that much for the BBS scene
anymore, I could see doing up your BBS however you want to do so.

The main reason gif2ans was frowned upon in the days of old was because people would use it and release those ANSIs in artpacks claiming they
were original pieces.

Yeah, I can understand that. I've never been in the art scene myself though, and I'd probably only use one of those tools to create graphics for my own BBS.

Nightfox

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Hello Nightfox,

On 25 Jun 14 18:11, Nightfox wrote to Fjolsvith:

I used to have a program for DOS that would do that - But generally
the results didn't look very good. Also, I've heard that graphic to
ANSI conversion is generally discouraged, at least in the art scene,
and that's why there aren't many tools available to do that.

True to a point, I suppose. Since there aren't many artists left, and
the ones that are left don't draw all that much for the BBS scene
anymore, I could see doing up your BBS however you want to do so.

I wish I was affliated with more artists. Perhaps I could colaberate with others with programming and my door game. Getting a few nice screens for players to look at while destroying anything getting in your way.

The main reason gif2ans was frowned upon in the days of old was because people would use it and release those ANSIs in artpacks claiming they
were original pieces.

That's sad there isn't as many artist out there on the BBS-Scene. Lets keep the fire alive and I'd like to see some more new art come out in the following years! Thanks Nick for making that Legion screen available for me. I bet you didn't know it would be used for a door game advertisement. :)

Sincerely,
Jon Justvig

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Re: New BBS
By: LaRRy LaGoMoRpH to Nightfox on Wed Jun 25 2014 11:23 pm

my ansi art not knowing any better, but there are some tricks in it i though i'd share briefly.

wow, I'd like to see you elaborate on something. :)

Fjolsvith
Sysop
Farpoint Station



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Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to All on Wed Jun 25 2014 05:58 pm

Does anyone have any suggestion for a good graphic to ansi conversion utility? I am not at all artisticly talented but I have some ideas for the sc reens that I want to express.

you can use thebrush to convert a .bmp to ansi ...or gif2ans...
or something like that.

what they output usually isnt usuable unless you mess with it a bit.
it's good to have a smaller image with few colors due to resolution and
ansi being 16cols
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I started up my Synchronet BBS, Farpoint Station, and I wanted to see if the ->Dove-net configuration was working.

Well, then, welcome aboard!!!

I used to run a BBS back in the early 90's in Seattle and Juneau, AK. I used ->CNET Amiga on my Amiga 3000 computer.

Or should I say welcome back? :)



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Re: New BBS
By: Nightfox to Fjolsvith on Wed Jun 25 2014 06:11 pm

Does anyone have any suggestion for a good graphic to ansi
conversion utility? I am not at all artisticly talented but I have
some ideas for the sc reens that I want to express.

I used to have a program for DOS that would do that - But generally the results didn't look very good. Also, I've heard that graphic to ANSI conversion is generally discouraged, at least in the art scene, and that's why there aren't many tools available to do that.

This is pretty much true, ANSI artists are cool crazy, and as someone who tried to find a good .gif -> ANSI program I can tell you... An all-in-one solution for converting images to 16-color ANSI files, does not exist.

That said there is one program I found that will get you CLOSE to what you want. ASCGEN2 (Google it, it should come up)

This is a Windows/Linux app that converts images to ASCII/ANSI character sets and even has the ability to save richtext formated files that can use up to 256 colors. It's actually pretty cool for making ASCII art in large sizes (like 240x200 characters or more), and you can choose what characters the program uses to trace the art. With a little tweaking you can get some nice 80x24 screens with a little fiddling.

The problem is, if you want to save the output as an ANSI text file, you can't save the colors. The program won't dither down to the primary 16-colors that ANSI uses. So you can save the file in B&W, then what I did to color the image was to load it into PabloDraw (I actually cut the image from notepad++ and pasted it into a new PabloDraw doc. Then from there I used Pablodraw's coloring tools to color in what I wanted.

If you go to my computer there are a couple crude examples. My login screen was doing using that process. I converted a screen from System Shock 2 then hand colored it and touched it up a little. (shodan.synchro.net)

Of course your OTHER option, and one I found a lot easier was I found one of the ANSI Artists (H7) on AgoraNet was "Taking requests" and he did the large scrolling screen on my board that you see after you login. I asked for "Whatever he felt like drawing in a sci-fi setting", and 2 days later he posted that one for me. He even went further and did the bulletin screen without me having to ask. Said he was "inspired" to do more.

Buncha cool guys on AgoraNet. I'd recommend that othernet if you have Fidonet working and are considering adding another network.

-a.


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Re: New BBS
By: Android8675 to Nightfox on Mon Jun 30 2014 08:36 am

If you go to my computer there are a couple crude examples. My login screen was doing using that process. I converted a screen from System Shock 2 then hand colored it and touched it up a little. (shodan.synchro.net)

God I type bad...

...go to my BBS,

My login screen was done...

Sorry


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Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to All on Wed Jun 25 2014 17:58:41

FarpointStation.info

I tried to connect to your BBS, but I am unable to connect. Are you using a non-standard port? BBS down perhaps?

I'm a long-time Star Trek fan, by the way.. I like your BBS name. :)

Nightfox

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Re: New BBS
By: Nightfox to Fjolsvith on Tue Jul 01 2014 07:42 am

Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to All on Wed Jun 25 2014 17:58:41

FarpointStation.info

I tried to connect to your BBS, but I am unable to connect. Are you using a non-standard port? BBS down perhaps?

I'm a long-time Star Trek fan, by the way.. I like your BBS name. :)

Nightfox

Well, it seems that my ISP is juggling my dynamic IP around pretty
frequently. Since I have to manually update Godaddy's DNS, there's going to
be some delay when my domain isn't pointing at my current IP. I have a
Linksys rounter so when I get $25 I will subscribe to DynDNS and get the
router to auto-update the DNS record.

Sheesh. Why can't I just go back to a phone number?

Fjolsvith

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Hello Fjolsvith,

On 01 Jul 14 22:36, Fjolsvith wrote to Nightfox:

Well, it seems that my ISP is juggling my dynamic IP around pretty frequently. Since I have to manually update Godaddy's DNS, there's
going to be some delay when my domain isn't pointing at my current IP.
I have a Linksys rounter so when I get $25 I will subscribe to DynDNS
and get the router to auto-update the DNS record.

Sheesh. Why can't I just go back to a phone number?

Another way you could handle that, is to snag up a free DNS service from afraid.org, set a provided DNS updater for that free DNS, and point your paid DNS to that.

I also have a godaddy account, and just got hit by a big enough storm the other
day to knock out my internet, changing my IP address, so I've been pondering doing the same thing.

Regards,
Nick

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On 07/02/14, Fjolsvith said the following...

Re: New BBS
By: Nightfox to Fjolsvith on Tue Jul 01 2014 07:42 am

Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to All on Wed Jun 252014 17:58:41

FarpointStation.info

I tried to connect to your BBS, but I am unable to connect. Are you u non-standard port? BBS down perhaps?

I'm a long-time Star Trek fan, by the way.. I like your BBS name. :)

Nightfox

Well, it seems that my ISP is juggling my dynamic IP around pretty frequently. Since I have to manually update Godaddy's DNS, there's
going to be some delay when my domain isn't pointing at my current IP.
I have a Linksys rounter so when Iget $25 I will subscribe to DynDNS and get the router to auto-update the DNS record.

Sheesh. Why can't I just go back to a phone number?

Fjolsvith

I get mine through dyndns.org, which gives me my <host>.darktech.org address.
I had heard that they stopped offering new free accounts, but you can prolly
go check them out and see if they have a better, cheaper service.

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Re: Re: New BBS
By: Gryphon to Fjolsvith on Wed Jul 02 2014 12:38 pm

Sheesh. Why can't I just go back to a phone number?

Fjolsvith

I get mine through dyndns.org, which gives me my <host>.darktech.org address. I had heard that they stopped offering new free accounts, but you can prolly go check them out and see if they have a better, cheaper
service.

darktech.org is DTDNS, not dyndns.org
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Re: Re: New BBS
By: Gryphon to Fjolsvith on Wed Jul 02 2014 12:38 pm

I get mine through dyndns.org, which gives me my <host>.darktech.org address. I had heard that they stopped offering new free accounts, but you can prolly go check them out and see if they have a better, cheaper service.

If anyone knows a bbs sysop that uses no-ip.org, their services are also down. Something about being siezed by microsoft. You can read about it on there web site. Wow. The BBS world is getting its ass kicked eh? SuX!

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I'm a long-time Star Trek fan, by the way.. I like your BBS name. :)

Same here. I did have a Trek themed inteface for my BBS at one time, but I'll be damned if I can find the HTML and graphics files I used for it.



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Re: Re: New BBS
By: Access Denied to Fjolsvith on Wed Jul 02 2014 08:29 am

Hello Fjolsvith,

On 01 Jul 14 22:36, Fjolsvith wrote to Nightfox:

Well, it seems that my ISP is juggling my dynamic IP around pretty frequently. Since I have to manually update Godaddy's DNS, there's going to be some delay when my domain isn't pointing at my current IP. I have a Linksys rounter so when I get $25 I will subscribe to DynDNS and get the router to auto-update the DNS record.

Sheesh. Why can't I just go back to a phone number?

Another way you could handle that, is to snag up a free DNS service from afraid.org, set a provided DNS updater for that free DNS, and point your pai DNS to that.

I also have a godaddy account, and just got hit by a big enough storm the ot day to knock out my internet, changing my IP address, so I've been pondering doing the same thing.

Regards,
Nick

Oh wow, that would really be wonderful! Free DNS!

Thanks man!

Fjolsvith

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Re: Re: New BBS
By: Heliarc to Gryphon on Wed Jul 02 2014 07:09 pm

If anyone knows a bbs sysop that uses no-ip.org, their services are also down. Something about being siezed by microsoft. You can read about it on

actually, microsoft is forwarding them. people said it's not working out so well, but i've check the telnetbbsguide and most of the no-ip addys are working.

the ones that arent working can probably be attributed to sysops who can't keep their bbses up and come and go.
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the ones that arent working can probably be attributed to sysops who
can't keep their bbses up and come and go.

Well, mine wasn't working, either one of the three, and I've been up 24/7
for at least 6 years now. :) Oh well. :)

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Re: Re: New BBS
By: The Curmudgeon to Mro on Fri Jul 04 2014 00:23:00

Well, mine wasn't working, either one of the three, and I've been up 24/7 for at least 6 years now. :) Oh well. :)

If that's because of the no-ip Microsoft thing, it should be back up or up soon. I got an email from them this morning saying they got control back for their domains and are working on them all. Of course that wouldn't be down really just no name service.

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Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to Nightfox on Tue Jul 01 2014 10:36 pm

Well, it seems that my ISP is juggling my dynamic IP around pretty frequently. Since I have to manually update Godaddy's DNS, there's going to be some delay when my domain isn't pointing at my current IP. I have a Linksys rounter so when I get $25 I will subscribe to DynDNS and get the router to auto-update the DNS record.

DD-WRT firmware (runs on many Linksys routers) will update DDNS automatically, without a paid account. I'm looking at mine and there's a hanf-dozen or more entries in there.

Worst case, you can run a DDNS client on the BBS and have it update.

The Synchro.net DDNS service works too, and it's built-in to Synchronet. I point my "friendly" names to reality.synchro.net and haven't had any problems running that way for a couple of years now.

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Re: Re: New BBS
By: The Curmudgeon to Mro on Fri Jul 04 2014 12:23 am

the ones that arent working can probably be attributed to sysops who can't keep their bbses up and come and go.

Well, mine wasn't working, either one of the three, and I've been up 24/7 for at least 6 years now. :) Oh well. :)

yes it was. yours was the first one i checked.
that's why i sent you that email about net2bbs dropping me
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Re: Re: New BBS
By: bcw142 to The Curmudgeon on Fri Jul 04 2014 10:46 am

If that's because of the no-ip Microsoft thing, it should be back up or up soon. I got an email from them this morning saying they got control back
for their domains and are working on them all. Of course that wouldn't be down really just no name service.

i checked a whole bunch of domains during this using the telnetbbsguide. domains were working for the most part. the ones that didnt work then dont work now after no-ip got the 22 domains back.

so i'm pretty sure this talk about ms's taken domains not working is exageration during the time when they were working to switch it all over.
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Re: New BBS
By: Poindexter Fortran to Fjolsvith on Fri Jul 04 2014 06:29 am

frequently. Since I have to manually update Godaddy's DNS, there's going to be some delay when my domain isn't pointing at my current IP. I have a Linksys rounter so when I get $25 I will subscribe to DynDNS and get the router to auto-update the DNS record.

DD-WRT firmware (runs on many Linksys routers) will update DDNS automatically, without a paid account. I'm looking at mine and there's a hanf-dozen or more entries in there.

what service are you talking about? dyndns? they require paid accounts now. they ceased free accounts on april 7th 2014
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bcw142 spoke thus to The Curmudgeon <=-

Well, mine wasn't working, either one of the three, and I've
been up 24/7 for at least 6 years now. :) Oh well. :)

If that's because of the no-ip Microsoft thing, it should be

I'm painfully awareof that, the original post though suggested that
if your board was not working because you weren't paying attention.
:)

back up or up soon. I got an email from them this morning
saying they got control back for their domains and are working
on them all. Of course that wouldn't be down really just no
name service.

Yes, and I've used their service for a goodnumber of years and I
am a member in good standing... premium user no less. It's good to
have them back. :)


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Mro spoke thus to The Curmudgeon <=-

Well, mine wasn't working, either one of the three, and I've
been up 24/7 for at least 6 years now. :) Oh well. :)

yes it was. yours was the first one i checked. that's why i
sent you that email about net2bbs dropping me

Unhunh, and actually I didn't realize that the telnet server wasn't
working , I was too busy trying to figure out just why my binkp
server wasn't working correctly. Until recently I only had one binkp
server working so I couldn't double check it easily. :)

Don't know if I ever thanked you for your info but if not...
thanks!!

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Mro spoke thus to bcw142 <=-

i checked a whole bunch of domains during this using the
telnetbbsguide. domains were working for the most part. the
ones that didnt work then dont work now after no-ip got the 22
domains back.

according to the email I got from the service... it may take a few
hours to get the servers completely repopulated. Should be working
soon though. :)

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Re: New BBS
By: The Curmudgeon to Mro on Fri Jul 04 2014 09:44 pm

telnetbbsguide. domains were working for the most part. the
ones that didnt work then dont work now after no-ip got the 22
domains back.

according to the email I got from the service... it may take a few
hours to get the servers completely repopulated. Should be working
soon though. :)

everyone should just buy a cheap domain and use a provider that allows ip update via scripts or 3rd party programs. i'm sure there will be more hassle in the future for people that use dyn dns servics.


namecheap will provide this service free even if you dont register your domain through them.
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Re: New BBS
By: Poindexter Fortran to Fjolsvith on Fri Jul 04 2014 06:29 am

DD-WRT firmware (runs on many Linksys routers) will update DDNS automaticall without a paid account. I'm looking at mine and there's a hanf-dozen or more entries in there.

Worst case, you can run a DDNS client on the BBS and have it update.

The Synchro.net DDNS service works too, and it's built-in to Synchronet. I point my "friendly" names to reality.synchro.net and haven't had any problem running that way for a couple of years now.

Yeah, I've been meaning to put DDWRT on my Linksys but haven't had much time.

I did get a DDNS updater running on my BBS computer, though, so at least its back up within an hour of the IP change.

Its strange how my ISP just jumps us around to different IPs. First was in 8.36.242.x and now its 64.250.53.x.

I may go to the Synchro.net DDNS as I don't know if my new farpointstation.bbs.io address is going to be approved by the bbs.io owner.

Fjolsvith

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Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jul 05 2014 11:19 am

Its strange how my ISP just jumps us around to different IPs. First was in 8.36.242.x and now its 64.250.53.x.

since you're running it on that kansas fiber stuff, maybe they are doing it cause they dont want static servers on them
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Re: New BBS
By: Mro to Fjolsvith on Sat Jul 05 2014 06:01 pm

Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jul 05 2014 11:19 am

Its strange how my ISP just jumps us around to different IPs. First was 8.36.242.x and now its 64.250.53.x.

since you're running it on that kansas fiber stuff, maybe they are doing it cause they dont want static servers on them

It wouldn't suprise me. They probably want to charge a butt-load for a
static IP. I never asked tho.

I do have to say that I live in a town of 312 people and have 20mb down and
3mb up fiber to the premises. I love hurricane Katrina!

Fjolsvith

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Re: New BBS
By: Mro to The Curmudgeon on Sat Jul 05 2014 10:03 am

namecheap will provide this service free even if you dont register your domain
through them.

Namecheap is who I use... Very fairly priced, and I love their interface. I also
recommend using their service.



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Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jul 05 2014 11:19 am

Yeah, I've been meaning to put DDWRT on my Linksys but haven't had much time.

I tried it a couple years ago myself, but it didn't work too well for me. My Linksys was a cheaper model that only had half the memory. I could be wrong, but if I rememeber correctly the original WRT54G shipped with 8MB RAM, and
they wound up halving that in later models. Something like that.

DDWRT installs fine for me, but it barely fits in memory. I couldn't enable the options I wanted w/o running out of memory, and I often ran out of memory with too many connections. I eventually went back to factory firmware.

Just thought I'd share my experience. Hopefully you'll have an 8MB model
and won't have any probs like I did. DDWRT is pretty awesome.


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everyone should just buy a cheap domain and use a provider
that allows ip update via scripts or 3rd party programs. i'm
sure there will be more hassle in the future for people that
use dyn dns servics.

Ummm, I may have to look into that in the future. :)

namecheap will provide this service free even if you dont
register your domain through them.

Ummm... can you remind me again in a couple months. :) Kinda busy
setting up my mystic system. :)


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Mro wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

automatically, without a paid account. I'm looking at mine and there's a hanf-dozen or more entries in there.

what service are you talking about? dyndns? they require paid accounts now. they ceased free accounts on april 7th 2014

DynDNS.org
freedns.afraid.org
ZoneEdit.com
No-IP.com
3322.org
easydns.com
TZO.com
DynSIP.org

Or, roll your own, as they usually use a custom crafted URL that you can generate.





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Re: New BBS
By: Dreamer to Fjolsvith on Sun Jul 06 2014 09:44 pm

Yeah, I've been meaning to put DDWRT on my Linksys but haven't had
much time.

I tried it a couple years ago myself, but it didn't work too well for me. My Linksys was a cheaper model that only had half the memory. I could be wrong, but if I rememeber correctly the original WRT54G shipped with 8MB RAM, and they wound up halving that in later models. Something like that.

The nice thing about DD-WRT is that there are a LOT of routers that support it now. I'm running a Buffalo WZR300HP router with 32 MB of RAM and N radios for $50. it runs DD-WRT out of the box.

I still like the old Linksys WRT54Gs, though - I ran one of those 4MB models for years.

There are various builds -- there's a micro build that does pretty much what the factory firmware does, and runs on 2MB models. You only need more memory when you start adding VPN server support or other add-ons.

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Re: New BBS
By: Poindexter Fortran to Dreamer on Mon Jul 07 2014 06:47 am

The nice thing about DD-WRT is that there are a LOT of routers that support now. I'm running a Buffalo WZR300HP router with 32 MB of RAM and N radios fo $50. it runs DD-WRT out of the box.

I was hoping to run DD-WRT on my Asus RT-N66U when I bought it. It seems people have gotten it installed on that router, but with some issues. I installed Tomato instead - Tomato installed fairly easily and has some nice features. I like DD-WRT's UI better though.

Nightfox

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Re: New BBS
By: Dreamer to Mro on Sun Jul 06 2014 09:37 pm

Re: New BBS
By: Mro to The Curmudgeon on Sat Jul 05 2014 10:03 am

namecheap will provide this service free even if you dont register your domain through them.

Namecheap is who I use... Very fairly priced, and I love their interface.
I also recommend using their service.

i switched to namecheap but they dont have that many deals. and i own so many sites, having deals for renews helps.

so i sided with the devil and went back to godaddy
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Re: New BBS
By: The Curmudgeon to Mro on Mon Jul 07 2014 12:48 am

namecheap will provide this service free even if you dont
register your domain through them.

Ummm... can you remind me again in a couple months. :) Kinda busy
setting up my mystic system. :)

sure, paypal me 10 bucks and i'll remind you in 2 months :D
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Re: Re: New BBS
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Sun Jul 06 2014 03:27 pm

Mro wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

automatically, without a paid account. I'm looking at mine and there's a hanf-dozen or more entries in there.

what service are you talking about? dyndns? they require paid accounts now. they ceased free accounts on april 7th 2014

DynDNS.org
freedns.afraid.org
ZoneEdit.com
No-IP.com
3322.org
easydns.com
TZO.com
DynSIP.org

i wasnt asking for a list of services. you said you had dyndns working without a paid account.

dydns.org is now pay only.
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Re: New BBS
By: Poindexter Fortran to Dreamer on Mon Jul 07 2014 06:47 am

now. I'm running a Buffalo WZR300HP router with 32 MB of RAM and N radios for
$50. it runs DD-WRT out of the box.

I still like the old Linksys WRT54Gs, though - I ran one of those 4MB models for years.

There are various builds -- there's a micro build that does pretty much what the factory firmware does, and runs on 2MB models. You only need more memory when you start adding VPN server support or other add-ons.

Maybe mine was the 2MB... Like I said, it's been quite a long time. I was definitely running a micro build, but still ran into memory issues.

But then again, at the time I did a lot of torrenting, so I put it through its paces. Regular web browsing and light downloading between one or two users probably wouldn't have caused problems on my router.


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Re: New BBS
By: Dreamer to Fjolsvith on Sun Jul 06 2014 09:44 pm

Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jul 05 2014 11:19 am

Yeah, I've been meaning to put DDWRT on my Linksys but haven't had much t

I tried it a couple years ago myself, but it didn't work too well for me. M Linksys was a cheaper model that only had half the memory. I could be wrong but if I rememeber correctly the original WRT54G shipped with 8MB RAM, and they wound up halving that in later models. Something like that.

DDWRT installs fine for me, but it barely fits in memory. I couldn't enable the options I wanted w/o running out of memory, and I often ran out of memor with too many connections. I eventually went back to factory firmware.

Just thought I'd share my experience. Hopefully you'll have an 8MB model and won't have any probs like I did. DDWRT is pretty awesome.

How do you tell how much memory it has, if you recall?

Fjolsvith

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Re: Routers and firmware
By: Nightfox to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Jul 07 2014 01:30 pm

I was hoping to run DD-WRT on my Asus RT-N66U when I bought it. It seems people have gotten it installed on that router, but with some issues. I installed Tomato instead - Tomato installed fairly easily and has some nice features. I like DD-WRT's UI better though.

I liked Tomato's bandwidth tracking -- saved bandwidth logs to my desktop, I had 2 years worth of information on there. Helpful when Comcast was enforcing caps.

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Re: Re: New BBS
By: Mro to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Jul 07 2014 06:06 pm

i wasnt asking for a list of services. you said you had dyndns working without a paid account.

dynamic DNS services, not dyndns' services.

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Re: New BBS
By: Dreamer to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Jul 07 2014 01:36 pm

But then again, at the time I did a lot of torrenting, so I put it through its paces. Regular web browsing and light downloading between one or two users probably wouldn't have caused problems on my router.

My father has an old 2MB flash Belkin router running an old Micro build of DD-WRT. It had been up for over a year when I had to unplug it to move the cables around in his office

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Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to Dreamer on Mon Jul 07 2014 09:42 pm

How do you tell how much memory it has, if you recall?

DD-WRT has specs for all of the routers it runs on. Be aware that the same model number can have several different sub-models with different chips/memory/etc.

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Re: Routers and firmware
By: Poindexter Fortran to Nightfox on Tue Jul 08 2014 09:01:48

I liked Tomato's bandwidth tracking -- saved bandwidth logs to my
desktop, I had 2 years worth of information on there. Helpful when
Comcast was enforcing caps.

I agree. I do like Tomato's bandwidth tracking, as it would be useful with an ISP that enforces caps.

Nightfox

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Ummm... can you remind me again in a couple months. :) Kinda
busy setting upmy mystic system. :)

sure, paypal me 10 bucks and i'll remind you in 2 months :D

sure... give me a phoney paypal addressthen. <g>

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Re: Re: New BBS
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Tue Jul 08 2014 09:02 am

Re: Re: New BBS
By: Mro to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Jul 07 2014 06:06 pm

i wasnt asking for a list of services. you said you had dyndns working without a paid account.

dynamic DNS services, not dyndns' services.

ah, sorry. been doing a lot of late night reading. my sleep pattern is screwed up since the holiday
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Re: New BBS
By: Fjolsvith to Dreamer on Mon Jul 07 2014 09:42 pm

Just thought I'd share my experience. Hopefully you'll have an 8MB model and won't have any probs like I did. DDWRT is pretty awesome.

How do you tell how much memory it has, if you recall?

Ahead of time...hmm... you could probably find out by looking up the FCC ID on it. Other than that, I found out after I loaded up DDWRT on it, and I noticed I had almost no free memory left. :(


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Re: New BBS
By: Mro to The Curmudgeon on Sat Jul 05 2014 10:03 am

namecheap will provide this service free even if you dont register your

domain

through them.

Namecheap is who I use... Very fairly priced, and I love their interface. I ->also
recommend using their service.

I use them as my registrar, but I run my own DNS servers here as well as my
own DynDNS services at fpsoft.net and winserver.us.



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Re: Re: New BBS
By: Mro to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Jul 08 2014 05:43 pm

ah, sorry. been doing a lot of late night reading. my sleep pattern is screwed up since the holiday

Mine's been permanently screwed for a while. Leave work early to pick up my daughter from day care or my son from school on the weekends, make it up by working after they go to bed, then go to work and goof off because I can make it up at night, and on and on.

I need to focus on working at work and homing at home. :)

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Re: New BBS
By: Dreamer to Fjolsvith on Tue Jul 08 2014 06:14 pm

Ahead of time...hmm... you could probably find out by looking up the FCC ID on it. Other than that, I found out after I loaded up DDWRT on it, and I noticed I had almost no free memory left. :(

Most Linuxes will use up all available ram for cache, so that might be what's going on. There's also a bit of memory that can be used for the filesystem as well - jffs2, I believe.

One cool hack I wanted to try was that you could solder a SD card socket onto the router and mount SD card memory on the system. Hackaday.com loved those things for a while.

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I liked Tomato's bandwidth tracking -- saved bandwidth logs to my desktop, I had 2 years worth of information on there. Helpful when Comcast was enforcing
caps.

Guess what? I believe they have started doing just that again.

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I liked Tomato's bandwidth tracking -- saved bandwidth logs to my desktop, I had 2 years worth of information on there. Helpful when Comcast was enforcing caps.

Guess what? I believe they have started doing just that again.

Do you have a link or anything pointing to some info on that?

Nightfox

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Re: Routers and firmware
By: ROBERT WOLFE to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Jul 10 2014 10:49 am

Guess what? I believe they have started doing just that again.

From the Comcast my account page:

"Note: Enforcement of the 250GB data consumption threshold is currently suspended."

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Re: Routers and firmware
By: ROBERT WOLFE to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Jul 10 2014 10:49 am

I liked Tomato's bandwidth tracking -- saved bandwidth logs to my desktop, I had 2 years worth of information on there. Helpful when Comcast was enforcing caps.

Guess what? I believe they have started doing just that again.

a lot of isps give you the ability to track your own BW now. there's probably a url on your account page with your isp.
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Re: Routers and firmware
By: Poindexter Fortran to ROBERT WOLFE on Thu Jul 10 2014 05:45 pm

Re: Routers and firmware
By: ROBERT WOLFE to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Jul 10 2014 10:49 am

Guess what? I believe they have started doing just that again.

From the Comcast my account page:

"Note: Enforcement of the 250GB data consumption threshold is currently suspended."

but that's just for your area. also there's areas where it's enforced and areas were it is not.
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Re: Routers and firmware
By: Mro to ROBERT WOLFE on Sat Jul 12 2014 03:52 am

a lot of isps give you the ability to track your own BW now. there's probably a url on your account page with your isp.

I don't trust the company charging me for bandwidth and charging for overages with metering my usage as well. Nice to have a backup measurement.

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Re: Routers and firmware
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Sat Jul 12 2014 09:58 am

a lot of isps give you the ability to track your own BW now. there's probably a url on your account page with your isp.

I don't trust the company charging me for bandwidth and charging for overages with metering my usage as well. Nice to have a backup measurement.

it's not about trust. they're watching you and watching you closely.
the readings are probably accurate. i think most modern routers have bw tracking, as well.

if you dispute your bw usage with comcast, i'm sure they'll say "too bad"
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Re: Routers and firmware
By: Mro to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jul 12 2014 06:27 pm

if you dispute your bw usage with comcast, i'm sure they'll say "too bad"

I'm sure in a tie they would -- and I'd leave in a second for a lower bandwidth but full-featured DSL provider in the area.

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Re: New BBS
By: Poindexter Fortran to Dreamer on Wed Jul 09 2014 06:37 am

Ahead of time...hmm... you could probably find out by looking up the FCC
ID on it. Other than that, I found out after I loaded up DDWRT on it, and
I noticed I had almost no free memory left. :(

Most Linuxes will use up all available ram for cache, so that might be what's
going on. There's also a bit of memory that can be used for the filesystem as
well - jffs2, I believe.

One cool hack I wanted to try was that you could solder a SD card socket onto
the router and mount SD card memory on the system. Hackaday.com loved those things for a while.

Yeah, I've seen hacks like that. I might give it a try one day, since I'm not planning on using the router anytime soon. I'm not very good with my hands, and
I haven't tried soldering anything since I was a teenager. I screwed up my old Amiga 500 one day trying to repair the motherboard...lol... it had a wire that had
come loose, and my unsteady hand missed the spot I was soldering and fouled up a
...well, the actual term escapes me for a moment, but I burned between a couple of the motherboard's integrated connections.


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Re: New BBS
By: Mro to Dreamer on Mon Jul 07 2014 18:04:33

i switched to namecheap but they dont have that many deals. and i own so man

y

sites, having deals for renews helps.

so i sided with the devil and went back to godaddy

Well it's good to know that you support the wholesale murder of intelligent warm-blooded mammals like yourself, and that it's not just limited to humans.

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Re: Routers and firmware
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Sat Jul 12 2014 09:58:31

a lot of isps give you the ability to track your own BW now. there's probably a url on your account page with your isp.

I don't trust the company charging me for bandwidth and charging for overag

es

with metering my usage as well. Nice to have a backup measurement.

Indeed. SNMP for the win.

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Re: Routers and firmware
By: Mro to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jul 12 2014 18:27:46

Re: Routers and firmware
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Sat Jul 12 2014 09:58 am

a lot of isps give you the ability to track your own BW now. there's probably a url on your account page with your isp.

I don't trust the company charging me for bandwidth and charging for overages with metering my usage as well. Nice to have a backup measuremen

t.

it's not about trust. they're watching you and watching you closely.
the readings are probably accurate. i think most modern routers have bw tracking, as well.

if you dispute your bw usage with comcast, i'm sure they'll say "too bad"

Dude shut up, I'm sick of raging at you already. Not sick enough to enemy list you yet, though. ;)
Anyway, yeah, they'll say too bad, of course they will. Any monopoly that owns legions of lawyers will do that. That's not the point. The point is not to bend over and take it from fascist overlords who are pulling extra pennies, nickels, and dollars from our pockets when they're living in mansions with fahkin' helicopters in the first place. Make them pay for the luxury of their few extra cents.
Of course, you need to sharpen your pitchforks, too. Although I'm pretty sure you've got a standard issue glock or some other piece of shit 9, or maybe a .44 if you've really got some balls behind all of that misogynistic talk. I mean WE need to sharpen our pitchforks so that a few dozen of us will
absorb the bullets where needed and others will rush over to put the pitchforks into douchebags like you.
We clear? I mean when, and if, somebody quotes this back to me so that you can see it, of course. :)

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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: Khelair to Mro on Tue Jul 15 2014 09:50 pm

Dude shut up, I'm sick of raging at you already. Not sick enough to enemy list you yet, though. ;)
Anyway, yeah, they'll say too bad, of course they will. Any monopoly that owns legions of lawyers will do that. That's not the point. The point is not to bend over and take it from fascist overlords who are pulling extra pennies, nickels, and dollars from our pockets when
they're living in mansions with fahkin' helicopters in the first place. Make them pay for the luxury of their few extra cents.
Of course, you need to sharpen your pitchforks, too. Although I'm
pretty sure you've got a standard issue glock or some other piece of
shit 9, or maybe a .44 if you've really got some balls behind all of
that misogynistic talk. I mean WE need to sharpen our pitchforks so
that a few dozen of us will absorb the bullets where needed and others will rush over to put the pitchforks into douchebags like you.
We clear? I mean when, and if, somebody quotes this back to me so that you can see it, of course. :)

You need to print this and show your doctor... There is alot in this rant that will help him help you...

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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: IB JOE to Khelair on Thu Jul 17 2014 09:07:21

You need to print this and show your doctor... There is alot in this rant t will help him help you...

Why thank you for the kind words, sir.
My doctors already know about what I've seen in the military and
the conclusions that I have come to. They look at them as well-educated opinions based on sound research and experience in the military
environment, as well as some of the connections that I have to military intelligence with my adoptive family.
Anyway, all the stuff you just debated? Look up Chris Hedges
and what he talks about. Then look up his credentials. Then kindly get
back to me about how unfounded my tinfoil hat theories may be.
I love watching eyes open.


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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: IB JOE to Khelair on Thu Jul 17 2014 09:07 am

You need to print this and show your doctor... There is alot in this rant that will help him help you...

Why, so the "doctor" (not physician) can drug away Khelair's brilliance?

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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: Froggyme to IB JOE on Sat Jul 19 2014 10:42 am

Why, so the "doctor" (not physician) can drug away Khelair's brilliance?

I just thought the rant was disjointed and I felt concerned about his health after reading it it. There may be a way to treat this without drugs. Explore all options...

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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: IB JOE to Froggyme on Wed Jul 23 2014 09:21:38

I just thought the rant was disjointed and I felt concerned about his healt after reading it it. There may be a way to treat this without drugs. Explo all options...

When I don't go back and proofread, my shit turns into run-on hell
and word soup sometimes. Now that you've described the nature of my
problem requiring my medical/psychiatric attention, I will be more than
happy to pay more attention to it in the future. Or were you talking
about the content? Because then, frankly, piss off. I'm used to the
ratio of people that call me crazy for what I say. Only a few do it to my face (online is a little different), most just babble to closer friends of mine that _know_ what I've seen, and then they think that that person is crazy, as well.
I'm still gonna talk, bruh. You don't have to like it, or think
it's sane, but I'm going to bear frigging witness to the crap that I know
and have seen regardless. It's utterly selfish as hell to keep that shit
to myself, in my own opinion. I'm giving people that listen, and research
for themselves, a chance that they might not have otherwise had, as the
civil liberties and human rights in this country ebb away.
Namaste'.


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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: IB JOE to Froggyme on Wed Jul 23 2014 09:21 am

Why, so the "doctor" (not physician) can drug away Khelair's brilliance?

I just thought the rant was disjointed and I felt concerned about his health after reading it it. There may be a way to treat this without

that guy has mental problems. super paranoid about the govt as well.
this shit online is embarassing.
i think the media is really bad for people with these issues. it only makes it worse and most mental illnesses get worse with age.
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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: Mro to IB JOE on Thu Jul 24 2014 00:43:01

that guy has mental problems. super paranoid about the govt as well.
this shit online is embarassing.
i think the media is really bad for people with these issues. it only makes worse and most mental illnesses get worse with age.

Oh, and telling a 'guy' like myself that has 'mental problems' on
an issue like this that he needs a 'bullet in his head' like Mro first did before he stopped directly reading my messages is a perfectly tolerable
way to handle this, of course. I mean, why not tell a guy that has
'mental problems' that he needs his brain splattered around by high
velocity copper coated lead?


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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: Khelair to Mro on Thu Jul 24 2014 08:41 am

Oh, and telling a 'guy' like myself that has 'mental problems' on
an issue like this that he needs a 'bullet in his head' like Mro first did

if you would have put a bullet in your head like i said,things
have been better.

less of a burden on others.

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less of a burden on others.

Dun.. dun.. DUUUNNNNNNN!

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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: Mro to IB JOE on Thu Jul 24 2014 12:43 am

that guy has mental problems. super paranoid about the govt as well.

i think the media is really bad for people with these issues. it only makes it worse and most mental illnesses get worse with age.

How's it a mental illness? Having your own ideas, opinions and perceptions is not an illness. To be a drone would be an illness. To not be able to use your own brain would be a pathologic condition.

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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: Jas Hud to Khelair on Thu Jul 24 2014 04:23 pm

Oh, and telling a 'guy' like myself that has 'mental problems' on
an issue like this that he needs a 'bullet in his head' like Mro first
did

if you would have put a bullet in your head like i said,things
have been better.

less of a burden on others.

Are you writing in the style of Mro? I'm confused. That was so hostile.

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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: Jas Hud to Khelair on Thu Jul 24 2014 16:23:49

if you would have put a bullet in your head like i said,things
have been better.

less of a burden on others.

Like you said? There's only one person that I recall that said that, actually. Did you make a new account just to talk with me? ;;) I'm so touched.

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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: Froggyme to Mro on Fri Jul 25 2014 12:30 am

How's it a mental illness? Having your own ideas, opinions and perceptions is not an illness.

uh, pretty obvious in this guy's case.

To be a drone would be an illness.

people arent drones. bees are drones

To not be able to
use your own brain would be a pathologic condition.

whatever, dude.
go back to watching loose change
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On 07/25/14, Froggyme said the following...

Are you writing in the style of Mro? I'm confused. That was so hostile.

He's one of those that can't be happy with one alias, so he uses as many has
he possibly can. :)

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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: Froggyme to Jas Hud on Fri Jul 25 2014 00:45:58

if you would have put a bullet in your head like i said,things
have been better.

less of a burden on others.

Are you writing in the style of Mro? I'm confused. That was so hostile.

It's the 'like I said' part that really makes me wonder. Nobody else told me that I needed a bullet in my head. He didn't say that "I" should've put a bullet in my head, either. He said that I 'needed' one, in a hostile enough manner that it was clear he was talking about putting one in my head, personally.

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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: Mro to Froggyme on Fri Jul 25 2014 18:03:07

How's it a mental illness? Having your own ideas, opinions and
perceptions is not an illness.

uh, pretty obvious in this guy's case.

Maybe if you don't question any of the unverified doctrines that've been handed down by the state to you, Mro. Not that you'll see this, but whatever. Maybe others are getting useful insight on me, too.
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Re: Re: Routers and firmware
By: Access Denied to Froggyme on Sat Jul 26 2014 08:37:00

He's one of those that can't be happy with one alias, so he uses as many has he possibly can. :)

That's what I was thinking.

Funny, I tried that once, when I was 14, and first getting into flame wars on the first BBS I ever logged into. I quickly realized how lame and transparent it was, and never did it again.
How old is Mro now?
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