I think most of us can agree that one of the greatest things about the local dial up BBS was the regional aspect of it and sense of local community. Now that Telnet access is more the norm and regional seperation due to cost of
long distance is no longer the case is there something being lost with the current state of BBS or is that localization still kept alive in other ways? -Belzo

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I think most of us can agree that one of the greatest things about the
local dial up BBS was the regional aspect of it and sense of local community. Now that Telnet access is more the norm and regional seperation due to cost of long distance is no longer the case is there something
being lost with the current state of BBS or is that localization still
kept alive in other ways? -Belzo

In the early days of the BBS, the communities were very localized. Even within
the particular state, since most had to deal with in-state long distance costs depending on your location.

As things evolved, in state long distance was going away so it opened up things
a bit. Then once long distance was a thing of the past and the addition of telnet, the horizons opened up even more.

What used to take at least a day or two for a message to make it from one system to another takes minutes or seconds now.

I like the balance of keeping the original BBS going, but have added modern ways for it to transfer messages to be much faster.

- Mark

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Re: Re: Dialup vs telnet BBS
By: Mark Hofmann to Belzo on Tue May 13 2014 12:31 pm

As things evolved, in state long distance was going away so it opened up things a bit. Then once long distance was a thing of the past and the addition of telnet, the horizons opened up even more.

telnet has been around for quite a long time. i know of people putting up
dos based bbses via telnet since the mid 90s.

regarding long distance being a thing of the past, they milked that shit until the last minute. the cable providers had to come by offering it and THEN att and others had to comply. i think in my area in SE wisconsin (by large cities) they did that shit until 2000 or later.

What used to take at least a day or two for a message to make it from one system to another takes minutes or seconds now.

it depended on the polling. i was on a bbs that polled its fidonet feed several times a day.
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regarding long distance being a thing of the past, they milked that shit until the last minute. the cable providers had to come by offering it and THEN att and others had to comply. i think in my area in SE wisconsin (by large cities) they did that shit until 2000 or later.

And they would still be milking it, if other options didn't become available. They are still milking ISDN, Frame-Relay T1s, etc. $600 for a T1 and still charging by the minute for ISDN usage. There are still some companies that have that stuff still around - mainly because they are connecting to a location
that doesn't have any other options.

it depended on the polling. i was on a bbs that polled its fidonet feed several times a day.

My system sends out posts immediately after it is saved on the BBS.

- Mark

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Re: Re: Dialup vs telnet BBS
By: Mark Hofmann to Mro on Sat May 31 2014 08:21 pm

And they would still be milking it, if other options didn't become available. They are still milking ISDN, Frame-Relay T1s, etc. $600 for a T1 and still charging by the minute for ISDN usage.

I *liked* ISDN. Liked the ability to switch back and forth between 2 analog lines, 1 analog line and a 56K internet connection, or bond both for 112/128kbps internet connections. Analog connections were digital from my end to the CO, and I used to get 46k/50k connections regularly.

If ISDN went flat rate, I'd get one for the BBS in a heartbeat. the speed is more than fine for dialup and a telnet node or two.

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Re: Re: Dialup vs telnet BBS
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mark Hofmann on Mon Jun 02 2014 01:35 pm

lines, 1 analog line and a 56K internet connection, or bond both for 112/128kbps internet connections. Analog connections were digital from my end to the CO, and I used to get 46k/50k connections regularly.

If ISDN went flat rate, I'd get one for the BBS in a heartbeat. the speed
is more than fine for dialup and a telnet node or two.

that makes no sense. you have no need for an isdn line
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I *liked* ISDN. Liked the ability to switch back and forth between 2
analog lines, 1 analog line and a 56K internet connection, or bond both
for 112/128kbps internet connections. Analog connections were digital
from my end to the CO, and I used to get 46k/50k connections regularly.

It was a nice technology for the time. My old work paid for me to get ISDN installed at home back in the mid 90s. It was nice to be able to make 128k PPP
connections to work and be able to pickup one of the lines and it would automatically drop back.

Being billed for connect time by the minute just killed it for me.

Who would have thought back in the 300 baud days that people would be connecting to my BBS today using a 105/10Mbps connection.

- Mark

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Re: Re: Dialup vs telnet BBS
By: Mro to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Jun 02 2014 08:46 pm

that makes no sense. you have no need for an isdn line

To have a dedicated line that could bond to make a decent-enough internet connection for telnet lines and share that bandwidth with two dial-up lines in a hunt group? No BBS sysop could find a use for that!

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Re: Re: Dialup vs telnet BBS
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Mon Jun 02 2014 08:45 pm

To have a dedicated line that could bond to make a decent-enough internet connection for telnet lines and share that bandwidth with two dial-up lines in a hunt group? No BBS sysop could find a use for that!

not when you have residential internet.

dialup lines, seriously? most people don't even have POTS anymore.
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