Hello everyone. Really glad that other people still believe that BBS has something to offer. I get nostalgic for my early days of computer hardward and software often. I work in IT so sometimes I get to run into
some equipment that's been around since I first began with computers. My first computer was a Compaq Presario CDS 924 and I was in 7th grade at the time. I believe this was in 1995. Pretty quickly after I got the computer a neighbor told me about the local BBS. I frequently visited Rob's BBS Arcade and Crystal Cave BBS in Northern Indiana. I liked to play LORD mostly and message other local members. I currently really enjoy watching old Computer Chronicles episodes. Just hearing that theme song really takes me back to a purer time and more exciting time for me personally with computers. Also old CNet episodes are great. I don't really see myself ever hosting my own BBS but I hope it's always around. It may be one of the only methods of connecting with other people that still believe that there is something missing from the Internet of today that can't be found on Facebook and Twitter.

I'd like to know peoples thoughts on why some of us still look at the time period of the 80's and 90's of computers with so much nostalgia. Is it just that we are getting old or is it something else? :)
-Belzo

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Re: Hello everyone
By: Belzo to All on Sat Mar 29 2014 09:40 am

some equipment that's been around since I first began with computers. My first computer was a Compaq Presario CDS 924 and I was in 7th grade at the time. I believe this was in 1995. Pretty quickly after I got the computer

I'd like to know peoples thoughts on why some of us still look at the time period of the 80's and 90's of computers with so much nostalgia. Is it just that we are getting old or is it something else? :)
-Belzo

First of all, you're not that old, so it must be something else :) Also, look at all the highschool and college people with their 8-bit culture t-shirts, and their love of video games from a time before they were even born, and it becomes apparent it's something else.

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First of all, you're not that old, so it must be something else :) Also, look at all the highschool and college people with their 8-bit culture t-shirts, and their love of video games from a time before they were even born, and it becomes apparent it's something else.

All good points Froggyme, but I guess I'm interested in what keeps some of us that experienced it first hand continually interested in old technology. There are a lot of forums on the internet that we could be posting to but we are posting to the BBS boards instead which is hardly easier or as far reaching. What brings some of us back here while others never looked back at the "old tech"? Just curious what has brought everyone back after so many years. It is to find other like minded people that also have nostalgic feelings for it? -Belzo

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Belzo to Froggyme on Sat Mar 29 2014 05:13 pm

All good points Froggyme, but I guess I'm interested in what keeps some of us that experienced it first hand continually interested in old technology. There are a lot of forums on the internet that we could be posting to but we are posting to the BBS boards instead which is hardly easier or as far reaching. What brings some of us back here while others never looked back at the "old tech"? Just curious what has brought everyone back after so many years. It is to find other like minded people that also have nostalgic feelings for it? -Belzo

I love the technology - being able to run an entire ecosystem on an old Windows or DOS box that includes file networks, private messages, public conferences, games, and instant messaging? With a store-and-forward network that allows you to contact thousands of BBSes and users?

BBS users tend to be a different lot, too. We're used to online communities with a local aspect where you knew the people in real life more often than not.

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Poindexter Fortran to Belzo on Sun Mar 30 2014 08:13 am

BBS users tend to be a different lot, too. We're used to online communities with a local aspect where you knew the people in real life more often than not.

i dont think a lot of them know or even think about the fact that there's a real person on the other end.

i do get some nice people, though.
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On 03-29-14, Belzo said the following...

I'd like to know peoples thoughts on why some of us still look at the
time period of the 80's and 90's of computers with so much nostalgia. Is it just that we are getting old or is it something else? :)

Back in the day of BBS systems, you had a tighty knitted community of people that were experiencing things that the general public wouldn't experience for years to come. The online experience.

It may have been rough and outdated by today's standards, but I wouldn't have traded it for the world. Now that i'm retired and gettin older, returning to
my roots gives me someting to do besides baking sourdough bread, chopping fire wood, or playing with the grandkids. It also, has given me a reason to bring back an old network (Survnet) relating to survival and self-reliance. There
may sometime, come-a-day when the SHTF and we all will wish there was another board to call up (dial) ATDT xxx-xxx-xxx for news and information on just how can someone help me return to my father's roots. The barter system will never die.. It might even be coming to a BBS system near you, when the SHTF (:

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Re: Hello everyone
By: Belzo to All on Sat Mar 29 2014 09:40 am

Hello everyone. Really glad that other people still believe that BBS has something to offer. I get nostalgic for my early days of computer hardward a software often. I work in IT so sometimes I get to run into
some equipment that's been around since I first began with computers. My fir computer was a Compaq Presario CDS 924 and I was in 7th grade at the time. I believe this was in 1995. Pretty quickly after I got the computer a neighbor told me about the local BBS. I frequently visited Rob's BBS Arcade and Cryst Cave BBS in Northern Indiana. I liked to play LORD mostly and message other local members. I currently really enjoy watching old Computer Chronicles episodes. Just hearing that theme song really takes me back to a purer time more exciting time for me personally with computers. Also old CNet episodes great. I don't really see myself ever hosting my own BBS but I hope it's alw around. It may be one of the only methods of connecting with other people th still believe that there is something missing from the Internet of today tha can't be found on Facebook and Twitter.

I'd like to know peoples thoughts on why some of us still look at the time period of the 80's and 90's of computers with so much nostalgia. Is it just that we are getting old or is it something else? :)
-Belzo

I'm not sure why I love older software/hardware so much. Unfortonatlly I missed the 80s and didn't even know BBSs existed in the 90s. :( I did always love playing with computers though. I would say it's partly nostalgia and partly something else, as I have not had the opportunity to play with alot of stuff from the 80s, other then PCs.


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Re: Hello everyone
By: Belzo to All on Sat Mar 29 2014 09:40:51

Hello everyone. Really glad that other people still believe that BBS has something to offer. I get nostalgic for my early days of computer hardward a

nd

software often. I work in IT so sometimes I get to run into
I'd like to know peoples thoughts on why some of us still look at the time period of the 80's and 90's of computers with so much nostalgia. Is it just that we are getting old or is it something else? :)

I get nostalgic for it pretty often, too. I just found out, not too long ago, that the first computer hardware that I'd started out on (an Atari 600XL & 130XE) may well have been destroyed by a leak that my adoptive mother had in her crawl space last summer or the summer before last. I'm REALLY hoping
that this isn't the case; I love those ancient 8-bit computers dearly. I first learned to program on them when I was 12, and I was hooked instantly. When I got a modem for the first time, after seeing Wargames and seeing a friend
use his modem for local systems that I'd be able to dial up to without charges, the hook sunk much deeper and has never left.
I don't know about everyone else, but I know that I'm certainly getting older. ;) I'm not going to blame it on that, though. I think that there's something about silicon addicts; when that hook strikes home, it fills a void that nothing else can fill, and there's always going to be a soft spot for those first systems, regardless of what the latest Porche of the computer
world might be able to do. ;)
Maybe that's just me, though.

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Re: Hello everyone
By: Froggyme to Belzo on Sat Mar 29 2014 16:03:07

First of all, you're not that old, so it must be something else :) Also, lo

ok

at all the highschool and college people with their 8-bit culture t-shirts,

and

their love of video games from a time before they were even born, and it becomes apparent it's something else.

Whoa. I totally was not aware of this. Maybe it's just that the 8-bit T-shirt fad hasn't hit bumfsck, North Dakota yet. heh. That's awesome, though. :) I thought I was the only one other than the hot, busty chick on the Atari clothing website that still wore the ancient 8-bit Atari logo shirt. ;)

-- Greetings, NSA, and best wishes


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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Belzo to Froggyme on Sat Mar 29 2014 17:13:48

All good points Froggyme, but I guess I'm interested in what keeps some of u

s

that experienced it first hand continually interested in old technology. The

re

are a lot of forums on the internet that we could be posting to but we are posting to the BBS boards instead which is hardly easier or as far reaching. What brings some of us back here while others never looked back at the "old tech"? Just curious what has brought everyone back after so many years. It i

s

to find other like minded people that also have nostalgic feelings for it?

Not trying to message-bomb ya, I promise. ;) I've got a thought on this particular question, too. I think that maybe it has a little something to do with the specific interests and capabilities of the era that these people (the majority, anyway) are familiar with. We're not the 'loltards' of the latest social-networking, mouse-based, point 'n click websites. The majority of us learned to use these systems back in the day when a lot fewer people used computers because they weren't necessarily nearly as friendly. The text-based interface made all of the people who don't read because it gives them a headache stay away. Now the windowing systems give them pretty pictures and a point 'n click based interface; a lot of 'em can't type well or spell. There was much more skill inherent in it, back in the day. We've got a little more respect for each other, because of that common ground, I think. Again, I'm pulling this straight out of my arse, but it's my educated guess on the matter. :)

-- Greetings, NSA, and best wishes


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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Skuz to Belzo on Sun Mar 30 2014 16:27:00

wood, or playing with the grandkids. It also, has given me a reason to bring back an old network (Survnet) relating to survival and self-reliance. There may sometime, come-a-day when the SHTF and we all will wish there was anothe

r

board to call up (dial) ATDT xxx-xxx-xxx for news and information on just ho

w

can someone help me return to my father's roots. The barter system will neve

r

die.. It might even be coming to a BBS system near you, when the SHTF (:

There are three of us with similar cause that are running systems now, then. We've been trying to get networked, but it's kind of been hung up a bit since I've not been able to participate in getting things up and running due to homelessness and involuntary relocation and the like. I'm planning on adding meshnet and AX.25 capability, as well as a mobile hardware base. Survival and tactics manuals, as well as some improvised austere medicine and um... ways to fight back... are my particular focus on my system. You say you've got a net up already? I would very much like to join, and the other guy with the Tinfoil BBS would like this, as well, I'm sure. :)
Good to meet you!

-- Greetings, NSA, and best wishes


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Thanks for all of the replies. I certainly agree with all of the responses. I used to have a Facebook account and have since deleted it because I was so
sick of the stuff people post on there. So perhaps the BBS serves many
purposes today. Connecting people that wish to avoide modern day social networks yet still be social in terms that we can relate to and that has built in filtering of people that we may not want to be social with :)

Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Belzo to Froggyme on Sat Mar 29 2014 17:13:48

All good points Froggyme, but I guess I'm interested in what keeps some of u

s

that experienced it first hand continually interested in old technology. The

re

are a lot of forums on the internet that we could be posting to but we are posting to the BBS boards instead which is hardly easier or as far reaching. What brings some of us back here while others never looked
back at the "old tech"? Just curious what has brought everyone back
after so many years. It i

s

to find other like minded people that also have nostalgic feelings for it?

Not trying to message-bomb ya, I promise. ;) I've got a thought on this particular question, too. I think that maybe it has a little
something to do with the specific interests and capabilities of the era
that these people (the majority, anyway) are familiar with. We're not the 'loltards' of the latest social-networking, mouse-based, point 'n click websites. The majority of us learned to use these systems back in the day when a lot fewer people used computers because they weren't necessarily nearly as friendly. The text-based interface made all of the people who don't read because it gives them a headache stay away. Now the windowing systems give them pretty pictures and a point 'n click based interface; a lot of 'em can't type well or spell. There was much more skill inherent in it, back in the day. We've got a little more respect for each other, because of that common ground, I think. Again, I'm pulling this straight out of my arse, but it's my educated guess on the matter. :)

-- Greetings, NSA, and best wishes

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Skuz to Belzo on Sun Mar 30 2014 04:27 pm

bread, chopping fire wood, or playing with the grandkids. It also, has given me a reason to bring back an old network (Survnet) relating to survival and self-reliance. There may sometime, come-a-day when the SHTF and we all will wish there was another board to call up (dial) ATDT xxx-xxx-xxx for news and information on just how can someone help me return to my father's roots. The barter system will never die.. It might even be coming to a BBS system near you, when the SHTF (:

I'd like to add Survnet too.

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Skuz wrote to Belzo <=-

It may have been rough and outdated by today's standards, but I
wouldn't have traded it for the world. Now that i'm retired and gettin older, returning to my roots gives me someting to do besides baking sourdough bread, chopping fire wood, or playing with the grandkids. It also, has given me a reason to bring back an old network (Survnet) relating to survival and self-reliance. There may sometime, come-a-day when the SHTF and we all will wish there was another board to call up (dial) ATDT xxx-xxx-xxx for news and information on just how can
someone help me return to my father's roots. The barter system will
never die.. It might even be coming to a BBS system near you, when the SHTF (:

Those are some of the thoughts and feelings I have as well. We may well
have need of store-and-forward networks in the future, and I think it's
good for us to keep these practices alive.

I'd be interested in the information for Survnet.


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Re: Hello everyone
By: Khelair to Belzo on Sun Mar 30 2014 18:38:35

ago, that the first computer hardware that I'd started out on (an Atari 600X 130XE) may well have been destroyed by a leak that my adoptive mother had in her crawl space last summer or the summer before last. I'm REALLY hoping that this isn't the case; I love those ancient 8-bit computers dearly. I fi

There are emulators for most old systems so you can move to one of them when the original hardware no longer works.

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Re: Hello everyone
By: bcw142 to Khelair on Tue Apr 01 2014 02:10 pm

There are emulators for most old
systems so you can move to one of them when the original hardware no longer works.

Yeah, but I *love* old hardware, too. There's something about an old non-PC keyboard that's just different - mechanical springs, full travel, or just a different layout.

I always loved the old Sun keyboard - they were worth firing up an old box to play with.


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Re: Hello everyone
By: bcw142 to Khelair on Tue Apr 01 2014 02:10 pm

ancient 8-bit computers dearly. I fi There are emulators for most old systems so you can move to one of them when the original hardware no longer works.

ago, that the first computer hardware that I'd started out on (an
Atari 600X 130XE) may well have been destroyed by a leak that my
adoptive mother had in her crawl space last summer or the summer
before last. I'm REALLY hoping that this isn't the case; I love those

Nice thing about Atari these days is there are a ton of them on eBay at various price ranges. I got a 130xe for < $120 about a year ago. Pair that with an SIO2PC and you can serve disks from the PC right up to the Atari, not to mention connect the Atari to the internet via serial -> tcp-ip type connection.

I love my Atari 800, thing is kick ass.


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On 04-01-14, Dreamer said the following...

Those are some of the thoughts and feelings I have as well. We may well have need of store-and-forward networks in the future, and I think it's good for us to keep these practices alive.
I'd be interested in the information for Survnet.

For those interested in Survnet, any board that carries the fido filebone
area oddball\infopack should have the survnet infopack. svn_991.zip or you
can grab it from my board flupH bbs fluph.darktech.org or netmail to 1:275/91 will also work. I can attach it to a netmail or email.

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On 03-31-14, Froggyme said the following...

I'd like to add Survnet too.

survnet hq is fluph.darktech.org also a blocktrontics member board. I can upload the infopack to your board.

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On 03-31-14, Khelair said the following...

the like. I'm planning on adding meshnet and AX.25 capability, as well
as a mobile hardware base. Survival and tactics manuals, as well as
some improvised austere medicine and um... waysto fight back... are my particular focus on my system. You say you've got a net up already? I would very much like to join, and the other guy with the Tinfoil BBS
would like this, as well, I'm sure. :) Good to meet you!
-- Greetings, NSA, and best wishes

I've made note of 3 or 4 other boards interested in join Survnet. Is Tinfoil bbs in any other networks nodelist? Is he a synchonet board? I'm running
Mystic here, and carry fido, agoranet, zeronet, dorenet, dovenet, and survnet. all those infopack's can be found in oddball/infopack FDN network filebone.
My board email is fluph411@gmail.com or use netmail. I can also just upload
the infopack to your board. Thanks for the interest.. all of the past 20
years of survnet filebone can be downloaded from fluph.darktech.org:23
members also have ftp access, but there is limited bandwidth though. I think the someone has make a torrent of some of the Survnet filebase.

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Re: Hello everyone
By: bcw142 to Khelair on Tue Apr 01 2014 14:10:33

There are emulators for most old systems so you can move to one of them when the original hardware no longer works.

Butbutbutbut the archaic hardware is half of the fun ;)


-- Greetings, NSA, and best wishes


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Re: Hello everyone
By: Android8675 to bcw142 on Tue Apr 01 2014 08:17:01

Nice thing about Atari these days is there are a ton of them on eBay at various
price ranges. I got a 130xe for < $120 about a year ago. Pair that with an SIO2PC and you can serve disks from the PC right up to the Atari, not to mention connect the Atari to the internet via serial -> tcp-ip type connection.

I love my Atari 800, thing is kick ass.

Absolutely awesome. :D I'm getting paychecks now, thank god!


-- Greetings, NSA, and best wishes


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Re: Hello everyone
By: Belzo to All on Sat Mar 29 2014 09:40 am

I'd like to know peoples thoughts on why some of us still look at the time period of the 80's and 90's of computers with so much nostalgia. Is it just that we are getting old or is it something else? :)
-Belzo

I started out in the BBS world at around age 5 (my dad was very trusting) on
my Apple IIe and later on an Atari 520, Atari 1040 and the Mega ST2. I finally got a PC in highschool probably around 1995 or so. I still have both the apple IIe and Mega ST2 set up beside my desktop and just acquired a Commodore 64 that is in the basement.

I lovew the 8 bit systems and still enjoy playiong the Atari 2600, my the computers.

I stepped out of the bbs world in the early 2000's but rejoined in later years and am still enjoying the experience and the with the invent of the internet no longer having large phone bills for calling out of town.

I am re learning my love of programming in BASIC (mainly Applesoft but might branch into the Atari Basic).

While only in my mid thirties I don't want to label myself old but I do miss the old computer ways when you had the great communities online and everyone knew everyone more or less. I enjoyed going to local meet up of the community. I find the internet today to be intrusive and everyone can know your business whether you really like it or not.

Computers are point and click, plug and play, I like having to know my command lines and how to program. I enjoy being able to dig deep into the computer and fix a probalem with the computer without having to buy it all new or
break something accidently cause it is not made as sturdy as before.

Anyways wrote way more then I had intended.

/h


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Re: Hello everyone
By: Coconut to Belzo on Fri Apr 04 2014 11:30:29

Re: Hello everyone
By: Belzo to All on Sat Mar 29 2014 09:40 am

I'd like to know peoples thoughts on why some of us still look at the tim period of the 80's and 90's of computers with so much nostalgia. Is it ju that we are getting old or is it something else? :)
-Belzo

I started out in the BBS world at around age 5 (my dad was very trusting) on my Apple IIe and later on an Atari 520, Atari 1040 and the Mega ST2. I final got a PC in highschool probably around 1995 or so. I still have both the app IIe and Mega ST2 set up beside my desktop and just acquired a Commodore 64 t is in the basement.

I lovew the 8 bit systems and still enjoy playiong the Atari 2600, my the computers.

I stepped out of the bbs world in the early 2000's but rejoined in later yea and am still enjoying the experience and the with the invent of the internet longer having large phone bills for calling out of town.

I am re learning my love of programming in BASIC (mainly Applesoft but might branch into the Atari Basic).

While only in my mid thirties I don't want to label myself old but I do miss the old computer ways when you had the great communities online and everyone knew everyone more or less. I enjoyed going to local meet up of the communit I find the internet today to be intrusive and everyone can know your busines whether you really like it or not.

Computers are point and click, plug and play, I like having to know my comma lines and how to program. I enjoy being able to dig deep into the computer a fix a probalem with the computer without having to buy it all new or
break something accidently cause it is not made as sturdy as before.

Anyways wrote way more then I had intended.

/h

I agree... I miss the old days also when you had to actually put some
thought forth in doing things, especially computers <lol>

Everything now is like you said, point-click and tada!

Charon
riverstyx.darktech.org

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Re: Hello everyone
By: Android8675 to bcw142 on Tue Apr 01 2014 08:17 am

ago, that the first computer hardware that I'd started out on (an
Atari 600X 130XE) may well have been destroyed by a leak that my
adoptive mother had in her crawl space last summer or the summer
before last. I'm REALLY hoping that this isn't the case; I love those

Nice thing about Atari these days is there are a ton of them on eBay at various price ranges. I got a 130xe for < $120 about a year ago. Pair that with an SIO2PC and you can serve disks from the PC right up to the Atari, not to mention connect the Atari to the internet via serial -> tcp-ip type connection.

I grew up on Atari 8-bits and STs, too. We had two 800s, a 130XE, a 520ST, and eventually I bought my own 1040STe (first computer I bought with my own money).

I sold all of them in college, which I have always regretted. But last week I bought a Mega STe from a guy, and now I'm slowly beginning to get it tricked out. I'm a Mac guy now, so I have no floppy drives to move software onto the Mega, so I'm probably going to get a Lantronix so that I can telnet out. There's the UltraSatan sd-card reader, but there's a guy on atari-forum.com who
is developing something even nicer that I'm holding out for.

I'm also in touch with a former Atari SysOp in town. He has promised to give me
his old BBS hardware, though he has been very slow to follow through. We'll see. Maybe someday I can resurrect the BBS.



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Re: Hello everyone
By: bcw142 to Khelair on Tue Apr 01 2014 02:10 pm

There are emulators for most old systems so you can move to one of
them when the original hardware no longer works.

Despite what everyone says, emulators still lag, even on modern hardware, compared to the real thing. And LCD displays blur on resolutions that CRTs will multisyc to.

But emulators are great for having 1000s of games at your immediate disposal! (if you aren't used to the response and framerate of the real thing)

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Re: Hello everyone
By: Coconut to Belzo on Fri Apr 04 2014 11:30 am

on my Apple IIe and later on an Atari 520, Atari 1040 and the Mega ST2. I finally got a PC in highschool probably around 1995 or so. I still have both the apple IIe and Mega ST2 set up beside my desktop and just acquired a Commodore 64 that is in the basement.

Atari Mega ST2! I want an Atari Falcon with a 68060 within. Have you tried the Linux distro MiNT for your ST?

http://sparemint.org/sparemint/
http://xaaes.atariforge.org/

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Re: Hello everyone
By: Froggyme to Coconut on Sat Apr 12 2014 01:33 am

Atari Mega ST2! I want an Atari Falcon with a 68060 within. Have you tried the Linux distro MiNT for your ST?

No I have not tried it, hadn't even heard of it till just now. Will go looking later tonight or this weekend.

Thanks for the suggestion.


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Re: Hello everyone
By: Belzo to All on Sat Mar 29 2014 09:40 am

Hello everyone. Really glad that other people still believe that BBS has something to offer. I get nostalgic for my early days of computer hardward a

nd

software often. I work in IT so sometimes I get to run into
some equipment that's been around since I first began with computers. My fir

st

computer was a Compaq Presario CDS 924 and I was in 7th grade at the time. I believe this was in 1995. Pretty quickly after I got the computer a neighbor told me about the local BBS. I frequently visited Rob's BBS Arcade and Cryst

al

Cave BBS in Northern Indiana. I liked to play LORD mostly and message other local members. I currently really enjoy watching old Computer Chronicles episodes. Just hearing that theme song really takes me back to a purer time

and

more exciting time for me personally with computers. Also old CNet episodes

are

great. I don't really see myself ever hosting my own BBS but I hope it's alw

ays

around. It may be one of the only methods of connecting with other people th

at

still believe that there is something missing from the Internet of today tha

t

can't be found on Facebook and Twitter.

I'd like to know peoples thoughts on why some of us still look at the time period of the 80's and 90's of computers with so much nostalgia. Is it just that we are getting old or is it something else? :)
-Belzo

Getting old has a lot to do with nostalghia. Look at the old foagies who can talk for hours about Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra. Our children and their children will think the BBS age and all of our daydreaming about that era is weird and we'll be the new foagies.

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Skuz to Belzo on Sun Mar 30 2014 04:27 pm

On 03-29-14, Belzo said the following...

I'd like to know peoples thoughts on why some of us still look at the time period of the 80's and 90's of computers with so much nostalgia. I

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it just that we are getting old or is it something else? :)

Back in the day of BBS systems, you had a tighty knitted community of peopl

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that were experiencing things that the general public wouldn't experience fo

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years to come. The online experience.

It may have been rough and outdated by today's standards, but I wouldn't hav

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traded it for the world. Now that i'm retired and gettin older, returning to my roots gives me someting to do besides baking sourdough bread, chopping fi

re

wood, or playing with the grandkids. It also, has given me a reason to bring back an old network (Survnet) relating to survival and self-reliance. There may sometime, come-a-day when the SHTF and we all will wish there was anothe

r

board to call up (dial) ATDT xxx-xxx-xxx for news and information on just ho

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can someone help me return to my father's roots. The barter system will neve

r

die.. It might even be coming to a BBS system near you, when the SHTF (:

The survival/self-reliance thing is good. I've been doing some of that too. It's a hobby of its own, and it doesn't hurt to be prepared (as long as you're not spending every last drop of your money on it, etc). Would be nice to have a board for that.

Have you looked at Broadband-Hamnet? It basically lets you use a ham license to use more powerful antennas and signal strength to create a wide area network using run of the mill Linksys wifi routers over 20-30 miles. It's a mesh network. It's perfect for SHTF and emergency situations. Also, others can automatically join your network and it extends the access. Kind of a self organizing private internet.

And since landlines are gone, it would be kind of cool to have a universal wireless channel where you can access X.25 packet anywhere. Would be a nice alternative to cellular/wifi.

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Re: Hello everyone
By: Khelair to Belzo on Sun Mar 30 2014 06:38 pm

Re: Hello everyone
By: Belzo to All on Sat Mar 29 2014 09:40:51

Hello everyone. Really glad that other people still believe that BBS has something to offer. I get nostalgic for my early days of computer hardwar

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nd

software often. I work in IT so sometimes I get to run into
I'd like to know peoples thoughts on why some of us still look at the tim

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period of the 80's and 90's of computers with so much nostalgia. Is it ju

st

that we are getting old or is it something else? :)

I get nostalgic for it pretty often, too. I just found out, not too lon

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ago, that the first computer hardware that I'd started out on (an Atari 600X

L &

130XE) may well have been destroyed by a leak that my adoptive mother had in her crawl space last summer or the summer before last. I'm REALLY hoping that this isn't the case; I love those ancient 8-bit computers dearly. I fi

rst

learned to program on them when I was 12, and I was hooked instantly. When

I

got a modem for the first time, after seeing Wargames and seeing a friend use his modem for local systems that I'd be able to dial up to without charg

es,

the hook sunk much deeper and has never left.
I don't know about everyone else, but I know that I'm certainly getting older. ;) I'm not going to blame it on that, though. I think that there's something about silicon addicts; when that hook strikes home, it fills a voi

d

that nothing else can fill, and there's always going to be a soft spot for those first systems, regardless of what the latest Porche of the computer world might be able to do. ;)
Maybe that's just me, though.

-- Greetings, NSA, and best wishes

Good old Wargames. That movie had such an impact on my youth.

Knight

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Khelair to Skuz on Sun Mar 30 2014 06:47 pm

Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Skuz to Belzo on Sun Mar 30 2014 16:27:00

wood, or playing with the grandkids. It also, has given me a reason to br

ing

back an old network (Survnet) relating to survival and self-reliance. The

re

may sometime, come-a-day when the SHTF and we all will wish there was ano

the

r

board to call up (dial) ATDT xxx-xxx-xxx for news and information on just

ho

w

can someone help me return to my father's roots. The barter system will n

eve

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die.. It might even be coming to a BBS system near you, when the SHTF (:

There are three of us with similar cause that are running systems now, then. We've been trying to get networked, but it's kind of been hung up a b

it

since I've not been able to participate in getting things up and running due

to

homelessness and involuntary relocation and the like. I'm planning on addin

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meshnet and AX.25 capability, as well as a mobile hardware base. Survival a

nd

tactics manuals, as well as some improvised austere medicine and um... ways

to

fight back... are my particular focus on my system. You say you've got a n

et

up already? I would very much like to join, and the other guy with the Tinf

oil

BBS would like this, as well, I'm sure. :)
Good to meet you!

-- Greetings, NSA, and best wishes

Exactly! A wifi meshnet, and X.25 too. Good stuff.

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Froggyme to Skuz on Mon Mar 31 2014 12:10 am

Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Skuz to Belzo on Sun Mar 30 2014 04:27 pm

bread, chopping fire wood, or playing with the grandkids. It also, has given me a reason to bring back an old network (Survnet) relating to survival and self-reliance. There may sometime, come-a-day when the SHT

F

and we all will wish there was another board to call up (dial) ATDT xxx-xxx-xxx for news and information on just how can someone help me return to my father's roots. The barter system will never die.. It migh

t

even be coming to a BBS system near you, when the SHTF (:

I'd like to add Survnet too.

Count me in on Survnet!

Knight (The Phunc BBS)

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Re: Hello everyone
By: Froggyme to Coconut on Sat Apr 12 2014 01:33 am

Atari Mega ST2! I want an Atari Falcon with a 68060 within. Have you
tried the Linux distro MiNT for your ST?

I still have a glossy promotional handout for the Falcon from around 1993, although it got water damaged when our house was hit by a tornado a few years ago. As a teen Atari fan, I thought the Falcon looked pretty awesome. The colors! The multitasking! And it could even manage a voicemail system.

--Josh


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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Knight to Skuz on Sun Apr 13 2014 01:00:21

The survival/self-reliance thing is good. I've been doing some of that
It's a hobby of its own, and it doesn't hurt to be prepared (as long a
not spending every last drop of your money on it, etc). Would be nice t board for that.

Got survival covered, sparsely right now, though I'm working on
adding more information to the system every day. As far as
self-reliance, I cover it in some ways, others I'm going to be expanding
into just as soon as I'm sure I have enough information available for my
mobile AX.25 broadcasting board to keep people supplied with tactics,
field manuals, topographical maps, and the like. :)

telnet://tinfoil.synchro.net:8023/ or
ssh://tinfoil.synchro.net/

etc etc etc


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Re: Hello everyone
By: Knight to Khelair on Sun Apr 13 2014 01:01:00

Good old Wargames. That movie had such an impact on my youth.

YES


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Re: Hello everyone
By: Kirkman to Froggyme on Sat Apr 12 2014 10:18 pm

Re: Hello everyone
By: Froggyme to Coconut on Sat Apr 12 2014 01:33 am

Atari Mega ST2! I want an Atari Falcon with a 68060 within. Have you tried the Linux distro MiNT for your ST?

I still have a glossy promotional handout for the Falcon from around 1993, although it got water damaged when our house was hit by a tornado a few year

s

ago. As a teen Atari fan, I thought the Falcon looked pretty awesome. The colors! The multitasking! And it could even manage a voicemail system.

--Josh

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Can these be picked up used for a reasonable price? Any challenges to getting them to run?

Knight

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Khelair to Knight on Sun Apr 13 2014 03:27 am

Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Knight to Skuz on Sun Apr 13 2014 01:00:21

The survival/self-reliance thing is good. I've been doing some of that It's a hobby of its own, and it doesn't hurt to be prepared (as long a not spending every last drop of your money on it, etc). Would be nice t board for that.

Got survival covered, sparsely right now, though I'm working on
adding more information to the system every day. As far as
self-reliance, I cover it in some ways, others I'm going to be expanding into just as soon as I'm sure I have enough information available for my mobile AX.25 broadcasting board to keep people supplied with tactics,
field manuals, topographical maps, and the like. :)

telnet://tinfoil.synchro.net:8023/ or
ssh://tinfoil.synchro.net/

etc etc etc

-- guh up the effbomb down wif yr bad self

I am so game for that. I would like very much to have an X.25 board setup containing all the little files and data points you'd need if the Internet was down, such as topos like you said. Great ideas.

That stuff would be great on Broadband Hamnet too.

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Knight to Khelair on Sun Apr 13 2014 05:51:46

I am so game for that. I would like very much to have an X.25 board setup containing all the little files and data points you'd need if the Internet w down, such as topos like you said. Great ideas.

That stuff would be great on Broadband Hamnet too.

Well I shall most certainly continue to make sure I'm
stockpiling everything that I possibly can in my information files
instead of sitting on my pained ass here. :) Good to make your
aquaintence, sir. Saaaay. You wouldn't happen to be the same Knight
that was stationed in Illesheim, back in 2004-2006 as E-5 desk sergeant,
would you? :D


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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Khelair to Knight on Sun Apr 13 2014 08:50 am

Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Knight to Khelair on Sun Apr 13 2014 05:51:46

I am so game for that. I would like very much to have an X.25 board setup containing all the little files and data points you'd need if the Interne

t w

down, such as topos like you said. Great ideas.

That stuff would be great on Broadband Hamnet too.

Well I shall most certainly continue to make sure I'm
stockpiling everything that I possibly can in my information files
instead of sitting on my pained ass here. :) Good to make your aquaintence, sir. Saaaay. You wouldn't happen to be the same Knight
that was stationed in Illesheim, back in 2004-2006 as E-5 desk sergeant, would you? :D

-- guh up the effbomb down wif yr bad self

Stockpiling for a rainy day, it such a good idea. Hopefully we can figure out how to easily run our BBSes on solar power and connect them into a BBS "mesh" so that even if the net went down, we'd have a thriving information network.

Nope, I was never in the military. But I've been using this handle for the last 20 years. I was originally "Dark Knight" on some BBSes in the late 80s.

Knight
Knight

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Can these be picked up used for a reasonable price? Any challenges to getting them to run?

I'm not sure about the pricing, since I'm not a big retro collector. But my guess is that the Atari ST/TT/Falcons would tend to be more expensive than other old PCs since they were never as popular and sold in much smaller numbers.

As far as challenges, the main thing is getting them talking to more modern equipment. My Mega STe, for example, has a floppy drive. But my Mac Pro
doesn't have a floppy drive, or even a serial port.

Thankfully there are some really cool third-party solutions. UltraSatan seems to be among the most popular. It's a SD-card hard drive emulator. You format the SD card on your modern machine and toss a bunch of games or whatever onto it. Then the UltraSatan hooks up to the Atari, an the Atari sees it as a hard drive (with multiple partitions depending on the size of the card)

That's what I would have been buying next, EXCEPT ... the creator of
UltraSatan is getting ready to release something called CosmosEx. It does the SD card stuff, but also can serve as a floppy emulator, a network drive (to allow shared folders between the Atari and modern computer), USB adapter, and more. Sounds pretty great.

The other thing I have in mind to buy is a Lantronix, which lets the Atari connect to BBSes via a hardware telnet->serial translation.

--Josh

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Belzo, I hope you know that 99% of people now days who wear 8-bit artwork shirts or even an Atari shirt don't even know what any of the old-school stuff is like. I do support it, I love old technology, it's beautiful.


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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Kirkman to Knight on Sun Apr 13 2014 06:25 pm

I'm not sure about the pricing, since I'm not a big retro collector. But my guess is that the Atari ST/TT/Falcons would tend to be more expensive than other old PCs since they were never as popular and sold in much smaller numbers.

Any suggestions on where to pick them up affordably?

Thankfully there are some really cool third-party solutions. UltraSatan seem

s

to be among the most popular. It's a SD-card hard drive emulator. You format the SD card on your modern machine and toss a bunch of games or whatever ont

o

it. Then the UltraSatan hooks up to the Atari, an the Atari sees it as a har

d

drive (with multiple partitions depending on the size of the card)

That's what I would have been buying next, EXCEPT ... the creator of UltraSatan is getting ready to release something called CosmosEx. It does th

e

SD card stuff, but also can serve as a floppy emulator, a network drive (to allow shared folders between the Atari and modern computer), USB adapter, an

d

more. Sounds pretty great.

I'll have to keep my eye out on CosmosEx (http://joo.kie.sk/?page_id=384). Looks awesome.

Knight

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Poodle448 to All on Sun Apr 13 2014 10:34 pm

Belzo, I hope you know that 99% of people now days who wear 8-bit artwork shirts or even an Atari shirt don't even know what any of the old-school stuff is like. I do support it, I love old technology, it's beautiful.

damn hipsters and posers!
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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Mro to Poodle448 on Mon Apr 14 2014 03:37 pm

Belzo, I hope you know that 99% of people now days who wear 8-bit
artwork shirts or even an Atari shirt don't even know what any of the
old-school stuff is like. I do support it, I love old technology, it's
beautiful.

damn hipsters and posers!

Yeah, for real. I can't stand it. And if I want to wear something like that, I look like a poser. That's why I want a Commodore chicken head logo shirt; you have to be real if you're wearing that!

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damn hipsters and posers!

Yeah, for real. I can't stand it. And if I want to wear something like that, I look like a poser. That's why I want a Commodore chicken head logo shirt; you have to be real if you're wearing that!

http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/urban/catalog/search.jsp?q=Commodore

Yup! You're safe. It passes the test :)

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Re: Hello everyone
By: Kirkman to Android8675 on Fri Apr 11 2014 09:16 am

I'm also in touch with a former Atari SysOp in town. He has promised to give me his old BBS hardware, though he has been very slow to follow through. We'll see. Maybe someday I can resurrect the BBS.

I am looking for a working copy of a BBS program for the ST called "BB/ST". If you find a copy or heaven fobid an actual original program disc/box/manual I'll pay you a lot of $$$ for it. I'm also looking for an ST, I don't have one at the moment.


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Re: Hello everyone
By: Froggyme to bcw142 on Sat Apr 12 2014 01:14 am

Despite what everyone says, emulators still lag, even on modern hardware, compared to the real thing. And LCD displays blur on resolutions that CRTs will multisyc to.

But emulators are great for having 1000s of games at your immediate disposal! (if you aren't used to the response and framerate of the real thing)

I have one of those ArcadePC video cards in my mamebox with a 25" monitor, it'll display all my mame games in their native resolutions, I can even pivot the screen if I want, it's pretty pimpin. Haven't really experimented with other resolutions, but I was going to try to get the AtariST medium res to work on it, never looks right emulated.


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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Knight to Kirkman on Mon Apr 14 2014 03:13 am

I'm not sure about the pricing, since I'm not a big retro collector. But my guess is that the Atari ST/TT/Falcons would tend to be more expensive than other old PCs since they were never as popular and sold in much smaller numbers.

Any suggestions on where to pick them up affordably?

Craigslist, the Marketplace on AtariAge.com, retrocomputing clubs on Facebook, For Sale board on Atari-Forum.com.

--Josh


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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Kirkman to Knight on Wed Apr 16 2014 11:04 am

Craigslist, the Marketplace on AtariAge.com, retrocomputing clubs on Faceboo For Sale board on Atari-Forum.com.

Thanks, I'll have to take a look!

Knight

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I am looking for a working copy of a BBS program for the ST called "BB/ST". If you find a copy or heaven fobid an actual original program disc/box/manual I'll pay you a lot of $$$ for it. I'm also looking for an ST, I don't have one at the moment.

Aha, you must be Andy then. I responded to your Facebook post about this in
the BBS thread.

I am not familiar with this BBS software, but if anybody would be, they'd probably be on atari-forum.com.

--Josh

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Re: Hello everyone
By: Android8675 to Froggyme on Wed Apr 16 2014 08:13 am

I have one of those ArcadePC video cards in my mamebox with a 25" monitor, it'll display all my mame games in their native resolutions, I can even pivot the screen if I want, it's pretty pimpin. Haven't really

Wow, nice!

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Kirkman to Knight on Wed Apr 16 2014 11:04 am

I'm not sure about the pricing, since I'm not a big retro collector.
But my guess is that the Atari ST/TT/Falcons would tend to be more
expensive than other old PCs since they were never as popular and
sold in much smaller numbers.

Any suggestions on where to pick them up affordably?

Craigslist, the Marketplace on AtariAge.com, retrocomputing clubs on Facebook, For Sale board on Atari-Forum.com.

B&C ComputerVisions is pretty good, I think. They always have a nice booth at the Classic Gaming Expo.

http://www.myatari.com/

Bravo Sierra Computers looks like a good place to buy refurbished Ataris too. His site has lots of fun content to read.

http://www.aracnet.com/~atari/

FroggyMe

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Knight to Kirkman on Thu Apr 17 2014 02:14 am

Craigslist, the Marketplace on AtariAge.com, retrocomputing clubs on
Faceboo For Sale board on Atari-Forum.com.

Thanks, I'll have to take a look!

Good luck, been looking for a reasonably priced ST (that's not a 1040STf) for a while. Usually an STf means you need a ST monitor which can cost a lot to ship, and are rarely in decent shape, but I guess you could always mod the system.

I really want an Amiga, but those seem to be a bit more rare/expensive, not to mention a little harder to setup, but both systems have their fair share of modifications. There's a new ST mod coming soon that's supposed to be a huge improvement of the UltraSatan (Floppy drive replacement), but I haven't looked into it much.


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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Kirkman to Android8675 on Fri Apr 18 2014 08:57 pm

Aha, you must be Andy then. I responded to your Facebook post about this in the BBS thread.

haha, yeah, das is va. (or however the germans spell it)


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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Froggyme to Kirkman on Mon Apr 21 2014 11:57 pm

Bravo Sierra Computers looks like a good place to buy refurbished Ataris too. His site has lots of fun content to read.

http://www.aracnet.com/~atari/

$400 for a Mega ST4 I don't think is too bad. I may even consider getting one. I gotta look into VGA mods though, I really don't want to buy an ST monitor if I can avoid it.


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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Android8675 to Kirkman on Tue Apr 22 2014 09:53:15

haha, yeah, das is va. (or however the germans spell it)

Das ist mich? ;)


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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Android8675 to Froggyme on Tue Apr 22 2014 10:08:04

http://www.aracnet.com/~atari/

$400 for a Mega ST4 I don't think is too bad. I may even consider getting on I gotta look into VGA mods though, I really don't want to buy an ST monitor I can avoid it.

Yeah, I couldn't help but check out some of those sites after I
saw you guys talking about all of this stuff, too. I've only had the
8-bit hardware, although I always wanted the STs, TTs, and Falcon stuff
as well. I don't know much about the OSes on those, though. Can't you
run some *NIX derivative on at least some of those? I could swear that
I've seen something about being able to run a Linux variant on at least
(I think it was) the STs... If I can run a *NIX variant on any of them,
I'll probably end up picking up one of those at some point, as well as
an 8-bit system again.


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Re: Atari Hardware (was Re: Hello Everyone)
By: Khelair to Android8675 on Wed Apr 23 2014 06:58 am

Yeah, I couldn't help but check out some of those sites after I
saw you guys talking about all of this stuff, too. I've only had the
8-bit hardware, although I always wanted the STs, TTs, and Falcon stuff
as well. I don't know much about the OSes on those, though. Can't you
run some *NIX derivative on at least some of those? I could swear that
I've seen something about being able to run a Linux variant on at least
(I think it was) the STs... If I can run a *NIX variant on any of them,

Really only the TT and Falcon have the horsepower for Linux. Atari had developed its own unix implementation for thos machines, but it got shelved. Later Atari fans got their hands on it and released it.

But there are other independent unix systems. MiNT is a popular one.


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Re: Atari Hardware (was Re: Hello Everyone)
By: Khelair to Android8675 on Wed Apr 23 2014 06:58 am

Yeah, I couldn't help but check out some of those sites after I
saw you guys talking about all of this stuff, too. I've only had the 8-bit hardware, although I always wanted the STs, TTs, and Falcon stuff
as well. I don't know much about the OSes on those, though. Can't you run some *NIX derivative on at least some of those? I could swear that

So if I had neither system, I would get an 8-bit, it's a better machine I think, and a lot of people feel the ST is kind of a poor man's Amiga, but all three are wonderful machines, but just saying I've gotten more use out of my 800 lately than I ever thought I would, of course I got lucky and got an Incognito board for it which makes the system Sing quite nicely. I've heard some guy is working on a new ST mod that adds a ton of great features.

So the ST series runs on a TOS ROMset (the OS is on chips installed in the computer, but I've heard there is a flavor of *nix that you can run on high end ST series system (TT, Falcon), but I've never looked into it. Basic STs though I wouldn't try running *nix on it, but you can test this theory by trying it out on some emulators before making a big ST hardware investment.

I'll probably end up picking up one of those at some point, as well as
an 8-bit system again.

I may get an ST one of these days, but bills...


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Re: Atari Hardware (was Re: Hello Everyone)
By: Khelair to Android8675 on Wed Apr 23 2014 06:58 am

8-bit hardware, although I always wanted the STs, TTs, and Falcon stuff
as well. I don't know much about the OSes on those, though. Can't you run some *NIX derivative on at least some of those? I could swear that I've seen something about being able to run a Linux variant on at least
(I think it was) the STs... If I can run a *NIX variant on any of them, I'll probably end up picking up one of those at some point, as well as
an 8-bit system again.

Hey Khelair,

I posted some links a couple weeks ago about MiNT, but I don't mind doing it again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiTOS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpareMiNT http://sparemint.atariforge.net/sparemint/
http://xaaes.atariforge.net/
http://myaes.lutece.net/

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Atari Mega ST2! I want an Atari Falcon with a 68060 within. Have you tried the Linux distro MiNT for your ST?

The 68060 would probably be fun to learn to program assembler on.
It'd also probably be even cooler if you had some of the older assembler's
like on the 6502/6510's made for the 68060. Sadly, I know very little of
the 68xxx series processors, other than that they're RISC based
processors. I faintly remember seeing code at one time. Then again,
from what I remember, they shared a common feature that modern Intel
CPU's share that would drive me nuts. That concurrent instruction set
thing... Eg. Your adding 2 numbers together, but because the first
instruction is loading the value into it, and the second instruction
is adding 5 to that register, then the second instruction gets stalled
waiting on the value to be loaded so that it can add to it, rather than
running at the same time... Having to constantly re-think how your code
will run so that it has no stalls is a royal pain in the rear!
They introduced that to an extent in the 80486, just as soon as you
learned how to code that, they changed it around in the 80586. You
got the hang of the changes, and they then started releasing newer
chips that changed the rules faster than you could keep up with them!

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Have you looked at Broadband-Hamnet? It basically lets you use a ham license to use more powerful antennas and signal strength to create a
wide area network using run of the mill Linksys wifi routers over 20-30 miles. It's a mesh network. It's perfect for SHTF and emergency situations. Also, others can automatically join your network and it extends the access. Kind of a self organizing private internet.

Definitely something I'd be interested in. Are you talking about just modifying the antenna, or using digital HF radio with AX.25? I've got a
friend in Florida who I could probably get converted to a HAM at the thought
of extending his Wifi to 20-30 miles... Actually, he'd just be happy with it
in his apartment.... ;-) He kept trying to extend the range down stairs in
his apartment, but kept getting interferance. I told him to use a laptop and walk around the house trying to find where the signal drops the worse... He found it. It was his brand new blue-tooth head phones he was so proud of, because his wife bought them for him for Christmas... He took those head
phones back and to this day he still hates that they where the problem! But given the choice of no internet down stairs and no netflix on the living room TV, he figures he can just use the speaker phone instead of his head phones. :-)

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Re: Atari Hardware (was Re: Hello Everyone)
By: Froggyme to Khelair on Mon Apr 28 2014 00:24:50

I posted some links a couple weeks ago about MiNT, but I don't mind doing it again.

Why thank you, sir. I believe last time I was in a bit of a rush with things and wasn't able to get them down or check them out yet. Much appreciated. :)

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Guh up the effbomb down wif yr bad self; seriously. That means 'shut
the effbomb up, in the parlance of the first child I raised from birth
on . . . I recommend it because my patience with people that are only
interested in passing judgement and making pointless jabs without
knowing the exact facts about what they're dealing with is waning.
Consider yrself warned.
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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: John Guillory to Knight on Tue Apr 29 2014 05:02 am

Have you looked at Broadband-Hamnet? It basically lets you use a ham
license to use more powerful antennas and signal strength to create
a wide area network using run of the mill Linksys wifi routers over
20-30 miles. It's a mesh network. It's perfect for SHTF and
emergency situations. Also, others can automatically join your
network and it extends the access. Kind of a self organizing private
internet.

Definitely something I'd be interested in. Are you talking about just modifying the antenna, or using digital HF radio with AX.25? I've got a

No, you use conventional wifi access points. You don't use a regular amateur radio. What makes this ham oriented is:

1) Channels 1-6 of conventional 802.11b/g wifi is within the 2.4ghz amateur band. This means that FCC part 97 rules apply instead of part 15.

2) Since part 97 rules apply, if you are licensed then you can augment by boosting power to standard ham rules (as little power as necessary to communicate without causing disturbance), as well as use high gain antennas.

You can get about 10-15 miles using stock power and high gain antennas. If you boost the power on both ends, then you stand a chance to hit 20-30.

The way Broadband-Hamnet works is that you install custom firmware on your Linksys WRT54Gs and WRT54GLs, and then they immediately hunt for and automatically connect to other Broadband-Hamnet nodes. They do this by broadcasting an unencrypted SSID (a specific SSID of BroadbandHamnet-v1), and use various mesh software (OLSR to determine automatic routing, etc). All nodes within range are always connected to each other.

So you can imagine how easy it is to setup a bunch of these in an area and get nice coverage.

To stay compliant, your callsign is part of the hostname, and a ping is sent out every 10 minutes or so.

friend in Florida who I could probably get converted to a HAM at the thought of extending his Wifi to 20-30 miles... Actually, he'd just be happy with it in his apartment.... ;-) He kept trying to extend the
range down stairs in his apartment, but kept getting interferance. I
told him to use a laptop and walk around the house trying to find where the signal drops the worse... He found it. It was his brand new blue-tooth head phones he was so proud of, because his wife bought them for him for Christmas... He took those head phones back and to this day
he still hates that they where the problem! But given the choice of no internet down stairs and no netflix on the living room TV, he figures he can just use the speaker phone instead of his head phones. :-)

Yeah, he'll dig it. Unfortunately, it's not encrypted or secure, and it's not exactly a good thing to use for standard internet use. While you can very easily offer the mesh access to the Internet, you have to take responsibility for content/traffic that violates Part 97.
Knight

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Knight to Froggyme on Sun Apr 13 2014 01:02 am

Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Froggyme to Skuz on Mon Mar 31 2014 12:10 am

Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Skuz to Belzo on Sun Mar 30 2014 04:27 pm

bread, chopping fire wood, or playing with the grandkids. It also, h

as

given me a reason to bring back an old network (Survnet) relating to survival and self-reliance. There may sometime, come-a-day when the

SHT

F

and we all will wish there was another board to call up (dial) ATDT xxx-xxx-xxx for news and information on just how can someone help me return to my father's roots. The barter system will never die.. It m

igh

t

even be coming to a BBS system near you, when the SHTF (:

I'd like to add Survnet too.

Count me in on Survnet!

Knight (The Phunc BBS)

Count me in, as well - I've got quite a bit of interest in survivalism and such.
You'll have to shoot me a message through the BBS to get in touch with me - I haven't gotten my site up yet.
THAT ONE BBS - Britches and hose for all the guys - thatonebbs.no-ip.org:23

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given me a reason to bring back an old network (Survnet) relat survival and self-reliance. There may sometime, come-a-day whe even be coming to a BBS system near you, when the SHTF (:

I'd like to add Survnet too.

Count me in on Survnet!
Knight (The Phunc BBS)

Count me in, as well - I've got quite a bit of interest in survivalism
and such.
You'll have to shoot me a message through the BBS to get in touch with
me - I haven't gotten my site up yet.
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While I am not a 'prepper', and hate the term 'survivalist', I'd love to
carry Survnet, it would be right up my board's alley. KF5QEO's Shack, at kingcoder.net You can reache me via mainline through vert (however you
specify that...), or you can reach me at 1:396/60@fidonet, and if you prefer, westlakegeek@yahoo.com

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: John Guillory to Tau Xi on Tue May 06 2014 12:28 am

Count me in on Survnet!
Knight (The Phunc BBS)

Count me in, as well - I've got quite a bit of interest in
survivalism and such.
You'll have to shoot me a message through the BBS to get in touch
with me - I haven't gotten my site up yet.
THAT ONE BBS - Britches and hose for all the guys -
thatonebbs.no-ip.org:23 ---

While I am not a 'prepper', and hate the term 'survivalist', I'd love to carry Survnet, it would be right up my board's alley. KF5QEO's Shack, at kingcoder.net You can reache me via mainline through vert (however you specify that...), or you can reach me at 1:396/60@fidonet, and if you prefer, westlakegeek@yahoo.com

Hey JG,

Let's be in touch. Ham and survival? we have lots in common.
Knight

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Let's be in touch. Ham and survival? we have lots in common.
Knight

Yeah, Hams provide communications when emergencies happen and no other forms of communications exist. During field Day, we prepare for what
preppers like to call SHTF. But I'm not going to stock-pile a warehouse of food, and live life in the fear that I'll be nuked or something. I do see a lot of preppers like to purchase ham equipment and illegally use it to establish communications with their neighbors, etc. Sadly, I've got a friend who claims he's going to get licensed to use the radio, but uses it for now
on frequencies the hams aren't using... All I can say is, if the FCC catches him, he'll regret it! I'm not about to turn someone in for illegal use of frequencies, unless they get to be too annoying... But, Ham's are taught
that if you don't use your frequencies, and you don't defend your frequencies by reporting anyone illegally using them, you'll eventually loose the right
to primary access to those frequencies. Some frequencies, personally, I find kind of useless, but if there's a ham out there that wants to use it.... Feel free! Now from 2 meters through 80 meters... That's where hams aren't going
to want to give up a single frequency!

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: John Guillory to Knight on Wed May 07 2014 09:00 am

Yeah, Hams provide communications when emergencies happen and no other forms of communications exist. During field Day, we prepare for what preppers like to call SHTF. But I'm not going to stock-pile a warehouse of food, and live life in the fear that I'll be nuked or something. I
do see a lot of preppers like to purchase ham equipment and illegally
use it to establish communications with their neighbors, etc. Sadly,
I've got a friend who claims he's going to get licensed to use the
radio, but uses it for now on frequencies the hams aren't using... All
I can say is, if the FCC catches him, he'll regret it! I'm not about to turn someone in for illegal use of frequencies, unless they get to be
too annoying... But, Ham's are taught that if you don't use your frequencies, and you don't defend your frequencies by reporting anyone illegally using them, you'll eventually loose the right to primary
access to those frequencies. Some frequencies, personally, I find kind
of useless, but if there's a ham out there that wants to use it.... Feel free! Now from 2 meters through 80 meters... That's where hams aren't going to want to give up a single frequency!

I'm not licensed myself, yet I do own two very nice handhelds (an old Yeasu FT-530 I've had for 2 decades and a new ICOM ID-51a), and a box of about 15-20 of the cheap BaoFeng UV-5R's (I've given a few away as gifts).

I've studied for the test a million times. The hardest thing for me is to get up and go to the test centers at the butt crack of dawn. But, I do plan to in the next few weeks (sometimes they have evening test times).

So, even though I've been a radio enthusiast for over 20 years, I've never actually transmitted or held a two way conversation. Really. I'm a lurker. (I even built a little sight where I log things I hear at http://radioworld.me)

But, I'm looking forward to getting licensed so I can start talking on the birds and even get a packet bbs up.
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I'm not licensed myself, yet I do owntwo very nice handhelds (an old
Yeasu FT-530 I've had for 2 decades and a new ICOM ID-51a), and a box of about 15-20 of the cheap BaoFeng UV-5R's (I've given a few away as
gifts).

The only handhelds I'm really familiar with are the Baofeng's, and even then, they've come out with so many varients it's hard to keep up with them.
I have a Yaesu FT-857 that isn't working right now, and a Kenwood TS-140s,
as well as a Baofeng UV-3R and UV-5R. The ICOM radio's I've seen are
Extremely nice! Though I haven't really looked at the hand helds. One question comes to mind being an ICOM, is it D-Star? If so, that could be interesting listening to!

I've studied for the test a million times. The hardest thing for me is to get up and go to the test centers at the butt crack of dawn. But, I do plan to in the next few weeks (sometimes they have evening test times).

Are you studying for both the Tech and the General, or just the tech? Or all three? It kind of depends on how you study as to how hard it is to pass. I pretty much did mine the hard way. I got some cram course materials off the net and read over it a few times late at night, then started taking the test
on QRZ over and over till I could pass it regularly... Now one thing you
might want to know, I heard the technician test changes in June, so you may want to get a move on taking the test...

never actually transmitted or held a two way conversation. Really. I'm a lurker. (I even built a little sight where I log things I hear at http://radioworld.me)

There are people that will send out a SWL card (Similiar to a QSL card) if
you send them a card and say that you heard them, when you heard them, etc. just like a QSL card but scratch out QSL and put SWL instead... As far as
the lurking... A lot of hams are guilty of that. In fact, I gotta admit, I
go in the office, get on the computer, launch my logging program, make a few contacts, start reading the BBS mail, and listen to a few rag chewing folks
and keep saying "I'll break-in in a minute!" and never do... By the time I
grab the microphone, the guy says "I've gotta leave, time for dinner!" and I say "Oh well, maybe next time..." ;-)

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: John Guillory to Knight on Fri May 09 2014 09:53 pm

The only handhelds I'm really familiar with are the Baofeng's, and
even then, they've come out with so many varients it's hard to keep up with them. I have a Yaesu FT-857 that isn't working right now, and a Kenwood TS-140s,
as well as a Baofeng UV-3R and UV-5R. The ICOM radio's I've seen are Extremely nice! Though I haven't really looked at the hand helds. One question comes to mind being an ICOM, is it D-Star? If so, that could
be interesting listening to!

The BaoFengs are pretty damn decent for how cheap they are. I waited until I saw the UV-5Rs drop down to about $24 each, and bought a bunch. Good to have in case of emergency, and to give to others to encourage them into the hobby. You get what you pay for, etc.

As for the ICOM, yep, it's D-Star. There are a couple of local gateways that I can listen in on. The quality of the audio you receive is incredible. I haven't been able to transmit yet, so once I get my license we'll see how well the whole D-Star network works. I'm guessing you can connect out to people all over the world on it.

Are you studying for both the Tech and the General, or just the tech? Or all three? It kind of depends on how you study as to how hard it is to pass. I pretty much did mine the hard way. I got some cram course materials off the net and read over it a few times late at night, then started taking the test on QRZ over and over till I could pass it regularly... Now one thing you might want to know, I heard the technician test changes in June, so you may want to get a move on taking the test...

Thanks for the heads up. I probably should make a strong effort to get the Technician's license in May. Then I can try to get a Generals in July.

There are people that will send out a SWL card (Similiar to a QSL card) if you send them a card and say that you heard them, when you heard them, etc. just like a QSL card but scratch out QSL and put SWL instead... As far as the lurking... A lot of hams are guilty of that. In fact, I gotta admit, I go in the office, get on the computer, launch my logging program, make a few contacts, start reading the BBS mail, and listen to a few rag chewing folks and keep saying "I'll break-in in a minute!" and never do... By the time I grab the microphone, the guy says "I've gotta leave, time for dinner!" and I say "Oh well, maybe next time..." ;-)

Once I'm licensed I definitely want to print up some QSL and SWL cards. I love the idea of sending them out, and I really want to receive them. I like how they each have a personalized feel, often matching some kind of element of where they live.

I send greeting cards (thank you cards, holiday cards, etc) using a variety of digital services on the net, such as Ink on iPhone, so I wonder if one of them would do postcards with a custom design, and then I don't have to worry about mailing them myself.

A big reason I made radioworld.me is because most of the other sites are so ham focused (like qrz.com), but there's a huge world of radio enthusiasts who aren't licensed too. I'm hoping that eventually there will be enough users on it that you can see interesting receptions in realtime, such as when a new numbers station is airing. A lot of work to do on it until it reaches that point. (The mobile apps will help!)
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As for the ICOM, yep, it's D-Star. There are a couple of local gateways that I can listen in on. The quality of the audio you receive is incredible. I haven't been able to transmit yet, so once I get my
license we'll see how well the whole D-Star network works. I'm guessing you can connect out to people all over the world on it.

D-Star is an interesting case... Folks claim "it's open source, you just
need one proprietary chip for the codec" O.k. But because of that one
chip, no other company will make a radio that uses it... And, they've
got motorolla's version which was supposed to release some ham radios
with their 'mototurbo' protocol. Similiar to d-star... Both have pluses
and minuses... Likewise, from what I've seen, you sorta go against what
is taught when using the d-star modes... I don't have d-star, just watched
videos of folks using it. One network a guy was on, everyone was supposed
to just key their microphone and not say anything, to allow the net
control to see their ID's on the screen. O.k. But to me, that's not
in accordance to the FCC rules. I know technically, they're ID'ing via
digital mode, so I guess that's how they get away with it, but...
With D-Star, there's repeaters all over the world, you can punch in
the repeater number you want to connect to, and be listening to eg.
New York, California, washington... There can be thousands of repeaters
linked at once, and if your repeater supports d-star, you can be out in
the field and connect to another state's repeater just by hitting a code
on your radio. If your repeater don't support it, you can buy a dongle
for your computer and connect your radio to d-star via the dongle (wireless)
as long as your in range of your laptop and have internet...

Thanks for the heads up. I probably should make a strong effort to get
the Technician's license in May. Then I can try to get a Generals in
July.

I'm not positive (you can check qrz), but usually the general questions
expire one year after the tech questions... So the general license is
not as big of a hurry... I just know I read elsewhere that someone said
Tech questions expire this June. (end of june). And if you have issues
with any questions, once you become a general, you can vote to change
them.

Once I'm licensed I definitely want to print up some QSL and SWL cards.
I love the idea of sending them out, and I really want to receive them.
I like how they each have a personalized feel, often matching some kind
of element of where they live.

Yup, I have to admit, I think I'd rather just print them up as I need them.
I paid a small price to have a bunch printed up for me, and been using
them, but the fields are confusing as all get out the way they did these.
And they look kinda plain compared to most... They do the job, but will
later on print some more myself...

A big reason I made radioworld.me is because most of the other sites are so ham focused (like qrz.com),but there's a huge world of radio enthusiasts who aren't licensed too. I'm hoping that eventually there
will be enough users on it that you can see interesting receptions in realtime, such as when a new numbers station is airing. A lot of work to do on ituntil it reaches that point. (The mobile apps will help!)

Will need to check it out. Do you have a mobile app? I write software
for Android and have an account on Google Playstore and Amazon Market.
Depending on what your looking for. Simple mobile access to the website
or something is actually pretty easy...

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: John Guillory to Knight on Sat May 10 2014 09:46 pm

D-Star is an interesting case... Folks claim "it's open source, you just
need one proprietary chip for the codec" O.k. But because of that one
chip, no other company will make a radio that uses it... And, they've
got motorolla's version which was supposed to release some ham radios
with their 'mototurbo' protocol. Similiar to d-star... Both have pluses
and minuses... Likewise, from what I've seen, you sorta go against what
is taught when using the d-star modes... I don't have d-star, just watched
videos of folks using it. One network a guy was on, everyone was supposed
to just key their microphone and not say anything, to allow the net
control to see their ID's on the screen. O.k. But to me, that's not
in accordance to the FCC rules. I know technically, they're ID'ing via
digital mode, so I guess that's how they get away with it, but...
With D-Star, there's repeaters all over the world, you can punch in
the repeater number you want to connect to, and be listening to eg.
New York, California, washington... There can be thousands of repeaters
linked at once, and if your repeater supports d-star, you can be out in
the field and connect to another state's repeater just by hitting a code
on your radio. If your repeater don't support it, you can buy a dongle
for your computer and connect your radio to d-star via the dongle (wireless)
as long as your in range of your laptop and have internet...

Exactly. Seems like a digital showdown between the big amateur radio manufacturers. That makes me a little unhappy. I'd like to see one amazing standard that they all support, rather than need to pick one and hope there are enough users on it.

I listen to IRLP and EchoLink as well. But, man, once you hear D-Star you wish everything sounded that clear.

Yup, I have to admit, I think I'd rather just print them up as I need them.
I paid a small price to have a bunch printed up for me, and been using them, but the fields are confusing as all get out the way they did
these. And they look kinda plain compared to most... They do the job,
but will later on print some more myself...

Nice! I'll have to hear you sometime so you can send me an SWL card ;)

e apps will help!) Will need to check it out. Do you have a
mobile app? I write software
for Android and have an account on Google Playstore and Amazon Market.
Depending on what your looking for. Simple mobile access to the website
or something is actually pretty easy...

Do you? That's great. I've been working on an iPhone app, but don't do Android dev. Maybe you want to write one? The site is all REST and spits out JSON, so it'll be really easy to write something to talk to it. I'd love the help. It was alway my view to make the site an enthusiast run and supported one.

I hope that it will eventually make it easy to post what you're hearing, so that friends can see what their buddies are listening to or talking with, and have a one click tune. So if I'm hearing a russian numbers station, then my friend can get an alert and immediately be streaming it to their app, or automatically tune their rig to hear it.

And then, allow everyone to chat/message about what they're hearing.

That's pretty shortwave focused, but it works with local stuff too. Then I can see where my local ham buddies are hanging out, and join them.
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Exactly. Seems like a digital showdown between the big amateur radio manufacturers. That makes me a little unhappy. I'd liketo see one amazing standard that they all support, rather than need to pick one and hope there are enough users on it.

There's a standard that may arise. I think it's DV-Voice. Right now,
you download software and use a signalink or similiar device to transmit on Side Bands, much like you'd talk voice, but instead it's sending digital.
It's also a bit contreversial, because if you follow up on ARRL, they're
trying to basically erase the band plan as we know it today. Rather than having one part of the band for digital and one part for voice, etc. we'd pretty much have the entire band for whatever we choose, as long as the bandwidth doesn't exceed that of the normal side bands. But as they said,
the down fall to that is, folks hear a bunch of beeps and haven't a clue what they're listening to, what program to use, etc. At least now, you know 14.070 is psk31, 14.080 is rtty, etc.

I listen to IRLP and EchoLink as well. But, man, once you hear D-Star
you wish everything sounded that clear.

I can imagine. FM's somewhat like that, but if the person your talking
to gets out of range, it gets bad. I think D-Star is similiar, you have an excellent clarity, but the farther away from the repeater, then it reaches a point where it just can't correct the noise and starts getting bad... I believe D-Star has warble when the person gets away from the repeater...

Nice! I'll have to hear you sometime so you can send me an SWL card ;)

I stay on either 28.4, or 20 meters, usually close to 14.265. Rarely
am I on 40 meters, especially after the last little conversation with
some jerks with an attitude... It must be nice to know everything and
be able to control band conditons and all. ;-) I need to get my
antenna higher up. It's horrible for 80-40 meters. I know I'm told
this time of the year, those bands are noisy to begin with, but
I may have a problem with a noisy power line, combined with my antenna
being barely the right height for 20 meters, makes it the worse case
scenerio for 80 meters and not much better for 40 meters.

Do you? That's great. I've been working on an iPhone app, but don't do Android dev. Maybe you want to write one? The site is all REST and spits out JSON, so it'll be really easy to write something to talk to it. I'd love the help. It was alway my view to make the site an enthusiast run
and supported one.

I use Basic4Android and Fusion 2.5 for my Android work. Will have to
take a look at the website and see... I saw a cool echo in I believe the
Communications Net. Much like what you described... Eg. I listen to
the scanner. I hear a bad fire, I go and post what I hear on the echo.
Cool idea, but either no one's listening to the scanner, or no one's
posting... I gotta admit I haven't listened to the scanner in a while,
despite buying a nice antenna and battery for an old scanner I managed
to find. I also haven't really talked on the radio as much as I used
to.

I hope that it will eventually make it easy to post what you're hearing, so that friends can see what their buddies are listening to or talking with, and have a one click tune. So if I'm hearing a russian numbers station, then my friend can get an alert and immediately be streaming it to their app, or automatically tune their rig to hear it.

There's a site I have to find... I sent a copy of the file to my
friends in the radio club. It was a scanner enthusiast or something like that. The file, someone else sent in one of the radio mailing list. The page had a list of frequencies from Very Low Frequency on up to High Frequency range. I got the list originally, because I was wanting to receive weather fax's, and was told to look on the list for maritime fax services... I never really got
a fax from any of the frequencies on the list. In fact, I listened to various frequencies and never really noticed anything on it at the time. My friend
at the meeting showed it to some of the others and told them they had to
get it... The list had several military frequencies being used close to 20 meters. My friend programmed the frequencies into his scanner and kind of forgot about it for a while. He didn't hear anything at the time... One
night, he started hearing a bunch of talk on the radio from the Feds about something that had a bunch of codes in it.



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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: Knight to John Guillory on Sun May 11 2014 02:25 am

Exactly. Seems like a digital showdown between the big amateur radio manufacturers. That makes me a little unhappy. I'd like to see one amazing standard that they all support, rather than need to pick one and hope there are enough users on it.

P25 (C4FM) uses AMBE just like DStar, and TETRA uses ACELP. The only open codec I'm aware of is Codec2, and there's no off-the-shelf solution available for it yet (I think there's going to be something presented at Dayton this year
though).

The odds of getting an ASIC for Codec2 are pretty low though, so it will likely
always be more expensive to add in than the patended modes available on an ASIC.

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Re: Re: Hello everyone
By: John Guillory to Froggyme on Tue Apr 29 2014 04:39 am

It'd also probably be even cooler if you had some of the older assembler's
like on the 6502/6510's made for the 68060. Sadly, I know very little of
the 68xxx series processors, other than that they're RISC based

The Motorola 68k's were CISC processors (not RISC). Not a biggie, but just wanted to clarify that little trivial point. :-)

digital man

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