So I have looked up certain sites describing what BBS is and they
weren't very clear, though they were very nostalgic. They mentioned that there were shareware, articles etc. shared on the BBS which they said
was like an actual bulletin board, only digital.
But this kind of left the whole issue vague, so I was hoping you guys could tell me what BBS is from a more personal point of view.
Thanks for the warm welcome, everybody. I definitely plan to stick around.
But this kind of left the whole issue vague, so I was hoping you guys could tell me what BBS is from a more personal point of view.
Back in the day, when BBSes were the main way to be online, it was an interesting time. I think one of the biggest differences between then and today is that most people today have internet connections that are always connected; but back then, you couldn't always be connected to a BBS, for several reasons: BBSes had a small number of phone lines (many had only one line), so sometimes you couldn't get in to your favorite BBSes because other users were already logged on. Typically you had to set up your software to repeatedly dial in for a while until it got connected. However, I think it pretty cool to be able to see many different BBSes with their own look & fee and interact with a local group of users.
Thanks. I'll check out the links you gave. I think, from the impression I get, that the BBS and the internet in general back then was a more "elite" place, mostly for the people now called "geeks". Using the net was more difficult and only a certain type of people, usually introverts got on. Also, I feel like it was a more understanding community and there were less hostile people around. Is this accurate, or am I off base?
Thanks. I'll check out the links you gave. I think, from the impression
I get, that the BBS and the internet in general back then was a more "elite" place, mostly for the people now called "geeks". Using the net
was more difficult and only a certain type of people, usually introverts got on.
Also, I feel like it was a more understanding community and
there were less hostile people around. Is this accurate, or am I off
base?
since everyone dialed in locally for the most part, we'd get together at the pizza place every month, what was called a user meet, but everyone called affectionately the 'loser meet'. everyone kind of has an idea of who everyone is before seeing them. you didn't really have much digital photography then, just scanners, which were expensive throughout the
80's, or at least to my pre-teen mind they were. but you'd have quite a few outcasts. but we kind of developed a network of friends that was
cool because we met people at other schools that we wouldn't have come across. anyhow, that was one of the great things about bbs's, imho, was the forced locality, and something that seems hard to recreate in
today's world unless the satellites fall from the sky and we have to use our landlines again.
i was a teen in the bay area and they had free computer magazines by the newspapers where there would be a list of about 2 pages of BBS's, basically classified ads. it was a way for ordinary people to run
online systems when things like AOL, compuserve, and prodigy were
typical.
when i was a kid i spent a lot of time on one bbs that had 8 lines and ranthe major bbs software by worldcomm i believe. good times. i was a cosysop of that board, so i got free time, but the idea was you'd pay
for access as well. might seem absurd now, but if you had to pay another phone bill for each simultaneous user of your website for instance,
you'd get the idea.|
anyhow, that was one of the great things about bbs's, imho, was the forced locality, and something that seems hard to recreate in today's world unless the satellites fall from the sky and we have to use our landlines again.
I also lived in the bay area (I'm assuming the S.F. Bay area?) about that and also frequented a few MajorBBS boards in that area. What one are you referring to. I would have to say tho, that the ones I frequented did not really cater to underage callers. It was called Inferno.
Re: Re: Tell me about BBS
By: Gryphon to LaRRy LaGoMoRpH on Sun Mar 16 2014 04:52 pm
I also lived in the bay area (I'm assuming the S.F. Bay area?) about and also frequented a few MajorBBS boards in that area. What one ar referring to. I would have to say tho, that the ones I frequented d really cater to underage callers. It was called Inferno.
I remember the Inferno, run by Awesomebill if I recall. It was the
first BBS I called IIRC and Awesomebill became my first enemy by banning me from his board. I don't know how long I lasted on the inferno, maybe
a few weeks. Inferno had like 16 lines if I recall. I've got a user on my bbs that used to be on the inferno big time, i think his name on
there was budman.
i eventually found Infodude, which had a modest 4 lines at the time, and directed people there, and i was the macintosh cosysop so i got free
time and power. eventually we got to 8 lines. infodude was run by the manager of the computer attic super store on el camino, which imho, was the coolest computer store in the area (in redwood city, i think it's
now a ferrari dealership or something by where mel's bowl used to be). anyhow, when you dropped by the computer store, you could also chat with the sysop and get treated pretty well for a punk ass kid messing with expensive computers after you rode up on your bike. good times. eventually infodude had to end, it was too expensive to have 8 phone
lines and get kids to scrape their money together to pay, especially
once they turn 16 and wind up with vehicles.
however, there still was kewl bbs in san carlos i might call, i'd say infodude users and kewl users had some similarities. inferno came
first, then infodude, then kewl if i recall. I think kewl bbs was up until last year even (hopefully she went down gracefully). but i'd call kewl when infodude's lines got busy, although i was pretty good at
making redial scripts to try to get in when the busy signal went away.
I have started a collection of BBS-related podcast episodes. I haven't "announced" it yet, because there are still a few loose ends to tie up. But you may want to give some of these podcasts a listen:
newspapers where there would be a list of about 2 pages of BBS's, basically classified ads. it was a way for ordinary people to run online systems
if someone could only scan their copies of boardwatch.
that would be a great bbs treasure.
jason scott has them in his shipping crate but refuses to mess with the stuff in there anymore. he's too busy growing weird facial hair, buying
dumb tophats and wearing angel wings.
that's a great collection. now if we could only change the name from 'podcasts' to something else. i always thought it was a stupid word for it.
I know you don't like him, but he's been up to a lot more than you give him credit for: the JSMESS in-browser 8-bit emulator, terabytes of software and magazines added to the Internet Archive, etc, etc.
Re: Re: Tell me about BBS
By: Kirkman to Mro on Sat Mar 22 2014 04:56 pm
I know you don't like him, but he's been up to a lot more than you give h credit for: the JSMESS in-browser 8-bit emulator, terabytes of software a magazines added to the Internet Archive, etc, etc.
well, i dont know the guy, so i cant really like him or dislike him.
okay, i take that back. i think he's fucking ridiculios
that's a great collection. now if we could only change the name from 'podcasts' to something else. i always thought it was a stupid word for it.
thing that's good. I didn't know he was still active, though. Are there others like him trying to keep the older era of the internet and BBS alive or at least archived somewhere?
Thanks for the warm welcome, everybody. I definitely plan to stick around.
So I have looked up certain sites describing what BBS is and they weren't very clear, though they were very nostalgic. They mentioned that there were shareware, articles etc. shared on the BBS which they said was like an actual bulletin board, only digital.
But this kind of left the whole issue vague, so I was hoping you guys could tell me what BBS is from a more personal point of view.
Thanks.
Re: Tell me about BBS
By: Nightfox to Vistascan on Sat Mar 15 2014 08:55 am
dBack in the day, when BBSes were the main way to be online, it was an interesting time. I think one of the biggest differences between then an
netoday is that most people today have internet connections that are always connected; but back then, you couldn't always be connected to a BBS, for several reasons: BBSes had a small number of phone lines (many had only o
herline), so sometimes you couldn't get in to your favorite BBSes because ot
tousers were already logged on. Typically you had to set up your software
itrepeatedly dial in for a while until it got connected. However, I think
feepretty cool to be able to see many different BBSes with their own look &
and interact with a local group of users.
Thanks. I'll check out the links you gave. I think, from the impression I get, that the BBS and the internet in general back then was a more "elite" place, mostly for the people now called "geeks". Using the net was more difficult and only a certain type of people, usually introverts got on. Also,
I feel like it was a more understanding community and there were less hostile
people around. Is this accurate, or am I off base?
Re: Tell me about BBSand
By: Vistascan to All on Sat Mar 15 2014 04:56 am
i was a teen in the bay area and they had free computer magazines by the newspapers where there would be a list of about 2 pages of BBS's, basically classified ads. it was a way for ordinary people to run online systems when things like AOL, compuserve, and prodigy were typical.
you would run a terminal program back in the day, and you would enter a comm
that would tell your modem what number to dial and what parameters to type. since this was back when phone calls to certain distances for free. from palo
alto you could to like mountain view to redwood city all the time for free, other times it depended on the hour. anyhow, these things are irrelevant mostly probably these days.tty
i remember when i first saw a web browser in maybe 1992 i thought it was pre
silly the concept of linking documents. the idea of putting images in there was beyond the bandwith of any mortal at that time. 14.4KbPs was awesome. while some BBS's had GUI's, usually they required a special client.he
when i was a kid i spent a lot of time on one bbs that had 8 lines and ran t
major bbs software by worldcomm i believe. good times. i was a cosysop of that board, so i got free time, but the idea was you'd pay for access as well.
might seem absurd now, but if you had to pay another phone bill for each simultaneous user of your website for instance, you'd get the idea.|ng
but bbs's can be much more. i just started up a board recently and it's doi
all sorts of things that weren't remotely possible back then. maybe it's abit
nostalgia, but i also think you can make some really cool functional things with it if you're creative.
Re: ThanksI
By: Vistascan to Nightfox on Sun Mar 16 2014 02:36 am
Thanks. I'll check out the links you gave. I think, from the impression
te"get, that the BBS and the internet in general back then was a more "eli
oneplace, mostly for the people now called "geeks". Using the net was more difficult and only a certain type of people, usually introverts got on. Also, I feel like it was a more understanding community and there were less hostile people around. Is this accurate, or am I off base?
well, you had to sit down and front of a computer and experience a BBS. no
was on cell phones texting people. but there were definitely some cliques and hierarchies around the bbs's. rumors definitely spread about some people.
things were said. people were crank called.ap.
but at the same time you could put something like your address on a piece of shareware, your home address, and not stress about it. back then, you would have to invest in at least one map to find someone, and know how to read a m
since everyone dialed in locally for the most part, we'd get together at the pizza place every month, what was called a user meet, but everyone called affectionately the 'loser meet'. everyone kind of has an idea of who everyone
is before seeing them. you didn't really have much digital photography then,
just scanners, which were expensive throughout the 80's, or at least to my pre-teen mind they were. but you'd have quite a few outcasts. but we kindof
developed a network of friends that was cool because we met people at other schools that we wouldn't have come across. anyhow, that was one of the great
things about bbs's, imho, was the forced locality, and something that seems hard to recreate in today's world unless the satellites fall from the sky and
we have to use our landlines again.
Re: Thanksced
By: LaRRy LaGoMoRpH to Vistascan on Sun Mar 16 2014 02:29 am
anyhow, that was one of the great things about bbs's, imho, was the for
slocality, and something that seems hard to recreate in today's world unless the satellites fall from the sky and we have to use our landline
DCagain.
That was a big reason I wanted to stress the fact that I was in Washington,
in my board's name. I wanted someone to see it on a list and say "Oh cool, that
board is in DC..." I was just explainign this very concept to be BF who never
called boards - his only point of reference is web-based forums, etc... I thinkI referent to is as 'expected locality' hehe.
-nolageek
Re: Re: Tell me about BBSat
By: Gryphon to LaRRy LaGoMoRpH on Sun Mar 16 2014 04:52 pm
I also lived in the bay area (I'm assuming the S.F. Bay area?) about th
ouand also frequented a few MajorBBS boards in that area. What one are y
notreferring to. I would have to say tho, that the ones I frequented did
S Ireally cater to underage callers. It was called Inferno.
I remember the Inferno, run by Awesomebill if I recall. It was the first BB
called IIRC and Awesomebill became my first enemy by banning me from his board.
I don't know how long I lasted on the inferno, maybe a few weeks. Inferno had
like 16 lines if I recall. I've got a user on my bbs that used to be on the inferno big time, i think his name on there was budman.d
i eventually found Infodude, which had a modest 4 lines at the time, and directed people there, and i was the macintosh cosysop so i got free time an
power. eventually we got to 8 lines. infodude was run by the manager of the
computer attic super store on el camino, which imho, was the coolest computer
store in the area (in redwood city, i think it's now a ferrari dealership or something by where mel's bowl used to be). anyhow, when you dropped by the computer store, you could also chat with the sysop and get treated pretty well
for a punk ass kid messing with expensive computers after you rode up on your
bike. good times. eventually infodude had to end, it was too expensive to have 8 phone lines and get kids to scrape their money together to pay, especially once they turn 16 and wind up with vehicles.de
however, there still was kewl bbs in san carlos i might call, i'd say infodu
users and kewl users had some similarities. inferno came first, then infodude,
then kewl if i recall. I think kewl bbs was up until last year even (hopefully
she went down gracefully). but i'd call kewl when infodude's lines got busy,
although i was pretty good at making redial scripts to try to get in when the
busy signal went away.
it's funny now that we can take all these users at the same time without the constraint of phone lines, how hard it is to get above a minor threshold of simultaneous users at any given time on any given bbs. one day though...
I agree! It is so hard to recreate that sense of community on the Internet. BBSes were a great way to make locality. I would like to see that happen again, somehow.
Which BBS was that in the Bay Area that ran Major BBS that you co-sysoped. Was it California Online? Tele-Arena and the chat link was so fun there. Knight
For me it was a magical time in my life. Because it opened up the doors
my little neighborhood, into neighboring cities and eventually BBSes al
the United States. Once the Internet came around, getting realtime acc people all over the world was next. But BBSes offered a lively local co
of people that were often likeminded.
I'm not sure I did such a good job giving you the feeling of the experi Perhaps I will write more about it later.
There were also a lot of "underground" BBSes... places for people in var subcultures who wanted to connect. Some of these dealt in pirated softwa some in pornography, and others were more into strange topics and geeker really allowed people to push the boundaries of Freedom of Speech. And i does to this day.
Re: Thanksld
By: Knight to LaRRy LaGoMoRpH on Sun Apr 13 2014 00:26:01
I agree! It is so hard to recreate that sense of community on the Internet. BBSes were a great way to make locality. I would like to see that happen again, somehow.
I've given thought to possible adding a home phone line for my BBS so that people with dialup modems can call in.. But then, I'm not sure if there wou
be enough dialup users to justify the cost of the phone line. However, it might be interesting if adding phone lines could bring back some sense of locality due to local phone calls being free vs. long distance calls costing money.
Nightfox
Re: Tell me about BBSed.
By: Knight to LaRRy LaGoMoRpH on Sun Apr 13 2014 12:24 am
Which BBS was that in the Bay Area that ran Major BBS that you co-sysop
.Was it California Online? Tele-Arena and the chat link was so fun there
Knight
hehe, it was Infodude, you was there!
I've given thought to possible adding a home phone line for my BBS so that people with dialup modems can call in.. But then, I'm not sure if there wou be enough dialup users to justify the cost of the phone line. However, it might be interesting if adding phone lines could bring back some sense of locality due to local phone calls being free vs. long distance calls costing------------------------------------------
For me it was a magical time in my life. Because it opened up the doors beyond mylittle neighborhood, into neighboring cities and eventuallyO.k. Time for honesty... For myself, I really didn't get along with the kids in my school, nor did I have any desire to. Most where dope heads, and had serious behavior problems. I really didn't spend much time outside,
BBSes all over the United States. Once the Internet came around, getting realtime access to people all over the world was next. But BBSes offered
a lively local community of people that were often likeminded.
So I added a ringmate number to my home phone for my BBS. The USR
Courier is set to detect that and answers when that pattern rings. I don't actually use my home phone for anything, simply have it as part of my internet/tv/phone package from Verizon. So it works out well.
That being said... I get about 4 - 10 calls on the dialin each week. Usually the same few handful of users that most of the time use a VoIP phone jack service to make the long distance call at VoIP rates. What's spiffy is most of the calls come in around 22k - 26kbps which I didn't think was really possible over VoIP.
Thanks for the warm welcome, everybody. I definitely plan to stick around.
So I have looked up certain sites describing what BBS is and they weren't very clear, though they were very nostalgic. They mentioned that there were shareware, articles etc. shared on the BBS which they said was like an actual bulletin board, only digital.
But this kind of left the whole issue vague, so I was hoping you guys could tell me what BBS is from a more personal point of view.
Thanks.
The sysops (people who run the bbs) were likely to thank you personally for
frequenting their bbs and people respected each other a tad more on the message
boards since we appreciated having someone to talk to online. Keep in mind that
the year was around 1994, which is not the "golden age" of the bbs. It was starting to wane around the time I got into it. Because of that and the fact I loved it so much it was a poignant thing, discovering and using a bbs.
I got online around '92 or '93 and BBSes were secondary for me. My primary connection was to the Prodigy service. I worked a second shift job at the time, so many nights I didn't get online until 1 or 2 AM. The Prodigy service would shutdown nightly between 3 and 4 AM. After I got disconencted from Prodigy is when I would dial-up to local BBSes.
Also remember when Win 95 came out it was bundled with the Microsoft Network. If memory serves they had a one month free trial. I do remember
not liking it.
Anyways, when Prodigy started creating web sites for all their content is when I left that service for AOL. A lot of people were leaving Prodigy at that time anyway and their message boards and chat rooms turned into ghost towns.
I couldn't even tell you the BBSes I dialed in to 20 years ago. I doubt any of them are still around.
Re: Re: Tell me about BBS
By: Greywolf to Vistascan on Tue Jul 15 2014 04:18 am
BBSes are a niche hobby among most of us now. I run mine on an old desktop sitting on my desk. And that's how most of our systems are. And while it
And while it
may not have pictures and fancy graphic web-pages (like my generation does, being 16) we still have fun. So with that, I'd like to welcome you to
The BBS that can be explained is not the true BBS. You must experience it to understand it. Nah, I'm just being pretentious and paraphrasing the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu.
For some reason the editor isn't quoted text in replies, so "no" I did
not have a question about BBS.
Whenever I use this particular BBS it never quotes messages I reply to. Don't know what the dealio is.
Whatever Capitol Shrill BBS uses - says "SlyEdit v1.39"
You can quote messages in SlyEdit by pressing Ctrl-Q, or by typing /q on a line by itself and pressing enter.
or by typing /q on a
line by itself and pressing enter.
Thanks for the nice letter Raven, I`d love to have a chat sometime, it would
be
fun!
Regards,
Nick
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Re: Re: Jason Scott
By: Gryphon to Wolfy on Sun Jan 27 2013 07:29:00
On 01-27-13, Wolfy said the following...
Perhaps it is time that those of us who don't have dialup nodes on ou BBS's start thinking about dusting off the modems we have stored in t attic :)
Don't forget about having to have muliple phone lines installed. I have phone lines. All my phones are mobile phones.
There are a lot of things that we have now that we didn't have back then, such as wifi. We also have packet radio.
One of my current projects is setting up a completely wireless network for m neighnourhood which is completely seperate from the internet. In the future, it would be nice to have a network that is completely free from government meddling and scrutiny. My little experiment is set to work but in the not to distant future, I want to expand its scope somewhat.
Sysop: | MCMLXXIX |
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Location: | Prospect, CT |
Users: | 325 |
Nodes: | 10 (0 / 10) |
Uptime: | 147:37:11 |
Calls: | 507 |
Calls today: | 1 |
Messages: | 219696 |