For many years, I couldn't afford to spend the money on a smartphone.
Most of the time, I used a simple phone that may or may not support
more than simple calling and texting. Usually between 20 and 40
dollars.

Oddly, one of my supervisors couldn't text to my Verizon Wireless
phone. We never did figure out why, and I didn't really feel like
escalating the issue, as we do a lot of texting in our company (at
least, more than I'm used to), so I figured it was time to get a more
capable phone.

I was impressed with how cheap smartphones have gotten. Last time I
looked, the *cheapest* phones tended to be around $300, and at that
price I might as well get a computer. I managed to snag a Kyocera
Hydro Edge phone with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean for about $80. It's
supposed to be water resistant to boot.

I've spent way more money this year than I wanted to on upgrades, but
I'm glad I made this purchase. I can finally ssh to my boxes if I
need to (really need to get a real keyboard addon), read the news
outside where I can smoke and drink my coffee without having to lug
the notebook around (dropped and broke the screen on it -- in the
middle of fixing it soon as I get the proper screwdriver), and I can comfortably read ebooks. And more.

Thank goodness prices are coming down. It amazes me that for $80 I
got GPS navigation, ebook reader, Internet TV/movie/radio player,
phone, things-I'm-forgetting all in one.

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Re: Android Phone
By: Dreamer to All on Thu Apr 24 2014 11:46:00

For many years, I couldn't afford to spend the money on a smartphone.
Most of the time, I used a simple phone that may or may not support
more than simple calling and texting. Usually between 20 and 40
dollars.

Thank goodness prices are coming down. It amazes me that for $80 I
got GPS navigation, ebook reader, Internet TV/movie/radio player,
phone, things-I'm-forgetting all in one.

Yeah, I never really saw much point in having a smart phone when they first came out. When Apple introduced their iPhone, I used to think it was overkill, since all I really wanted in a phone was to be able to make calls and texts. However, the smartphone idea grew on me and I bought my first smart phone a few years ago. It's handy to be able to check email, etc. on the go, but sometimes I wonder if it's a little too convenient - Now there are a lot of people who walk around not looking where they're going because they're looking down at their phone, oblivious to what's going on around them.

Nightfox

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Re: Android Phone
By: Dreamer to All on Thu Apr 24 2014 11:46 am

Thank goodness prices are coming down. It amazes me that for $80 I
got GPS navigation, ebook reader, Internet TV/movie/radio player,
phone, things-I'm-forgetting all in one.

Lose money on the phones, make it up in data charges. :)

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Re: Android Phone
By: Nightfox to Dreamer on Thu Apr 24 2014 08:17 pm

Yeah, I never really saw much point in having a smart phone when they first came out. When Apple introduced their iPhone, I used to think it was overkill, since all I really wanted in a phone was to be able to make calls and texts. However, the smartphone idea grew on me and I bought my first smart phone a few years ago. It's handy to be able to check email,

There are some cheap Android phones on eBay that seem interesting. Wifi and GPRS only - no 3G. Enough to get email/SMS on, not so much that you'll get dinged an arm and a leg for data (like watching Netflix on my iPhone over LTE...)

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Re: Android Phone
By: Dreamer to All on Thu Apr 24 2014 11:46:00

For many years, I couldn't afford to spend the moneyon a smartphone. Most of the time, I used a simple phone that may or may not support more than simple calling and texting. Usually between 20 and 40 dollars.

Thank goodness prices are coming down. It amazes me that for $80 I got GPS navigation, ebook reader, Internet TV/movie/radio player, phone, things-I'm-forgetting all in one.

Yeah, I never really saw much point in having a smart phone when they first came out. When Apple introduced their iPhone, I used to think it wasoverkill, since all I really wanted in a phone was to be able to make calls and texts. However, the smartphone idea grew on meand I bought my first smart phone a few years ago. It's handy to be able to check
email, etc. on the go, but sometimes I wonder if it's a little too convenient - Now there are a lot of people who walk around not looking where they're going because they're looking down at their phone,
oblivious to what's going on around them.

I worry that as we gain more features in a smartphone, we start to lose our basic reason for having a phone; voice communication. I have 3 year old android smart phone and I have to say, the voice caller ability is sometimes very lacking. I have to hangup and call back to get a good connection, or
many times the other guy just can't hear me right. I can always seem to hear them just fine. I know it's an older phone, but it seems to me that it's
been that way since day one.

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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Gryphon to Nightfox on Fri Apr 25 2014 08:35:00

I worry that as we gain more features in a smartphone, we start to lose our basic reason for having a phone; voice communication. I have 3 year old android smart phone and I have to say, the voice caller ability is sometimes very lacking. I have to hangup and call back to get a good connection, or many times the other guy just can't hear me right. I can always seem to hear them just fine. I know it's an older phone, but it seems to me that it's been that way since day one.

I've had the same thought. I remember reading a review for the iPhone a couple years ago that said the same thing - that the phone feature of the iPhone was probably the worst feature of the iPhone. I always thought of a phone as just something that does voice communication (and maybe texting for a cell phone) - so I've often wondered how/why someone came up with the idea for a cell phone to do a lot more than just be a phone.

Nightfox

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Re: Android Phone
By: Dreamer to All on Thu Apr 24 2014 11:46 am

Thank goodness prices are coming down. It amazes me that for $80 I
got GPS navigation, ebook reader, Internet TV/movie/radio player,
phone, things-I'm-forgetting all in one.

i use it to read the news when i'm shitting at work.
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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Nightfox to Gryphon on Fri Apr 25 2014 07:36 am

so I've often wondered how/why someone came up with the idea for a cell phon to do a lot more than just be a phone.

I think the idea was that instead of carrying a PDA, MP3 player, cell phone, and who knows what else, you could carry one device that does everything.
I don't think things like Palm Pilots were that distracting, but I think the access to the internet changed that.


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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Mr. Cool to Nightfox on Tue Apr 29 2014 18:23:26

so I've often wondered how/why someone came up with the idea for a
cell phon to do a lot more than just be a phone.

I think the idea was that instead of carrying a PDA, MP3 player, cell phone, and who knows what else, you could carry one device that does everything. I don't think things like Palm Pilots were that distracting, but I think the access to the internet changed that.

That's probably true.. And interesting that Palm Pilot used to be a fairly big name, but now we hear basically nothing about Palm anymore.

Nightfox

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Nightfox wrote to Dreamer <=-

Yeah, I never really saw much point in having a smart phone when they first came out. When Apple introduced their iPhone, I used to think it was overkill, since all I really wanted in a phone was to be able to
make calls and texts. However, the smartphone idea grew on me and I
bought my first smart phone a few years ago. It's handy to be able to check email, etc. on the go, but sometimes I wonder if it's a little
too convenient - Now there are a lot of people who walk around not
looking where they're going because they're looking down at their
phone, oblivious to what's going on around them.

I think people just aren't using them responsibly. They're not
thinking about anyone but themselves. I just saw a news item on CNN
about a lady who was posting how fantastic her day was, and how happy
she was (not sure what about -- life?), and an instant later she
plowed her car into a dump truck or something.

I got me a nifty bluetooth keyboard, sitting at Waffle House typing
this (I SSH'd into my home box). First thing I did was check the four notifications I got while on the road (emails, all junk). It's
tempting, but I do my best not to fool with my phone on the road. I
don't want to be the cause of anyone else's injury/death, simply to
answer a message that can wait ten minutes.

The only place I walk around with my phone in my face is at home. A
controlled environment.


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Mro wrote to Dreamer <=-

Thank goodness prices are coming down. It amazes me that for $80 I
got GPS navigation, ebook reader, Internet TV/movie/radio player,
phone, things-I'm-forgetting all in one.

i use it to read the news when i'm shitting at work.

Hah! I save the politics section for that. :)

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Gryphon wrote to Nightfox <=-

I worry that as we gain more features in a smartphone, we start to lose our basic reason for having a phone; voice communication. I have 3
year old android smart phone and I have to say, the voice caller
ability is sometimes very lacking. I have to hangup and call back to
get a good connection, or many times the other guy just can't hear me right. I can always seem to hear them just fine. I know it's an older phone, but it seems to me that it's been that way since day one.

It's probably just your phone. I haven't had any problems with this
one, and no one else I've talked to has had problems talking on their
phones. It's one of the reasons I decided to get one.


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Nightfox wrote to Gryphon <=-

I've had the same thought. I remember reading a review for the iPhone
a couple years ago that said the same thing - that the phone feature of the iPhone was probably the worst feature of the iPhone. I always
thought of a phone as just something that does voice communication (and maybe texting for a cell phone) - so I've often wondered how/why
someone came up with the idea for a cell phone to do a lot more than
just be a phone.

The idea's been around since the early eighties, at least in general,
to consolidate devices. The first to do it were smart watches in the seventies. Oddly, people generally hated smart watches.

Smartphones aren't for everyone. My mother wouldn't know what to do
with it...but I haven't touched my computer in about a week. A big
part of that is the fact that I can't smoke in the house, and it's a
lot easier to use my phone outside than the notebook. I watch
television shows, read the news, do this, and more.

If all I wanted to do was talk, I would have just spent ten or twenty
dollars on another flip phone, and cut my bill in half as well.


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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Dreamer to Nightfox on Wed Apr 30 2014 15:10:00

If all I wanted to do was talk, I would have just spent ten or twenty dollars on another flip phone, and cut my bill in half as well.

It seems that cell phone plans are fairly cheap these days. Currently, with a smart phone, I'm paying about the same price I was paying 4 years ago with a flip phone (non-smart).

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Nightfox to Mr. Cool on Wed Apr 30 2014 07:42 am

That's probably true.. And interesting that Palm Pilot used to be a fairly name, but now we hear basically nothing about Palm anymore.

I looked into that a while back. If I remember correctly, they were bought out some time ago, and their brand name is no longer used. Too bad though, I always liked palm pilots.


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I think people just aren't using them responsibly. They're not
thinking about anyone but themselves. I just saw a news item on CNN

Tell me about it.... When I first got my Blackberry, a co-worker had
an iPhone. He was this iPhone fanatic that upgraded every iPhone sincne
day one! I remember Cingular being in the news, because it couldn't
keep up with the data bandwidth because all the 3G iPhone's. They
offered unlimited bandwidth for all smart phones, yet they complain when
folks used their unlimited bandwidth... My co-worker at the time would
play audible books continously through out the entire shift. He would
connect to a local guy's wifi in the early morning, after I got in,
and put his phone in my car to update all his apps, because he didn't
use his home wifi for downloading. He also downloaded his porn,
pirated software, etc. from this guy's wifi that wasn't protected,
so if anyone was to get arrested, it wouldn't be him! Talk about thinking
only about his self...

I got me a nifty bluetooth keyboard, sitting at Waffle House typing
this (I SSH'd into my home box). First thing I did was check the four

Download Hacker's Keyboard for android. You can use a full 84-key PC
keyboard on the android. If you turn the phone sideways (landscape), the
keyboard becomes even better. It's the only keyboard for the android I've
found with F1-12, CTRL, ALT, and cursor key support! Thinking about it,
someone needs to have the guy write a keyboard with PF1-PF4 and other
VT-100 keys... BTW, just a FYI, did you know I write short utility type
apps for Android, and have about 5-6 apps released on the Google Playstore
and amazon markets?

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i use it to read the news when i'm shitting at work.

Hah! I save the politics section for that. :)

Yeah, I was wondering if he really breaks out his phone and pulls out a
news app to read the news while he's on the toilet. And is this such a
ritual that you do it daily? I mean, I can understand every once in a
while, but if you try to go before you go to work, then you reduce the
times you have to go at work. Just wondering...

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I worry that as we gain more features in a smartphone, we start to l our basic reason for having a phone; voice communication. I have 3

Install EchoLink!

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On 05-01-14, John Guillory said the following...

Download Hacker's Keyboard for android. You can use a full 84-key
PC keyboard on the android. If you turn the phone sideways (landscape), the keyboard becomes even better. It's the only keyboardfor the android I've found with F1-12, CTRL, ALT, and cursor key support! Thinking
about it, someone needs to have the guy write a keyboard with PF1-PF4
and other VT-100 keys... BTW, just a FYI, did you know I write short utility type apps for Android, and have about 5-6 apps released on the Google Playstore and amazon markets?

That's awesome. I'm interested in writing my own apps too. I recently installed cyanogenmod on my kindl fire 2. Now I'm learning how to write apps.

What apps did you write?

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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Dreamer to Gryphon on Wed Apr 30 2014 03:00 pm

Gryphon wrote to Nightfox <=-

I worry that as we gain more features in a smartphone, we start to
lose our basic reason for having a phone; voice communication. I have 3
year old android smart phone and I have to say, the voice caller ability is sometimes very lacking. I have to hangup and call back to get a good connection, or many times the other guy just can't hear me right. I can always seem to hear them just fine. I know it's an
older phone, but it seems to me that it's been that way since day one.

It's probably just your phone. I haven't had any problems with this
one, and no one else I've talked to has had problems talking on their phones. It's one of the reasons I decided to get one.

yeah, sounds like a bad phone.
that being said, i dont use my phone for talking much. just when ordering pizzas or something like that. normally i txt my friends.
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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: John Guillory to Dreamer on Wed Apr 30 2014 06:58 pm

Yeah, I was wondering if he really breaks out his phone and pulls out
a
news app to read the news while he's on the toilet. And is this such a
ritual that you do it daily? I mean, I can understand every once in a
while, but if you try to go before you go to work, then you reduce the
times you have to go at work. Just wondering...

i can tell you dont have a smart phone.
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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Mr. Cool to Nightfox on Tue Apr 29 2014 06:23 pm

I think the idea was that instead of carrying a PDA, MP3 player, cell phone, and who knows what else, you could carry one device that does everything. I don't think things like Palm Pilots were that distracting,

Palm Pilots were nice - I'd use them to clip web pages and download books for reading when I was on transit, but they weren't the incessant "I'm in line for 10 seconds, need to check my tweets" distraction that internet devices have become.

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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mr. Cool on Fri May 09 2014 11:45 am

for reading when I was on transit, but they weren't the incessant "I'm in line for 10 seconds, need to check my tweets" distraction that internet devices have become.

i like smartphones. i hate interacting with most people in public.
also great in the bathroom
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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mr. Cool on Fri May 09 2014 11:45 am

Palm Pilots were nice - I'd use them to clip web pages and download books for reading when I was on transit, but they weren't the incessant "I'm in line for 10 seconds, need to check my tweets" distraction that int

Perhaps because twitter didn't exist then? If it had, and palm pilots had an app, it would be the same thing.

This sounds like the same conversations our parents had with us.. 50 years from now our kids will be telling their kids "back in my day we only had one twitter and we had to type everything with our thumbs... that was *real* communication."

:)

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John Guillory wrote to Dreamer <=-

I got me a nifty bluetooth keyboard, sitting at Waffle House typing
this (I SSH'd into my home box). First thing I did was check the four

Download Hacker's Keyboard for android. You can use a full 84-key
PC
keyboard on the android. If you turn the phone sideways
(landscape), the
keyboard becomes even better. It's the only keyboard for the
android I've
found with F1-12, CTRL, ALT, and cursor key support! Thinking about

I like typing on a physical keyboard, and this one has ALT and CTRL...
there is a top row of keys, but they only have symbols, so perhaps no
F-key support... perhaps I should have kept the manual, but hey, it's
a keyboard, right?

it,
someone needs to have the guy write a keyboard with PF1-PF4 and
other
VT-100 keys... BTW, just a FYI, did you know I write short utility type
apps for Android, and have about 5-6 apps released on the Google Playstore
and amazon markets?

Nice. What utilities for Android have you released?

I think people just aren't using them responsibly. They're not
thinking about anyone but themselves. I just saw a news item on CNN

Tell me about it.... When I first got my Blackberry, a co-worker
had
an iPhone. He was this iPhone fanatic that upgraded every iPhone sincne
day one! I remember Cingular being in the news, because it couldn't
keep up with the data bandwidth because all the 3G iPhone's. They
offered unlimited bandwidth for all smart phones, yet they complain when
folks used their unlimited bandwidth... My co-worker at the time
would
play audible books continously through out the entire shift. He
would
connect to a local guy's wifi in the early morning, after I got in,
and put his phone in my car to update all his apps, because he
didn't
use his home wifi for downloading. He also downloaded his porn,
pirated software, etc. from this guy's wifi that wasn't protected,
so if anyone was to get arrested, it wouldn't be him! Talk about thinking
only about his self...

I think people just aren't using them responsibly. They're not
thinking about anyone but themselves. I just saw a news item on CNN

Tell me about it.... When I first got my Blackberry, a co-worker
had
an iPhone. He was this iPhone fanatic that upgraded every iPhone sincne
day one! I remember Cingular being in the news, because it couldn't
keep up with the data bandwidth because all the 3G iPhone's. They
offered unlimited bandwidth for all smart phones, yet they complain when
folks used their unlimited bandwidth... My co-worker at the time
would
play audible books continously through out the entire shift. He
would
connect to a local guy's wifi in the early morning, after I got in,
and put his phone in my car to update all his apps, because he
didn't
use his home wifi for downloading. He also downloaded his porn,
pirated software, etc. from this guy's wifi that wasn't protected,
so if anyone was to get arrested, it wouldn't be him! Talk about thinking
only about his self...

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Nightfox wrote to Dreamer <=-

Re: Android Phone
By: Dreamer to All on Thu Apr 24 2014 11:46:00

For many years, I couldn't afford to spend the money on a smartphone.
Most of the time, I used a simple phone that may or may not support
more than simple calling and texting. Usually between 20 and 40
dollars.

Thank goodness prices are coming down. It amazes me that for $80 I
got GPS navigation, ebook reader, Internet TV/movie/radio player,
phone, things-I'm-forgetting all in one.

Yeah, I never really saw much point in having a smart phone when they first came out. When Apple introduced their iPhone, I used to think it,,. was overkill, since all I really wanted in a phone was to be able to
make calls and texts. However, the smartphone idea grew on me and I
bought my first smart phone a few years ago. It's handy to be able to check email, etc. on the go, but sometimes I wonder if it's a little
too convenient - Now there are a lot of people who walk around not
looking where they're going because they're looking down at their
phone, oblivious to what's going on around them.

Looking around on the phone sounds like a problem. Maybe next time, ask, How can I help you? :)

Sincerely,
Jon Justvig
http://vintagebbsing.com

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Re: Android Phone
By: Dreamer to All on Thu Apr 24 2014 11:46 am

Thank goodness prices are coming down. It amazes me that for $80 I
got GPS navigation, ebook reader, Internet TV/movie/radio player,
phone, things-I'm-forgetting all in one.

i use it to read the news when i'm shitting at work

Sounds like you got some kind of 9 to 5 jobs where you sit on the port every now and then to check stock pricews.

Sincerely,
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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Dreamer to John Guillory on Sat May 17 2014 06:21 pm

I like typing on a physical keyboard, and this one has ALT and CTRL...
there is a top row of keys, but they only have symbols, so perhaps no
F-key support... perhaps I should have kept the manual, but hey, it's
a keyboard, right?

yeah i dont like using a touch screen. on my phone i'm nothing but typos.
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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Jon Justvig to Mro on Sat May 17 2014 10:09 pm

got GPS navigation, ebook reader, Internet TV/movie/radio player,
phone, things-I'm-forgetting all in one.

i use it to read the news when i'm shitting at work

Sounds like you got some kind of 9 to 5 jobs where you sit on the port
every now and then to check stock pricews.

nope, i bust my ass mentally and physically at work.

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I like typing on a physical keyboard, and this one has ALT and CTRL... there is a top row of keys, but they only have symbols, so perhaps no F-key support... perhaps I should have kept the manual, but hey, it's
a keyboard, right?

I really wished they'd include physical keyboards on phones, like they
used to. I was told by my friends how great the iPhone was for hams. Apps didn't seem to crash like on Androids.... So I got one. Now I wished I had
an Android again. So much that I bought a cheap android to test my android apps on.... iPhone really sucks! It's great as long as you only want to
talk on the phone, don't plan to store any pictures or videos, never use any apps, and don't EVER receive text messages! That, and compared to the HTC
One, the camera is kind of like a cave man device. But, other than that,
It's a great way to get rid of a pay check!

Nice. What utilities for Android have you released?

Right now, primarily Ham Related. A few to display information about
what hardware is present, OS version, etc. In case someone wants to know why something's not working on their phone. I had a graphics demo out on google playstore. 'whathavei' is pretty old. 'ham man' I believe is the latest
name of my latest ham app. Sadly, I lost the source code and keystore file
for my original software, so I've started over again. And kinda got busy
with the BBS to the point that I've put the apps on the back burner again.
But I now have Fusion 2 as well as Basic4Android to write apps for Android.

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yeah i dont like using a touch screen. on my phone i'm nothing but typos.

If you had an iPhone, I'd understand fully! At least Androids can change their keyboards out.... Stupid iPhone, folks in the iPhone forums can't understand why someone would find fault in the almighty iPhone... In their eyes, it's a god, because they own one and they're in the clic of the iPhone worshipers... My wife's son's one of those, who think that the iPhone is
the only phone on the market. Stupidest thing I've seen.... He bought the apple Scare plan and refused to trade in his phone when he broke it twirling
it around and dropping it without a case.... I've kept mine in a case and don't do stupid things, it hasn't got the first scratch on it! This hideous keyboard on the iPhone shows all uppercase letters all the time. The only
way you are supposed to know if it's shifted or not is if the shift key is dark. I'd rather have all lower case letters and the shift light than all uppercase. Oh well, my 1 year mark is in August, and who knows, maybe I can live with this horrible phone 1 more year and switch back to AT&T.

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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: John Guillory to Mro on Sun May 18 2014 10:14 am

yeah i dont like using a touch screen. on my phone i'm nothing but typos.

If you had an iPhone, I'd understand fully! At least Androids can change their keyboards out.... Stupid iPhone, folks in the iPhone forums can't understand why someone would find fault in the almighty iPhone... In their

yeah i have an android phone and i've used hacker's keyboard and other ones. the only time i dont do typos is when they switch my typing errors.

but then msgs -> mugs and other dumb words.
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If you had an iPhone, I'd understand fully! At least Androids can change
their keyboards out.... Stupid iPhone, folks in the iPhone forums can't ->understand why someone would find fault in the almighty iPhone... In their ->eyes, it's a god, because they own one and they're in the clic of the iPhone ->worshipers... My wife's son's one of those, who think that the iPhone is ->the only phone on the market. Stupidest thing I've seen.... He bought the ->apple Scare plan and refused to trade in his phone when he broke it twirling ->it around and dropping it without a case.... I've kept mine in a case and ->don't do stupid things, it hasn't got the first scratch on it! This hideous ->keyboard on the iPhone shows all uppercase letters all the time. The only ->way you are supposed to know if it's shifted or not is if the shift key is ->dark. I'd rather have all lower case letters and the shift light than all ->uppercase. Oh well, my 1 year mark is in August, and who knows, maybe I can ->live with this horrible phone 1 more year and switch back to AT&T.

Yeah, I had Cricket for a while then went through three crappy phones and shitty service. Dropped them for T-Mobile and an Samsung Galaxy III. Much much better signal and broadband bandwidth. And the mobile WiFi hotspot feature is nice, too :)

My work phone, however, is a Verizon iPhone 5. I figured it I had to be on call and had to have a phone for work, the company was going to pay for it and not bother me on my personal cell number, so I am carrying 2 cell phones (one smart, one dumb *smiles*) at all times these days it seems.



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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: John Guillory to Dreamer on Sun May 18 2014 10:08 am

back burner again. But I now have Fusion 2 as well as Basic4Android to write apps for Android.

Oh cool, I didn't know about these packages. Do they give you a framework to quickly put together an app? Does Basic4Android let you program Android apps in Basic?

I've always just programed them in Java with the Android SDK under Eclipse.

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Hello John!

18 May 14 10:08, you wrote to Dreamer:

I really wished they'd include physical keyboards on phones, like
they used to. I was told by my friends how great the iPhone was for

That's why I stick with my Blackberry's. At least with the new BB10 phones you can just install Android apps, so the lack of software argument doens't work
anymore.

The ifans and gooers will argue with me but I have a keyboard and they don't.
;)

Shawn


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Oh cool, I didn't know about these packages. Do they give you a
framework to quickly put together an app? Does Basic4Android let you program Android apps in Basic?

I've always just programed them in Java with the Android SDK under Eclipse. ---

It's not a Visual Basic, but it's close. You can open the designer window
and edit your app. You can connect your phone via wi-fi and see how it looks on your phone. When editing the app, the method I prefer use is to take the smallest screen, then create a script in the designer, where you can use code like:

button.left = 0dip
button.right = 40%x
button.top = 0dip
button.bottom = 30%y
label1.top = button.bottom
label1.left = 0dip
label1.right = button.right
label1.height = 30%y


You can click run script, it shows you on screen what it looks like, but you can also click on send to cloud, and it'll upload it to their server and show you a web page with like 6 or 8 different devices. You can then see how
it'll look on a Nexius tablet, a Galaxy 5, and a few other devices. Once you get that setup, you Save it and export your variables to your code. Then you write your code for interacting with the form your button's click events. There's a StartActivity(name) command, etc. for switching to another
activity. A Activity.Finish for when your done with that activity for now.
You can create a service, Activity, library. Beyond that, it's pretty much basic. They include a program to make libraries from java, so you can interface with the various pay/click programs and special hardware, etc. If there's a library out there in Java, you can bet someone has already
converted it, or you can find someone to convert it for you!

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On 05-19-14, Tiny said the following...

Hello John!

18 May 14 10:08, you wrote to Dreamer:

I really wished they'd include physical keyboards on phones, lik they used to. I was told by my friends how great the iPhone was for

That's why I stick with my Blackberry's. At least with the new BB10 phones you can just install Android apps, so the lack of software
argument doens't work
anymore.

The ifans and gooers will argue with me but I have a keyboard and they don't.

A previous employer had given us BBs. They had the keyboard and everyting.
I hated it. The keyboard is not a selling point for me.

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That's why I stick with my Blackberry's. At least with the new BB10 phones you can just install Android apps, so the lack of software
argument doens't work
anymore.

Awe Man! I may have to look into getting a Blackberry! Can you still
run .JAR/.JAD files? That may be something to look into! Can you access the google play store? I've had my heart set on the HTC One, which *EVERYONE* tells me it's not good, they hate it, yet no one can tell me ONE SINGLE THING they hate about it. My wife's best argument is she doesn't like HTC. I
mean, I've seen one in person, the screen's sharp as can be, can zoom in and show detail as if you where right on someone.... Super fast from what I've seen... It beats the heck out of the iPhone! So where's the down falls? I loved the Blackberry's, but some know-it-little store rep told me that Blackberry was no longer going to sell phones to individuals, only to corporations. No more than a month after that, new blackberry's where released! (I hate stupid sales reps that think their word is god!) Like
that bozo blond girl who told me I couldn't run all the apps I was running on my phone, because I didn't have a fast enough cpu to run it. I needed an IPHONE to be able to run all those apps. The joke's on her, I later removed
1 APP that was poorly written, and the system ran fine. Later, I upgraded to her precious iphone. When I made the horrible mistake of recording a video,
I had maybe 1/4 the apps I had on my android, and the phone couldn't even
make phone calls, it was bogged down so much! I barely got it to shut down
and re-boot once I miracalously deleted that video file I took! I tried to save it, but later realized saving the phone was better.... Though it took
much thought as to which I preferred to save...

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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Dreamer to John Guillory on Sat May 17 2014 18:21:00

I think people just aren't using them responsibly. They're not thinking about anyone but themselves. I just saw a news item on CNN

Tell me about it.... When I first got my Blackberry, a co-worker had
an iPhone. He was this iPhone fanatic that upgraded every iPhone sincne

...Hmm the whole message repeats, new meaning for Echo mail?

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Hello John!

19 May 14 14:48, you wrote to me:

Awe Man! I may have to look into getting a Blackberry! Can you still run .JAR/.JAD files? That may be something to look into! Can

No they don't run software for the older < BB10 OS's. Now they are BB10 or Andriod.

you access the google play store? I've had my heart set on the HTC

No google locks that out, You can however access teh amazon store which
is almost as good.

Blackberry's, but some know-it-little store rep told me
that Blackberry was no longer going to sell phones to individuals,

Sales rep probably makes a higher commission on Andriod phones.

took! I tried to save it, but later realized saving the phone was better.... Though it took much thought as to which I preferred to
save...

Geesh.

Shawn


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No google locks that out, You can however access teh amazon store
which is almost as good.

I sell on Amazon, so that's cool too!

Sales rep probably makes a higher commission on Andriod phones.

Apparently, iPhone Sales guarantee her a two story house and sports car
or something...

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I really wished they'd include physical keyboards on phones, like they used to. I was told by my friends how great the iPhone was for hams. Apps didn't seem to crash like on Androids.... So I got one. Now I wished I
had an Android again. So much that I bought a cheap android to test my android apps on.... iPhone really sucks! It's great as long as you only want to talk on the phone, don't plan to store any pictures or videos,
never use any apps, and don't EVER receive text messages! That, and compared to the HTC One, the camera is kind of like a cave man device. But, other than that, It's a great way to get rid of a pay check!

I like having a physical keyboard too. For a while I had an LG Optimus
Slider, which had a physical keyboard under the screen (the screen would slide to the side to reveal the keyboard). I liked the physical keyboard on that phone, but after a while I wanted to upgrade my phone due to lack of space on the LG Optimus. Unfortunately, I don't think any of the decent Android phones include a physical keyboard anymore.

As far as the iPhone, I haven't owned one, but I used to have an iPod Touch, which is similar. I thought it was decent, and I imagine an iPhone would work fairly decently as well. All phones have their pros & cons. I've heard of problems with both the iPhone and Android phones. As far as call quality, I think that depends largely on the service provider. Both Android and iPhone can do phone calls fairly well, as long as the service is good and there's a good signal.

Nightfox

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Re: Android Phone
By: Nightfox to John Guillory on Tue May 20 2014 09:20 am

I really wished they'd include physical keyboards on phones, like the used to. I was told by my friends how great the iPhone was for hams. Ap didn't seem to crash like on Androids.... So I got one. Now I wished I had an Android again. So much that I bought a cheap android to test my android apps on.... iPhone really sucks! It's great as long as you only want to talk on the phone, don't plan to store any pictures or videos, never use any apps, and don't EVER receive text messages! That, and compared to the HTC One, the camera is kind of like a cave man device. Bu other than that, It's a great way to get rid of a pay check!

I like having a physical keyboard too. For a while I had an LG Optimus Slider, which had a physical keyboard under the screen (the screen would sli to the side to reveal the keyboard). I liked the physical keyboard on that phone, but after a while I wanted to upgrade my phone due to lack of space o the LG Optimus. Unfortunately, I don't think any of the decent Android phon include a physical keyboard anymore.

As far as the iPhone, I haven't owned one, but I used to have an iPod Touch, which is similar. I thought it was decent, and I imagine an iPhone would wo fairly decently as well. All phones have their pros & cons. I've heard of problems with both the iPhone and Android phones. As far as call quality, I think that depends largely on the service provider. Both Android and iPhone can do phone calls fairly well, as long as the service is good and there's a good signal.

Nightfox

I thought I wanted one of those slide-out keyboards until I had one. I found them almost as difficult to type on as the on-screen keyboard. Lately I've found that my Android's voice recognition is good enough that I just dictate my messages. I've gotten quite good at the, however I sometimes need to go back and edit out the misunderstandings. It's suprisingly good at interpreting intent, though. It rarely confuses homonyms (like to, two, too). Every once in a while a funny error slips through.

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Re: Android Phone
By: Tempo Rubato to Nightfox on Wed May 21 2014 08:33:00

I thought I wanted one of those slide-out keyboards until I had one. I found them almost as difficult to type on as the on-screen keyboard. Lately I've found that my Android's voice recognition is good enough that I just dictate my messages. I've gotten quite good at the, however I sometimes need to go back and edit out the misunderstandings. It's suprisingly good at interpreting intent, though. It rarely confuses homonyms (like to, two, too). Every once in a while a funny error slips through.

I haven't yet used the voice recognition on my phone yet. I guess I'm just used to typing on the phone.. Also I haven't been really confident that it would be very accurate. I've texted with people who use voice recognition for their messages, and often their messages come out barely understandable because there are many misunderstood words.

Nightfox

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John Guillory wrote to Tiny <=-

I sell on Amazon, so that's cool too!

It's got pretty much everything so I feel like I'm not missing
any Andriod games.

Sales rep probably makes a higher commission on Andriod phones.

Apparently, iPhone Sales guarantee her a two story house and
sports car or something...

Laugh. I bet you are right.

Shawn


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Re: Android Phone
By: Tempo Rubato to Nightfox on Wed May 21 2014 08:33 am

Lately I've found that my Android's voice recognition is good enough that I just dictate my messages. I've gotten quite good at the, however I sometimes need to go back and edit out the misunderstandings. It's suprisingly good at interpreting intent, though. It rarely confuses homonyms (like to, two, too). Every once in a while a funny error slips through.

Any hints on how to get it to work? Last night I ssh'd into sdf.org on my Android and entered the "Commode", and tried dictation for fun. It was writing really rediculous things!

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Re: Android Phone
By: Nightfox to John Guillory on Tue May 20 2014 08:20 am

I like having a physical keyboard too. For a while I had an LG Optimus Slider, which had a physical keyboard under the screen (the screen would sli to the side to reveal the keyboard). I liked the physical keyboard on that phone, but after a while I wanted to upgrade my phone due to lack of space o the LG Optimus. Unfortunately, I don't think any of the decent Android phon include a physical keyboard anymore.

I had a Samsung Gravity T (not a smart phone) which had a slide out keyboard like that. I like it much better then the on-screen keyboard. If you put your finger over a key by mistake, it won't enter it. When I finally got a smart phone, I almost got one with a similar keyboard, but I wanted to have a protective case for it and there were none made for a phone like that.


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Re: Android Phone
By: Nightfox to Tempo Rubato on Wed May 21 2014 08:56 am

I haven't yet used the voice recognition on my phone yet. I guess I'm just used to typing on the phone.. Also I haven't been really confident that it would be very accurate. I've texted with people who use voice recognition f their messages, and often their messages come out barely understandable beca there are many misunderstood words.

The voice recognition has gotten very much better as it's no longer done on the phone but on a server somewhere. It does make mistakes but a little editing is all that's needed.

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Re: Android Phone
By: Nightfox to John Guillory on Tue May 20 2014 08:20 am

I really wished they'd include physical keyboards on phones, like the used to. I was told by my friends how great the iPhone was for hams. Ap didn't seem to crash like on Androids.... So I got one. Now I wished I had an Android again. So much that I bought a cheap android to test my android apps on.... iPhone really sucks! It's great as long as you only want to talk on the phone, don't plan to store any pictures or videos, never use any apps, and don't EVER receive text messages! That, and

That's what the bluetooth is for. That and to have something else to sell you ;) Same with most Androids as well. Case, Stand, Keyboard, maybe even a mouse so they can make some money on you ;)

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Re: Android Phone
By: Froggyme to Tempo Rubato on Wed May 21 2014 10:23 am

Lately I've found that my Android's voice recognition is good enough th I just dictate my messages. I've gotten quite good at the, however I

Any hints on how to get it to work? Last night I ssh'd into sdf.org on my Android and entered the "Commode", and tried dictation for fun. It was writ really rediculous things!

Yup! That's normal for most people. The people that talk to it in the car are the best, really scrambled messages: Doctor Donuts called to ...(add in any silly group of unrelated words). For some people in a quite enviroment it works fine, otherwise, not so good. That's what the bluetooth is for (Keyboards).

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I had a Samsung Gravity T (not a smart phone) which had a slide out
keyboard like that. I like it much better then the on-screen keyboard. If you put your finger over a key by mistake, it won't enter it. When I finally got a smart phone, I almost got one with a similar keyboard, but I wanted to have a protective case for it and there were none made for a
phone like that.

I like having a protective case too, but I'm not sure how important it really is to have one. Sure, a phone is going to get scratched a bit over time, but that doesn't really affect the usability of the phone, and you'll probably end up getting a new phone long before your current phone is too beat up to work anymore.

Nightfox

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The voice recognition has gotten very much better as it's no longer done on the phone but on a server somewhere. It does make mistakes but a little editing is all that's needed.

I've heard that sending it to a server can help because a server is often more powerful than a smart phone. However, that tends to slow down the
processsince your voice would have to be transmitted to a server, processed, and then sent back to your phone. Also, if you're out of range and don't have a signal, then it wouldn't work at all. It would be good to have a phone that's powerful enough to do good voice recognition itself without having to send it to a server first, so that it would be both accurate and fast.

Nightfox

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Re: Android Phone
By: Nightfox to John Guillory on Tue May 20 2014 08:20 am

I really wished they'd include physical keyboards on phones, like the used to. I was told by my friends how great the iPhone was for hams. Ap didn't seem to crash like on Androids.... So I got one.
Now I wished I had an Android again. So much that I bought a cheap android to test my android apps on.... iPhone really sucks! It's great as long as you only want to talk on the phone, don't plan to store any pictures or videos, never use any apps, and don't EVER receive text messages! That, and

That's what the bluetooth is for. That and to have something else to sell you ;) Same with most Androids as well. Case, Stand, Keyboard, maybe even a mouse so they can make some money on you ;)

Why are you sending this to me when you quoted someone else? I did not write that text. ;)

Nightfox

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John Guillory wrote to Dreamer <=-

android to test my android apps on.... iPhone really sucks! It's
great as long as you only want to talk on the phone, don't plan to
store any pictures or videos, never use any apps, and don't EVER
receive text messages! That, and compared to the HTC One, the camera
is kind of like a cave man device. But, other than that, It's a great
way to get rid of a pay check!

Yeah, I was reading on Slashdot or somewhere that there was some kind
of problem with people getting iPhones, and later switching away
having problems receiving text messages. Something about the
messaging platform that they use? Apparently it's rather common that
text messages continue going to Apple's network even after moving to
another carrier. The only way to solve it is to call Apple, and even
then the change doesn't always take. They admit they've been working
on it, but have no solution yet.

Nice. What utilities for Android have you released?

Right now, primarily Ham Related. A few to display information
about what hardware is present, OS version, etc. In case someone wants
to know why something's not working on their phone. I had a graphics
demo out on google playstore. 'whathavei' is pretty old. 'ham man' I believe is the latest name of my latest ham app. Sadly, I lost the
source code and keystore file for my original software, so I've started over again. And kinda got busy with the BBS to the point that I've put the apps on the back burner again. But I now have Fusion 2 as well as Basic4Android to write apps for Android.

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ROBERT WOLFE wrote to JOHN GUILLORY <=-

Yeah, I had Cricket for a while then went through three crappy phones
and shitty service. Dropped them for T-Mobile and an Samsung Galaxy
III. Much much better signal and broadband bandwidth. And the mobile WiFi hotspot feature is nice, too :)

I decided to get mine cheap, and went to Wal-Mart. I wasn't planning
on getting a smartphone, figured I'd get a $20 to $40 phone and
prepaid plan. But, then I saw how cheap the smartphones were, and I
picked up this Android for something like eighty bux, and it's through
Boost Mobile. I've used Boost before, they use the Sprint network,
which is decent around here. Not as good as Verizon, but definitely
good for the price.

What I love about this thing is the ability to use it for anything I
want. I haven't had a single complaint about bandwidth; the signal
can get low where I live, but I've never had a problem with a call
yet. And, after installing an app, I can use it as a hotspot. I
haven't tried that out, yet, though.



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Re: Android Phone
By: Bcw142 to Froggyme on Thu May 22 2014 01:09 pm

Lately I've found that my Android's voice recognition is good enough I just dictate my messages. I've gotten quite good at the, however

Any hints on how to get it to work? Last night I ssh'd into sdf.org on m Android and entered the "Commode", and tried dictation for fun. It was w really rediculous things!

Yup! That's normal for most people. The people that talk to it in the car ar the best, really scrambled messages: Doctor Donuts called to ...(add in any silly group of unrelated words). For some people in a quite enviroment it wo fine, otherwise, not so good. That's what the bluetooth is for (Keyboards).

I just use the built-in microphone icon on the home page or from the keyboard. Try it. The 4.1 version is way, way better than the earlier ones. I bet the newer versions are even better.

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Re: Android Phone
By: Nightfox to Mr. Cool on Thu May 22 2014 01:34 pm

I like having a protective case too, but I'm not sure how important it reall is to have one. Sure, a phone is going to get scratched a bit over time, bu that doesn't really affect the usability of the phone, and you'll probably e up getting a new phone long before your current phone is too beat up to work anymore.

I didn't bother with a case either until I dropped my previous phone (for the umpteenth time) and had it find just the right corner impact to crack the screen. Of course it was about a week over it's no-fault warranty. I then went to Amazon and bought a "turtle" for its replacement. It's pretty impressive and doesn't affect the usability of the phone much at all. The screen is entirely accessable and each of the hard buttons are operated by an external extension. I think the turtle case, stylus, screen protector package was only about $10.00. It came in an amazing number of styles and colors.

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Re: Android Phone
By: Nightfox to Tempo Rubato on Thu May 22 2014 01:37 pm

a signal, then it wouldn't work at all. It would be good to have a phone that's powerful enough to do good voice recognition itself without having to send it to a server first, so that it would be both accurate and fast.

I haven't looked but I bet there's an app for that.

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Re: Android Phone
By: Nightfox to Mr. Cool on Thu May 22 2014 12:34 pm

I had a Samsung Gravity T (not a smart phone) which had a slide out
keyboard like that. I like it much better then the on-screen

I agree with the keyboard thing. I currently own a Samsung Stratospere with the pull out keyboard. It still sits in the drawer.I just couldn't get the hang of it. After using it for 8 months I quit using it and canceled the service. I found myself doing all my messaging on the PC. It didn't make sense to shell out all that cash for 4g service. Can't teach an old dog new tricks I guess
;-)


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Re: Android Phone
By: Heliarc to Nightfox on Thu May 22 2014 19:21:48

I had a Samsung Gravity T (not a smart phone) which had a slide out
keyboard like that. I like it much better then the on-screen

I agree with the keyboard thing. I currently own a Samsung Stratospere

FYI, even though you were replying to me, you were quoting someone else.. I didn't write the above text that you quoted.

Nightfox

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In a reply from Bcw142 on 12:03 about Android Phone

Please goto your scfg-networking-qwk networking-default tagline, and
put in the name of your bbs & telnet address (now if your not the sysop there, let him know)

I know you intend to do good and thanks for the reminder, but it wasn't his tagline that was messed up, it was mine. I had forgot to set it. I'm still tweaking things and doing some customization and that one slipped through. If you still see it messed up, let me know.

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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Dreamer to ROBERT WOLFE on Wed May 21 2014 05:29 pm

I decided to get mine cheap, and went to Wal-Mart. I wasn't planning
on getting a smartphone, figured I'd get a $20 to $40 phone and
prepaid plan. But, then I saw how cheap the smartphones were, and I
picked up this Android for something like eighty bux, and it's through
Boost Mobile. I've used Boost before, they use the Sprint network,
which is decent around here. Not as good as Verizon, but definitely
good for the price.

What I love about this thing is the ability to use it for anything I
want. I haven't had a single complaint about bandwidth; the signal
can get low where I live, but I've never had a problem with a call
yet. And, after installing an app, I can use it as a hotspot. I
haven't tried that out, yet, though.

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Please goto your scfg-networking-qwk networking-default tagline, and put in the name of your bbs & telnet address (now if your not the sysop there, let him know)

I know you intend to do good and thanks for the reminder,

your welcome

but it wasn't his tagline that was messed up, it was mine.

ok

I had forgot to set it.

bad you

I'm
still tweaking things and doing some customization and that one slipped through.

ok

If you still see it messed up, let me know.

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Re: Android Phone
By: Tempo Rubato to Bcw142 on Thu May 22 2014 05:20 pm

Any hints on how to get it to work? Last night I ssh'd into sdf.org
on m Android and entered the "Commode", and tried dictation for fun.
It was w really rediculous things!

Yup! That's normal for most people. The people that talk to it in the
car ar the best, really scrambled messages: Doctor Donuts called to
...(add in any silly group of unrelated words). For some people in a
quite enviroment it wo fine, otherwise, not so good. That's what the
bluetooth is for (Keyboards).

I just use the built-in microphone icon on the home page or from the keyboard. Try it. The 4.1 version is way, way better than the earlier ones. I bet the newer versions are even better.

Well, mine was 4.2.2. Maybe I just wasn't speaking clearly enough. Diction!

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Re: Android Phone
By: Froggyme to Tempo Rubato on Fri May 23 2014 12:31 pm

I just use the built-in microphone icon on the home page or from the keyboard. Try it. The 4.1 version is way, way better than the earlier ones. I bet the newer versions are even better.

Well, mine was 4.2.2. Maybe I just wasn't speaking clearly enough. Diction

I just use a normal speaking voice. I have learned to speak punction, though. As in "How are you 'period.' I am fine" Otherwise words can get run together.

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Dreamer wrote to John Guillory <=-

Yeah, I was reading on Slashdot or somewhere that there was some kind
of problem with people getting iPhones, and later switching away
having problems receiving text messages. Something about the
messaging platform that they use? Apparently it's rather common that
text messages continue going to Apple's network even after moving to another carrier. The only way to solve it is to call Apple, and even
then the change doesn't always take. They admit they've been working
on it, but have no solution yet.

I think I know what your referring to... Simple solution actually.
The problem is their friends had iPhones, and they used the iMessage
to send text messages via wifi. Their friends phones saved their
e-mail and phone number in their phone's contacts for them, so when
they try to message them again, their friends phone says "Hey, I can
connect quicker by sending a message to apple with this address..."
All they have to do is download the iCloud app I think it is for windows
and remove their phone number from their account, then add their new
phone number, or just leave it off... Then any future messages will
go to their new phone... It makes sense when you think about it...

Sweet.

Reading up on the various web based telnet apps (flash, java, html, etc)
got me to thinking... I should look into the html and see about
writing an app that allows me to see what it's sending and receiving.
Maybe I can make a telnet client on the phone that's not so small...
and ackward. I know, there's plenty of telnet clients for android.
but none quite like I like. Who knows, maybe when I look into more
programming after wednesday, I can see about making my own telnet
app.... Not sure if there's any easy libraries out there for direct
internet socket support... But the newest compiler allows you to just
drop in java jar files to add un-supported libraries to your program now.
That opens the doors to a lot of opportunities! I have a small java
library that I wrote myself of basic math type libraries. If I could
find out some of the telnet or socket routines, I could add them in.
Most terminals support only ANSI, wouldn't it be neat to support
Avatar, ANSI, VT-100, and RIP! If I could get the complete specs for
RIP and make a basic telnet app, then it'd seem easy enough to make
a RIP terminal for your phone. The nice thing about a RIP (or WIP)
terminal is that it'd probably be easier to see on the tiny screen!


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Bcw142 wrote to Nightfox <=-

I really wished they'd include physical keyboards on phones, like the used to. I was told by my friends how great the iPhone was for hams. Ap didn't seem to crash like on Androids.... So I got one. Now I wished I had an Android again. So much that I bought a cheap android to test my android apps on.... iPhone really sucks! It's great as long as you only want to talk on the phone, don't plan to store any pictures or videos, never use any apps, and don't EVER receive text messages! That, and

That's what the bluetooth is for. That and to have something else to
sell you ;) Same with most Androids as well. Case, Stand, Keyboard,
maybe even a mouse so they can make some money on you ;)

I'd rather not have to pack an extra keyboard around. Not at all the
same thing! I can't shove a bluetooth keyboard in my pocket with my
phone, I can't just hold the bluetooth keyboard up while walking in
the store and type on it at the same time. A bluetooth keyboard isn't
a solution, it's almost a band-aid for the problem. The solution is
to put the keyboard where it belongs.

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I like having a protective case too, but I'm not sure how important it really is to have one. Sure, a phone is going to get scratched a bit
over time, but that doesn't really affect the usability of the phone,
and you'll probably end up getting a new phone long before your current phone is too beat up to work anymore.

Now this depends on several factors... It depends on how you treat your
phone, the phone its self, and how well you protect it. A lot of my
androids would fend for themselves without a case at all pretty darn
good! My step-son thinks you have to twirl your phone around and toss
it in the air, etc. and oh my gosh, I dropped it! eventually you'll
toss it and drop it in the wrong place and there goes the screen!
I do like the fact that the iPhone is the only phone that Otterbox
makes a super nice case for! Sure, I had an android with an otterbox
case, but it's a far cry from the iPhone otterbox! The iPhone otterbox
seals your phone in a plastic case w/ protective screen cover, then
wraps it in a rubber case to prevent most shock from damaging it.
the plastic case and screen protector pretty much covers you from it
getting damaged when you run out to check the mail in the rain, or
snap a picture quickly of something in a light rain or something.
I had a back-flip that was really smart designed, but needed to be bigger
and sadly, it never really caught on to make a better version. Ugh!
I loved that phone, but it got so darn bogged down easily!
It had a keyboard that flips out. You start out with the keyboard
facing the back of the phone. It's on hinges so you can flip it out, and
the keyboard will then be directly under the screen facing up.
But there's a couple of cool features hidden right there!
You only have one camera, but with that single camera, if you wanted
to take a selfie, just flip the keyboard out, and since the camera is
mounted on the keyboard, it's now facing you to the left of the
keyboard! And since most phones use a lower resolution camera for
front-facing, this allows you to get away with a better front-facing
camera while costing less money, since you only need 1 camera!
Also (less used, often forgotten) behind the main screen when the
isn't folded up, you can slide your finger behind the screen and
it then becomes basically a mouse... You can move the screen up and
down, right or left, etc. and position the cursor with your finger!
The keyboard had full cursor keys, number keys, etc. everything but
function keys! It was a very nice keyboard! I loved the phone!
It'd be better if it was faster, bigger, and even nicer if they
still made them!
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yet. And, after installing an app, I can use it as a hotspot. I
haven't tried that out, yet, though.

Check and see how much it cost you first. Eg. my plan they charge
you $20 for I think 1 day or so many gigabytes, after that, they
charge you so much a gigabyte until the next day....
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Tempo Rubato wrote to Nightfox <=-

I didn't bother with a case either until I dropped my previous phone
(for the umpteenth time) and had it find just the right corner impact
to crack the screen. Of course it was about a week over it's no-fault warranty. I then went to Amazon and bought a "turtle" for its

Go to youtube and look for a video review of the HTC-One!
There's one where a guy takes a Hammer and smashes the front of the
phone with a Hammer, and it just bounces off the case, no cracks!
He had to litterally use the claw portions of the hammer, and hit
it really really hard to get a minor scratch! Now the back of the
case is a different story! It's not quite as strong as the screen,
but still looks like a rugged phone! And the graphics and sound
kicks butt! Its what I want on my next phone!
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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: KF5QEO to Dreamer on Sun May 25 2014 01:15 pm

yet. And, after installing an app, I can use it as a hotspot. I haven't tried that out, yet, though.

Check and see how much it cost you first. Eg. my plan they charge
you $20 for I think 1 day or so many gigabytes, after that, they
charge you so much a gigabyte until the next day....

i'm on straighttalk and i have *unlimited

i get about 3gigs a month now but no extra charges
they just knock your speed down until the next month if you go nuts
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Re: Android Phone
By: Tempo Rubato to Froggyme on Sat May 24 2014 07:06 am

I just use the built-in microphone icon on the home page or from
the keyboard. Try it. The 4.1 version is way, way better than the
earlier ones. I bet the newer versions are even better.

Well, mine was 4.2.2. Maybe I just wasn't speaking clearly enough.
Diction

I just use a normal speaking voice. I have learned to speak punction, though. As in "How are you 'period.' I am fine" Otherwise words can get run together.

It's working for me now! I don't know what I'm doing differently, but it really works. It's fun talking to a Unix terminal host.

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My work phone, however, is a Verizon iPhone 5. I figured it I had to be
on call and had to have a phone for work, the company was going to pay
for it and not bother me on my personal cell number, so I am carrying 2 cell phones (one smart, one dumb *smiles*) at all times these days it seems.

I used to carry two phones, also. Then started using Google Voice and installed that on my work cell phone. That is now what I use for my personal cell phone number and only carry the single phone.

Not anything fancy - old Blackberry. I would get a Samsung Android if I was getting something, but can't complain since this phone is free.

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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Mark Hofmann to Robert Wolfe on Sat May 31 2014 08:30 pm

I used to carry two phones, also. Then started using Google Voice and installed that on my work cell phone. That is now what I use for my persona cell phone number and only carry the single phone.

We were using Google Voice via an app called Talkatone for iOS so my wife could make and receive calls on our iPad.

But this week Google shut off third-party access to Google Voice. That sucked, but I heard the Hangouts app provides the same Voice functinality.

I was eager to try it out. The first step (alas) was changing my wife's Gmail into a Google Plus account.

Try as we might, though, we couldn't get Google to do it. Apparently she mistyped her birth year when she set up her Gmail, and this bad year is preventing her from upgrading the account.

I wrote in more detail about this on my blog. It's pretty ridiculous.

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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Kirkman to Mark Hofmann on Sun Jun 01 2014 04:23 pm

I was eager to try it out. The first step (alas) was changing my wife's Gmail into a Google Plus account.

Try as we might, though, we couldn't get Google to do it. Apparently she mistyped her birth year when she set up her Gmail, and this bad year is preventing her from upgrading the account.

i read your blog. you probably triggered one of google's protection schemes
by 'battling' with it.

i'm surprised to see that she's being prompted for personal info.
i am asked all the time to convert to google plus on another acct and it doesnt show that.

i've also converted some other gmail accts recently to google plus and didnt get a sex and BD confirmation.

you should have her just make another account for using google voice, if it's that important.
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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: John Guillory to Dreamer on Sun May 18 2014 10:08 am

I really wished they'd include physical keyboards on
phones, like they used to. I was told by my friends how
great the iPhone was for hams. Apps didn't seem to crash
like on Androids.... So I got one. Now I wished I had an
Android again. So much that I bought a cheap android to
test my android apps on.... iPhone really sucks! It's
great as long as you only want to talk on the phone, don't
plan to store any pictures or videos, never use any apps,
and don't EVER receive text messages! That, and compared
to the HTC One, the camera is kind of like a cave man
device. But, other than that, It's a great way to get rid
of a pay check!

I am mighty confused how yiu have come to the conclusion that
iPhone is so bad that its only good for phone calls, but isn't
capable of pictures, videos, apps or text messages. How absurd!
These are basic staples of the platform and it handles them
perfectly. You would really need to bash your own head in with
a steel pole a few hundred times before you wouldn't be ab
e to use the features properly.

Not only does it do text messages, but it does free iMessages
in the same app seamlessly. It has been awarded by countless
photography industry organizations for its ability to take
photos and videos, and in over 5 years i have taken well over
25GB of photos and videos myself, generally flawlessly. And the
iOS platform has the best apps and games, Android doesnt come
close. As a developer myself, I can assure you that iOS
development is much more rewarding than Android is, as most
Android users are tighter with their pocketbooks and less
likely to part with a few bucks for your apps. There are
countless reports and statistics on the net proving this.

I realize that you might have had a bad personal experience
with it or perhaps you disagree with the philosophies of the
platform, and I'm not here to tell you that didn't happen or
that you are wrong about your experience. But most people don't
experience what you have, power users included.

True haptic keyboards that have physical response and texture
are coming in the near future! Hard surfaces that change on
demand. I look forward to that!

Cheers,
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KF5QEO wrote to Bcw142 <=-

I'd rather not have to pack an extra keyboard around. Not at all
the
same thing! I can't shove a bluetooth keyboard in my pocket with
my
phone, I can't just hold the bluetooth keyboard up while walking
in
the store and type on it at the same time. A bluetooth keyboard
isn't
a solution, it's almost a band-aid for the problem. The solution
is
to put the keyboard where it belongs.

I keep a backpack in my car with miscellaneous things for myself and
my kids. For most things, my touchscreen is pretty awesome. It took
a while to get used to "swiping"... I was so used to predictive --
T9 -- texting, but after forcing myself to use it for an entire day I
can send a text as fast or faster than ever.

When I have an hour or two somewhere, I just bring my pack and pull
out the keyboard so I can pull a QWK packet and catch up.




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Froggyme wrote to Tempo Rubato <=-

I just use a normal speaking voice. I have learned to speak punction, though. As in "How are you 'period.' I am fine" Otherwise words can get run together.

It's working for me now! I don't know what I'm doing differently, but
it really works. It's fun talking to a Unix terminal host.

LOL, that wouldn't work for me. I tend to log in when other people
are around me. I can see it now, the strange looks as I issue UNIX
commands and talk random BBS and Fidonet speak. ;)


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Mark Hofmann wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

I used to carry two phones, also. Then started using Google Voice and installed that on my work cell phone. That is now what I use for my personal cell phone number and only carry the single phone.

I also use Voice. At the moment, employees as well as friends and
family have my voice number; no one has my direct line.

An interesting thing happened a couple days ago. A little background:
I'm a manager at Waffle House, and I recently got pulled to five ten
hour night shifts a week due to staffing issues at one of our
restaurants (plus reports of typical nighttime probs, like theft and
drugs). I just started the nights this last week, and the first
several shifts were exhausting until I got used to the new schedule.

Saturday morning I leave work and spend several hours with my kids
before I start getting ready for bed. I get a text message from a
number I don't recognize, claiming to be "katie", and she needs me to
come in early instead of 1pm. We text back and forth a few times: I'm
like, OK, but I'll probably need the third off (third shift), and I'm
talking about I didn't realize I was scheduled for the second, she's
acting confused but that's not unusual for the Katie I work with. I
finally throw a fresh uniform on go back to work to figure out what's
going on.

My Katie never texted me. At first we thought the entire thing was a
prank, until I get home and research the number on Google. Turns out,
there's another Katie in the SAME SMALL TOWN, working in the same
industry (food service), who just happened to transpose two digits and
text me. Only reason I figured that out is she once had a home
business selling cakes and I found a stale reference to it and her
number on an old webpage. My upper management called her later on to
find out who was "pranking" me, and found that she works for McDonald's.

I wish they hadn't, I was having fun watching the text messages come
in as the person they were trying to reach not only didn't come in
early, but failed to report to work. LOL... I also noticed *after* I
got home that the messages were coming in on my direct line, NOT my
Voice -- *no one* has my direct line, that should have been my first
hint.


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I wish they hadn't, I was having fun watching the text messages come
in as the person they were trying to reach not only didn't come in
early, but failed to report to work. LOL... I also noticed *after* I
got home that the messages were coming in on my direct line, NOT my
Voice -- *no one* has my direct line, that should have been my first
hint.

Same here, I never give out my real cell phone number. Mainly because it is my
work cell and I don't own it. I can move my Google Voice number to another phone if the situation presents itself that I need to do that.

Small world on the text. I get the occational wrong number on my real cell phone number. I never answer them, since I never give that number out and know
it can't be anyone I know.

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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Mark Hofmann to Dreamer on Thu Jun 05 2014 06:22 pm

Small world on the text. I get the occational wrong number on my real cell phone number. I never answer them, since I never give that number out and know it can't be anyone I know.

it's black people. they never use fucking address books on their phone.
people have been trying to hit up t-bone on my cell for a long time.
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I used to carry two phones, also. Then started using Google Voice and ->installed that on my work cell phone. That is now what I use for my personal
cell phone number and only carry the single phone.

Not anything fancy - old Blackberry. I would get a Samsung Android if I was ->getting something, but can't complain since this phone is free.

I use the wifi hotspot feature on my Galaxy 3 quite often when on the road or at a client who does not have wifi Internet access so that I can access our ticketing system from the site. The personal WiFi hotspot and tethering features are what sold me.



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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: ROBERT WOLFE to MARK HOFMANN on Sun Jun 08 2014 09:29 am

our ticketing system from the site. The personal WiFi hotspot and
tethering features are what sold me.

hate to break this to you, but you can do that with any android device.
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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Mro to Mark Hofmann on Fri Jun 06 2014 17:00:43

Re: Re: Android Phone
By: Mark Hofmann to Dreamer on Thu Jun 05 2014 06:22 pm

Small world on the text. I get the occational wrong number on my real c phone number. I never answer them, since I never give that number out a know it can't be anyone I know.

it's black people. they never use fucking address books on their phone. people have been trying to hit up t-bone on my cell for a long time.

I'm really hoping that's some tongue-in-cheek shit.

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hate to break this to you, but you can do that with any android device.

Well, depends on what version of Android OS you are talking about and if
you need a third party app to do that like I used to have to do. Then
again, those were the shitty ole days when I had Cricket. Dumped them
like a bad date and switched to T-Mobile. Much, much better service and
a better phone.



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I am mighty confused how yiu have come to the conclusion that
iPhone is so bad that its only good for phone calls, but isn't
capable of pictures, videos, apps or text messages. How absurd!
These are basic staples of the platform and it handles them
perfectly. You would really need to bash your own head in with
a steel pole a few hundred times before you wouldn't be ab
e to use the features properly.

Not hard at all to say that. I tried to take a video while I was on
the phone, the stupid piece of junk only takes pictures while on the
phone! The apps (despite the script kiddies in the forums) do not have
any real form of multi-tasking abilities! It operates much like the
Windows phone, which was really easy to keep from crashing, because
every time you launched another app, it suspended everything else until
you went back to it! No replaceable keyboards, and the built in
keyboard is a piece of junk! The lack of ability to use an SD card is a
major design flaw. I've had way better text messaging apps come default
with andoid phones. The e-mail client makes you want to browse the web
and use it for e-mail, its so laim! Good thing there are plenty of third
party replacements!

Not only does it do text messages, but it does free iMessages
in the same app seamlessly. It has been awarded by countless
photography industry organizations for its ability to take
photos and videos, and in over 5 years i have taken well over
25GB of photos and videos myself, generally flawlessly. And the

Probably not while on the phone! Also, that's another thing, I've
yet to see any replacement camera apps... They might have a few, but
not like they do for Android... Awards by companies Apple pays doesn't
cut much mustard with me! Much like Microsoft bragging on some of their claims... Easy to win an award when your the only company allowed to
enter!

iOS platform has the best apps and games, Android doesnt come
close. As a developer myself, I can assure you that iOS
development is much more rewarding than Android is, as most
Android users are tighter with their pocketbooks and less
likely to part with a few bucks for your apps. There are
countless reports and statistics on the net proving this.

Being able to scam users doesn't make it a good platform! By your
grounds, windows 8.1 is the best operating system in the world! Yes,
I admit, there are a lot of apps on the appstore that put the purchase
button up really quick and the moment you hit it, it ask for your
password and if typed in, will charge you for an in-app purchase you
didn't want! Oh sure, Apple told them they had to stop, but I've got
a Jackpot casino game that keeps doning it!

I realize that you might have had a bad personal experience
with it or perhaps you disagree with the philosophies of the
platform, and I'm not here to tell you that didn't happen or
that you are wrong about your experience. But most people don't
experience what you have, power users included.

So far the only experience I really hate is the way the cheap text
messaging app al the suddenly forgets the names of all my contacts, and
the phone app forgets who everyone is, despite the fact that it can find
all my contacts in the contacts app, when you list who called I get
nothing but a bunch of phone numbers. Look in the message app and
nothing but phone numbers. Write a new message, no contacts found!
Wait 30 minutes, and wow! You remembered who all these people are!
Yes, its such a handy device, as long as you don't mind carrying around
a notebook with all your phone numbers, a camera to take videos while
your on your phone (or tell who your talking to get the heck off the
phone so I can video this guy getting robbed!)

True haptic keyboards that have physical response and texture
are coming in the near future! Hard surfaces that change on
demand. I look forward to that!

Oh boy, can't wait! I mean, they existed when I had my Windows
phone, it'd be great to see them re-invent them and call it a new
feature!


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So far the only experience I really hate is the way the cheap text messaging app al the suddenly forgets the names of all my contacts,

and

What phone is this again???

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So far the only experience I really hate is the way the cheap text messaging app al the suddenly forgets the names of all my contacts,

and

What phone is this again???

The phone that gets senile is the iPhone 4s, though most of the other
symptoms I find on my step son's 5s as well... Basically as I've said,
I'm not at all impressed with the iphone line! Too many things you
can't do that I CAN do with an Android! But because most iPhone owners
spent so much money for their iphones, then got scammed into buying the
apple scare plan, because they're told how often the kiddies break their
phones screens by throwing them in the air, twirling them, or just not remembering where they left them... (I was in the store one day and this
dingie blonde girl was telling how she has to buy a new iphone 4 times a
year!) Wow! If that'd be me, I would be too ashamed to admit it!
Before I moved to mississippi, I've upgraded my phones a few times, but
only because I wanted a better phone. Each time, I held on to my old
phone, and swapped back and forth to test apps on them, by switching out
the sim card. When I moved to mississippi, we got a windows phone.
While it ran smoothly, some features I liked, but it lacked at the time
the ability to send videos via messaging. We eventually switched to
Cspire, because my wife thought it was the best company ever, and
everyone claims their so much cheaper. BIG mistake there! Gosh,
they're so cheap, you have to pay $16 to warranty your phone, even if
it's like the 2nd day, the phones under warranty, and it was entirely
the phones fault that it's not working! Want to switch to another
phone, they don't use sim cards, so you have to pay $16 to swap to
another phone. Pay your bill using cash, and don't have a card? Not a problem, they don't give out change, so if you only have $20 and your
bill is $65, you'll have to pay $80 and they'll be nice enough to credit
the remaining $15 to your next months bill. I mean, hey you didn't need
the money anyway, did you? Incidently, that's another thing the iphone
can't do! If I record audio, eg. recording parts of my ham meeting
using an audio recorder.. I want to share it with a friend. I have to
e-mail it to him, because as far as the GREAT and FANTASTIC message app
is concerned, you can text, send pictures and videos .... NO AUDIO!
Don't know why... and no, I should not be required to record a video
when I only want the audio! Likewise, call recorder apps.... not sure
why on the iphone you have to call another number, then call the number
you want to record, etc. to record a call... Android can record straight
from the microphone.... But then again, thats probably why iphone won't
let you record videos while on the phone.... Oh, yeah, and on the
Android, I could download ANYTHING off the web, then e-mail it to
myself... I've found a loop-hole that allows me to use an e-mail cient
to do similiar, but not near as nice as with the android! Feel free to
enjoy a phone that's inferior and tells you what you can do.... But I
sure can't wait for my contract to be up so I can buy a real phone!
Apple loves folks like you... They can come out with new features that
existed for years on Android phones, and you go all ape wild loving it,
buy the latest phones they sell and are content with being able to make
a phone call and send basic text....






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Re: Re: Android Phone
By: JOHN GUILLORY to ROBERT WOLFE on Thu Aug 21 2014 12:27 pm

What phone is this again???

The phone that gets senile is the iPhone 4s, though most of the other symptoms I find on my step son's 5s as well... Basically as I've said,
I'm not at all impressed with the iphone line! Too many things you
can't do that I CAN do with an Android! But because most iPhone owners

i never heard about these problems.

btw, when you are posting, it is a big block of text stuck together and it's all the same width.

there is no formatting or carriage returns and it makes it difficult to
read. or want to read.
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