• Hello

    From Mordor@VERT to Poindexter Fortran on Saturday, February 01, 2014 16:27:55
    Re: Hello
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Mordor on Wed Jan 29 2014 10:18 am

    Sometimes I wonder why I even have this BBS... I don't advertise, it is not even on FidoNet... But, I get a kick out of playing around with old memories I suppose :)


    WE LOVE YOU.

    I love me too.. Well, someone has to :)

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  • From Mordor@VERT to Access Denied on Saturday, February 01, 2014 16:28:31
    Re: Hello
    By: Access Denied to Mordor on Wed Jan 29 2014 12:26 pm

    Sometimes I wonder why I even have this BBS... I don't advertise, it
    is not even on FidoNet... But, I get a kick out of playing around with old memories I suppose :)

    As long as you're happy with that, that's all that matters. Right? :)

    Regards,
    Nick

    And I is one happy chappy too.

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  • From Mordor@VERT to Bbikebbs on Saturday, February 01, 2014 16:30:28
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Bbikebbs to Mordor on Wed Jan 29 2014 11:52 am

    How about being able to converse with others thousands of miles away? How about
    it just makes you happy? Or the satisfaction of doing something no one else know has done. What else, anyone?

    Well, that is true. I am the only computer person in my family and none of my friends ever setup a BBS, they would say "WHY?" LOL.

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  • From Mordor@VERT to Charon on Saturday, February 01, 2014 16:32:59
    Re: Hello
    By: Charon to Mordor on Wed Jan 29 2014 12:40 pm

    You have your BBS, just like many others, including myself have our BBS'es, and that is because you enjoy a little "blast from the past". The BBS world will always be around, I belive, and will take on many forms, with different bbs software, hosts, etc. The history will continue and as long as users, young or old, continue to change, the bbs community will be around for a lon time.
    They have been around even with the Internet, so yep, I say they will be around for a long time too. Which to me, is a very good thing :)


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  • From Mordor@VERT to Nightfox on Saturday, February 01, 2014 16:33:37
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Charon on Wed Jan 29 2014 06:54 pm

    I agree. There are a plenty of things that are more important and more productive to do than that. Life can be a lot happier (for both parties involved) if people refrain from wasting time in such a manner.

    Nightfox

    NO! Nobody would do that would they????

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  • From Mordor@VERT to KF5QEO on Saturday, February 01, 2014 16:36:58
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: KF5QEO to Bbikebbs on Wed Jan 29 2014 10:07 pm

    But since you need ideas....

    1. He's too lazy to turn on the TV, so every once in a while, he logs into h
    BBS and checks the debate section to see the CNN news.

    Nope.

    2. He's super lonely, looking for attention, hoping that there's a 1 in
    92 trillion to 1 odds of finding a woman that's into calling BBS's still
    and singel, and looking for a date, that doesn't care what part of the
    world he's in?

    DEFINATELY not.

    3. His computer is so out-dated that his only hope of playing games is
    to play the door games.

    My BBS is on an XPMode Virtual machine ONLY because Synchronet requires the 8bit PKZIP/PKUNZIP and I have a 64bit OS that cannot run it.

    4. He wants to bash that guy who cut him off on the interstate and caused hi
    to crash into a ditch, but doesn't want the guy to turn him into shredded
    dog food, so he chooses to vent on the BBS instead, where he knows it's
    much safer, because if he vented on facebook his pastor might see it and
    get offended that he doesn't like his driving style. ;-)

    Hahahaha.. Close..

    Jeff in Australia

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mordor on Saturday, February 01, 2014 09:57:12
    Re: Hello
    By: Mordor to Nightfox on Sat Feb 01 2014 16:33:37

    I agree. There are a plenty of things that are more important and
    more productive to do than that. Life can be a lot happier (for both
    parties involved) if people refrain from wasting time in such a
    manner.

    NO! Nobody would do that would they????

    Nah, I guess not. Let's go ahead and let Dove-Net become another Fight-O-Net. ;)

    Nightfox

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  • From Access Denied@VERT/PHARCYDE to Mordor on Saturday, February 01, 2014 10:06:48
    Hello Mordor,

    On 01 Feb 14 16:36, Mordor wrote to KF5QEO:

    My BBS is on an XPMode Virtual machine ONLY because Synchronet
    requires the 8bit PKZIP/PKUNZIP and I have a 64bit OS that cannot run
    it.

    If you switched your archivers to Infozip or 7zip you wouldn't have to go that route. Synchronet doesn't really *require* anything when it comes to archivers. You just have to use archivers that are supported in your operating system.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Mordor on Sunday, February 02, 2014 07:43:58
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Mordor to KF5QEO on Sat Feb 01 2014 04:36 pm

    My BBS is on an XPMode Virtual machine ONLY because Synchronet requires the 8bit PKZIP/PKUNZIP and I have a 64bit OS that cannot run it.

    Yeah, just swap out pkzip for 7-zip, they even have a 64-bit build. Here's some examples of compression lines I use in scfg...

    É[þ][?]ÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ»
    º Compressable File Types º ÌÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͹
    º ³zip 7z a -mx9 -tzip -y -w%g %f %s º
    º ³gz 7z a -mx9 -tgzip -y -w%g %f %s º
    º ³xz 7z a -mx9 -txz -y -w%g %f %s º
    º ³7z 7z a -mx9 -t7z -y -w%g %f %s º
    º ³bz 7z a -mx9 -tbzip2 -y -w%g %f %s º
    º ³tar 7z a -ttar -y -w%g %f %s º
    º ³wim 7z a -twim -y -w%g %f %s º

    and 7z can also decompress the following....

    É[þ][?]ÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ»
    º Extractable File Types º ÌÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͹
    º ³zip 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³Z?? 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³7z 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³gz 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³bz2 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³tar 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³wim 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³rar 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³arj 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³lzh 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³lha 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³iso 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³dmg 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³xar 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³hfs 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³vhd 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º
    º ³exe 7z x -y -w%g -o%s %f º

    The Z?? is so sbbs will recognize fidonet compressed nodelists like: nodelist.z25

    PKZIP is also 16bit, and I believe there is a 32-bit version, but it uses DPMI, so your system still thinks it's a 16-bit app.


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  • From KF5QEO@VERT/MAINLINE to Access Denied on Sunday, February 02, 2014 17:49:37
    Re: Hello
    By: Access Denied to Mordor on Sat Feb 01 2014 10:06:48

    If you switched your archivers to Infozip or 7zip you wouldn't have to go that route. Synchronet doesn't really *require* anything when it comes to archivers. You just have to use archivers that are supported in your operating system.
    I need to setup tar as an archiver on my system, and maybe xyzip or whatever its called.... Would be interesting to see someone using tar for a QWK packet!

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  • From KF5QEO@VERT/MAINLINE to Android8675 on Sunday, February 02, 2014 17:59:54
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Android8675 to Mordor on Sun Feb 02 2014 07:43:58

    Yeah, just swap out pkzip for 7-zip, they even have a 64-bit build. Here's some examples of compression lines I use in scfg...
    I didn't see Zoo and Microsoft CAB formats in there. I could swear they have
    zoo for linux. There was another format that they used to use for CP/M.
    I believe I had that for linux as well... I gotta see about making a
    list of all the compression programs for linux.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Mordor on Monday, February 03, 2014 00:17:49
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Mordor to KF5QEO on Sat Feb 01 2014 04:36 pm

    My BBS is on an XPMode Virtual machine ONLY because Synchronet requires
    the 8bit PKZIP/PKUNZIP and I have a 64bit OS that cannot run it.

    You mean 16-bit PKZIP/PKUNZIP, and that's not true. The 32-bit ZIP programs work just great with Synchronet (e.g. Info-ZIP).

    digital man

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  • From Access Denied@VERT/PHARCYDE to KF5QEO on Monday, February 03, 2014 08:09:20
    Hello KF5QEO,

    On 02 Feb 14 17:49, KF5QEO wrote to Access Denied:

    I need to setup tar as an archiver on my system, and maybe xyzip or whatever its called.... Would be interesting to see someone using tar
    for a QWK packet!

    I believe 7zip handles most, if not all of the popular archivers today, and with the settings Android34098123490823 just supplied you with, you should be good to go!

    While using tar is very doable, I'm not sure it really matters much since zip can take care of it just fine. That and if the setting isn't user specific, how will the user know how to unarchive it unless they changed that option themselves? :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to KF5QEO on Monday, February 03, 2014 12:02:39
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: KF5QEO to Android8675 on Sun Feb 02 2014 05:59 pm

    I didn't see Zoo and Microsoft CAB formats in there. I could swear they
    have zoo for linux. There was another format that they used to use for
    CP/M. I believe I had that for linux as well... I gotta see about making
    a list of all the compression programs for linux.

    I have zoo, arc, pkpak setup using their standalone compress/decompression programs, unfortunatly I have been unable to find 32-bit versions of these apps so not much reason to run them on a Windows x64 system. I did find lha32 (LHArc) that works nicely, also 7z decompresses more formats than it compresses because some compressions are free to decompress, but you have to buy a license to compress, so they were excluded. (I believe)

    MS CAB format is proprietary, not much reason to decompress that format in SBBS.

    I'm sure you could find a .zoo compressor for Linux with a little poking around, again, seldomly used compression program these days. Probably more likely to find it if you deal with a lot of older programs.


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  • From Access Denied@VERT/PHARCYDE to Android8675 on Monday, February 03, 2014 22:45:58
    Hello Android8675,

    On 03 Feb 14 12:02, Android8675 wrote to KF5QEO:

    I'm sure you could find a .zoo compressor for Linux with a little
    poking around, again, seldomly used compression program these days. Probably more likely to find it if you deal with a lot of older
    programs.

    Yep. For the record, zoo, lha, arc, 7z, zip, unzip, rar, as well as some others that are hardly ever used seem to be available in most distros' package managers. I know for sure Gentoo and Archlinux supply all the ones I can think of that *might* be needed with a BBS, but just really don't see a need for anything other than zip/unzip, rar, and arj these days unless you're getting into old Commodore stuff and whatnot.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Access Denied on Tuesday, February 04, 2014 06:34:00
    Re: Hello
    By: Access Denied to Android8675 on Mon Feb 03 2014 22:45:58

    package managers. I know for sure Gentoo and Archlinux supply all the
    ones I can think of that *might* be needed with a BBS, but just really don't see a need for anything other than zip/unzip, rar, and arj these days unless you're getting into old Commodore stuff and whatnot.

    The .7z format seems to provide better compression than zip in many cases. But it just happens that zip has become the de-facto standard compression format for Windows systems and many others. However in Linux, I believe gzip and tar-gzip (.tar.gz or .tgz) used to be the most common archive formats. I still see a lot of source code distributed for Linux in .tar.gz archives, but zip seems to be fairly common in Linux as well.

    Nightfox

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Access Denied on Tuesday, February 04, 2014 06:34:37
    Re: Hello
    By: Access Denied to Android8675 on Mon Feb 03 2014 10:45 pm

    I can think of that *might* be needed with a BBS, but just really don't see a need for anything other than zip/unzip, rar, and arj these days unless you're getting into old Commodore stuff and whatnot.

    No one in Fidonet region 10 is using anything except for transfers except.ZIP, the nodediffs come in ARC format, and I have a handful of text files from the 80s in LHA format. I converted them all over on my old BBS incarnation when I realized I could reclaim 30 megs or something like that by converting from ARC to LHA. :)

    The nodelist is available un-diffed in ZIP format, which makes more sense these days, but getting all of the pieces working is half the fun!

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Access Denied on Tuesday, February 04, 2014 10:49:27
    Re: Hello
    By: Access Denied to Android8675 on Mon Feb 03 2014 10:45 pm

    I can think of that *might* be needed with a BBS, but just really don't see a need for anything other than zip/unzip, rar, and arj these days unless you're getting into old Commodore stuff and whatnot.

    Atari ST has a lot of .zoo, .lha archives, gzipped tar seems like a common way to pack up cvs builds (.tgz). I use 7z for keeping backups, seems like a real fast/stable compression, usually gives the best compression ratio as well.


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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Android8675 on Tuesday, February 04, 2014 15:55:49
    Re: Hello
    By: Android8675 to Access Denied on Tue Feb 04 2014 10:49 am

    I use 7z for keeping backups, seems like
    a real fast/stable compression, usually gives the best compression ratio as well.

    I build VMs at my company and need to send multiple-gig archives to a server 40 miles away across a WAN. 7-Zip rocks.

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  • From Access Denied@VERT/PHARCYDE to Android8675 on Tuesday, February 04, 2014 19:05:08
    Hello Android8675,

    On 04 Feb 14 10:49, Android8675 wrote to Access Denied:

    Atari ST has a lot of .zoo, .lha archives, gzipped tar seems like a
    common way to pack up cvs builds (.tgz). I use 7z for keeping backups, seems like a real fast/stable compression, usually gives the best compression ratio as well.

    Agreed. I will definitely use it when I get some time to redo things over here. I have to start with a distro change, though. So I'm kinda putting it off as long as I can at the moment. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Vistascan@VERT/SILICONU to All on Thursday, March 13, 2014 05:54:23
    So I just logged into this BBS and I am too young to have seen the original
    era of BBS (I'm 23) so I'm exploring it now. I'm not a programmer or anything but I always had a fascination for the internet. I hope I'll get to discuss some stuff with the other users here and learn about the BBS era, among other things.


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  • From Hustler@VERT/EWBBS to Vistascan on Thursday, March 13, 2014 15:10:16
    Re: Hello
    By: Vistascan to All on Thu Mar 13 2014 05:54 am

    So I just logged into this BBS and I am too young to have seen the original era of BBS (I'm 23) so I'm exploring it now. I'm not a programmer or anything but I always had a fascination for the internet. I hope I'll get to discuss some stuff with the other users here and learn about the

    Welcome and keep coming back. Don't let these ol farts bug ya neither. BBS'ing can be a lot of fun. Better than anything you'll find on the web anyways. L8ta

    HusTler
    Regards

    HusTler

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  • From Harvey Simpson@VERT/GAMES to Vistascan on Thursday, March 13, 2014 16:38:04
    Re: Hello
    By: Vistascan to All on Thu Mar 13 2014 05:54 am

    So I just logged into this BBS and I am too young to have seen the original era of BBS (I'm 23) so I'm exploring it now. I'm not a programmer or anythin but I always had a fascination for the internet. I hope I'll get to discuss some stuff with the other users here and learn about the BBS era, among othe things.


    Welcome glad for you to be here.





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  • From Mordor@VERT to Vistascan on Friday, March 14, 2014 20:24:16
    Re: Hello
    By: Vistascan to All on Thu Mar 13 2014 05:54 am

    So I just logged into this BBS and I am too young to have seen the original era of BBS (I'm 23) so I'm exploring it now. I'm not a programmer or anythin but I always had a fascination for the internet. I hope I'll get to discuss some stuff with the other users here and learn about the BBS era, among othe things.

    Welcome to Fido Net :)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mordor on Friday, March 14, 2014 07:30:15
    Re: Hello
    By: Mordor to Vistascan on Fri Mar 14 2014 20:24:16

    So I just logged into this BBS and I am too young to have seen the
    original era of BBS (I'm 23) so I'm exploring it now. I'm not a
    programmer or anythin but I always had a fascination for the internet.
    I hope I'll get to discuss some stuff with the other users here and
    learn about the BBS era, among othe things.

    Welcome to Fido Net :)

    FidoNet? Don't confuse him, now.. ;)

    Welcome, Vistascan! I hope you enjoy it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Kirkman@VERT/GUARDIAN to Vistascan on Friday, March 14, 2014 12:30:20
    Re: Hello
    By: Vistascan to All on Thu Mar 13 2014 05:54 am

    So I just logged into this BBS and I am too young to have seen the original era of BBS (I'm 23) so I'm exploring it now. I'm not a programmer or anything but I always had a fascination for the internet. I hope I'll get
    to discuss some stuff with the other users here and learn about the BBS
    era, among other things.

    Welcome! I was a teen during the peak of BBSing, so I think it's awesome there are still sysops and users keeping things going.

    --Josh



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Kirkman on Friday, March 14, 2014 12:49:31
    I was a teen during the peak of BBSing, so I think it's awesome
    there are still sysops and users keeping things going.

    I was as well. Those were fun times.. Plenty of time to spend BBSing and running my own too. I met a few cool people at the time, and when I was 15, there were many nights during the summer when I'd stay up until around 4:00- 5:00AM playing Doom and Doom 2 over the modem with a user who used to call my BBS.

    Nightfox

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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Nightfox on Sunday, March 16, 2014 16:24:00
    On 03-14-14, Nightfox said the following...

    I was a teen during the peak of BBSing, so I think it's awesome
    there are still sysops and users keeping things going.

    Iwas as well. Those were fun times.. Plenty of time to spend BBSing and running my own too. I met a few cool people at the time, and when I was 15, there were many nights during the summer when I'd stay up until
    around 4:00- 5:00AM playing Doom and Doom2 over the modem with a user
    who used to call my BBS.

    By the time I found BBSes, I was already 28.

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  • From Bastetx@VERT/PTAHRED to Mordor on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 21:48:11
    Sometimes I wonder why I even have this BBS... I don't advertise, it is not >even on FidoNet... But, I get a kick out of playing around with old memories >I suppose :)

    Jeff in Brisbane, Australia.

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    Its the playing around part like you say

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  • From Mr. Cool@VERT/QBBS to VISTASCAN on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 21:42:00
    --- VISTASCAN wrote --
    So I just logged into this BBS and I am too young to have seen the origina era of BBS (I'm 23) so I'm exploring it now. I'm not a programmer or anyth but I always had a fascination for the internet. I hope I'll get to discus some stuff with the other users here and learn about the BBS era, among ot things

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  • From Mr. Cool@VERT/QBBS to VISTASCAN on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 21:23:00
    --- VISTASCAN wrote --
    So I just logged into this BBS and I am too young to have seen the origina era of BBS (I'm 23) so I'm exploring it now. I'm not a programmer or anyth but I always had a fascination for the internet. I hope I'll get to discus some stuff with the other users here and learn about the BBS era, among ot things



    0
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    32mSynchronet SiliconUnderground - siliconu.synchro.net -
    Syrac
    Welcome! I'm actually in the same boat as you. I only started using BBSs a Welcome! I am in the same boat, as I have only started using BBSs a

    couple of months ago. Since then I have been frequenting TARDIS BBS and a

    couple of others. Anyway hopefully this post isn't too screwed up. I'm

    sending it from my phone.



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    * TARDIS BBS - Home of QUARKware * telnet bbs.cortex-media.info
  • From Knight@VERT/PHUNC to Vistascan on Sunday, April 13, 2014 00:03:29
    Re: Hello
    By: Vistascan to All on Thu Mar 13 2014 05:54 am

    So I just logged into this BBS and I am too young to have seen the original era of BBS (I'm 23) so I'm exploring it now. I'm not a programmer or anythin
    g
    but I always had a fascination for the internet. I hope I'll get to discuss some stuff with the other users here and learn about the BBS era, among othe
    r
    things.

    Hey Vistascan! Welcome to the world of BBSes. Many of us grew up in the BBS world, and many of us even ran a BBS for many years. The Internet was wild and fascinating, which drew most of us away from the BBS scene, which eventually imploded. Thanks to people like Digital Man (author of Synchronet), we can keep the spirit of BBSes alive.

    The one thing that BBSes seem to do well is form a sense of community. This is something the Internet has stolen in the name of expanding access to the world. Funny trade off, don't you think?

    Hope to see you stick around. I'm relatively new in this scene as I'm just getting back into things, after a 15 year hiatus. I ran the Dark Knight BBS in California back in the late 80s, early 90s. Later I ran The Phunc BBS in the mid to late 90s in California and Minnesota.

    Chat soon,
    Knight

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Phunc BBS -- Back from the dead!
  • From Poodle448@VERT/CFAIRIES to All on Sunday, April 13, 2014 22:32:12
    Hello everybody, I am new on BBS. This is my first ever post on a BBS. I'm not going to lie, it's pretty confusing.


    ---
    þ Synchronet þ -= Computer Fairies BBS =-= akira.mynameiser.in =- <3
  • From Knight@VERT/PHUNC to Poodle448 on Monday, April 14, 2014 03:28:19
    Re: Hello
    By: Poodle448 to All on Sun Apr 13 2014 10:32 pm

    Hello everybody, I am new on BBS. This is my first ever post on a BBS. I'm n going to lie, it's pretty confusing.

    Welcome Poddle448! It's always exciting for us to see people new to BBSes.

    What are your first impressions? What is it you think you've stumbled into?

    Feel free to ask questions. Most of us like to help, because we want to see BBSes stay around for a while.

    Knight

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Phunc BBS -- Back from the dead!
  • From Belzo@VERT to Poodle448 on Monday, April 14, 2014 10:15:48
    Hello everybody, I am new on BBS. This is my first ever post on a BBS. I'm not going to lie, it's pretty confusing.

    Hello! Would you like to share what has drawn you to BBS?

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From The Student@VERT/QBBS to POODLE448 on Monday, April 14, 2014 19:28:00
    --- POODLE448 wrote --
    Hello everybody, I am new on BBS. This is my first ever post on a BBS. I'm going to lie, it's pretty confusing

    0
    --
    Synchronet -= Computer Fairies BBS =-= akira.mynameiser.in =

    Welcome. :-)
    I'm fairly new to this myself. I'm only 21 but I did have some BBS experiences through my parents and older brother in the late 90's/early 00's. Confusing at first, yes...but very fun and rewarding.



    ---
    How I long for the Isles of Information.


    ---
    * TARDIS BBS - Home of QUARKware * telnet bbs.cortex-media.info
  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Poodle448 on Monday, April 14, 2014 08:53:02
    Re: Hello
    By: Poodle448 to All on Sun Apr 13 2014 22:32:12

    Hello everybody, I am new on BBS. This is my first ever post on a BBS. I'm n going to lie, it's pretty confusing.

    Hello & good to meet ya. It can be a bit confusing for anyone,
    the first time, but when you get down to it it's really pretty much the
    same as using any point & click system. If you're in any standard sort
    of command shell, you can always hit '?' or 'h' to get help on what
    commands you have at the particular menu/prompt. The highlighted keys
    in the short descriptions will be the ones that you'll be pressing, just
    think of them as your buttons to click on the web page.
    The areas and sections of the BBS can be a little bit confusing
    because of the way that they're named and set up to somebody not used to
    that kind of system. It's a lot like your primary menu system in a DVD settings or cable television settings menu. Hit one subsection, see
    what it deals with and the options that it has available. There will
    usually be an option like 'X' or 'Q' to get out of the menu and return
    to the former one that you were at, in case you get lost or there is
    nothing interesting for you where you are. You'll find areas dealing
    with different message topics and conversations, games, sources of
    information, and later on where to download files and programs to your
    own computer.
    Anybody here is usually pretty happy to help you deal with
    questions, as long as you're interested in what you're getting into.
    Well, except for Mro. Mro is a dick.


    -- guh up the effbomb down wif yr bad self


    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Tinfoil Tetrahedron BBS telnet://bismaninfo.hopto.org:8023/ 1:282/1057
  • From nolageek@VERT/CAPSHRIL to Poodle448 on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 18:25:04
    Re: Hello
    By: Poodle448 to All on Sun Apr 13 2014 10:32 pm

    Hey there Poodle, welcome to the boards! :) Where are you from? Washington DC here.


    -nolageek

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Capitol Shrill BBS - Washington, DC - capitolshrill.com
  • From Mr. Cool@VERT/RDBBS to Poodle448 on Thursday, April 17, 2014 05:07:09
    Re: Hello
    By: Poodle448 to All on Sun Apr 13 2014 10:32 pm

    Hello everybody, I am new on BBS. This is my first ever post on a BBS. I'm n going to lie, it's pretty confusing.



    Welcome!
    Always good to see new people come in. I've only been doing this for about four months myself, but I enjoy being on here way more then facebook. Of course for a long time, I've been more of a forum guy, which would explain it's appeal.


    ---
    þ Synchronet þ RetroDigital.net BBS
  • From Gate Keeper@VERT/THEGATEB to All on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 18:42:00
    Hello everyone. Just wanted to post something and introduce myself.


    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Gate BBS - Cherryville, NC USA
  • From ROBERT WOLFE@VERT/OTHETA to GATE KEEPER on Thursday, July 31, 2014 06:36:00
    Hello everyone. Just wanted to post something and introduce myself.

    Welcome aboard!!!

    ... Beware Romulans baring GIFs.
    --- Wildcat! v6.4.454.2 (Nov 17 2011) with 367 taglines!
    þ Omicron Theta BBS * Memphis, TN * winserver.us
  • From Gate Keeper@VERT/THEGATEB to ROBERT WOLFE on Thursday, July 31, 2014 16:54:00
    Re: Hello
    By: ROBERT WOLFE to GATE KEEPER on Thu Jul 31 2014 07:36 am

    Hello everyone. Just wanted to post something and introduce myself.

    Welcome aboard!!!

    ... Beware Romulans baring GIFs.

    Thanks. Takes some getting used to since i've been running WWIV since 1980.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Gate BBS - Cherryville, NC USA - gate.wwivbbs.com
  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Gate Keeper on Thursday, July 31, 2014 03:30:34
    Re: Hello
    By: Gate Keeper to All on Wed Jul 30 2014 18:42:00

    Hello everyone. Just wanted to post something and introduce myself.

    How's it going, Gate Keeper? I am the keymaster.
    -=-

    "It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -- Jiddu Krishnamurti

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Tinfoil Tetrahedron BBS telnet or ssh -p 2222 to tinfoil.synchro.net
  • From Nitestryker@VERT/GRUDGEDU to Gate Keeper on Thursday, July 31, 2014 18:39:30
    Re: Hello
    By: Gate Keeper to All on Wed Jul 30 2014 06:42 pm

    Hello everyone. Just wanted to post something and introduce myself.


    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Gate BBS - Cherryville, NC USA
    Hello Gate-Keeper I am nitestryker Nice to meet you !!!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ telnet to utureland.grudgemirror.com and check out our website for a sneak pre
  • From ROBERT WOLFE@VERT/OTHETA to GATE KEEPER on Thursday, July 31, 2014 05:59:00
    Thanks. Takes some getting used to since i've been running WWIV since
    1980.

    I think I can totally understand that :)

    ... This message written with recycled electrons.
    --- Wildcat! v6.4.454.2 (Nov 17 2011) with 367 taglines!
    þ Omicron Theta BBS * Memphis, TN * winserver.us
  • From Classcoder@VERT/THEBBSTX to Kirkman on Friday, August 29, 2014 17:49:00
    Re: Hello
    By: Kirkman to Vistascan on Fri Mar 14 2014 01:30 pm

    Welcome! I was a teen during the peak of BBSing, so I think it's awesome the are still sysops and users keeping things going.
    I'm a teen during the peak of social media, yet I'm a sysop :P (Just started my BBS two days ago, reading through DOVE-Net)

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Brenham Bulletin Service (THEBBS) - thebbs.classcoder.com
  • From Kirkman@VERT/GUARDIAN to Classcoder on Saturday, August 30, 2014 15:35:08
    Re: Hello
    By: Kirkman to Vistascan on Fri Mar 14 2014 01:30 pm

    Welcome! I was a teen during the peak of BBSing, so I think it's
    awesome
    the are still sysops and users keeping things going.
    I'm a teen during the peak of social media, yet I'm a sysop :P (Just
    started my BBS two days ago, reading through DOVE-Net)


    Congrats on launching the board and joining the fraternity of sysops!

    I'm curious: do any of your friends know about BBSing? How do you explain
    it to them?

    Even back in the day, I had a hard time getting non-BBSers to understand what it was all about. Nowadays it's somewhat easier (it's like a tiny social network that lives in your computer, but with a text-only
    interface), but people are more likely to respond "Why would you be interested in THAT?"

    --Josh

    ////--------------------------------------------------
    BiC -=- http://breakintochat.com -=- bbs wiki and blog

    ---
    þ Synchronet
  • From Alex Sherman@VERT/THEGATEB to All on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 12:14:51
    Hi. I've recently got into retro-computing and this is my first day using BBS's. I found this BBS on telnetbbsguide.com
    This is my first post :U

    -Elaek

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Gate BBS * thegateb.synchro.net * Cherryville, NC USA
  • From nblade@VERT/RPGCIRC to Alex Sherman on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 01:41:00
    Welcome back to BBSs.

    - Jeff

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Linux/32)
    * Origin: RPG Circus BBS
  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Alex Sherman on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 20:53:04
    On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 12:14:51 -0500, "Alex Sherman"
    <alex.sherman@VERT/THEGATEB> wrote:

    Hi. I've recently got into retro-computing and this is my first day using >BBS's. I found this BBS on telnetbbsguide.com
    This is my first post :U

    Welcome to the world of BBS's. No two boards are the same so be sure
    to look around and everything that's available. You'll soon find some favorites.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nelgin on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 21:41:29
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nelgin to Alex Sherman on Tue Nov 07 2017 08:53 pm

    Welcome to the world of BBS's. No two boards are the same so be sure

    except if they are synchronet bbses!
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Alex Sherman on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 07:58:01
    Re: Hello
    By: Alex Sherman to All on Tue Nov 07 2017 12:14 pm

    Hi. I've recently got into retro-computing and this is my first day using BBS's. I found this BBS on telnetbbsguide.com
    This is my first post :U


    Welcome to the wonderful retro world of BBS'ing this was a first experience of being on line for many of us back in the day.
    Most BBS's back then were a single phone line and local only unless you wanted to rack up long distance charges.
    Today's BBS's have multiple nodes and tons of hard drive space,

    "... Taglines: the toilet-stall walls of BBSdom."

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ the Outwest BBS - outwestbbs.com Telnet - outwestbbs.com:23
  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to MRO on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 10:24:25
    On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 21:41:29 -0600, "MRO" <mro@VERT/BBSESINF> wrote:

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nelgin to Alex Sherman on Tue Nov 07 2017 08:53 pm

    Welcome to the world of BBS's. No two boards are the same so be sure

    except if they are synchronet bbses!

    Ouch!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From Elaek@VERT/CPUGOD to nblade on Thursday, November 09, 2017 10:39:05
    Welcome back? This is my first time actually! I got interested in them after playing through 'Digital' and after watching a couple of youtube videos on
    the tech I decided to check it out myself. So far i've found a couple of
    BBS's that I like. Been exploring for me every day :)

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Computer God!!! - Get Involved - W est Jordan, Ut. telnet://cpugod.synchro.net
  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Elaek on Thursday, November 09, 2017 15:00:08
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Elaek to nblade on Thu Nov 09 2017 10:39:05

    Welcome back? This is my first time actually! I got interested in them after playing through 'Digital' and after watching a couple of youtube videos on the tech I decided to check it out myself. So far i've found a couple of BBS's that I like. Been exploring for me every day :)


    Does that include YouTube videos by LGR, by chance? His vidoes on BBSes brought in a lot of users to Diamond Mine BBS when I was there a few months ago.

    Question is, though: how many stayed or how many played with it for a few days and then quit?

    -jag
    Code it, Script it, Automate it!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com/ -
  • From Elaek@VERT/CPUGOD to Jagossel on Thursday, November 09, 2017 15:20:46
    Does that include Youtube videos by LGR, by chance?

    Yes! It does, that was the last video I watched before I just ended up downloading SyncTerm.

    I think i'll be sticking around for a bit though, this is a lot more
    enjoyable than mindlessly scrolling through reddit.

    I've recently discovered MUD's. Haven't been able to really *understand* how
    to really work it yet, but i'll keep trying until I do ha ha.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Computer God!!! - Get Involved - W est Jordan, Ut. telnet://cpugod.synchro.net
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jagossel on Thursday, November 09, 2017 17:32:32
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Jagossel to Elaek on Thu Nov 09 2017 03:00 pm

    Does that include YouTube videos by LGR, by chance? His vidoes on BBSes brought in a lot of users to Diamond Mine BBS when I was there a few months ago.


    he sounds like he's trying to copy that old youtuber howto guy kipkay
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Elaek on Thursday, November 09, 2017 19:52:30
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Elaek to Jagossel on Thu Nov 09 2017 15:20:46

    Does that include Youtube videos by LGR, by chance?

    Yes! It does, that was the last video I watched before I just ended up downloading SyncTerm.

    SyncTerm is a really good client for different modern platforms (the top 3 maybe?): different connection methods, proper rendering of the font for the CP437 characters, and the ability to download files. The problem is that I'm not on my PC often (busy with work and family) and I'm on my phone more than anything else. So, I just use Limbo, fire up a FreeDOS "VM", and use MTCP's Telnet cliemt. It works, just not able to download files with it.

    I think i'll be sticking around for a bit though, this is a lot more enjoyable than mindlessly scrolling through reddit.

    I'm glad to hear that! DOVE-Net is the more active conferences, and surprisingly, FidoNet is still around and a little active (when I was still on Diamond Mine).

    Well, welcome aboard! I hope you have an enjoyable and pleasent with the BBS you're on.

    -jag
    Code it, Script it, Automate it!


    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com/ -
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jagossel on Thursday, November 09, 2017 21:36:27
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Jagossel to Elaek on Thu Nov 09 2017 07:52 pm

    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Elaek to Jagossel on Thu Nov 09 2017 15:20:46

    Does that include Youtube videos by LGR, by chance?

    Yes! It does, that was the last video I watched before I just ended up downloading SyncTerm.

    SyncTerm is a really good client for different modern platforms (the top 3 maybe?): different connection methods, proper rendering of the font for the CP437 characters, and the ability to download files. The problem is that I'm not on my PC often (busy with work and family) and I'm on my phone more than anything else. So, I just use Limbo, fire up a FreeDOS "VM", and use MTCP's Telnet cliemt. It works, just not able to download files with it.


    did you try my.ftelnet.ca or the ftelnet app on the android store
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to MRO on Friday, November 10, 2017 06:01:45
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Jagossel on Thu Nov 09 2017 21:36:27

    did you try my.ftelnet.ca or the ftelnet app on the android store

    I have, and I wasn't too thrilled about fTelnet. It was too wide and the keyboard fTelnet provided was very awakward to use. The font didn't look quite right to me.

    Using Limbo, FreeDOS, MTCP Telnet, and Hacker's Keyboard is as close to the real thing as I get. It renders the font correctly and it feels more natural. The one major drawback is how slow it can be at times. If I need to get in there real quick, ConnectBot works with the CP437 encoding; however the fonts are way off in ConnectBot.

    -jag
    Code it, Script it, Automate it!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com/ -
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Friday, November 10, 2017 09:07:58
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Jagossel to MRO on Fri Nov 10 2017 06:01 am

    did you try my.ftelnet.ca or the ftelnet app on the android store

    I have, and I wasn't too thrilled about fTelnet. It was too wide and the keyboard fTelnet provided was very awakward to use. The font didn't look quite right to me.

    I rarely use the fTelnet keyboard. Unless you're using it on a mobile device, there's rarely a need to use its keyboard. Otherwise, I think fTelnet works very well. I don't think it's too wide (it's just wide enough to render an 80x25 character console, and it looks good).

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From nblade@VERT/RPGCIRC to Elaek on Friday, November 10, 2017 16:38:00
    Sorry, when I first responded I somehow read into it that you were comming
    back to BBSs. Of course on a second read, I could see that was not the case.

    So, welcome to BBSing. While not quite the same as when I was doing it back by Modem in the early 90s, it is still a unique experience. So I hope you enjoy it.

    One thing for sure if you ever want to setup your own BBS these days that telnetable (or ssh=able) it certainly is easier than it was back in the day. Way more tutorials and information online on how to do it.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Linux/32)
    * Origin: RPG Circus BBS
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to nblade on Friday, November 10, 2017 15:02:02
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: nblade to Elaek on Fri Nov 10 2017 04:38 pm

    One thing for sure if you ever want to setup your own BBS these days that telnetable (or ssh=able) it certainly is easier than it was back in the day. Way more tutorials and information online on how to do it.

    Setting up a mailer with a BBS was a challenge - writing a batch file to call the mailer, and the mailer using DOS errorlevels to run events was tricky. I think I had to run some events manually for months until I got all of the pieces talking to each other.

    Getting the modem, FOSSIL and physical serial port was always fun.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Bigbangnet@VERT/MTLGEEK to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, November 10, 2017 20:02:07
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to nblade on Fri Nov 10 2017 15:02:02

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: nblade to Elaek on Fri Nov 10 2017 04:38 pm

    One thing for sure if you ever want to setup your own BBS these days tha telnetable (or ssh=able) it certainly is easier than it was back in the day. Way more tutorials and information online on how to do it.

    Setting up a mailer with a BBS was a challenge - writing a batch file to cal the mailer, and the mailer using DOS errorlevels to run events was tricky. I think I had to run some events manually for months until I got all of the pieces talking to each other.

    Getting the modem, FOSSIL and physical serial port was always fun.


    Ohh gawd, serial ports. IRQ`s and com ports. Sweet memories. I can`t remember how many times I rebooted my pc to figure out if my modem and my mouse wasn`t conflicting.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com/ -
  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Nightfox on Friday, November 10, 2017 20:42:46
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Fri Nov 10 2017 09:07:58

    I rarely use the fTelnet keyboard. Unless you're using it on a mobile devic there's rarely a need to use its keyboard. Otherwise, I think fTelnet works very well. I don't think it's too wide (it's just wide enough to render an 80x25 character console, and it looks good).

    That's the problem. The desktop versio of fTelnet is fine, it's the mobile version that I didn't care for.

    -jag
    Code it, Script it, Automate it!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com/ -
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Bigbangnet on Saturday, November 11, 2017 09:57:23
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Bigbangnet to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Nov 10 2017 08:02 pm

    Ohh gawd, serial ports. IRQ`s and com ports. Sweet memories. I can`t remember how many times I rebooted my pc to figure out if my modem and my mouse wasn`t conflicting.


    for wingcommander privateer i had to move a jumper on my sound card.
    then move it back when i was done because of other conflicts.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jagossel on Saturday, November 11, 2017 09:58:25
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Fri Nov 10 2017 08:42 pm

    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Fri Nov 10 2017 09:07:58

    I rarely use the fTelnet keyboard. Unless you're using it on a mobile devic there's rarely a need to use its keyboard. Otherwise, I think fTelnet works very well. I don't think it's too wide (it's just wide enough to render an 80x25 character console, and it looks good).

    That's the problem. The desktop versio of fTelnet is fine, it's the mobile version that I didn't care for.



    you mean the web version is fine? that will run on your phone the same.
    i agree it was hard to use the app's keyboard. i was trying to visit a bbs the other day and kept mistyping when trying to type in the system password.

    maybe bbsing isnt meant for phones.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Sunday, November 12, 2017 18:44:25
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Fri Nov 10 2017 08:42 pm

    I rarely use the fTelnet keyboard. Unless you're using it on a mobile
    devic there's rarely a need to use its keyboard. Otherwise, I think
    fTelnet works very well. I don't think it's too wide (it's just wide
    enough to render an 80x25 character console, and it looks good).

    That's the problem. The desktop versio of fTelnet is fine, it's the mobile version that I didn't care for.

    Yeah, I think the mobile keyboard does take up quite a bit of space, but that's probably more an issue of mobile devices rather than the app itself. I had a smart phone with a real keyboard once (the screen slid to the side to reveal the keyboard underneath) - I wish more smartphones had a real keyboard like that so you didn't have to use an on-screen keyboard so much.

    Tablets have a similar issue (though with a bigger screen, an on-screen keyboard doesn't use up as much of the space). You can pair a bluetooth keyboard with a tablet, and even with a smartphone too, but pretty much nobody is going to carry a bluetooth keyboard around with them for their phone..

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sunday, November 12, 2017 18:50:34
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Bigbangnet on Sat Nov 11 2017 09:57 am

    for wingcommander privateer i had to move a jumper on my sound card.
    then move it back when i was done because of other conflicts.

    I used to play that as well. Several years ago, I ran across an open-source re-creation of Wing Commander Privateer, available for Windows, Linux, and OS X:
    http://privateer.sourceforge.net/
    It looks and plays pretty much just like the original.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sunday, November 12, 2017 18:52:14
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Jagossel on Sat Nov 11 2017 09:58 am

    That's the problem. The desktop versio of fTelnet is fine, it's the
    mobile version that I didn't care for.

    you mean the web version is fine? that will run on your phone the same.
    i agree it was hard to use the app's keyboard. i was trying to visit a bbs the other day and kept mistyping when trying to type in the system password.

    The fTelnet Android app is more like a regular telnet app in that it can be configured to connect to any BBS (as opposed to the web version, which is typically set up on a BBS's web site to connect just to that BBS).

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Monday, November 13, 2017 00:43:45
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Sun Nov 12 2017 06:44 pm

    I rarely use the fTelnet keyboard. Unless you're using it on a

    That's the problem. The desktop versio of fTelnet is fine, it's the
    mobile version that I didn't care for.


    I use an android app called Rterm it uses chinese special characters but is still readable on my phone.

    "... What if there were no hypothetical situations?"

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ the Outwest BBS - outwestbbs.com Telnet - outwestbbs.com:23
  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Nightfox on Monday, November 13, 2017 05:55:56
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Sun Nov 12 2017 18:44:25

    Yeah, I think the mobile keyboard does take up quite a bit of space, but tha probably more an issue of mobile devices rather than the app itself. I had smart phone with a real keyboard once (the screen slid to the side to reveal the keyboard underneath) - I wish more smartphones had a real keyboard like that so you didn't have to use an on-screen keyboard so much.

    I really miss having a cell phone with an actual physical keyboard. I had a Kyocera Rise a few years ago that I had Turbo DOSBox and AIDE on it.

    Sadly, I think the latest trend is to not have a physical keyboard and use glass for the screen. I hate glass in general, and phone I have now has two cracks running across the screen; seems to be getting worse.

    -jag
    Code it, Scrip it, Automate it!

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Monday, November 13, 2017 08:47:23
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Sun Nov 12 2017 06:44 pm

    Tablets have a similar issue (though with a bigger screen, an on-screen keyboard doesn't use up as much of the space). You can pair a bluetooth keyboard with a tablet, and even with a smartphone too, but pretty much nobody is going to carry a bluetooth keyboard around with them for their phone..

    I'd like to find a folding bluetooth keyboard with a stand; I've been toying with using my phone as a laptop replacement, input is the only thing holding me back at this point.

    Need to edit a doc? Google Docs works fine.

    Crappy coffee shop wi-fi? 3G works fine in a pinch.

    ---
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Denn on Monday, November 13, 2017 15:05:22
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Denn to Nightfox on Mon Nov 13 2017 12:43 am

    I use an android app called Rterm it uses chinese special characters but is still readable on my phone.

    That reminds me, I've heard BBSes are still relatively popular in China - Probably in part due to China's censorship laws, and perhaps BBSes can fly under the radar there.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, November 13, 2017 18:55:51
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Nov 12 2017 06:50 pm


    for wingcommander privateer i had to move a jumper on my sound card. then move it back when i was done because of other conflicts.

    I used to play that as well. Several years ago, I ran across an open-source re-creation of Wing Commander Privateer, available for Windows, Linux, and OS X:
    http://privateer.sourceforge.net/
    It looks and plays pretty much just like the original.


    it's actually better than the original in a lot of respects.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, November 13, 2017 18:56:39
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Nov 12 2017 06:52 pm

    The fTelnet Android app is more like a regular telnet app in that it can be configured to connect to any BBS (as opposed to the web version, which is typically set up on a BBS's web site to connect just to that BBS).



    you can goto my.ftelnet.ca and punch in any address and use it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jagossel on Monday, November 13, 2017 18:57:41
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Mon Nov 13 2017 05:55 am


    I really miss having a cell phone with an actual physical keyboard. I had a Kyocera Rise a few years ago that I had Turbo DOSBox and AIDE on it.

    Sadly, I think the latest trend is to not have a physical keyboard and use glass for the screen. I hate glass in general, and phone I have now has two cracks running across the screen; seems to be getting worse.


    yes, i too miss the keyboard. i type like shit on glass.
    i was going to get that blackberry with they keyboard but it was overpriced junk.

    get a tempered glass screensaver.
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    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, November 13, 2017 18:58:13
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Mon Nov 13 2017 03:05 pm

    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Denn to Nightfox on Mon Nov 13 2017 12:43 am

    I use an android app called Rterm it uses chinese special characters but is still readable on my phone.

    That reminds me, I've heard BBSes are still relatively popular in China - Probably in part due to China's censorship laws, and perhaps BBSes can fly under the radar there.


    yep, they are. i've been on them. been a year or so, though.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 08:41:23
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Mon Nov 13 2017 03:05 pm

    That reminds me, I've heard BBSes are still relatively popular in China - Probably in part due to China's censorship laws, and perhaps BBSes can fly under the radar there.


    Because of the cyber attacks from China and Russia I block those two contries right at my router.
    BBS'ing is pretty big in Japan and I have logged into some of those BBS's

    "... Remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else."

    ---
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  • From Derision@VERT/AMIGAC to Elaek on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 01:59:50
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Elaek to nblade on Thu Nov 09 2017 10:39:05

    Welcome back? This is my first time actually! I got interested in them after playing through 'Digital' and after watching a couple of youtube videos on the tech I decided to check it out myself. So far i've found a couple of BBS's that I like. Been exploring for me every day :)

    It's an interesting dynamic, calling the boards. I find myself checking Facebook less and less the more time I spend on the boards. It's more, er, I suppose people with the same general outlooks or histories, so it's kind of a much more focused and enaging world than the whole normal social media scene.

    I feel like I just typed a bunch of words that don't actually connect to anything else, but I think the idea got across there.

    ---
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  • From Bigbangnet@VERT/MTLGEEK to Jagossel on Saturday, November 18, 2017 10:04:15
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Mon Nov 13 2017 05:55:56

    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Sun Nov 12 2017 18:44:25

    Yeah, I think the mobile keyboard does take up quite a bit of space, but probably more an issue of mobile devices rather than the app itself. I h smart phone with a real keyboard once (the screen slid to the side to rev the keyboard underneath) - I wish more smartphones had a real keyboard li that so you didn't have to use an on-screen keyboard so much.

    I really miss having a cell phone with an actual physical keyboard. I had a Kyocera Rise a few years ago that I had Turbo DOSBox and AIDE on it.

    Sadly, I think the latest trend is to not have a physical keyboard and use glass for the screen. I hate glass in general, and phone I have now has two cracks running across the screen; seems to be getting worse.

    -jag
    Code it, Scrip it, Automate it!
    well your phone is bluetooth so how about a bluetooth keyboard. that should work

    ---
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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Bigbangnet on Saturday, November 18, 2017 18:20:45
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Bigbangnet to Jagossel on Sat Nov 18 2017 10:04:15

    I really miss having a cell phone with an actual physical keyboard. I had Kyocera Rise a few years ago that I had Turbo DOSBox and AIDE on it.

    well your phone is bluetooth so how about a bluetooth keyboard. that should work

    Good point. It's not quite the same as having the whole packages, unless there's a foldable bluetooth keyboad and phone cover... that'll be close enough.

    -jag
    Code it, Script it, Automate it!

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  • From Derision@VERT/AMIGAC to Bigbangnet on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 01:16:30
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Bigbangnet to Jagossel on Sat Nov 18 2017 10:04:15

    well your phone is bluetooth so how about a bluetooth keyboard. that should work

    I've used a Bluetooth keyboard with my Android phone. Also used a bluetooth mouse with it. Both work surprisingly well!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Amiga City - The BBS for the Amiga - more than 2,500+ files
  • From harry crotchington@VERT/KK4QBN to All on Thursday, February 08, 2018 07:29:13
    I'm new to the BBS Scene, Of course my last name is fake, but my name is harry and you can call me Chuy, this BBS is cool. I wish I was alive to see them in their "heyday" before all the popups that people call the world wide web.

    So far I'm loving what I see at this BBS I visited. How many BBS systems are out there and can I talk to all of them here? I like the BBS I'm on, the person running it leaves me alone. I tried calling another before this one but before I could get signed up all the way the operator already had me in a chat window talking to me about stuff that I had no idea what they were talking about.

    O hope to make some friends, and I believe I will make this my home bbs, and visit others from time to time as long as I'mg left alone long enough to do something.

    Talk to you later BBS world!

    ---
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to harry crotchington on Thursday, February 08, 2018 09:43:43
    Re: Hello
    By: harry crotchington to All on Thu Feb 08 2018 07:29 am

    I'm new to the BBS Scene, Of course my last name is fake, but my name is harry and you can call me Chuy, this BBS is cool. I wish I was alive to see them in their "heyday" before all the popups that people call the world wide web.

    "This BBS".. Did you know you're posting on a networked sub-board that is accessed by many BBSes?

    It was fun to use BBSes back in their heyday, and it was also really cool to see something like FidoNet and other message networks where many BBSes were able to exchange messages with each other..

    So far I'm loving what I see at this BBS I visited. How many BBS systems are out there and can I talk to all of them here? I like the BBS I'm on,

    Some BBSes carry message networks, one of which you're posting on, so you can reach a lot of BBSes that way. There are also other message networks - too many to list, although FidoNet was always a big one..

    the person running it leaves me alone. I tried calling another before this one but before I could get signed up all the way the operator already had me in a chat window talking to me about stuff that I had no idea what they were talking about.

    That's called being social.. Many BBS sysops liked to chat with the users, and also, many users liked to chat with the sysops too, as a way to get to know the person running the BBS. Back in the day I ran a BBS (1994-2000), and I got a lot of users who would page me just to chat and get to know me, etc. There was even one user who I ended up playing Doom and Doom 2 multiplayer via modem with fairly often..

    Nightfox

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    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to harry crotchington on Thursday, February 08, 2018 16:36:12
    Re: Hello
    By: harry crotchington to All on Thu Feb 08 2018 07:29 am

    I'm new to the BBS Scene, Of course my last name is fake, but my name is harry and you can call me Chuy, this BBS is cool. I wish I was alive to see them in their "heyday" before all the popups that people call the world wide


    sorry we dont allow fake names in bbsing.
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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to Nightfox on Thursday, February 08, 2018 22:33:51
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to harry crotchington on Thu Feb 08 2018 09:43 am

    That's called being social.. Many BBS sysops liked to chat with the users, and also, many users liked to chat with the sysops too, as a way to get to know the person running the BBS. Back in the day I ran a BBS (1994-2000), and I got a lot of users who would page me just to chat and get to know me, etc. There was even one user who I ended up playing Doom and Doom 2 multiplayer via modem with fairly often..

    Nightfox

    Oh man do I miss those days. Only problem was I spent no time with my wife and kid. Some advice to you younger computer lovers if you want to keep your family spend time with them. Just sayin.


    HusTler

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to harry crotchington on Friday, February 09, 2018 07:16:00
    harry crotchington wrote to All <=-

    @VIA: VERT/KK4QBN
    I'm new to the BBS Scene, Of course my last name is fake, but my name
    is harry and you can call me Chuy, this BBS is cool. I wish I was alive
    to see them in their "heyday" before all the popups that people call
    the world wide web.

    Welcome to BBSing. Yes, the heyday of BBSing was a great time to be online. It was very different, more of a "local community" feel. While it's nice to be back on the boards, I still do miss that something the modem days had.


    ... It's no secret a man's conscience can sometimes be a pest.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to Nightfox on Friday, February 09, 2018 13:55:58
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to harry crotchington on Thu Feb 08 2018 09:43:43

    That's called being social.. Many BBS sysops liked to chat with the users, and also, many users liked to chat with the sysops too, as a way to get to know the person running the BBS. Back in the day I ran a BBS (1994-2000), and I got a lot of users who would page me just to chat and get to know me, etc. There was even one user who I ended up playing Doom and Doom 2 multiplayer via modem with fairly often..
    Nightfox

    Exactly the reason for me to start the BBS again... I miss those times...

    HAWKEYE

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MASH4077.DDNS.NET - MASH BBS - The Netherlands
  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to MRO on Friday, February 09, 2018 13:57:18
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to harry crotchington on Thu Feb 08 2018 16:36:12

    I'm new to the BBS Scene, Of course my last name is fake, but my name is
    sorry we dont allow fake names in bbsing.

    In the 90s we would send a netmail to all BBSes around and give this account with as much as info we had a lockout...

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    þ Synchronet þ MASH4077.DDNS.NET - MASH BBS - The Netherlands
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Hustler on Friday, February 09, 2018 09:26:22
    Re: Hello
    By: Hustler to Nightfox on Thu Feb 08 2018 10:33 pm

    Oh man do I miss those days. Only problem was I spent no time with my wife and kid. Some advice to you younger computer lovers if you want to keep your family spend time with them. Just sayin.

    Yep, it's good to keep that balance and remember what's important in life. It's fine to have hobbies & things you like to do and work on, but family is important.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Bigbangnet@VERT/MTLGEEK to Nightfox on Friday, February 09, 2018 15:45:51
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to harry crotchington on Thu Feb 08 2018 09:43:43

    omg, I ended up playing doom 2 and warcraft 2 over some friends I made on a bbs
    as well. BBS's social aspect was/still is great. I even knew a BBS that could run doom 2 on it and was able to play 4 players on it. I don't know how he managed to do it though. I'd like to know.


    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com/ -
  • From Bigbangnet@VERT/MTLGEEK to Nightfox on Friday, February 09, 2018 15:50:12
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Hustler on Fri Feb 09 2018 09:26:22

    Re: Hello
    By: Hustler to Nightfox on Thu Feb 08 2018 10:33 pm

    Oh man do I miss those days. Only problem was I spent no time with my wife and kid. Some advice to you younger computer lovers if you want
    to keep your family spend time with them. Just sayin.

    Yep, it's good to keep that balance and remember what's important in life. It's fine to have hobbies & things you like to do and work on, but family
    is important.
    Theres one thing I like to do is when you're in my house at my table and eating...nothing electronic while were eating. In this day and age of electronic gadgets, I feel the family table should be reserved to speaking with
    your mouth only. Thats the only social aspect that I allow at my table. Besides
    theres plently of time left for that ipad or checking your emails after you eat.

    Of course I don't take your phone and smash it on the ground. I just polity remember them that their friends and family are around them and they don't need
    their phones or gadgets to talk to them or something similar. It always works.


    ---
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Bigbangnet on Friday, February 09, 2018 14:19:14
    Re: Hello
    By: Bigbangnet to Nightfox on Fri Feb 09 2018 03:45 pm

    omg, I ended up playing doom 2 and warcraft 2 over some friends I made on a bbs as well. BBS's social aspect was/still is great. I even knew a BBS that could run doom 2 on it and was able to play 4 players on it. I don't know how he managed to do it though. I'd like to know.

    Years ago I also saw a BBS that allowed playing a game (Descent or Descent 2, I think) multi-player through the BBS. I don't know how that worked.. Back in the day, I eventually started using Kali to play DOS multiplayer games over the internet (Kali emulated an IPX/SPX network for such games to allow them to be played over an IP-based network such as the internet).

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Friday, February 09, 2018 14:37:04
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Bigbangnet on Fri Feb 09 2018 02:19 pm

    Re: Hello
    By: Bigbangnet to Nightfox on Fri Feb 09 2018 03:45 pm

    omg, I ended up playing doom 2 and warcraft 2 over some friends I made on a bbs as well. BBS's social aspect was/still is great. I even knew a BBS that could run doom 2 on it and was able to play 4 players on it. I don't know how he managed to do it though. I'd like to know.

    Years ago I also saw a BBS that allowed playing a game (Descent or Descent 2, I think) multi-player through the BBS. I don't know how that worked.. Back in the day, I eventually started using Kali to play DOS multiplayer games over the internet (Kali emulated an IPX/SPX network for such games to allow them to be played over an IP-based network such as the internet).

    Domain Entertainment had an add-on for Synchronet (or maybe it worked for other BBS software too) - which allowed multiplayer DOOM and other games through the BBS. I forget what it was called, but apparently it was not the only solution out there.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #26:
    FTSC = FidoNet Technical Standards Committee
    Norco, CA WX: 76.6øF, 34.0% humidity, 6 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Friday, February 09, 2018 14:42:03
    Re: Hello
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Feb 09 2018 02:37 pm

    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Bigbangnet on Fri Feb 09 2018 02:19 pm

    Re: Hello
    By: Bigbangnet to Nightfox on Fri Feb 09 2018 03:45 pm

    omg, I ended up playing doom 2 and warcraft 2 over some friends I made on a bbs as well. BBS's social aspect was/still is great. I even knew a BBS that could run doom 2 on it and was able to play 4 players on it. I don't know how he managed to do it though. I'd like to know.

    Years ago I also saw a BBS that allowed playing a game (Descent or Descent 2, I think) multi-player through the BBS. I don't know how that worked.. Back in the day, I eventually started using Kali to play DOS multiplayer games over the internet (Kali emulated an IPX/SPX network for such games to allow them to be played over an IP-based network such as the internet).

    Domain Entertainment had an add-on for Synchronet (or maybe it worked for other BBS software too) - which allowed multiplayer DOOM and other games through the BBS. I forget what it was called, but apparently it was not the only solution out there.

    Ah, found it:

    Directory : (4) Synchronet Files from Other Developers
    Filename : DDL100C.ZIP
    File size : 65,971
    Credit value : FREE
    Description : Domain DataLink v1.00c - DOOM & More on your BBS! MORE SPE Uploaded by : -> ADDFILES <-
    File date : Tue Nov 18 1997 02:06 pm
    Uploaded on : Sat Jul 27 2002 01:11 am
    Last downloaded : Tue Jun 27 2017 09:20 pm
    Times downloaded : 191

    Domain DataLink v1.00c - DOOM & More on your BBS!
    MORE SPEED IMPROVEMENTS! FASTER, FASTER!
    Domain DataLink allows for your users
    to play DOOM, Falcon 3, DOOM ][, and
    many other modem games through your BBS.
    It also allows for DIRECT user to user
    transfers and more!
    Works with most BBS packages supporting
    XTRN.DAT, DOOR.SYS, PCBOARD.SYS,
    DORINFO#.DEF, SFDOORS.DAT, and CHAIN.TXT
    dropfiles.

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #33:
    Nigel Tufnel: Well, so what? What's wrong with bein' sexy?
    Norco, CA WX: 76.6øF, 34.0% humidity, 6 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Marisag@VERT/AMIGAC to harry crotchington on Friday, February 09, 2018 19:35:12
    Re: Hello
    By: harry crotchington to All on Thu Feb 08 2018 07:29:13

    Hi, nice to meet you! All the dovenet message areas are linked togather with dozens of other bbs's..

    Marisa
    --- https://AmigaCity.xyz - Portal for the Amiga - More than 2,600 free DLs
    --- https://AmigaCityLaptops.com - Laptops & Handhelds that run AmigaOS
    --- https://AmigaCity.xyz/radio.html - Amiga game music 24/7
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Friday, February 09, 2018 16:16:01
    Re: Hello
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Feb 09 2018 02:37 pm

    Years ago I also saw a BBS that allowed playing a game (Descent or
    Descent 2, I think) multi-player through the BBS. I don't know how

    Domain Entertainment had an add-on for Synchronet (or maybe it worked for other BBS software too) - which allowed multiplayer DOOM and other games through the BBS. I forget what it was called, but apparently it was not the only solution out there.

    Interesting.. I think the one I saw was for MajorBBS.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Bigbangnet on Friday, February 09, 2018 22:39:56
    Re: Hello
    By: Bigbangnet to Nightfox on Fri Feb 09 2018 03:45 pm

    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to harry crotchington on Thu Feb 08 2018 09:43:43

    omg, I ended up playing doom 2 and warcraft 2 over some friends I made on a bbs
    as well. BBS's social aspect was/still is great. I even knew a BBS that could run doom 2 on it and was able to play 4 players on it. I don't know how he managed to do it though. I'd like to know.



    there was software you could use. worldgroup could do it , too.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Bigbangnet on Friday, February 09, 2018 22:40:18
    Re: Hello
    By: Bigbangnet to Nightfox on Fri Feb 09 2018 03:50 pm

    Theres one thing I like to do is when you're in my house at my table and eating...nothing electronic while were eating. In this day and age of electronic gadgets, I feel the family table should be reserved to speaking with
    your mouth only. Thats the only social aspect that I allow at my table. Besides

    you suck!
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Friday, February 09, 2018 22:42:35
    Re: Hello
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Feb 09 2018 02:42 pm

    to play DOOM, Falcon 3, DOOM ][, and
    many other modem games through your BBS.
    It also allows for DIRECT user to user
    transfers and more!
    Works with most BBS packages supporting
    XTRN.DAT, DOOR.SYS, PCBOARD.SYS,
    DORINFO#.DEF, SFDOORS.DAT, and CHAIN.TXT
    dropfiles.

    digital man


    i think i used to play against my users one on one by killing my bbs but leaving the call open and running the software.

    my friend spent a ton of money on worldgroup and addons and we played 4 player doom2 ONCE against eachother.
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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to HARRY CROTCHINGTON on Saturday, February 10, 2018 07:34:00
    HARRY CROTCHINGTON wrote to ALL <=-

    @VIA: KK4QBN
    @MSGID: <5A7C4299.6858.dove-general@kk4qbn.com>
    I'm new to the BBS Scene, Of course my last name is fake, but my name
    is harry and you can call me Chuy, this BBS is cool. I wish I was alive
    to see them in their "heyday" before all the popups that people call
    the world wide web.

    Welcome! I'm not a sysop (BBS operator) - just another user - but
    I love the message bases and the 'real' conversation!

    So far I'm loving what I see at this BBS I visited. How many BBS
    systems are out there and can I talk to all of them here? I like the
    BBS I'm on, the person running it leaves me alone. I tried calling
    another before this one but before I could get signed up all the way
    the operator already had me in a chat window talking to me about stuff that I had no idea what they were talking about.

    No idea how many there still are in the world, but it's nice that
    you can telnet pretty much anywhere. The one I use is the closest
    to 'home' that I could find - it's about 80 miles away. Would
    love for there to be something actually local, but those days
    are long gone. :-)

    There are fewer and fewer users out there. The sysop was probably
    excited to meet someone new! :-)

    O hope to make some friends, and I believe I will make this my home
    bbs, and visit others from time to time as long as I'mg left alone long enough to do something.

    Where is home to you? BBS home and is it close to you? I telnet to
    one in Memphis, but I'm actually in Northwest Tennessee.

    Also - what other hobbies do you have? I'm a HAM Radio operator, but
    that's lower down on the hobby list. I'm a musician and I love gaming
    (I play SOME video games, but I'm talking RPG's, board games, etc. -
    x-wing minis is my favorite game right now - I still run Car Wars games
    online for people, and I just ordered Gaslands).




    ... A day without radiation is a day without sunshine.
    --- MultiMail/Darwin v0.49
    þ wcQWK 7.0 ÷ Omicron Theta * Olive Branch MS * (662) 408-4283
  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to HUSTLER on Saturday, February 10, 2018 07:36:00
    HUSTLER wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    Oh man do I miss those days. Only problem was I spent no time with my
    wife and kid. Some advice to you younger computer lovers if you want to keep your family spend time with them. Just sayin.


    Good advice to anyone. :-) Most of my BBS'ing back in the day was
    late at night when I couldn't sleep. And my wife enjoyed the BBS's
    too, so that was okay. :-)


    ... I am Procrastitron. I will destroy you, eventually.
    --- MultiMail/Darwin v0.49
    þ wcQWK 7.0 ÷ Omicron Theta * Olive Branch MS * (662) 408-4283
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to HUSTLER on Friday, February 09, 2018 16:33:00
    Oh man do I miss those days. Only problem was I spent no time with my wife an H>kid. Some advice to you younger computer lovers if you want to keep your fami H>spend time with them. Just sayin.

    Do you, Sysop, take this BBS, to be your lawfully wedded spouse??

    Well, the computer is in the bedroom, but I'm the one getting screwed.


    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Why are they called stairs inside, but steps outside?
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Hustler@VERT/CBLISS to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sunday, February 11, 2018 18:08:01
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to HUSTLER on Sat Feb 10 2018 07:36:00

    HUSTLER wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    Oh man do I miss those days. Only problem was I spent no time with my wife and kid. Some advice to you younger computer lovers if you want to keep your family spend time with them. Just sayin.


    Good advice to anyone. :-) Most of my BBS'ing back in the day was
    late at night when I couldn't sleep. And my wife enjoyed the BBS's
    too, so that was okay. :-)


    ... I am Procrastitron. I will destroy you, eventually.

    Wow! Your wife enjoyed BBS'in? How did you meet? I've often wondered
    what it be like to have someone with similar intrests. Good for you!

    HusTler

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ chaotic bliss - chaoticbliss.darktech.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Sunday, February 11, 2018 12:17:00
    Yep, it's good to keep that balance and remember what's important in life. N>It's fine to have hobbies & things you like to do and work on, but family is N>important.

    Q: Do you, Sysop, take this BBS, to be your lawfully wedded spouse??
    A: Well, it's in the bedroom, but I'm the one getting screwed. :P

    That was the way it was before I got married in 2003 (been a widower
    since 2007). But, my wife (and Co-Sysop) were truly "A Married With
    Modem Couple", and had ironically met on a BBS run by the local
    college's computer science department.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Old Virus Detected - Ask your Hacker for a new version.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sunday, February 11, 2018 12:19:00
    Jimmy,

    Good advice to anyone. :-) Most of my BBS'ing back in the day was
    late at night when I couldn't sleep. And my wife enjoyed the BBS's
    too, so that was okay. :-)

    That's where I met the woman who was to become my wife many years
    later...on a BBS run by the computer science department of the local
    college. While the BBS is gone, I'm the college's ham radio club license
    exam team leader.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ On my Train Of Thought, 99% are riding for half fare!!
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Daryl Stout on Monday, February 12, 2018 09:31:08
    Re: Hello
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Sun Feb 11 2018 12:17 pm

    Q: Do you, Sysop, take this BBS, to be your lawfully wedded spouse??
    A: Well, it's in the bedroom, but I'm the one getting screwed. :P

    Reminds me of a comic I saw a while ago.. "Do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband? Do you take her to be your lawfully wedded wife? You may now update your Facebook status."

    That was the way it was before I got married in 2003 (been a widower
    since 2007). But, my wife (and Co-Sysop) were truly "A Married With
    Modem Couple", and had ironically met on a BBS run by the local
    college's computer science department.

    That's cool. :)

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to HUSTLER on Monday, February 12, 2018 17:26:00
    Wow! Your wife enjoyed BBS'in? How did you meet? I've often wondered
    what it be like to have someone with similar intrests. Good for you!

    Even though this directed to Jimmy Anderson, that's how I met the
    woman who'd later become my wife.

    The local college (the University Of Arkansas At Little Rock) Computer Science Department, had a BBS...and that's where we met. We were friends
    for 17 1/2 years, and never thought about marriage...let alone to each
    other. She eventually became a user, then Co-Sysop, then Married With
    Modem Sysop.

    Her eyesight wasn't that great, but she'd spot errors in bulletins,
    etc. that I'd miss!! She also was a fierce competitor in the
    doorgames...a great winner, but she sure was a sore loser!!

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Real Sysops read the documentation; or at least skim them
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 14:13:34
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Daryl Stout to HUSTLER on Mon Feb 12 2018 05:26 pm

    Wow! Your wife enjoyed BBS'in? How did you meet? I've often wondered
    what it be like to have someone with similar intrests. Good for you!
    Even though this directed to Jimmy Anderson, that's how I met the
    woman who'd later become my wife.

    The local college (the University Of Arkansas At Little Rock) Computer Science Department, had a BBS...and that's where we met. We were friends for 17 1/2 years, and never thought about marriage...let alone to each other. She eventually became a user, then Co-Sysop, then Married With Modem Sysop.


    What a great story! I wonder if this happened to other BBS goers. I attended a few user meets back the day. I don't recall seeing many women at the meets. Who knew where online dating would go?

    ... YouTube, Twitter, & FaceBook will combine to form YouTwitFace.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 08:22:00
    Nightfox wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    Reminds me of a comic I saw a while ago.. "Do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband? Do you take her to be your lawfully
    wedded wife? You may now update your Facebook status."

    ROFL!!! :D


    ... 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence?
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 21:18:00
    Q: Do you, Sysop, take this BBS, to be your lawfully wedded spouse??
    A: Well, it's in the bedroom, but I'm the one getting screwed. :P

    Reminds me of a comic I saw a while ago.. "Do you take this man to be your N>lawfully wedded husband? Do you take her to be your lawfully wedded wife? Y N>may now update your Facebook status."

    I saw that one!! I thought "Has it really come down to this??!!". :P

    That was the way it was before I got married in 2003 (been a widower since 2007). But, my wife (and Co-Sysop) were truly "A Married With Modem Couple", and had ironically met on a BBS run by the local college's computer science department.

    That's cool. :)

    I thought so, too. I really loved the local gatherings, to put names
    to faces, and especially to "graze". Like so many other things, you
    don't call us "late for dinner". <G>

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Save the whales. Collect the whole set.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to HUSTLER on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 11:22:00
    What a great story! I wonder if this happened to other BBS goers. I attended H>few user meets back the day. I don't recall seeing many women at the meets. W H>knew where online dating would go?

    We had quite a few female users in the area. One heavy set woman ran
    an adult BBS in the area, and was "carding" potential users at the
    gatherings. There were actually 2 adult BBS's in the area...both, like
    all the rest, are long gone now (I have a bulletin on my BBS, listing
    the long gone BBS's in Arkansas). Janice never cared for stuff like
    that, and I never called those BBS's...even though I was of legal age.

    One thing we did do, though...as husband and wife...was what we called
    "Adult HGTV"...buying porn. The reason for that was when you have an
    underlying medical condition of some sort (such as diabetes), it
    adversely affects ones libido...never mind the lady who filed a lawsuit
    against Wal-Mart, who said "she lost her libido after falling off of a
    stool"!! :P

    Anyway, we used the adult videos to "prime the pump". Yet, the funnier
    part was that we "critiqued" the videos...whether on Valentine's Day
    (which it is as I type this), or otherwise.

    Now in some of them, the items on the sets, such as the bed, the
    chandelier, and the framed paintings, were neat. The woodworking pattern
    on the bed frames were exquisite...and you could tell that a lot of
    time and effort was put into crafting it. The chandelier lights added a
    certain ambience to the atmosphere, plus the paintings were beautiful,
    and varied.

    But, one thing neither Janice nor myself could figure out was WHY the
    women had to keep those pointy high heel shoes on while having sex!! I
    said "I'd be afraid of getting gored to death!!". :P I heard some say
    that "the woman feels it's sexy to have them on"...thanks, but no
    thanks!! :P

    Outside of that, when a member of the opposite sex gave us a hug,
    kiss, etc., we'd razz the other one unmercilessly. Yet, as a paraphrase
    of the country-western song noted, "We had all the love, that one could want...waiting for us at home". We knew which side "our bread was
    buttered on", and we had that trust and commitment between us, in so
    many ways. Tragically, I lost my wife to a massive heart attack 3 weeks
    shy of our 4th wedding anniversary (nearly 11 years ago now), and I have
    never re-married. I didn't marry until I was 43...but, never dreamed
    that I'd be a widower at 47.

    Sadly, nowadays, so many relationships don't have that. I heard of 4 instances of this "lack of commitment":

    1) At one wedding reception, 15 minutes after they were pronounced "man
    and wife", the newly married couple announced that they were getting a divorce!!

    2) At another reception, the groom angrily tore up the marriage
    certificate and license. In some areas now, if you don't return that to
    the place of issuance (such as the County Courthouse) within a certain
    time period, you have to pay a hefty fine.

    3) At another reception, the couple got into a knock down, drag out,
    whip your ass fight. I don't know if others got into the brawl, or if
    the police had to be called.

    4) At the altar, when the preacher said "If there's anyone here, who
    doesn't want this couple married, let them speak now, or forever hold
    their peace"...it was the bride who spoke up...she got cold feet at the
    altar!! But, both families were absolutely furious, as they had spent
    all that money!!

    As a side note, when Janice and I went down to the county
    courthouse to get our marriage license, the court reporter made a
    mistake in preparing it. She entered the year of my wife's birth as 1658 INSTEAD of 1958!! I said "She sure looks good for 344 years of age"...to
    which Janice quipped "Well, I do sell Avon!!" <BG>. It brought the house
    down in laughter...so much so, that the law enforcement officers in the building came inside to see what was going on. The clerk was as red as a
    tomato from embarrassment!! :P She had to tear up the botched license,
    and start over...entering the data via a typewriter!!

    ... YouTube, Twitter, & FaceBook will combine to form YouTwitFace.

    In a word, really.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Sex: A misdemeanor. The more you miss, the meaner you get
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Elaek@VERT/CPUGOD to Daryl Stout on Thursday, February 15, 2018 06:09:43
    But never dreamed I'd be a widower at 47


    That's rough man, sorry to hear that. Enjoyed your story though.
    And yeah, it seems after the 2008 crash our entire culture shifted, divorce rates skyrocketed and with a generation of kids being raised during a messy divorce many young adults don't want to get married. It's sad, but understandable.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Computer God!!! - Get Involved - W est Jordan, Ut. telnet://cpugod.synchro.net
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Elaek on Thursday, February 15, 2018 09:46:40
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Elaek to Daryl Stout on Thu Feb 15 2018 06:09 am

    during a messy divorce many young adults don't want to get married. It's sad, but understandable.

    I've heard from people who say they don't want to get married, yet they seem to be just as willing to be in a committed relationship as anyone else.. So I don't quite understand the logic.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Ed Vance@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HusTler on Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:25:00
    02-13-18 14:13 HusTler wrote to Daryl Stout about Re: Hello
    Howdy! HusTler,

    @VIA: VERT/PHARCYDE
    @MSGID: <5A8346EE.910.dove-gen@pharcyde.org>
    @REPLY: <5A8224A4.4127.dove-general@wx1der.dyndns.org>
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Daryl Stout to HUSTLER on Mon Feb 12 2018 05:26 pm

    Wow! Your wife enjoyed BBS'in? How did you meet? I've often wondered
    what it be like to have someone with similar intrests. Good for you!
    Even though this directed to Jimmy Anderson, that's how I met the
    woman who'd later become my wife.

    The local college (the University Of Arkansas At Little Rock) Computer Science Department, had a BBS...and that's where we met. We were friends for 17 1/2 years, and never thought about marriage...let alone to each other. She eventually became a user, then Co-Sysop, then Married With Modem Sysop.


    What a great story! I wonder if this happened to other BBS goers. I attended a few user meets back the day. I don't recall seeing many
    women at the meets. Who knew where online dating would go?

    I Remember in the late 1980's a BBS SysOp in the Louisville, Kentucky
    area Married a Lady User of His BBS.


    ... YouTube, Twitter, & FaceBook will combine to form YouTwitFace.

    Good Tagline, Thanks!


    --- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, February 15, 2018 20:10:21
    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Elaek on Thu Feb 15 2018 09:46 am

    Re: Re: Re: Hello
    By: Elaek to Daryl Stout on Thu Feb 15 2018 06:09 am

    during a messy divorce many young adults don't want to get married. It's sad, but understandable.

    I've heard from people who say they don't want to get married, yet they seem to be just as willing to be in a committed relationship as anyone else.. So I don't quite understand the logic.


    divorces arent really that messy anymore. it's pretty easy to get a divorce if both parties work together.

    you can be in a commited relationshit and still go through the same crap when you split up.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ED VANCE on Thursday, February 15, 2018 18:54:00
    I Remember in the late 1980's a BBS SysOp in the Louisville, Kentucky
    area Married a Lady User of His BBS.

    Wasn't me. :D

    ---
    þ SLMR 2.1a þ A distant ship, smoke on the horizon....
    þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
  • From Ed Vance@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Dumas Walker on Thursday, February 15, 2018 21:16:00
    02-15-18 18:54 Dumas Walker wrote to ED VANCE about Re: Hello
    Howdy! Mike,

    @MSGID: <5A862462.28101.dove-gen@capitolcityonline.net>
    @REPLY: <5A85C547.28092.dove-gen@capitolcityonline.net>
    I Remember in the late 1980's a BBS SysOp in the Louisville, Kentucky
    area Married a Lady User of His BBS.

    Wasn't me. :D

    Nope, twas a BBS SysOp near Your neighborhood back then (iirc).

    D. D. is who I'm thinking of.



    ... Famous Last Words: Oops.
    --- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to ELAEK on Friday, February 16, 2018 12:01:00
    But never dreamed I'd be a widower at 47

    That's rough man, sorry to hear that. Enjoyed your story though.

    Thanks.

    And yeah, it seems after the 2008 crash our entire culture shifted, divorce E>rates skyrocketed and with a generation of kids being raised during a messy E>divorce many young adults don't want to get married. It's sad, but E>understandable.

    My brother has been divorced 3 times...each time, the woman "screwed
    him over" (and not in the "traditional way" :P ). I doubt he'll ever get married again. He, like so many of us, doesn't like to be lectured, and
    told what to do. But, in a relationship, both sides have to give and
    take, for it it work.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Z-Modem: A modem that has been given a tranquilizer.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Friday, February 16, 2018 12:06:00
    during a messy divorce many young adults don't want to get married. It's sad, but understandable.

    I've heard from people who say they don't want to get married, yet they seem N>be just as willing to be in a committed relationship as anyone else.. So I N>don't quite understand the logic.

    See the tagline below. <G>

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ "Do you, Sysop, take this BBS, to be your wedded spouse?"
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to HUSTLER on Saturday, February 17, 2018 06:23:00
    HUSTLER wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-


    Wow! Your wife enjoyed BBS'in? How did you meet? I've often wondered what it be like to have someone with similar intrests. Good for you!

    We met at church - we had been married several years before
    BBS's came along. :-)



    ... Almost had a psychic girlfriend - she left me before we met.
    --- MultiMail/Darwin v0.49
    þ wcQWK 7.0 ÷ Omicron Theta * Olive Branch MS * (662) 408-4283
  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ED VANCE on Saturday, February 17, 2018 06:35:00
    Nope, twas a BBS SysOp near Your neighborhood back then (iirc).
    D. D. is who I'm thinking of.

    Yeah, I remember hearing about that. I had forgot all about it! :D

    ---
    þ SLMR 2.1a þ "Did you open the Microwave door before the 'ding'"?
    þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
  • From Bigbangnet@VERT/MTLGEEK to Nightfox on Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:47:46
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Bigbangnet on Fri Feb 09 2018 14:19:14

    Oh ya, I remember Kali. i used it too. But that was too long ago. I can't remember a thing about it.


    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com/ -
  • From Bigbangnet@VERT/MTLGEEK to MRO on Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:49:36
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Bigbangnet on Fri Feb 09 2018 22:40:18

    Re: Hello
    By: Bigbangnet to Nightfox on Fri Feb 09 2018 03:50 pm

    Theres one thing I like to do is when you're in my house at my table and eating...nothing electronic while were eating. In this day and age of electronic gadgets, I feel the family table should be reserved to speaking with
    your mouth only. Thats the only social aspect that I allow at my table. Besides

    you suck!
    At least I'm social...or trying too anyways. I'm old fashion

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com/ -
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Bigbangnet on Thursday, February 22, 2018 08:56:17
    Re: Hello
    By: Bigbangnet to Nightfox on Thu Feb 22 2018 10:47 am

    Oh ya, I remember Kali. i used it too. But that was too long ago. I can't remember a thing about it.

    I remember Kali had chat rooms (similar to IRC) for the various multiplayer DOS games that were popular so you could see who's playing what and go join a game.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Bigbangnet on Friday, February 23, 2018 20:46:57
    Re: Hello
    By: Bigbangnet to MRO on Thu Feb 22 2018 10:49 am

    Theres one thing I like to do is when you're in my house at my table and eating...nothing electronic while were eating. In this day and age of electronic gadgets, I feel the family table should be reserved to speaking with
    your mouth only. Thats the only social aspect that I allow at my table. Besides

    you suck!
    At least I'm social...or trying too anyways. I'm old fashion


    i dont like to talk when i'm eating. i was thinking of your post the other day when i was at a restaurant. there was a big group and there was a lady there who was being annoying and never really eating much.

    i really enjoy using my phone on keeping up with news or whatever. i like to be entertained. people suck.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Nodoka Hanamura@VERT/NEOCINCI to All on Wednesday, October 02, 2019 14:25:00
    Hey there, everyone.

    Hopefully this message reaches you all, I'm Nodoka, a new BBS SysOp from the states, and uh.. I genuinely hope to god what just happened did not just happen.

    Long story short, for god knows what reason my Mystic BBS system, (I know
    this place is a Syncrhonet-oriented network) while I was configuring QWK and getting it going, confused my board's local announcements board - how I'll never know, for the Advertisements board.

    And the state showed as sent on my end, before I had frantically deleted it, hoping that Mystic was off its'goddamn rocker. Apparently on my end when I
    did a manual initial qwkpoll, nothing went out apparently (0 exports), so I'm just going to hope that after sending this out, this will be the only message that goes out.

    ... That weird banter aside, it's nice to meet all of you.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/32)
    * Origin: NeoCincinnati BBS
  • From echto@VERT/ECHTOBBS to Nodoka Hanamura on Thursday, October 03, 2019 00:06:10
    Re: Hello
    By: Nodoka Hanamura to All on Wed Oct 02 2019 02:25 pm

    Hey there, everyone.

    Hopefully this message reaches you all, I'm Nodoka, a new BBS SysOp from the states, and uh.. I genuinely hope to god what just happened did not just happen.

    Long story short, for god knows what reason my Mystic BBS system, (I know this place is a Syncrhonet-oriented network) while I was configuring QWK and getting it going, confused my board's local announcements board - how I'll never know, for the Advertisements board.

    And the state showed as sent on my end, before I had frantically deleted it, hoping that Mystic was off its'goddamn rocker. Apparently on my end when I did a manual initial qwkpoll, nothing went out apparently (0 exports), so I'm just going to hope that after sending this out, this will be the only message that goes out.

    ... That weird banter aside, it's nice to meet all of you.

    Hello back! :) This is the only message I have seen from your bbs.

    And welcome to BBS land. :)

    echto

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Pure Threadripper. --==={bbs.echto.net}===--
  • From Lupine Furmen@VERT/FURFOL to Nodoka Hanamura on Thursday, October 03, 2019 01:33:40
    Re: Hello
    By: Nodoka Hanamura to All on Wed Oct 02 2019 14:25:00

    Hey there, everyone.

    Hopefully this message reaches you all, I'm Nodoka, a new BBS SysOp from the states, and uh.. I genuinely hope to god what just happened did not just happen.

    Long story short, for god knows what reason my Mystic BBS system, (I know this place is a Syncrhonet-oriented network) while I was configuring QWK and getting it going, confused my board's local announcements board - how I'll never know, for the Advertisements board.

    And the state showed as sent on my end, before I had frantically deleted it, hoping that Mystic was off its'goddamn rocker. Apparently on my end when I did a manual initial qwkpoll, nothing went out apparently (0 exports), so I'm just going to hope that after sending this out, this will be the only message that goes out.

    ... That weird banter aside, it's nice to meet all of you.

    Yep, this is the only message I've seen from you.

    -Dallas Vinson
    Furmens Folly - telnet: loybbs.net:23
    SSH: loybbs.net:23222
    Before the Web - telnet: loybbs.net:23232
    Legends of Yesteryear - telnet: loybbs.net:23322

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Furmen's Folly - loybbs.net:23
  • From Nodoka Hanamura@VERT/NEOCINCI to Lupine Furmen on Thursday, October 03, 2019 10:01:00
    Yep, this is the only message I've seen from you.

    That's a relief. Thank you :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/32)
    * Origin: NeoCincinnati BBS
  • From Nodoka Hanamura@VERT/NEOCINCI to echto on Thursday, October 03, 2019 10:02:00
    Hello back! :) This is the only message I have seen from your bbs.

    And welcome to BBS land. :)

    Thank you! It's good to be here.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/32)
    * Origin: NeoCincinnati BBS
  • From reeza@VERT/MSRDBBS to All on Monday, April 27, 2020 19:11:43
    Hello everybody! :)

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MS & RD BBs - bbs.mozysswamp.org
  • From Gegueure@VERT/REALITY to reeza on Monday, April 27, 2020 14:44:29
    Re: Hello
    By: reeza to All on Mon Apr 27 2020 07:11 pm

    Hello everybody! :)

    Well hello to you too fine person. Are you new to BBS as I am?
    My curiosity for all things retro brought me to the BBS, and I find them fascinating. I was always fond of pixel art, ascii/ansi art, and interfaces based on them so this is right up my alley, and perfect for sharing a 10Mb/s 600ms latency connection with 300 people and an IT infrastructure, as I currently am.

    I hope you and the people you love are doing well in these strange times.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Grease@VERT/DARKMATT to reeza on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 08:25:00
    On 04-27-20 18:11, reeza mumbled to All about Hello.

    Hello everybody! :)

    Howdy, reeza!
    Grease
    Dark Matter BBS

    QWK: DoveNet, fsxNet, SFNet, SciNet
    FTN: AgoraNet (46:10/135), Fidonet (1:106/101), TQWNet (1337:3/120)
    ... What is mind? No matter! What is matter? Never mind! - Homer S.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Dark Matter BBS. darkmatt.synchro.net. Howdy from Texas!
  • From James Christenbury@VERT/THEGATEB to All on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:00:07
    Hello All,

    New user here, believe it or not, I have never ever logged into a BBS before. This is pretty great stuff. Hope to make a lot of new friends here.

    Jimmy

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Gate BBS * thegateb.synchro.net * Cherryville, NC USA
  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to James Christenbury on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 08:01:00
    Hello All,
    New user here, believe it or not, I have never ever logged into a BBS before. This is pretty great stuff. Hope to make a lot of new friends here.

    Well welcome, Jimmy... its fun in here, take yer clothes off!

    Errrr, Nevermind...



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to James Christenbury on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 08:21:02
    Re: Hello
    By: James Christenbury to All on Tue Sep 15 2020 10:00 am

    New user here, believe it or not, I have never ever logged into a BBS before. This is pretty great stuff. Hope to make a lot of new friends here.

    Welcome!

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Gate Keeper@VERT/THEGATEB to James Christenbury on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:03:19
    Re: Hello
    By: James Christenbury to All on Tue Sep 15 2020 10:00 am

    Hello All,

    New user here, believe it or not, I have never ever logged into a BBS before This is pretty great stuff. Hope to make a lot of new friends here.

    Jimmy

    Hi Jimmy,

    Welcome to the wonderful world of BBS'ing!!!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Gate BBS * thegateb.synchro.net * Cherryville, NC USA
  • From Exodus@VERT/TTB to All on Saturday, February 19, 2022 22:38:00
    Testing this out!

    Hello World!

    ... The ox is slow, but the Earth is patient.
    --- MNET 2.10 [NR]
    þ The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info
  • From Exodus@VERT to All on Saturday, February 19, 2022 19:44:31
    Re: Hello
    By: Exodus to All on Sat Feb 19 2022 10:38 pm

    Testing this out!

    Hello World!

    ... The ox is slow, but the Earth is patient.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From ROBERT WOLFE@VERT/OTHETA to EXODUS on Sunday, February 20, 2022 09:22:00

    On Feb 19, 2022 10:38pm, EXODUS wrote to ALL:

    @VIA: TTB
    @MSGID: <6211B8CC.123314.dove-gen@vert.synchro.net>
    Testing this out!

    Hello World!

    ... The ox is slow, but the Earth is patient.
    --- MNET 2.10 [NR]
    þ The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info

    Welcome aboard! :)

    ... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
    ---
    þ wcQWK 8.0 ÷ Omicron Theta * Cordova, TN * winserver.org
  • From Dex Estrada@VERT/MYTHSTAR to Exodus on Sunday, February 20, 2022 12:31:40
    Re: Hello
    By: Exodus to All on Sat Feb 19 2022 10:38 pm

    Testing this out!
    Hello World!

    Hello, there :3
    I am dexilant.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Mythstar Space
  • From Kyler Vanderschee@VERT/DMINE to All on Thursday, April 07, 2022 23:24:59
    Just saying hi!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Diamond Mine Online BBS - bbs.dmine.net:24 - Fredericksburg, VA USA
  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Kyler Vanderschee on Friday, April 08, 2022 08:15:33
    Just saying hi!

    HI !

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com/ -
  • From Sam Alexander@VERT/BAUDOT to Kyler Vanderschee on Friday, April 08, 2022 18:14:54
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyler Vanderschee to All on Thu Apr 07 2022 11:24 pm

    Just saying hi!

    Howdy from Texas...

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Camping on the Internet at Camp Baudot BBS - campbaudot.com
  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Kyler Vanderschee on Friday, April 08, 2022 10:27:00
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyler Vanderschee to All on Thu Apr 07 2022 11:24 pm

    Just saying hi!

    Hello!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net
  • From Roalt@VERT/MMBBS1 to Kyler Vanderschee on Friday, April 08, 2022 13:18:49
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyler Vanderschee to All on Thu Apr 07 2022 11:24 pm

    Just saying hi!

    Hello & welcome!
    `'`' roalt `'`'

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Mental Meltdown! - mentalmeltdown.us
  • From Aaronfire7@VERT/CAVEBBS to All on Saturday, May 07, 2022 13:50:00
    Hello, I am brand new to this BBS and I'm sure you've seen people like me before but here goes nothing. I am in awe at this place! I cannot believe
    that this used to be what the internet was, and still is (Kind of)! It's fascinating to know that the Internet has come so far since the creation of
    the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for "Calling"!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Aaronfire7 on Saturday, May 07, 2022 14:56:38
    Re: Hello
    By: Aaronfire7 to All on Sat May 07 2022 01:50 pm

    Hello, I am brand new to this BBS and I'm sure you've seen people like me before but here goes nothing. I am in awe at this place! I cannot believe that this used to be what the internet was, and still is (Kind of)! It's fascinating to know that the Internet has come so far since the creation of the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for "Calling"!

    þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net

    Welcome!
    Keep in mind this is a networked message board, where your message can be read by people on many different BBSes. So when you say "this BBS", I assume you mean The Cave BBS?

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew about BBSes. There were so many BBSes in my area though, and it has been sad to see them all pretty much disappear except for a select few.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Nightfox on Sunday, May 08, 2022 10:59:41
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Aaronfire7 on Sat May 07 2022 02:56 pm

    Re: Hello
    By: Aaronfire7 to All on Sat May 07 2022 01:50 pm

    Hello, I am brand new to this BBS and I'm sure you've seen people like before but here goes nothing. I am in awe at this place! I cannot belie that this used to be what the internet was, and still is (Kind of)! It' fascinating to know that the Internet has come so far since the creatio of the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for "Calling"!

    þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net

    Welcome!
    Keep in mind this is a networked message board, where your message can be re by people on many different BBSes. So when you say "this BBS", I assume you mean The Cave BBS?

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew about BBSes. There were so many BBSes in my area though, and it has been sad to see them all pretty muc disappear except for a select few.

    Nightfox

    Probably should also point it this wasn't how The Internet was. BBS's were separate to the Internet. It was a way for people to connect computers and message and chat and share files without the Internet.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MS & RD BBs - bbs.mozysswamp.org
  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Aaronfire7 on Monday, May 09, 2022 10:15:49
    the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for "Calling"!

    Hi and welcome :-)

    I don't want to be the guy, but maybe 91-92 was the golden age, but BBS was there before that. 78 could be the start, I guess. A friend started his around 83.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com/ -
  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Ennev on Monday, May 09, 2022 14:36:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Ennev to Aaronfire7 on Mon May 09 2022 10:15 am

    the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for "Calling"!

    Hi and welcome :-)

    I don't want to be the guy, but maybe 91-92 was the golden age, but BBS was there before that. 78 could be the start, I guess. A friend started his arou 83.

    By 91, every area had more than one local BBS, and 2400 baud modems could be bought for cheap at the Electronics Boutique in the mall. ISP's didn't take over in my area until 96-97. Getting Windows 95 was the main reason many of our customers chose to upgrade. they have been happy with their 386's and 486's with 2400 baud modems, and were forced to move to a Pentium and a 14.4k modem

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net
  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Boraxman on Sunday, May 15, 2022 21:11:10
    Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Nightfox on Sun May 08 2022 10:59 am

    so far since the creatio of the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ outwestbbs.com - the Outwest BBS
  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Boraxman on Sunday, May 15, 2022 21:16:21
    Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Nightfox on Sun May 08 2022 10:59 am

    so far since the creatio of the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for

    Well BBS'ing really began in the 70's
    I ran my 1st BBS in the mid 80's.

    Keep in mind this is a networked message board, where your message can
    be re by people on many different BBSes. So when you say "this BBS",
    I assume you mean The Cave BBS?

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
    was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of
    households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
    about BBSes. There were so many BBSes in my area though, and it has
    been sad to see them all pretty muc disappear except for a select few.

    Yes, sad indeed, but now we're back and better.

    Probably should also point it this wasn't how The Internet was. BBS's were separate to the Internet. It was a way for people to connect computers and message and chat and share files without the Internet.

    True But BBS's were the first experience for many to connect to antother computer.

    ... Life is like... an analogy.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ outwestbbs.com - the Outwest BBS
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Denn on Monday, May 16, 2022 06:47:00
    Denn wrote to Boraxman <=-

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
    was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
    about BBSes.

    It felt like you were part of a secret society that few people you
    encountered even knew about. You'd meet someone and mention something
    about connect tones or downloading, and if you saw a glint in their
    eyes knew that they knew.


    ... It is simply a matter of work
    --- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.
  • From Margaerynne@VERT/BACKWOOD to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, May 17, 2022 15:57:14
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Mon May 16 2022 06:47 am

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
    was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of
    households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
    about BBSes.

    That's the most shocking thing to me, as a young'un. Reading BBS literature, it seems that, back in the 80s, every teenager had one running in their basement.

    Yet when I find people in that age range -- even the old techies! -- and ask about BBSes, I get a confused look and a "No, we really only just used computers for college."


    Part of that might be regional, seeing as how I'm from the middle part of the country, but I'm still stunned. Even people who can rattle off their old PC specs from memory don't seem to remember BBSes.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Backwood Realm BBS - bwrbbs.ddns.net - Southern Indiana, USA
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Monday, May 16, 2022 08:14:06
    Re: Hello
    By: Denn to Boraxman on Sun May 15 2022 09:16 pm

    Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Nightfox on Sun May 08 2022 10:59 am

    so far since the creatio of the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for

    Well BBS'ing really began in the 70's
    I ran my 1st BBS in the mid 80's.

    Keep in mind this is a networked message board, where your message can
    be re by people on many different BBSes. So when you say "this BBS",
    I assume you mean The Cave BBS?

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
    was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
    about BBSes. There were so many BBSes in my area though, and it has
    been sad to see them all pretty muc disappear except for a select few.

    Yes, sad indeed, but now we're back and better.

    Probably should also point it this wasn't how The Internet was. BBS's were separate to the Internet. It was a way for people to connect computers and message and chat and share files without the Internet.

    True But BBS's were the first experience for many to connect to antother computer.


    i think a lot of sysops are short sighted about bbsing and human interation.

    bbses provided a way for people to interact with eachother. the interaction is how that was fun. it had little to do with the bbses. it was a tool that provided interaction. now people use twitter, facebook, instagram and snapchat.

    nothing has changed.

    maybe we're autistic and keep focusing on the literal technology to truly realize this.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, May 17, 2022 13:24:08
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Mon May 16 2022 06:47 am

    Denn wrote to Boraxman <=-

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
    was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
    about BBSes.

    It felt like you were part of a secret society that few people you
    encountered even knew about. You'd meet someone and mention something
    about connect tones or downloading, and if you saw a glint in their
    eyes knew that they knew.



    someone got one of captain crunch's hugs.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Margaerynne on Tuesday, May 17, 2022 17:06:02
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 17 2022 03:57 pm

    That's the most shocking thing to me, as a young'un. Reading BBS literature, it seems that, back in the 80s, every teenager had one running in their basement.


    there's not much bbs literature. and no, not every teenager had a bbs in their basement. why would it be in the basement anyways?

    Yet when I find people in that age range -- even the old techies! -- and ask about BBSes, I get a confused look and a "No, we really only just used computers for college."

    people left that stuff behind.
    just like i left gopher behind. it sucks so i'm not going to use it again. when i used it, there wasnt anything better, but that has changed.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 08:38:56
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Mon May 16 2022 06:47 am

    Denn wrote to Boraxman <=-

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
    was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
    about BBSes.

    It felt like you were part of a secret society that few people you
    encountered even knew about. You'd meet someone and mention something
    about connect tones or downloading, and if you saw a glint in their
    eyes knew that they knew.


    ... It is simply a matter of work

    For me, it was being part of some underground. You had access to Module Tracker files, the Demoscene, cool ansi, a cyberpunk aesthetic and PeoPlE WhO WroTe LiKE tHiS uSInG CrAzy cAPs. That and the wierd obscure stuff you like find, like infamous manifesto's... *cough*.

    The 90's web was also pretty awesome, but its been homogenised to "Social Media" which is boooooring and bland now.

    BBS's were a destination, a place to visit, poke around. Some webpages were like that too but this model has lost favour to having a 'feed' style presentation.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MS & RD BBs - bbs.mozysswamp.org
  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to MRO on Tuesday, May 17, 2022 17:46:50
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Margaerynne on Tue May 17 2022 05:06 pm

    there's not much bbs literature. and no, not every teenager had a bbs in th

    I'm definitely no teenager, but my BBS is in the basement because that's where all my servers are.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ bbs.brazi.net þ www.brazi.net þ WARNING: May contain nuts
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Belly on Tuesday, May 17, 2022 19:31:05
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Belly to MRO on Tue May 17 2022 05:46 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Margaerynne on Tue May 17 2022 05:06 pm

    there's not much bbs literature. and no, not every teenager had a bbs in th

    I'm definitely no teenager, but my BBS is in the basement because that's where all my servers are.


    i'm talking about back then.

    hope you dont have a lot of moisture in your basement.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Margaerynne on Tuesday, May 17, 2022 18:09:14
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 17 2022 03:57 pm

    Yet when I find people in that age range -- even the old techies! -- and ask about BBSes, I get a confused look and a "No, we really only just used computers for college."

    Early on, you needed a dedicated PC - and you needed a phone line. Both could be expensive.

    I've always used hand-me-down PCs, but installing a phone line was still $75 for the install and another $25 or so a month, even with measured-rate calling. Since people were mostly calling the board, you could get per-call billing with a lower base cost than the flat-rate calling plans.

    Not everyone was willing to make that commitment, but they didn't have to - there were dozens of BBSes in most metropolitan calling areas.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Boraxman on Tuesday, May 17, 2022 18:11:29
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 18 2022 08:38 am

    For me, it was being part of some underground. You had access to Module Tracker files, the Demoscene, cool ansi, a cyberpunk aesthetic and PeoPlE WhO WroTe LiKE tHiS uSInG CrAzy cAPs. That and the wierd obscure stuff you like find, like infamous manifesto's... *cough*.

    And, the conspiracy theories! We all stayed up late BBSing and listening to Art Bell -- and writing about remote viewing, the illuminati, the globalist bank cartel, the people who kept UFOs under wraps, and the aliens that walk among us.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.
  • From Launchpad@VERT/FUTBBS to Kyler Vanderschee on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 18:05:01
    Just saying hi!

    ---
    ¨ Synchronet ¨ Diamond Mine Online BBS - bbs.dmine.net:24 -
    Fredericksburg, VA USA



    Welcome!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ FUTBBS - FutureBBS - fbbs.rdpstudio.top - http://122.112.172.162:83/
  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Margaerynne on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 19:32:35
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 17 2022 03:57 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Mon May 16 2022 06:47 am

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
    was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of
    households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
    about BBSes.

    That's the most shocking thing to me, as a young'un. Reading BBS literature, seems that, back in the 80s, every teenager had one running in their baseme

    Yet when I find people in that age range -- even the old techies! -- and ask about BBSes, I get a confused look and a "No, we really only just used computers for college."


    Part of that might be regional, seeing as how I'm from the middle part of th country, but I'm still stunned. Even people who can rattle off their old PC specs from memory don't seem to remember BBSes.


    Only one of my friends used BBSs. He was the one that introduced me to them when I was loaned a 386 with a modem. I think another *may* have used them, but it was a niche thing, and this was in the 90's.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MS & RD BBs - bbs.mozysswamp.org
  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 19:38:01
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Boraxman on Tue May 17 2022 06:11 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 18 2022 08:38 am

    For me, it was being part of some underground. You had access to Module Tracker files, the Demoscene, cool ansi, a cyberpunk aesthetic and PeoPl WhO WroTe LiKE tHiS uSInG CrAzy cAPs. That and the wierd obscure stuff y like find, like infamous manifesto's... *cough*.

    And, the conspiracy theories! We all stayed up late BBSing and listening to Bell -- and writing about remote viewing, the illuminati, the globalist bank cartel, the people who kept UFOs under wraps, and the aliens that walk among us.


    We didn't have Art Bell in Australia, but this kind of stuff is what I found on the late 90's internet. Websites about aliens on the moon, weird theories and beliefs of the Heavens Gate cult, Bob Black, the Church of Slack, UFO stuff, prophecies, etc.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ MS & RD BBs - bbs.mozysswamp.org
  • From Margaerynne@VERT/BACKWOOD to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 09:54:12
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Margaerynne on Tue May 17 2022 06:09 pm

    That might be the divider. Were you in a hub back then?

    Hard to get a BBS going when everyone around is either a farmer, a 50-something rocket scientist, or too poor to afford a computer, I guess

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Backwood Realm BBS - bwrbbs.ddns.net - Southern Indiana, USA
  • From Margaerynne@VERT/BACKWOOD to Boraxman on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 09:55:19
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on Wed May 18 2022 07:32 pm

    Where did you live in the 90s?

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Backwood Realm BBS - bwrbbs.ddns.net - Southern Indiana, USA
  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to MRO on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 10:30:26
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Belly on Tue May 17 2022 07:31 pm

    hope you dont have a lot of moisture in your basement.

    No worries about static discharge.

    And things have been running down there for 25 years now.

    This is my third BBS, but my first basement. My first BBS ran on a TRS-80
    Model III with a 300bps modem.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ bbs.brazi.net þ www.brazi.net þ WARNING: May contain nuts
  • From Kevin Driscoll@VERT/CAVEBBS to Margaerynne on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 10:55:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 17 2022 03:57 pm

    Yet when I find people in that age range -- even the old techies! -- and ask about BBSes, I get a confused look and a "No, we really only just used computers for college."

    Totally. Relatively few people owned a PC and even fewer owned a modem. But *if* someone owned a modem, there was a good chance they were getting up on BBSs.

    Part of that might be regional, seeing as how I'm from the middle part of th country, but I'm still stunned. Even people who can rattle off their old PC specs from memory don't seem to remember BBSes.

    I think you're right about the regionalism. If you lived near a big, densely-settled metro, there were going to be a lot more boards in your local calling area. Plus, BBSing seemed to spread through word of mouth. Some folks who would have enjoyed it just never learned that BBSs existed.

    I grew up in central MA where BBSs were fairly plentiful. I learned about
    them from friends at the local (tabletop) gaming shop.

    Kevin

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Belly on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 11:52:04
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Belly to MRO on Wed May 18 2022 10:30 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Belly on Tue May 17 2022 07:31 pm

    hope you dont have a lot of moisture in your basement.

    No worries about static discharge.

    And things have been running down there for 25 years now.

    This is my third BBS, but my first basement. My first BBS ran on a TRS-80 Model III with a 300bps modem.

    I don't mean because of the static i mean because of the moisture.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Denn on Tuesday, May 17, 2022 13:08:05
    Re: Hello
    By: Denn to Boraxman on Sun May 15 2022 09:16 pm

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
    was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
    about BBSes. There were so many BBSes in my area though, and it has
    been sad to see them all pretty muc disappear except for a select few.

    You copied a paragraph I wrote to someone else and pasted it verbatim in your reply to boraxman.. ?

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Boraxman on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 07:05:00
    Boraxman wrote to Margaerynne <=-

    Only one of my friends used BBSs. He was the one that introduced me to them when I was loaned a 386 with a modem. I think another *may* have used them, but it was a niche thing, and this was in the 90's.

    My company ran a 120-node dial-up WAN connecting cash registers to a
    central hub. When they upgraded from 2400 to 9600 baud, they dumped
    the old modem. A dozen or so ended up in my car, and at get-togethers
    we used to give out modems with a floppy disk loaded with COMMO, and
    a dialing directory full of *our* BBSes, with the idea people would
    give them to their friends who didn't know about BBSing.

    We got a couple of people into the scene who got a modem from
    someone, so it seemed to work.



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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to MRO on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 17:21:20
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Belly on Wed May 18 2022 11:52 am

    I don't mean because of the static i mean because of the moisture.

    There's no problem with static because of the... Nevermind. This conversation is pointless.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MARGAERYNNE on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 16:42:00
    That's the most shocking thing to me, as a young'un. Reading BBS literature, i
    seems that, back in the 80s, every teenager had one running in their basement

    Yet when I find people in that age range -- even the old techies! -- and ask about BBSes, I get a confused look and a "No, we really only just used computers for college."

    In the area I lived in at the time (1987-1997), most of the people running full-time BBSes during most of that time would be in their late 70s+ now.
    Most of the people around my age or younger who ran them were either tech geeks, were running on commodores, and/or were running part-time systems
    that didn't stay around long. Big metro area that, during the period circa 1987-1994, probably had 30-40 "big" BBSes running at any one time.

    Where I live now, the BBS phase of online communications sort of got
    skipped. By the time home computers became popular, the internet was available. Many people I know skipped from no online communications, other than at work, to smart phones, skipping the online PC experience all
    together.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Margaerynne on Thursday, May 19, 2022 07:49:05
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to Boraxman on Wed May 18 2022 09:55 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on Wed May 18 2022 07:32 pm

    Where did you live in the 90s?


    Melbourne, Australia. I'm still here.

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  • From Margaerynne@VERT/BACKWOOD to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 20:27:40
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MARGAERYNNE on Wed May 18 2022 04:42 pm

    Where I live now, the BBS phase of online communications sort of got skipped.

    It's honestly sort of a bummer. Maybe things would be better if long-distance communication was on a smaller scale like that, rather than through giant megacorp social networks?

    Granted, the 80s and 90s weren't exactly a time of harmony and understanding either, so that might be a pipe dream.


    Also, there's definitely that selection bias with BBS nostalgia. Most people who are too old to post on the internet are probably not posting on the internet with their experiences.

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  • From Margaerynne@VERT/BACKWOOD to Boraxman on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 20:31:06
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on Thu May 19 2022 07:49 am

    Melbourne, Australia. I'm still here.

    Supporting my last comment, there's something still indescribably cool about having this conversation right now.

    Now I'm realizing I know basically nothing about the development of phone service / early networks in Australia, which might be fun to look into.


    If you don't mind me asking, do you have any particularly fond memories from that time?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Boraxman on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 12:28:58
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on Wed May 18 2022 07:32 pm

    Only one of my friends used BBSs. He was the one that introduced me to them when I was loaned a 386 with a modem. I think another *may* have used them, but it was a niche thing, and this was in the 90's.

    Back then, it seemed that home computers in general were a bit of a niche thing, at least until the mid 90s. But among computer users, I thought BBS usage was a relatively common thing. In the 90s, I knew several people who used BBSes, or at lest knew what they were. Among other things, BBSes were a fairly common way to find new software for your computer. The shareware concept was fairly common back then.

    I was actually surprised when I was takling to a computer-savvy friend of mine in 1994 and I told him I had started running a BBS, and he didn't know what a BBS was.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Kevin Driscoll on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 12:31:47
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Kevin Driscoll to Margaerynne on Wed May 18 2022 10:55 am

    I grew up in central MA where BBSs were fairly plentiful. I learned about them from friends at the local (tabletop) gaming shop.

    There were many BBSes in my area in the 90s too. I had learned about BBSes from family (my dad and older brother both used computers) and got a modem with my first (hand-me-down) computer in 1992.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Belly on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 22:54:03
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Belly to MRO on Wed May 18 2022 05:21 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Belly on Wed May 18 2022 11:52 am

    I don't mean because of the static i mean because of the moisture.

    There's no problem with static because of the... Nevermind. This conversation is pointless.


    MOISTURE. NOT STATIC.

    https://i.imgur.com/ac80acu.png

    ^^^
    moisture no bueno
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  • From Margaerynne@VERT/BACKWOOD to MRO on Thursday, May 19, 2022 01:07:20
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Belly on Wed May 18 2022 10:54 pm

    Not everyone lives in the same climate, you know?

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Margaerynne on Thursday, May 19, 2022 19:13:45
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to Boraxman on Wed May 18 2022 08:31 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on Thu May 19 2022 07:49 am

    Melbourne, Australia. I'm still here.

    Supporting my last comment, there's something still indescribably cool about having this conversation right now.

    Now I'm realizing I know basically nothing about the development of phone service / early networks in Australia, which might be fun to look into.


    If you don't mind me asking, do you have any particularly fond memories from that time?


    If you mean from my experience with BBSs? Or from the mid 90's when I started using them?

    I had an Amstrad PC2386/65 on a table in my room. When I was introduced to BBS's (I was reluctant to try them out because I thought I'd be charged fees!) I was mostly shown the files areas. I do remember chatting, but it was a cool way to get new shareware and freeware games, MOD music, midi's, demos and utilities.

    One memory I had with a BBS, was when I uploaded a freeware game "bananoid" I think it was, and when it came to enter the filename, it just entered "UPLOAD" automatically. Any subsequent time I want to upload, it would automatically put "upload" as the filename and then complain it was taken. I thought I broke the BBS!

    I was at school the next day and it came up in conversation, and I mentioned I was the one who uploaded that file. He joked (I think a joke?) that I broke the BBS. I was worried that I stuffed it up! I logged back on, and I can't remember whether I sent a message or not, but the problem was fixed and it wasn't anything I did.

    It coincided with a pretty good time in my life, so yes many many fond memories.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, May 19, 2022 19:16:45
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on Wed May 18 2022 12:28 pm

    Back then, it seemed that home computers in general were a bit of a niche thing, at least until the mid 90s. But among computer users, I thought BBS usage was a relatively common thing. In the 90s, I knew several people who used BBSes, or at lest knew what they were. Among other things, BBSes were fairly common way to find new software for your computer. The shareware concept was fairly common back then.

    I was actually surprised when I was takling to a computer-savvy friend of mi in 1994 and I told him I had started running a BBS, and he didn't know what BBS was.

    Nightfox

    A few people I knew had home computers. My uncle was a little bit of an enthusiast, he had an expensive PC and a modem, which I later was in possession of. I was 15 when I started using BBS's, so it wasn't a common hobby amongst my peers. Perhaps amongst adults it was more common.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Margaerynne on Thursday, May 19, 2022 12:02:24
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to MRO on Thu May 19 2022 01:07 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Belly on Wed May 18 2022 10:54 pm

    Not everyone lives in the same climate, you know?


    learn to quote
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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to MRO on Thursday, May 19, 2022 11:50:54
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Belly on Wed May 18 2022 10:54 pm

    MOISTURE. NOT STATIC.

    still pointless.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Belly on Thursday, May 19, 2022 14:14:04
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Belly to MRO on Thu May 19 2022 11:50 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Belly on Wed May 18 2022 10:54 pm

    MOISTURE. NOT STATIC.

    still pointless.

    i literally sent you a screenshot about the affects of moisture on computer components.

    "Electronic devices, printed circuit boards, components and data are highly sensitive to humidity levels. Insufficient, excessive and inconsistent humidity levels cause damage and defects in electronic components and pose safety concerns due to electrostatic discharge, de-soldering occurrences and brittle components."

    "Is Humidity Bad for Your Electronics?
    We all know how important it is to keep our electronics away from water. But what about humidity?

    Humidity is the amount of water vapor in the air. Most humans prefer indoor conditions to be between 30% and 50% humidity. This is also the ideal range for electronics.

    In environments where the humidity is higher than 50%, electronics are susceptible to damage.

    What happens to electronics if the humidity is too high?
    If the humidity is too high in a room, it can cause damage to the internal components of the electronics. The biggest thing to look out for is condensation. Condensation forms when warm air comes in contact with a cool surface. When condensation forms within the electrical components, it can cause rust and corrosion to form, which can be damaging to electronics.

    High heat and high humidity are two things that often go hand in hand. While most computers and other electronics have internal fans to help circulate air, they won't work properly if the room temperature is too high. Keeping the air temperature down will not only help the fans to cool the electronics more efficiently, but it will also help keep humidity down as well."


    "The Electronic Industry
    In the electronic industry, printed wirings get corroded due to presence of high humidity. Transistors
    may break down or suffer a decrease in longetivity and the uniform growth of crystals is unachievable.
    "


    this is just some junk anybody can search for.

    not pointless.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MARGAERYNNE on Thursday, May 19, 2022 15:58:00
    Where I live now, the BBS phase of online communications sort of got skipped.

    Granted, the 80s and 90s weren't exactly a time of harmony and understanding either, so that might be a pipe dream.

    Just to clarify, where I live now is more rural (but also the state capital city) than where I came from. Not sure it was a lack of harmony and understanding so much as it was a general lack of need or desire to have a
    PC in the house.


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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to MRO on Thursday, May 19, 2022 19:15:37
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Belly on Thu May 19 2022 02:14 pm

    i literally sent you a screenshot about the affects of moisture on computer components.

    Please remind me of your point, again? I did own an electronics repair shop for almost 20 years.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Thursday, May 19, 2022 07:24:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to MARGAERYNNE <=-

    In the area I lived in at the time (1987-1997), most of the people
    running full-time BBSes during most of that time would be in their late 70s+ now.

    Sysop obituaries are becoming more common in Fidonet. It's a shame,
    one would hope that institutional memory gets captured somewhere.

    It's a shame that the networks are so ephemeral; I hope archive.org
    can find some BBS echomail archives of the 80s and 90s.

    Where I live now, the BBS phase of online communications sort of got skipped. By the time home computers became popular, the internet was available. Many people I know skipped from no online communications, other than at work, to smart phones, skipping the online PC experience
    all together.

    I hadn't thought of that, the early 2000s feel like they were a high
    point for pc-focused communications. Everyone had a blog, and
    LiveJournal was king back then.

    That was just about the time that Danger came out with the Sidekick,
    and you saw the first moblogs. It feels like it's been all mobile
    since then.





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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Belly on Friday, May 20, 2022 17:21:07
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Belly to MRO on Thu May 19 2022 07:15 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Belly on Thu May 19 2022 02:14 pm

    i literally sent you a screenshot about the affects of moisture on computer components.

    Please remind me of your point, again? I did own an electronics repair shop for almost 20 years.


    i don't understand that you don't understand my point. i've repeated myself about 3 times.

    if you don't remember your own posts you can use command keys to go back in synchronet.

    now pay attention:

    you said you have computers in your basement.
    i said be careful for humidity.

    now read that 3 times.

    regarding your owning an electronics repair shop, that means nothing.
    i've been an electronics tech for longer than that.

    i've seen you clowns do horrible things with electronics, and your ignorance towards storage on electronic components cements my stance on you people.

    i've seen total disregard for ESD (not wearing wrist straps, walking around holding components), human oil transfer to components, and utter overall stupidity in the handling of electronics.

    now i know what you're thinking.

    you don't understand my point.

    you said you have computers in your basement.
    i said be careful for humidity.


    you said you have computers in your basement.
    i said be careful for humidity.


    you said you have computers in your basement.
    i said be careful for humidity.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, May 20, 2022 17:22:18
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu May 19 2022 07:24 am

    Dumas Walker wrote to MARGAERYNNE <=-

    In the area I lived in at the time (1987-1997), most of the people running full-time BBSes during most of that time would be in their late 70s+ now.

    Sysop obituaries are becoming more common in Fidonet. It's a shame,
    one would hope that institutional memory gets captured somewhere.



    i used to do sysop obituaries on bbsnews.org but i stopped working on that site.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Moondog on Friday, May 20, 2022 17:54:26
    On 5/9/22 11:36, Moondog wrote:
    I don't want to be the guy, but maybe 91-92 was the golden age, but
    BBS was there before that. 78 could be the start, I guess. A friend
    started his around 83.

    By 91, every area had more than one local BBS, and 2400 baud modems
    could be bought for cheap at the Electronics Boutique in the mall.
    ISP's didn't take over in my area until 96-97. Getting Windows 95
    was the main reason many of our customers chose to upgrade. they
    have been happy with their 386's and 486's with 2400 baud modems,
    and were forced to move to a Pentium and a 14.4k modem

    Even 14.4 was pretty painful once the web started. All I can remember
    is Real Player ("Buffering...") and Windows updates taking hours and
    hours... once I had a friend with a cable modem, I'd just take my
    computer to his place once a month to run updates... even with the teardown/drive/setup/update/teardown/drive/setup it was still way
    faster. Did run a 33.6 for a long while once I could afford it.
    --
    Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to MRO on Friday, May 20, 2022 21:32:48
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Belly on Fri May 20 2022 05:21 pm

    i don't understand that you don't understand my point. i've repeated myself

    if you don't remember your own posts you can use command keys to go back in

    Are you sure I'm the one who doesn't remember posts?

    now pay attention:

    No, you pay attention. I said that I've run servers in that basement for 25 years now. I also store other electronics there, including part of my collection of vintage computers, all of which seem to work just fine when I turn them on.

    Perhaps, if you paid attention instead of posting just to hear your keyboard clack, you would realize that if I were having issues, I might have noticed it by now.

    Feel free to refrain from responding to my posts in the future, because you obviously don't read them first.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:03:39
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu May 19 2022 07:24 am

    I hadn't thought of that, the early 2000s feel like they were a high
    point for pc-focused communications. Everyone had a blog, and
    LiveJournal was king back then.

    That was just about the time that Danger came out with the Sidekick,
    and you saw the first moblogs. It feels like it's been all mobile
    since then.

    The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, back them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
    Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was using that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.

    I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Belly on Friday, May 20, 2022 23:26:02
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Belly to MRO on Fri May 20 2022 09:32 pm

    No, you pay attention. I said that I've run servers in that basement for 25 years now. I also store other electronics there, including part of my collection of vintage computers, all of which seem to work just fine when I turn them on.



    you're dumb

    Feel free to refrain from responding to my posts in the future, because you obviously don't read them first.


    you're still the same idiot from years ago. fuck off.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Saturday, May 21, 2022 13:31:42
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am

    The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, back them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
    Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was using that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.

    I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.


    i used to just msg random people in my area and talk to them. times were more innocent. now the freaks, male and female took over. they're just looking to cheat on their husbands or wives. now people are less friendly and stick in their circles aside from arguing on news posts.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Saturday, May 21, 2022 14:22:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to MARGAERYNNE <=-

    In the area I lived in at the time (1987-1997), most of the people running full-time BBSes during most of that time would be in their late 70s+ now.

    Sysop obituaries are becoming more common in Fidonet. It's a shame,
    one would hope that institutional memory gets captured somewhere.

    The network I was on then was probably as big (or bigger) than Fido is now,
    and the BBS software we were using did not have any built-in FTN
    integration. Most of the networked BBSes where I lived were on that
    network. To have that memory captured would probably rely on me having
    some of it still captured somewhere.

    On this machine, I do appear to have some messages that go back as far as
    1992, but many of them are in sysop-only echos, and one is in a beta test
    echo where we were not supposed to share the information contained within
    with the public. :)

    On an older machine, I bet I have some more.

    It's a shame that the networks are so ephemeral; I hope archive.org
    can find some BBS echomail archives of the 80s and 90s.

    Back then, I would have been on a range of systems from a 30MB to a 240MB storage capacity. I think lots of older messages were probably lost due to message base trimming.

    Where I live now, the BBS phase of online communications sort of got skipped. By the time home computers became popular, the internet was available. Many people I know skipped from no online communications, other than at work, to smart phones, skipping the online PC experience all together.

    I hadn't thought of that, the early 2000s feel like they were a high
    point for pc-focused communications. Everyone had a blog, and
    LiveJournal was king back then.

    That was just about the time that Danger came out with the Sidekick,
    and you saw the first moblogs. It feels like it's been all mobile
    since then.

    Yes. Some of these folks may never have (knowingly) even used a web
    browser. To them, the internet is apps.... facebook, amazon, tik-tok, etc.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Boraxman on Saturday, May 21, 2022 17:44:32
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am

    I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.

    TRILLIAN WAS MY JAM.

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Boraxman on Saturday, May 21, 2022 21:20:52
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am

    them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to

    Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to MRO on Saturday, May 21, 2022 21:22:10
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Belly on Fri May 20 2022 11:26 pm

    you're still the same idiot from years ago. fuck off.

    Thanks for the laugh. When I decide to do that, I'll make sure you're the first to know.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Boraxman on Saturday, May 21, 2022 22:15:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu May 19 2022 07:24 am

    I hadn't thought of that, the early 2000s feel like they were a high
    point for pc-focused communications. Everyone had a blog, and
    LiveJournal was king back then.

    That was just about the time that Danger came out with the Sidekick,
    and you saw the first moblogs. It feels like it's been all mobile
    since then.

    The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, bac them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
    Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was using that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.

    I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.


    I have a cousin that worked at a radio station in the evenings in Olean, NY. Their radio station had a website, and link to a chat room on some service I can't remember. The music was mostly automated, however he would go on the chat and ask folk to select and vote on songs to play. On occasion his
    mother would appear on chat, and she wouldn't say much around strangers. Usua lly it was later in his shift it would get quiet, and they would chat.

    When my uncle retired, he would wake up at 4:30 in the morning like he had
    for most his working life. He would have breakfast, then get on Yahoo games and play Euchre against players in Australia and New Zealand. The early
    2000's was a great time to be on the internet. I originally got into BBS' in 1991 after i bought a 2400 baud internal modem for $65 at Electronics
    Boutique (they later became part of EB Games.) I used Procomm Plus, and in
    the early to mid 90's there were several BBS's in my area. They all
    connected to Fido-net for mail, and usually around midnight the board would
    be inaccessible due to it sending and receiving mail with whatever acted as their central mail server. My buddy gave me sysop access, but I never used
    it. I did have the ability to monitor mail and private message threads. We h ad quite a few gamers on the board, and some were either the kids or younger brothers and sisters of other members. We had to keep an eye out for sexual predators and there was a teenage girl that liked to flirt and talk dirty
    with other users. At first I chalked it off to some old dude pretending
    he's a 14 year old, but later I heard she was real and was stalking a
    friend's younger brother that was 15 or 16. My friend's family lived next
    door to the sysop, and they had a coax ethernet cable between both houses to play games. By 1996, the BBS's began to sign off, and the sysops were now creating their own web sites. Only a few registered a domain. Most were hosted by their ISP of choice or AOL, or Geocities.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Saturday, May 21, 2022 22:17:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Boraxman on Sat May 21 2022 01:31 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am

    The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, back them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversatio That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that. Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was us that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.

    I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.


    i used to just msg random people in my area and talk to them. times were mor rom arguing on news posts.

    It used to be exciting to be talking to people from all over the world. My guess is it has become such a casual thing, people are not as polite as they used to be. Poorly moderated chat areas had the worst people.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TRACKER1 on Sunday, May 22, 2022 10:24:00
    Even 14.4 was pretty painful once the web started. All I can remember
    is Real Player ("Buffering...") and Windows updates taking hours and

    When I was on a modem connection to the internet, I used to avoid trying to watch videos. Since for a lot of that time I was using a DOS machine and
    the Arachne browser, I couldn't play them anyway, but I still avoided them
    when I upgraded to linux.

    Meanwhile, I had a close relative in a similar situation that would always complain about the video lag and ask me to try to fix it. I told them the
    only way to fix it was to upgrade to a non-dial-up provider which, in their area, was cable.

    By the time they did that, their machine and Windows version were not new enough to handle what the video players were playing. :)


    * SLMR 2.1a * STICK \'stik\ n. 1: A somewhat nonfunctional boomerang.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BELLY on Sunday, May 22, 2022 10:43:00
    No, you pay attention. I said that I've run servers in that basement for 25 years now. I also store other electronics there, including part of my collection of vintage computers, all of which seem to work just fine when I turn them on.

    Which begs the question, how do you keep the humidity/moisture levels in
    check? Basements around my part of the country usually require some
    planning to accomplish that.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Why do we have training bras? What can we teach them?

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to MRO on Sunday, May 22, 2022 21:50:00
    MRO wrote to Boraxman <=-

    @MSGID: <6289300E.9385.dove-gen@bbses.info>
    @REPLY: <62883A6B.56206.dove-gen@bbs.mozysswamp.org>
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am

    The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, back them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
    Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was using that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.

    I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.


    i used to just msg random people in my area and talk to them. times
    were more innocent. now the freaks, male and female took over. they're just looking to cheat on their husbands or wives. now people are less friendly and stick in their circles aside from arguing on news posts.

    I had a random person or two message me, and that started up some interesting conversations. A couple of them I continued to chat with for months afterwards, perhaps longer. One was a teenager who was into System of a Down, and had his own band, another a smart guy into philosophy.

    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Belly on Sunday, May 22, 2022 21:52:00
    Belly wrote to Boraxman <=-

    @MSGID: <62899E04.37884.dovegen@brazi.net>
    @REPLY: <62883A6B.56206.dove-gen@bbs.mozysswamp.org>
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN
    on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am

    them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to

    Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.

    Yes, I do have a Discord account. I don't mind it, though the default client is heavy, and the pidgin plugin lacking a little. The problem is, other people I knew, friends, family were also on MSN back in the day. They aren't on Discord.

    Discord has been got to arrange some Quake and Quake 2 multiplayer games.

    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Moondog on Sunday, May 22, 2022 22:00:00
    Moondog wrote to Boraxman <=-

    @MSGID: <62899CB8.78429.dove-gen@cavebbs.homeip.net>
    @REPLY: <62883A6B.56206.dove-gen@bbs.mozysswamp.org>
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN
    on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu May 19 2022 07:24 am

    I hadn't thought of that, the early 2000s feel like they were a high
    point for pc-focused communications. Everyone had a blog, and
    LiveJournal was king back then.

    That was just about the time that Danger came out with the Sidekick,
    and you saw the first moblogs. It feels like it's been all mobile
    since then.

    The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, bac them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
    Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was using that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.

    I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.


    I have a cousin that worked at a radio station in the evenings in
    Olean, NY. Their radio station had a website, and link to a chat room
    on some service I can't remember. The music was mostly automated,
    however he would go on the chat and ask folk to select and vote on
    songs to play. On occasion his mother would appear on chat, and she wouldn't say much around strangers. Usua lly it was later in his shift
    it would get quiet, and they would chat.

    When my uncle retired, he would wake up at 4:30 in the morning like he
    had for most his working life. He would have breakfast, then get on
    Yahoo games and play Euchre against players in Australia and New
    Zealand. The early 2000's was a great time to be on the internet. I originally got into BBS' in 1991 after i bought a 2400 baud internal
    modem for $65 at Electronics Boutique (they later became part of EB Games.) I used Procomm Plus, and in the early to mid 90's there were several BBS's in my area. They all connected to Fido-net for mail, and usually around midnight the board would be inaccessible due to it
    sending and receiving mail with whatever acted as their central mail server. My buddy gave me sysop access, but I never used it. I did
    have the ability to monitor mail and private message threads. We h ad quite a few gamers on the board, and some were either the kids or
    younger brothers and sisters of other members. We had to keep an eye
    out for sexual predators and there was a teenage girl that liked to
    flirt and talk dirty with other users. At first I chalked it off to
    some old dude pretending he's a 14 year old, but later I heard she was real and was stalking a friend's younger brother that was 15 or 16. My friend's family lived next door to the sysop, and they had a coax
    ethernet cable between both houses to play games. By 1996, the BBS's began to sign off, and the sysops were now creating their own web
    sites. Only a few registered a domain. Most were hosted by their ISP
    of choice or AOL, or Geocities.
    ---

    I like how you had the coax between the two houses. I considered running a network cable from my house to a friends house, but he lived a block away, and I'd have to run nearly 100m of cable over the roofs of shops and over the street. We seriously considered it, but didn't have the length of cable necessary (it probably would have needed a repeater in between), and having the cable cross the road (it was a busy road) would have been surely in violation of local laws.


    ... Got my tie caught in the fax... Suddenly I was in L.A.
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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Dumas Walker on Sunday, May 22, 2022 12:59:31
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to BELLY on Sun May 22 2022 10:43 am

    Which begs the question, how do you keep the humidity/moisture levels in check? Basements around my part of the country usually require some planning to accomplish that.

    Oh, that's easy. I run a dehumidifier down there, which keeps it at about
    60% relative, about the same as the main house.. Which sounds high, until you consider that outdoors, here, the relative humidity is currently 93%.


    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Boraxman on Sunday, May 22, 2022 13:09:03
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Belly on Sun May 22 2022 09:52 pm

    Yes, I do have a Discord account. I don't mind it, though the default clien is heavy, and the pidgin plugin lacking a little. The problem is, other peo I knew, friends, family were also on MSN back in the day. They aren't on Discord.

    A couple of years back, I started a Discord server and invited all of the gang that I used to BBS with back during the last century, and then expanded it to the old members of the Facebook group a decade ago, before I decided to wise up and run far away from FB. It's pretty active, and much easier to operate than
    a BBS, on a mobile device, for sure.

    Discord has been got to arrange some Quake and Quake 2 multiplayer games.

    It's definitely great for that... Voice chat, screen sharing, etc. I need to play Q/Q2/Q3 again. It's been ages!

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From Margaerynne@VERT/BACKWOOD to MRO on Sunday, May 22, 2022 16:00:26
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Boraxman on Sat May 21 2022 01:31 pm

    now people are less friendly and stick in
    their circles aside from arguing on news posts.

    It's honestly pretty rough, isn't it?
    Guess some things don't change, though. People like yelling at each other over the internet too much?

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  • From Margaerynne@VERT/BACKWOOD to Moondog on Sunday, May 22, 2022 16:02:58
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sat May 21 2022 10:17 pm

    It used to be exciting to be talking to people from all over the world. My guess is it has become such a casual thing, people are not as polite as they used to be.

    Funnily enough, I was just thinking that about old emails from the 90s.

    Nowadays, everyone is a little suspicious of what they write. Back then, it seems people would just toss whatever the hell onto a company email server and forget about it.

    If you're ever bored, the Enron corpus is all publicly out there, and enjoyably eye-opening!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Sunday, May 22, 2022 16:42:20
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sat May 21 2022 10:17 pm


    i used to just msg random people in my area and talk to them. times were mor rom arguing on news posts.

    It used to be exciting to be talking to people from all over the world. My guess is it has become such a casual thing, people are not as polite as they used to be. Poorly moderated chat areas had the worst people.


    yeah we dont do that anymore and i think we suffer because of it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Margaerynne on Sunday, May 22, 2022 16:44:50
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to MRO on Sun May 22 2022 04:00 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Boraxman on Sat May 21 2022 01:31 pm

    now people are less friendly and stick in
    their circles aside from arguing on news posts.

    It's honestly pretty rough, isn't it?
    Guess some things don't change, though. People like yelling at each other over the internet too much?


    animals are hard wired to stick to their own kind. with our big brains we just rationalize it and expand it.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Belly on Sunday, May 22, 2022 17:52:26
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Belly to Boraxman on Sat May 21 2022 09:20 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am

    them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. T doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks

    Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy


    I doubt boraxman aproves of Discord :-)

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a server of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.

    Not to mention Discord rapes RAM brutally when compared to nearly any similar solution.

    If I wanted to use a behemoth of a chat system I'd rather use Jitsi Meet. I am not too fond of that one either.

    --
    gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken

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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to Belly on Sunday, May 22, 2022 19:49:06
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Belly to MRO on Wed May 18 2022 05:21 pm

    There's no problem with static because of the... Nevermind. This conversation is pointless.

    If you're really up for a good time, ask him about using compressed air on computers.


    - Andre

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Sunday, May 22, 2022 19:45:40
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Belly on Sun May 22 2022 05:52 pm

    Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a server

    I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Belly on Monday, May 23, 2022 09:08:23
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Belly to Boraxman on Sun May 22 2022 01:09 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Belly on Sun May 22 2022 09:52 pm

    Yes, I do have a Discord account. I don't mind it, though the default cl is heavy, and the pidgin plugin lacking a little. The problem is, other I knew, friends, family were also on MSN back in the day. They aren't on Discord.

    A couple of years back, I started a Discord server and invited all of the ga that I used to BBS with back during the last century, and then expanded it t the old members of the Facebook group a decade ago, before I decided to wise and run far away from FB. It's pretty active, and much easier to operate tha a BBS, on a mobile device, for sure.

    Discord has been got to arrange some Quake and Quake 2 multiplayer games.

    It's definitely great for that... Voice chat, screen sharing, etc. I need to play Q/Q2/Q3 again. It's been ages!

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy


    I maintain a QuakeWorld and Quake 2 servers, though they sit idle almost all the time. You can get someone to jump on if there are already two players on there. So on occasion when I and my daughter have joined in just to muck around, we've been interrupted by someone jumping in.

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  • From Margaerynne@VERT/BACKWOOD to Arelor on Monday, May 23, 2022 00:43:09
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Belly on Sun May 22 2022 05:52 pm

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a server of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.

    The worst part is that you can be banned/removed for violating rules that weren't in place at the time.

    Yet another reason to self-host anything important, and make frequent backups.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Boraxman on Monday, May 23, 2022 00:05:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Moondog on Sun May 22 2022 10:00 pm

    Moondog wrote to Boraxman <=-

    @MSGID: <62899CB8.78429.dove-gen@cavebbs.homeip.net>
    @REPLY: <62883A6B.56206.dove-gen@bbs.mozysswamp.org>
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN
    on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu May 19 2022 07:24 am

    I hadn't thought of that, the early 2000s feel like they were a high
    point for pc-focused communications. Everyone had a blog, and
    LiveJournal was king back then.

    That was just about the time that Danger came out with the Sidekick,
    and you saw the first moblogs. It feels like it's been all mobile
    since then.

    The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. T doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
    Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was us that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.

    I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.


    I have a cousin that worked at a radio station in the evenings in Olean, NY. Their radio station had a website, and link to a chat room on some service I can't remember. The music was mostly automated, however he would go on the chat and ask folk to select and vote on songs to play. On occasion his mother would appear on chat, and she wouldn't say much around strangers. Usua lly it was later in his shift it would get quiet, and they would chat.

    When my uncle retired, he would wake up at 4:30 in the morning like he had for most his working life. He would have breakfast, then get on Yahoo games and play Euchre against players in Australia and New Zealand. The early 2000's was a great time to be on the internet. I originally got into BBS' in 1991 after i bought a 2400 baud internal modem for $65 at Electronics Boutique (they later became part of EB Games.) I used Procomm Plus, and in the early to mid 90's there were several BBS's in my area. They all connected to Fido-net for mail, and usually around midnight the board would be inaccessible due to it sending and receiving mail with whatever acted as their central mail server. My buddy gave me sysop access, but I never used it. I did have the ability to monitor mail and private message threads. We h ad quite a few gamers on the board, and some were either the kids or younger brothers and sisters of other members. We had to keep an eye out for sexual predators and there was a teenage girl that liked to flirt and talk dirty with other users. At first I chalked it off to some old dude pretending he's a 14 year old, but later I heard she was real and was stalking a friend's younger brother that was 15 or 16. My friend's family lived next door to the sysop, and they had a coax ethernet cable between both houses to play games. By 1996, the BBS's began to sign off, and the sysops were now creating their own web sites. Only a few registered a domain. Most were hosted by their ISP of choice or AOL, or Geocities.
    ---

    I like how you had the coax between the two houses. I considered running a network cable from my house to a friends house, but he lived a block away, a I'd have to run nearly 100m of cable over the roofs of shops and over the street. We seriously considered it, but didn't have the length of cable necessary (it probably would have needed a repeater in between), and having cable cross the road (it was a busy road) would have been surely in violatio of local laws.


    ... Got my tie caught in the fax... Suddenly I was in L.A.

    The distance between houses was about 50-75 feet.

    ---
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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Arelor on Monday, May 23, 2022 19:33:44
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Belly on Sun May 22 2022 05:52 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Belly to Boraxman on Sat May 21 2022 09:20 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am

    them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it suc

    Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy


    I doubt boraxman aproves of Discord :-)

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a server of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.

    Not to mention Discord rapes RAM brutally when compared to nearly any simila solution.

    If I wanted to use a behemoth of a chat system I'd rather use Jitsi Meet. I not too fond of that one either.

    --
    gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken


    You are indeed right, I'm not fond of bloated proprietary chat systems which are still centrally controlled. MSN was, but at least the client was relatively light.

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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, May 23, 2022 05:18:53
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Sun May 22 2022 07:45 pm

    I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.

    Video chat, voice chat, safe embedded images, proper authentication security, game streaming, and so on and so on.

    IRC is an extremely basic chatroom, and it barely even functions as that.


    - Andre

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, May 23, 2022 07:46:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Arelor <=-

    Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a server

    I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.

    The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Andre on Monday, May 23, 2022 06:24:00
    Andre wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Video chat, voice chat, safe embedded images, proper authentication security, game streaming, and so on and so on.

    IRC is an extremely basic chatroom, and it barely even functions as
    that.

    I suppose the problem is that I don't need much more than IRC. your
    mileage may vary.

    https://xkcd.com/1782/



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Boraxman on Monday, May 23, 2022 06:26:00
    Boraxman wrote to Belly <=-

    I maintain a QuakeWorld and Quake 2 servers, though they sit idle
    almost all the time. You can get someone to jump on if there are
    already two players on there.

    I load up my Quake2 server client every once in a while to see if a
    server I played RELIGIOUSLY from 1997-1999 is still up.

    I think it's called Tastyspleen:city1. If anyone here jumps on it, let me
    know!




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Margaerynne on Monday, May 23, 2022 06:30:00
    Margaerynne wrote to Arelor <=-

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a server of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.

    "How can we say we're federated, but not be federated?"

    Yet another reason to self-host anything important, and make frequent backups.

    Amen. You don't own the cloud.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Monday, May 23, 2022 11:41:17
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Arelor on Mon May 23 2022 07:33 pm

    server of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.

    Not to mention Discord rapes RAM brutally when compared to nearly any simila solution.

    If I wanted to use a behemoth of a chat system I'd rather use Jitsi Meet. I not too fond of that one either.

    --


    i'm looking at task msgr now

    discord is doing nothing and using 150mb of ram.
    hex chat is doing nothing and connected to several servers and using 7mb
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, May 23, 2022 13:39:57
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Sun May 22 2022 07:45 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Belly on Sun May 22 2022 05:52 pm

    Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosyste to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a serv

    I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.


    IRC does what I need it to do, but IRC does not attempt to be Discord and Discord does not attempt to be IRC.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Margaerynne on Monday, May 23, 2022 13:42:44
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to Arelor on Mon May 23 2022 12:43 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Belly on Sun May 22 2022 05:52 pm

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosyst to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a ser of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.

    The worst part is that you can be banned/removed for violating rules that weren't in place at the time.

    Yet another reason to self-host anything important, and make frequent backup


    I have heard that people developing bots and such are regularly hit by this sort of issue. There was a nice article regarding why developing Discord tools was suicidal. The summary was that you start deploying solutions that only work on a platform that may kick you out with no recourse, voiding all your work (similar as to how Patreons, OnlyFans and Youtubes of this world go).


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Gamgee on Monday, May 23, 2022 13:49:43
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon May 23 2022 07:46 am

    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Arelor <=-

    Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosyst to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a ser

    I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.

    The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)


    I am sure there is a lot of that :-)

    I use IRC most of the time to stay in touch with friends and talk about tech stuff in certain tech channels. There are tasks for which text only does not cut it, or does not work as well as a platform with multimedia capabilities.

    For example, I invited my friends from the US to my birthday virtual party and we had a blast playing boardgames online. Voice chat made it possible to discuss plays and explain how the games worked in a more agile way than text chat. Text chat could have done it, but it would have been a bit worse.

    Roleplaying games are another example. You can run roleplaying games over text only chat with some bot for rolling the dice. The medium is a bit too slow so action sequences lose momentum. A voice chat application in which you can integrate a dice bot works better.

    Mumble works very well for those scenarios.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BELLY on Monday, May 23, 2022 17:57:00
    Oh, that's easy. I run a dehumidifier down there, which keeps it at about
    60% relative, about the same as the main house.. Which sounds high, until you consider that outdoors, here, the relative humidity is currently 93%.

    Ick. 93% makes 60% sound great. :)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Monday, May 23, 2022 18:02:00
    I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.

    The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)

    This.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Monday, May 23, 2022 15:37:27
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to BELLY on Sun May 22 2022 10:43 am

    Which begs the question, how do you keep the humidity/moisture levels in check? Basements around my part of the country usually require some planning to accomplish that.

    A de-humidifier might work. I've even seen some air conditioners that just have a de-humidify mode.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Margaerynne on Monday, May 23, 2022 15:39:31
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to MRO on Sun May 22 2022 04:00 pm

    It's honestly pretty rough, isn't it?
    Guess some things don't change, though. People like yelling at each other over the internet too much?

    And on BBS message networks too..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, May 23, 2022 15:42:16
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Sun May 22 2022 07:45 pm

    Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the
    ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is
    actually not a server

    I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.

    I haven't used Discord a whole lot, but one thing about Discord is that you can see all of the conversation history even if you log out and log back in again. With IRC, you won't be able to see any of the conversation you missed while you were not connected.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Andre on Monday, May 23, 2022 15:43:41
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Andre to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon May 23 2022 05:18 am

    IRC is an extremely basic chatroom, and it barely even functions as that.

    What do you mean when you say IRC barely even functions as that?

    Nightfox

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Margaerynne on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 07:50:06
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to Arelor on Mon May 23 2022 12:43 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Belly on Sun May 22 2022 05:52 pm

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosyst to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a ser of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.

    The worst part is that you can be banned/removed for violating rules that weren't in place at the time.

    Yet another reason to self-host anything important, and make frequent backup


    My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".

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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to Nightfox on Monday, May 23, 2022 19:02:44
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Andre on Mon May 23 2022 03:43 pm

    What do you mean when you say IRC barely even functions as that?

    Significant learning curve, error-prone authentication methods, generally lacking with security features for its users, lack of history, etc.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, May 23, 2022 21:19:14
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Mon May 23 2022 03:37 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to BELLY on Sun May 22 2022 10:43 am

    Which begs the question, how do you keep the humidity/moisture levels in check? Basements around my part of the country usually require some planning to accomplish that.

    A de-humidifier might work. I've even seen some air conditioners that just have a de-humidify mode.


    HEY GUISE! HE'S BEEN DOING IT 20 YEARS WITH NO PROBLEMS!

    20 WHOLE YEARS. NO PROBLEMS.

    HE DOESN'T GET YOUR POINT.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, May 23, 2022 21:19:59
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Margaerynne on Mon May 23 2022 03:39 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to MRO on Sun May 22 2022 04:00 pm

    It's honestly pretty rough, isn't it?
    Guess some things don't change, though. People like yelling at each other over the internet too much?

    And on BBS message networks too..


    What sucks is i only have like 6 people to yell at on bbses, on fb i have like 6 million!
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, May 23, 2022 21:20:36
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon May 23 2022 03:42 pm


    I haven't used Discord a whole lot, but one thing about Discord is that you can see all of the conversation history even if you log out and log back in again. With IRC, you won't be able to see any of the conversation you missed while you were not connected.


    i guess you havent used irc much either because i've been using znc for a loooong time
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Monday, May 23, 2022 21:21:39
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on Tue May 24 2022 07:50 am

    Re: Re: Hello


    My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".

    just dont trust jewish tech people, or people with ties to them.
    that seems to be the road to evil.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Arelor on Monday, May 23, 2022 21:16:00
    Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosyst to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a ser

    I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.

    The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)

    I am sure there is a lot of that :-)

    I use IRC most of the time to stay in touch with friends and talk
    about tech stuff in certain tech channels. There are tasks for
    which text only does not cut it, or does not work as well as a
    platform with multimedia capabilities.

    I use IRC a lot too, but I do realize that what you say is true.
    Sometimes, a multimedia platform is better, for some people.

    For example, I invited my friends from the US to my birthday
    virtual party and we had a blast playing boardgames online. Voice
    chat made it possible to discuss plays and explain how the games
    worked in a more agile way than text chat. Text chat could have
    done it, but it would have been a bit worse.

    Yep, I can see that. Text is too slow for some things, no doubt.

    Roleplaying games are another example. You can run roleplaying
    games over text only chat with some bot for rolling the dice. The
    medium is a bit too slow so action sequences lose momentum. A
    voice chat application in which you can integrate a dice bot
    works better.

    Mumble works very well for those scenarios.

    I'm sure it does. I will just say that I'm happy with what IRC does for
    me, and really don't need any of those other things.

    This conversation strikes me as a metaphor for what happened to BBS's,
    about 25 years ago. A mostly text medium got replaced with a fancy new graphical thing, called the WWW. ;-)



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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Dumas Walker on Monday, May 23, 2022 21:38:19
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Mon May 23 2022 06:02 pm

    The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)

    This.

    Hey, *I* need pretty pictures and video. If that makes me a kid, then *added bonus* :)

    Discord might not be for everyone, but it works for me. The 170MB it's using right now is a drop in the pond, compared to the total memory footprint of everything running on my desktop right now.

    Discord was wonderful during 2020 for keeping in touch with core friends and family.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 10:15:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Boraxman <=-

    @MSGID: <628B9BB8.51435.dove.dove-gen@realitycheckbbs.org>
    @REPLY: <628AC267.56249.dove-gen@bbs.mozysswamp.org>
    Boraxman wrote to Belly <=-

    I maintain a QuakeWorld and Quake 2 servers, though they sit idle
    almost all the time. You can get someone to jump on if there are
    already two players on there.

    I load up my Quake2 server client every once in a while to see if a
    server I played RELIGIOUSLY from 1997-1999 is still up.

    I think it's called Tastyspleen:city1. If anyone here jumps on it, let
    me
    know!

    Tastyspleen is still going! I did jump on it on weekends, but now not so much.
    I might hop back on.

    I'm known as "borax man" there too. Its the only Quake 2 server with regular players, but as I'm in Australia, the ping times put me at a distinct disadvantage.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to MRO on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 10:19:00
    MRO wrote to Boraxman <=-

    @MSGID: <628BB92D.9409.dove-gen@bbses.info>
    @REPLY: <628B54F8.56260.dove-gen@bbs.mozysswamp.org>
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Arelor on Mon May 23 2022 07:33 pm

    server of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.

    Not to mention Discord rapes RAM brutally when compared to nearly any simila solution.

    If I wanted to use a behemoth of a chat system I'd rather use Jitsi Meet. I not too fond of that one either.

    --


    i'm looking at task msgr now

    discord is doing nothing and using 150mb of ram.
    hex chat is doing nothing and connected to several servers and using
    7mb ---

    I'm surprised Discord is that low. I'll check my usage, but I was sure it was higher, but that was when it was in use. It does take a while to load, though my system is "slow" by todays standards.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Andre on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 10:55:00
    Andre wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    @MSGID: <628B5F8D.8173.dove-general@bbs.radiomentor.org>
    @REPLY: <628AF554.51425.dove.dove-gen@realitycheckbbs.org>
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor
    on Sun May 22 2022 07:45 pm

    I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.

    Video chat, voice chat, safe embedded images, proper authentication security, game streaming, and so on and so on.

    IRC is an extremely basic chatroom, and it barely even functions as
    that.

    The problem is that if you throw in all that stuff into a chat service, it complicates all the clients. Now you don't have a simple chat which is easy to implement.

    You can use a simply Discord client, but then people will expect you to see the animated GIFs, images, video chat.

    "All on one" solutions generally suffer from this problem. There is merit to the "do one thing, and do it well" philosophy.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Nightfox on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 11:01:00
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    @MSGID: <628C0DC8.65606.dove_dove-gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
    @REPLY: <628AF554.51425.dove.dove-gen@realitycheckbbs.org>
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor
    on Sun May 22 2022 07:45 pm

    Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the
    ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is
    actually not a server

    I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.

    I haven't used Discord a whole lot, but one thing about Discord is that you can see all of the conversation history even if you log out and log back in again. With IRC, you won't be able to see any of the
    conversation you missed while you were not connected.

    That is both a nice, and annoying feature. Discord gives you this long backlog which makes you feel like you've missed out on a lot, but in actually, I rarely need to know what was discussed when I'm not there.

    It is for chat, so not having the entire history is generally not a problem.


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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBS to MRO on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 11:15:00

    ---MRO Said:

    just dont trust jewish tech people, or people with ties to them.
    that seems to be the road to evil.

    I'm sure I'm going to regret this. Why should you not trust Jewish
    tech people?


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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to the doctor on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 07:02:05
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: the doctor to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 11:15 am

    I'm sure I'm going to regret this. Why should you not trust Jewish
    tech people?

    It's not much better the the dipshit comment he was responding to.


    - Andre

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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBS to ANDRE on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 14:28:00

    --- ANDRE wrote --- Re: Re: Hello By: the
    doctor to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 11:15 am

    It's not much better the the dipshit comment he was responding to.

    True.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 08:21:53
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon May 23 2022 09:20 pm

    I haven't used Discord a whole lot, but one thing about Discord is
    that you can see all of the conversation history even if you log out
    and log back in again. With IRC, you won't be able to see any of the
    conversation you missed while you were not connected.

    i guess you havent used irc much either because i've been using znc for a loooong time

    I've been using IRC since 1995. I used to use IRC quite a bit but dropped off in the mid 2000s and haven't really used IRC a whole lot since then.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 08:31:41
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Mon May 23 2022 06:02 pm

    The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)

    This.

    But what about that?

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Boraxman on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 08:32:12
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on Tue May 24 2022 07:50 am

    My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".

    Californians are Americans.. ;)

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 12:37:07
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 10:19 am


    I'm surprised Discord is that low. I'll check my usage, but I was sure it was higher, but that was when it was in use. It does take a while to load, though my system is "slow" by todays standards.


    now it's 37mb but i just rebooted.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to the doctor on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 12:38:07
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: the doctor to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 11:15 am


    ---MRO Said:

    just dont trust jewish tech people, or people with ties to them.
    that seems to be the road to evil.

    I'm sure I'm going to regret this. Why should you not trust Jewish
    tech people?

    that's a stupid question.
    just look at whats happened in the last decade.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 12:38:53
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 08:21 am


    i guess you havent used irc much either because i've been using znc for a loooong time

    I've been using IRC since 1995. I used to use IRC quite a bit but dropped off in the mid 2000s and haven't really used IRC a whole lot since then.


    but you dont know that most people use a bnc or znc so they have scrollback and other features?
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 12:46:00
    Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-

    My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".

    Californians are Americans.. ;)

    There are some who may question that statement... ;-)



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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBS to MRO on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 20:41:00

    --MRO said:
    just dont trust jewish tech people, or people with ties to them.
    that seems to be the road to evil.

    I'm sure I'm going to regret this. Why should you not trust Jewish
    tech people?

    that's a stupid question.
    just look at whats happened in the last decade.

    Maybe this is my fault, as I think I must have missed some of the conversation.

    As a former member of the International Jewish Conspiracy, and a computer technician, etc., for many many years... I'm just wondering how the news
    is leaking out.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to the doctor on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 15:33:16
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: the doctor to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 08:41 pm


    Maybe this is my fault, as I think I must have missed some of the conversation.

    As a former member of the International Jewish Conspiracy, and a computer technician, etc., for many many years... I'm just wondering how the news
    is leaking out.


    no you apparently have been living under a rock.
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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to Nightfox on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 17:06:06
    Californians are Americans.. ;)


    Unfortunately this is true, and they've been escaping lately.


    - Andre

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BELLY on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 17:21:00
    The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)

    This.

    Discord was wonderful during 2020 for keeping in touch with core friends and family.

    My comment wasn't directed at Discord in particular, but the general trend
    away from easier to use and/or text based tech in favor of tech that can
    also be more invasive.

    I have never tried Discord myself, so I cannot say with any confidence that
    it is not useful. Sounds like it certainly was for you.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Monday is a hard way to spend 1/7 of your life.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 17:22:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Mon May 23 2022 06:02 pm

    The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)

    This.

    But what about that?

    That means that any text-only tech, even if upgraded to current security standards, is not going to catch on among most social media users.


    * SLMR 2.1a * sophisticated, adj. deprived of its native simplicity.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 16:48:52
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Tue May 24 2022 05:22 pm

    The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)

    This.

    But what about that?

    That means that any text-only tech, even if upgraded to current security standards, is not going to catch on among most social media users.

    You may have missed the joke. You replied with just "this", so I was asking about "that". :P

    Nightfox

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Nightfox on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 09:08:00
    Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-

    @MSGID: <628CFA7C.65630.dove_dove-gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
    @REPLY: <628C018E.56271.dove-gen@bbs.mozysswamp.org>
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on
    Tue May 24 2022 07:50 am

    My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".

    Californians are Americans.. ;)

    I know, but Californians seem especially crazy, so they get special mention.


    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBS to MRO on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 09:46:00

    --- MRO wrote --- Re: Re: Hello By: the doctor to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 08:41
    pm

    no you apparently have been living under a rock.

    Fine. Don't answer.


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  • From Margaerynne@VERT/BACKWOOD to Arelor on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 09:09:25
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Margaerynne on Mon May 23 2022 01:42 pm

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Belly on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 06:54:00
    Belly wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Discord might not be for everyone, but it works for me. The 170MB it's using right now is a drop in the pond, compared to the total memory footprint of everything running on my desktop right now.

    "Why when I was a young sysadmin, we ran NNTP, IMAP, SMTP, LDAP and IRC
    in less memory than that! Flibbedyfloo!"



    ... Abandon desire
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Boraxman on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 06:58:00
    Boraxman wrote to Andre <=-

    You can use a simply Discord client, but then people will expect you to see the animated GIFs, images, video chat.

    Sort of like those Fidonet to Signal gates. Meme posts in Signal end
    up as a URL to an image, which doesn't carry well to a BBS terminal
    session.

    "All on one" solutions generally suffer from this problem. There is
    merit to the "do one thing, and do it well" philosophy.

    Agreed. The only effective "swiss army knife" that I've experienced
    was Netscape Communicator, which, back in 2000, was an effective web
    browser, mail, IRC and news client.

    I like to run a lean environment on the BBS, and loaded Mozilla
    Seamonkey on it; Seamonkey is a continuation of Communicator, and
    it's still a decent multi-tool - and it saves me from running a
    separate email client and IRC client on the BBS box.



    ... UNPRISON YOUR THINK RHINO
    --- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to the doctor on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 13:15:04
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: the doctor to MRO on Wed May 25 2022 09:46 am


    --- MRO wrote --- Re: Re: Hello By: the doctor to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 08:41
    pm

    no you apparently have been living under a rock.

    Fine. Don't answer.

    no, i'm not going to answer when you throw out the word conspiracy.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 13:34:13
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Boraxman on Tue May 24 2022 06:58 am


    I like to run a lean environment on the BBS, and loaded Mozilla
    Seamonkey on it; Seamonkey is a continuation of Communicator, and
    it's still a decent multi-tool - and it saves me from running a
    separate email client and IRC client on the BBS box.


    they've always been mediocre tools. it's okay for when you don't care about running decent software.

    i'm trying chatzilla for the first time on ssl and it wont fetch my ssl cert so that's pretty pathetic. i have a self signed cert. also every time i click to check the cert the actual window grows larger and larger. that's a weird feature.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 17:32:00
    This.

    But what about that?

    That means that any text-only tech, even if upgraded to current security standards, is not going to catch on among most social media users.

    You may have missed the joke. You replied with just "this", so I was asking a
    ut "that". :P

    LOL, sort of like who's on first? :) Yes, I missed it.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Op'ti-mism n. 1. A Yugo with a trailer hitch

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDRE on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 17:51:00
    Californians are Americans.. ;)


    Unfortunately this is true, and they've been escaping lately.

    Most recently, to Portugal, where the natives are getting tired of their Californicating up everything.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Photons have mass? I didn't know they were Catholic...

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to THE DOCTOR on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 17:52:00
    Maybe this is my fault, as I think I must have missed some of the conversation

    As a former member of the International Jewish Conspiracy, and a computer technician, etc., for many many years... I'm just wondering how the news
    is leaking out.

    I am assuming he means the guy who runs Facebook but I am not sure.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again!

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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 18:56:57
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to ANDRE on Wed May 25 2022 05:51 pm

    Most recently, to Portugal, where the natives are getting tired of their Californicating up everything.

    I read that recently too. And then was told a couple days later that my friend was buying a vacation home in Portugal for his daughter (who lives in Germany).

    Like, I'm not sure they want you there.


    - Andre

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 23:26:35
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to THE DOCTOR on Wed May 25 2022 05:52 pm

    Maybe this is my fault, as I think I must have missed some of the conversation

    As a former member of the International Jewish Conspiracy, and a computer technician, etc., for many many years... I'm just wondering how the news is leaking out.

    I am assuming he means the guy who runs Facebook but I am not sure.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again!

    that's one of many, but don't baby this guy. he knows.
    or he's a total ignorant moron.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:09:55
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon May 23 2022 03:42 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Sun May 22 2022 07:45 pm

    Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.

    I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the
    ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is
    actually not a server

    I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.

    I haven't used Discord a whole lot, but one thing about Discord is that you can see all of the conversation history even if you log out and log back in again. With IRC, you won't be able to
    see any of the conversation you missed while you were not connected.

    Nightfox


    I used to consider that a disadvantage of IRC, but it is pretty much a solved one.

    First of all, in active channels you don't usually check the backstory anyway (it also applies to Telegram groups) because they move so fast.

    Secondly, if you want to get a hold of the backstory you may use an IRC bouncer or an IRC client running on a shell.

    XMPP probably has an edge over IRC there, though.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Gamgee on Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:17:13
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon May 23 2022 09:16 pm

    I'm sure it does. I will just say that I'm happy with what IRC does for
    me, and really don't need any of those other things.

    This conversation strikes me as a metaphor for what happened to BBS's,
    about 25 years ago. A mostly text medium got replaced with a fancy new graphical thing, called the WWW. ;-)


    I am disgusted by the modern WWW. The one served over http(s). It is all avertisements and trackers and cookie warnings all around. Then you want to visit some blog and it downloads 25
    megabytes of javascript libraries to draw a fancy background.

    Most forums don't offer much of an edge over traditional venues such as nntp, mailing lists or BBS.

    The web is great for selling things, on the other hand, becuse it is so easy to interface with payment processors and to show images of your products to potential customers.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:19:52
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon May 23 2022 09:19 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Margaerynne on Mon May 23 2022 03:39 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Margaerynne to MRO on Sun May 22 2022 04:00 pm

    It's honestly pretty rough, isn't it?
    Guess some things don't change, though. People like yelling at each other over the internet too much?

    And on BBS message networks too..


    What sucks is i only have like 6 people to yell at on bbses, on fb i have like 6 million!


    Paradoxically, your yells in Facebook might be less inpactful to each of those 6 million than to each of the 6 BBS users. It is a supply and demand thing. When you post something in a venue
    with 6 million posters, your post becomes backround noise nobody notices. With only 6 posters, your post is a big percentage of the global traffic of the platform.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:23:13
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on Tue May 24 2022 08:32 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on Tue May 24 2022 07:50 am

    My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".

    Californians are Americans.. ;)

    Nightfox


    I have the suspicion that California is to America what Andaluc¡a is to Spain.

    If Andaluc¡a split off from the rest of Spain there is a whole lot of people who would not care the least XD

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:33:06
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to BELLY on Tue May 24 2022 05:21 pm

    The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)

    This.

    Discord was wonderful during 2020 for keeping in touch with core friends and family.

    My comment wasn't directed at Discord in particular, but the general trend away from easier to use and/or text based tech in favor of tech that can also be more invasive.

    I have never tried Discord myself, so I cannot say with any confidence that it is not useful. Sounds like it certainly was for you.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Monday is a hard way to spend 1/7 of your life.


    I don't think anybody here is saying Discord isn t useful to a degree.

    My biggest issue with Discord is that Discord users are like a virus. They spread an infiltrate digital communities, then they start sucking them dry and eventually move on looking for another
    host.

    It pisses me off no end when I am at, say, a My Little Pony themed IRC channel and somebody shows up and tries to convince everybody to move over to their new Discord server (which is not their
    server, btw). It is like religious zealots moving from door to door and trying to get you to join their sect when you are perfectly fine with your current sect already.

    They remind me of SJWs. They are that bad.

    One's choice of chat platform should be like being vegetarian. It is fine if one is vegetarian, but walking into a restaurant and accusing some kid of being a monster because he is having a
    glass of milk gives a bad name to vegetarians.



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  • From the doctor@VERT/QBBS to DUMAS WALKER on Thursday, May 26, 2022 19:13:00

    --- DUMAS WALKER wrote --- > Maybe this is my fault, as I think I must have missed some of the conversation

    I am assuming he means the guy who runs Facebook but I am not sure.

    Could be...


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thursday, May 26, 2022 13:56:43
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Thu May 26 2022 12:09 pm


    First of all, in active channels you don't usually check the backstory anyway (it also applies to Telegram groups) because they move so fast.

    Secondly, if you want to get a hold of the backstory you may use an IRC bouncer or an IRC client running on a shell.


    if you want i can make you a znc account.
    irc bouncers are usually feature rich and do more than one thing.

    with telegram groups that move fast i just push the icon to move to the bottom of the thread.

    as you know my telegram channel is networked to irc but i have it clear every 12 hrs
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thursday, May 26, 2022 13:57:51
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to MRO on Thu May 26 2022 12:19 pm

    Paradoxically, your yells in Facebook might be less inpactful to each of those 6 million than to each of the 6 BBS users. It is a supply and demand thing. When you post something in a venue with 6 million posters, your post becomes backround noise nobody notices. With only 6 posters, your post is a big percentage of the global traffic of the platform.


    yeah since i am a huge troll with powerful botnets i need a lot of attention. also on facebook i've been accused of being a bot. i think bots accused me of being a bot, though.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thursday, May 26, 2022 13:58:30
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Thu May 26 2022 12:23 pm


    I have the suspicion that California is to America what Andaluc­a is to Spain.

    If Andaluc­a split off from the rest of Spain there is a whole lot of people who would not care the least XD



    if we could get bugs bunny to REALLY saw off florida AND california like the cartoon, that would be great.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thursday, May 26, 2022 14:04:07
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Dumas Walker on Thu May 26 2022 12:33 pm

    It pisses me off no end when I am at, say, a My Little Pony themed IRC channel and somebody shows up and tries to convince everybody to move over to their new Discord server (which is not their server, btw). It is like religious zealots moving from door to door and trying to get you to join


    i thought i told you to never mention that!
    act normal! no brony!
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Thursday, May 26, 2022 16:02:18
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Arelor on Thu May 26 2022 01:56 pm

    if you want i can make you a znc account.
    irc bouncers are usually feature rich and do more than one thing.


    Thanks for the offering. I already have a bunch of shell servers for running IRC clients remotely, so I don t need to bother you :-)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Thursday, May 26, 2022 13:46:34
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Thu May 26 2022 12:17 pm

    I am disgusted by the modern WWW. The one served over http(s). It is all avertisements and trackers and cookie warnings all around. Then you want to visit some blog and it downloads 25 megabytes of javascript libraries to draw a fancy background.

    I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.

    I used to have a "made with notepad" and "made with vi" images on my website, I hacked it together by hand for the first couple of years.

    I know Google has implied that http-only would start to be lowered in search results and eventually removed altogether.

    Gemini and Gopher are looking pretty good for minimal, text-friendly services.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Thursday, May 26, 2022 13:47:50
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Thu May 26 2022 12:23 pm

    I have the suspicion that California is to America what Andaluc­a is to Spain.

    If Andaluc­a split off from the rest of Spain there is a whole lot of people who would not care the least XD

    Until the 5th largest economy in the WORLD split from the rest of the US, that is.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Thursday, May 26, 2022 19:27:41
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Thu May 26 2022 12:23 pm

    I have the suspicion that California is to America what Andaluc¡a is to Spain.

    If Andaluc¡a split off from the rest of Spain there is a whole lot of people who would not care the least XD

    I don't know how Andalucia is. But I've heard some people in the US say they wouldn't mind if California broke off and sank into the ocean.. Everyone is different though. I know not everyone agrees with each other, but that's natural..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Thursday, May 26, 2022 19:44:26
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Thu May 26 2022 12:17 pm

    I am disgusted by the modern WWW. The one served over http(s). It is all

    ? Was there ever a WWW that wasn't served over http(s)?

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, May 26, 2022 19:47:17
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Thu May 26 2022 01:46 pm

    I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.

    eh.. I'd rather still be able to have my login & other information encrypted when using my bank accounts on their web site.

    Nightfox

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, May 27, 2022 20:28:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Boraxman <=-

    @MSGID: <628E2F10.51476.dove.dove-gen@realitycheckbbs.org>
    @REPLY: <628C3308.56291.dove-gen@bbs.mozysswamp.org>
    Boraxman wrote to Andre <=-

    You can use a simply Discord client, but then people will expect you to see the animated GIFs, images, video chat.

    Sort of like those Fidonet to Signal gates. Meme posts in Signal end
    up as a URL to an image, which doesn't carry well to a BBS terminal
    session.

    "All on one" solutions generally suffer from this problem. There is
    merit to the "do one thing, and do it well" philosophy.

    Agreed. The only effective "swiss army knife" that I've experienced
    was Netscape Communicator, which, back in 2000, was an effective web
    browser, mail, IRC and news client.

    I used to use that when it became Netscape 7, and then Mozilla, but then, I only used the Web Browser and mail client, and maybe the news client a little, never the IRC one. But that is the only 'multi-tool' that sort of worked.

    MS Office seems to cripple workflows, when compared to using specific tools to solve specific problems..

    Oh, there is one "all on one" which works, and that is Emacs. Technically its just a LISP Machine which defaults to a text editor, but its flexible enough to not constrain you at all.


    I like to run a lean environment on the BBS, and loaded Mozilla
    Seamonkey on it; Seamonkey is a continuation of Communicator, and
    it's still a decent multi-tool - and it saves me from running a
    separate email client and IRC client on the BBS box.

    I use Seamonkey on my laptop, but prefer HexChat or IRSSI for IRC

    ... Insufficient facts always invite danger. Spock, stardate 3141.9.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to Boraxman on Friday, May 27, 2022 07:37:06
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 27 2022 08:28 pm

    Oh, there is one "all on one" which works, and that is Emacs. Technically its just a LISP Machine which defaults to a text editor, but its flexible enough to not constrain you at all.

    This explains so much of what I've seen you write in the past.


    - Andre

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, May 28, 2022 01:57:46
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Mon May 16 2022 06:47 am

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
    was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of

    It felt like you were part of a secret society that few people you encountered even knew about. You'd meet someone and mention something about connect tones or downloading, and if you saw a glint in their
    eyes knew that they knew.

    I Made a BBS data base program that I made BBS list's from, this program would make a page formated .txt BBS list that I would then upload the .txt file to all local BBSes.
    After awhile my BBS became pretty popular.
    The BBS program I made was added to several shareware CD's like Owlware.
    but you're right it was like a little club that few knew about.
    I lived a few miles from Clark Development (the makers of PCBOARD) so thats what I ran at the time.

    ... Canadian DOS prompt: EH?\>

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Saturday, May 28, 2022 02:04:34
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Tue May 17 2022 01:08 pm

    BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It

    You copied a paragraph I wrote to someone else and pasted it verbatim in your reply to boraxman.. ?

    no I'm not sure how that got attributed to me.

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  • From Jas Hud@VERT to Andre on Saturday, May 28, 2022 03:39:41
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Andre to the doctor on Tue May 24 2022 07:02 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: the doctor to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 11:15 am

    I'm sure I'm going to regret this. Why should you not trust Jewish
    tech people?

    It's not much better the the dipshit comment he was responding to.

    "the the" ?

    thanks nobody. go back under your rock.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Friday, May 27, 2022 06:01:00
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.

    eh.. I'd rather still be able to have my login & other information encrypted when using my bank accounts on their web site.

    100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, May 28, 2022 10:22:16
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri May 27 2022 06:01 am

    I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is
    creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.

    eh.. I'd rather still be able to have my login & other information
    encrypted when using my bank accounts on their web site.

    100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...

    Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so I'm not sure I see the problem.

    Nightfox

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, May 28, 2022 12:43:16
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri May 27 2022 06:01 am

    100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...

    I would 100% like to visit your Firefly fan appreciation site, encrypted or not.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, May 28, 2022 14:52:44
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri May 27 2022 06:01 am

    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.

    eh.. I'd rather still be able to have my login & other information encrypted when using my bank accounts on their web site.

    100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...



    some people use the same passwords all over. also they can intercept email addresses.

    you claim to be a tech guy who worked at paypal but you always have the wrong opinion on everything. did you get these wrong ideas from your companies or bring them there? we should always have as much security as possible.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Saturday, May 28, 2022 21:13:31
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 28 2022 10:22 am

    100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...

    Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so I'm not sure I see the problem.

    Nightfox

    The trend being imposed by web browser manufacturers and search engines is to drop http without the TLS.

    I think google is already penalizing http sites which don't offer an https counterpart and some web browsers don't want to connect to http sites unless http is asked explicitly.

    So yeah the near future will come with TLS enforced. Which kind of sucks because it will give so much power to certificate authorities to decide which websites are acceptable and which websites won't be accessible without the user having to wade through dire brower warnings.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sunday, May 29, 2022 08:40:57
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Sat May 28 2022 09:13 pm

    So yeah the near future will come with TLS enforced. Which kind of sucks because it will give so much power to certificate authorities to decide which websites are acceptable and which websites won't be accessible without the user having to wade through dire brower warnings.



    you could always have a self signed cert, a free cert or use cloudflare like me.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sunday, May 29, 2022 09:53:03
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sun May 29 2022 08:40 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Sat May 28 2022 09:13 pm

    So yeah the near future will come with TLS enforced. Which kind of sucks because it will give so much power to certificate authorities to decide which websites are acceptable and which websites won't be accessible with the user having to wade through dire brower warnings.



    you could always have a self signed cert, a free cert or use cloudflare like me.

    Self-signed certs are fine for sites your three buddies and you use. For widespread use they don't really cut it.

    Free certs still require the certificate authority to be on board. Nowadays I don't put it bellow the woke brigade to pest certificate authorities to revoke the certificates of websites they want to cancel. Free certificate authorities are not free from this. There is a number of reasons why pestering certificate authorities is less effective than trying to cajole ISPs but still I think it is dangerous to require people to get the aproval of a CA in order to have a website.

    Cloudflare, see above. Besides, I don't like the fact CLoudflare gets to see, analyze and correlate so much Internet traffic. They are a Google-grade threat for privacy.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sunday, May 29, 2022 16:51:58
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun May 29 2022 09:53 am


    Self-signed certs are fine for sites your three buddies and you use. For widespread use they don't really cut it.

    Free certs still require the certificate authority to be on board. Nowadays I don't put it bellow the woke brigade to pest certificate authorities to revoke the certificates of websites they want to cancel. Free certificate authorities are not free from this. There is a number of reasons why pestering certificate authorities is less effective than trying to cajole ISPs but still I think it is dangerous to require people to get the aproval of a CA in order to have a website.

    Cloudflare, see above. Besides, I don't like the fact CLoudflare gets to see, analyze and correlate so much Internet traffic. They are a Google-grade threat for privacy.


    well the way i see it is our privacey is gone. we gave it up many years ago willingly. and once it's gone you will not get it back.

    it's really evident with these phones we are all addicted to. this thing is spying on me all day and night and listening to me. it's showing me stuff in search results and ads when i am having private conversations with people face to face.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Monday, May 30, 2022 15:05:00
    Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so I
    not sure I see the problem.

    Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.


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  • From vxzero@VERT/SPACEPTR to MRO on Monday, May 30, 2022 20:51:38
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun May 29 2022 09:53 am

    well the way i see it is our privacey is gone. we gave it up many years ago willingly. and once it's gone you will not get it back.

    it's really evident with these phones we are all addicted to. this thing is spying on me all day and night and listening to me. it's showing me stuff
    in search results and ads when i am having private conversations with people face to face.

    I don't think our privacy is completely gone, it just seems that way because we aren't doing anything from stopping large corporations from using using us as their product.

    I'm fed up with crappy phones, so I'm making my own "communicator" device which can take any sort of cellular, WiFi, Lora, packet, etc. as comms. Here's a link (sorry it's on the web, my BBS isn't ready to directly link images yet):

    I present, the Hackberry: https://imgur.com/a/rqIhdx2

    Since I've been through every line of code on this device, I know that it's not stealing my information or advertising to me. It's not finished yet, but it's awesome knowing I can make it do whatever I want.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 00:23:28
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Mon May 30 2022 03:05 pm

    Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.

    Search engines penalize websites nowdays that aren't using SSL, so plenty of sites "need to".

    DaiTengu

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  • From Minex@VERT/TDOD to MRO on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 10:27:32
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sun May 29 2022 04:51 pm

    it's really evident with these phones we are all addicted to. this thing is spying on me all day and night and listening to me. it's showing me stuff in search results and ads when i am having private conversations with people face to face.

    There is definitely an addiction to cell phones. The hard part is quitting too. I tried and failed. Lets face it, cell phones are just handy. I tried to switch to the PinePhone but that was just an awful experience. Nothing works, and at this poiunt, I doubt it ever will. I then moved to a flip phone and realized how much I miss even some of the basic cell phone features -- like a map.

    The Dawn of Demise BBS (tdod.org)

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 16:38:00
    Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.

    Search engines penalize websites nowdays that aren't using SSL, so plenty of tes "need to".

    "Need to" in quotes I will agree with.

    As someone pointed out, that could turn into a slipperly slope.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Minex on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 17:31:43
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Minex to MRO on Tue May 31 2022 10:27 am

    There is definitely an addiction to cell phones. The hard part is quitting too. I tried and failed. Lets face it, cell phones are just handy. I tried to switch to the PinePhone but that was just an awful experience. Nothing works, and at this poiunt, I doubt it ever will. I then moved to a flip phone and realized how much I miss even some of the basic cell phone features -- like a map.

    A flip phone IS a basic cell phone. :P Or rather, a map isn't a basic cell phone feature. I think you mean basic smartphone features.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Minex on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 22:13:36
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Minex to MRO on Tue May 31 2022 10:27 am


    There is definitely an addiction to cell phones. The hard part is quitting too. I tried and failed. Lets face it, cell phones are just handy. I tried to switch to the PinePhone but that was just an awful experience. Nothing works, and at this poiunt, I doubt it ever will. I then moved to a flip phone and realized how much I miss even some of the basic cell phone features -- like a map.

    The Dawn of Demise BBS (tdod.org)

    yup that ubuntu phone and pine phone sounded nice but they were just flops.
    we are slaves to our phones now.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 22:15:56
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Minex on Tue May 31 2022 05:31 pm


    A flip phone IS a basic cell phone. :P Or rather, a map isn't a basic cell phone feature. I think you mean basic smartphone features.


    basic cellphones are now smart phones.
    a flip phone is an antiquated cell phone
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  • From Multiplemiggs@VERT/CAVEBBS to vxzero on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 21:57:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: vxzero to MRO on Mon May 30 2022 08:51 pm

    I'm fed up with crappy phones, so I'm making my own "communicator" device wh can take any sort of cellular, WiFi, Lora, packet, etc. as comms. Here's a link (sorry it's on the web, my BBS isn't ready to directly link images yet)

    I present, the Hackberry: https://imgur.com/a/rqIhdx2

    I'm fed up with crappy phones, so I'm making my own "communicator" device wh

    Now that looks impressive. I'm also fed up with these cellphones. If payphones were still around I would rather use one for the rare time that I have to make a call while I'm out. Seems as though the cell companies are purposely killing off the GSM networks so that they can force eveyone to be constantly tracked.

    This looks like an interesting alternative.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Multiplemiggs on Wednesday, June 01, 2022 01:21:36
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Multiplemiggs to vxzero on Tue May 31 2022 09:57 pm


    Now that looks impressive. I'm also fed up with these cellphones. If payphones were still around I would rather use one for the rare time that I have to make a call while I'm out. Seems as though the cell companies are purposely killing off the GSM networks so that they can force eveyone to be constantly tracked.

    This looks like an interesting alternative.


    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 06:55:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so
    I

    not sure I see the problem.

    Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.

    Force the origin sites to use HTTPS? I thought they'd do an HTTPS to HTTP translation on their end if configured to do so. While this does break the intention of end-to-end encryption, it does provide a level of convenience
    for someone who doesn't want to deal with certificates but still mostly encrypt the transaction.

    I'd used Cloudflare for a hosted web site, played around with it on the BBS but ended up using NGINX Proxy Manager; apparently it can do the SSL encryption and hand off http to my origin servers. Then, I could take the certificates off of them (or run self-signed certificates) and keep the encryption while not worrying about trying to renew multiple letsencrypt certs.

    That's a bandaid until I learn how to do wildcard cert validation through
    DNS; I haven't gotten around to that yet.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Wednesday, June 01, 2022 07:08:00
    Nightfox wrote to Minex <=-

    A flip phone IS a basic cell phone. :P Or rather, a map isn't a basic cell phone feature. I think you mean basic smartphone features.

    Even "dumb" phones are getting smarter. They all have to have at least 4g networking, since the 2g/3g networks are retired.

    I bought a Nokia 6300 4G for my daughter to bring to camp, and have been playing with it. Looks like a standard candy-bar Nokia, but it's got a nice color screen, an SD card slot, USB charging (haven't tried mounting it from
    my computer yet).

    It's also got Bluetooth, Google text-to-speech, so no more T9 text input -- and Google Maps, Facebook and Whatsapp, and a KaiOS app store.

    Not bad for $69, unlocked - and it fits in a pocket.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Multiplemiggs on Wednesday, June 01, 2022 07:13:00
    Multiplemiggs wrote to vxzero <=-

    Now that looks impressive. I'm also fed up with these cellphones. If payphones were still around I would rather use one for the rare time
    that I have to make a call while I'm out. Seems as though the cell companies are purposely killing off the GSM networks so that they can force eveyone to be constantly tracked.

    They're not the ones that care about tracking us, they care about making the most money with the least spend. We were already tracked well enough on
    2g/3g anyways. :)

    By retiring the older networks they get to re-use tower space, saving costs. They get to force people to buy new phones, increasing revenue. They have
    more opportunity to charge outrageous overage charges with little or no warning, which increases their revenues.

    And, they all know they need to be competitive.

    That being said, I wonder what sort of market would be available to T-mobile or another provider if they committed to keeping their legacy networks
    around? Would there be enough people with flip phones and 3G iphones to make it a selling point?


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thursday, June 02, 2022 01:36:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue May 31 2022 10:15 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Minex on Tue May 31 2022 05:31 pm


    A flip phone IS a basic cell phone. :P Or rather, a map isn't a basic c phone feature. I think you mean basic smartphone features.


    basic cellphones are now smart phones.
    a flip phone is an antiquated cell phone

    There are flip phone apps. they're not as polished as smart phone apps. Browsing on a flip phone sucks. I tried to see as far as I can go before moving to a smart phone. My previous employer issued me an Iphone for work, h owever I kept all my private stuff on an old LG phone until 3G was finally dropped in my area.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thursday, June 02, 2022 01:38:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Multiplemiggs on Wed Jun 01 2022 01:21 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Multiplemiggs to vxzero on Tue May 31 2022 09:57 pm


    Now that looks impressive. I'm also fed up with these cellphones. If payphones were still around I would rather use one for the rare time that have to make a call while I'm out. Seems as though the cell companies ar purposely killing off the GSM networks so that they can force eveyone to constantly tracked.

    This looks like an interesting alternative.


    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thursday, June 02, 2022 06:23:26
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:36 am


    There are flip phone apps. they're not as polished as smart phone apps. Browsing on a flip phone sucks. I tried to see as far as I can go before moving to a smart phone. My previous employer issued me an Iphone for work, h owever I kept all my private stuff on an old LG phone until 3G was finally dropped in my area.

    yeah, i had a flip phone back in 2004
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thursday, June 02, 2022 06:24:58
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am

    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

    i'd rather have a smart phone.
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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, June 02, 2022 07:39:29
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue May 31 2022 06:55 am

    Force the origin sites to use HTTPS? I thought they'd do an HTTPS to HTTP translation on their end if configured to do so. While this does break the intention of end-to-end encryption, it does provide a level of convenience for someone who doesn't want to deal with certificates but still mostly encrypt the transaction.

    What he's trying to say is that search engines apply a small SEO penalty to sites that don't offer HTTPS.

    That's a bandaid until I learn how to do wildcard cert validation through DNS; I haven't gotten around to that yet.

    DNS doesn't have anything to do with certs. Wildcard certs are just a cert that is valid for any subdomain on the certs your domain. It's handled by the web server (or whatever is accepting the web connection).


    - Andre

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  • From Belly@VERT/BRAZINET to Andre on Thursday, June 02, 2022 16:56:22
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Andre to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jun 02 2022 07:39 am

    That's a bandaid until I learn how to do wildcard cert validation throu DNS; I haven't gotten around to that yet.

    DNS doesn't have anything to do with certs. Wildcard certs are just a cert t

    It does when you're validating with Let's Encrypt.

    o
    (O)
    BeLLy

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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to Belly on Thursday, June 02, 2022 19:27:50
    It does when you're validating with Let's Encrypt.

    Ah, I get it now that they want a TXT record to validate that you own the domain.

    Doing all that convoluted nonsense with a proxy server just to avoid learning how to add a single TXT record. :-/


    - Andre

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Andre on Friday, June 03, 2022 06:46:00
    Andre wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    DNS doesn't have anything to do with certs. Wildcard certs are just a
    cert that is valid for any subdomain on the certs your domain. It's handled by the web server (or whatever is accepting the web
    connection).

    Letsencrypt uses DNS validation to provide wildcard DNS through their system
    - that's what I meant.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Andre on Friday, June 03, 2022 06:55:00
    Andre wrote to Belly <=-

    It does when you're validating with Let's Encrypt.

    Doing all that convoluted nonsense with a proxy server just to avoid learning how to add a single TXT record. :-/

    The proxying is helpful when you have one IP address, like I do, with a homelab behind it that you'd like to have exposed to the internet - and I'm working with NGINX and proxying at work, so it was a nice transition.

    NGINX Proxy Manager is a nice graphical tool for administering a reverse
    proxy - and with a single LE cert with multiple hostnames attached, it could encrypt all the traffic coming in, then pass off to an internal host on HTTP or an unsigned cert you don't want to expose to the outside world.






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  • From Andre@VERT/RDOMENTR to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, June 03, 2022 13:47:45
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Andre on Fri Jun 03 2022 06:55 am

    The proxying is helpful when you have one IP address, like I do, with a homelab behind it that you'd like to have exposed to the internet - and I'm working with NGINX and proxying at work, so it was a nice transition.

    NGINX Proxy Manager is a nice graphical tool for administering a reverse proxy - and with a single LE cert with multiple hostnames attached, it could encrypt all the traffic coming in, then pass off to an internal host on HTTP or an unsigned cert you don't want to expose to the outside world.

    It's a lot of added complexity for a benefit I can't really identify unless you're doing a bunch of security checks (which WAFs and proxies suck at anyway).

    You're still exposing them to the internet to a great extent. All the same business logic and data exfil issues will still exist. The only thing you might be protecting from is RCE on a particular service.


    - Andre

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Friday, June 03, 2022 21:04:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Moondog on Thu Jun 02 2022 06:24 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am

    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

    i'd rather have a smart phone.

    My father is a Luddite and is 80 years old. It was a pain to get him to
    carry a flip phone, and now it's like pulling teeth to get him to use his
    smart phone. He has committred to learn the phone, but if I knew it would've been this much hassle, I would've kept him using an LTE capable flip phone. All he needs is text and phone.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Saturday, June 04, 2022 04:04:34
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Jun 03 2022 09:04 pm


    i'd rather have a smart phone.

    My father is a Luddite and is 80 years old. It was a pain to get him to carry a flip phone, and now it's like pulling teeth to get him to use his smart phone. He has committred to learn the phone, but if I knew it would've been this much hassle, I would've kept him using an LTE capable flip phone.

    just show him how to look up porn on the phone.
    he will be a whiz in a week.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Boraxman on Saturday, June 04, 2022 11:57:24
    On 5/20/22 6:03 PM, Boraxman wrote:

    The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, back them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
    Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was using that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.

    I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.

    I ran, iirc Trillium for a long time, that connected to them all... iirc
    gaim did as well.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Nightfox on Saturday, June 04, 2022 12:29:48
    On 5/24/22 8:32 AM, Nightfox wrote:
    My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or
    Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".

    Californians are Americans.. ;)

    But are they? Are they really? They don't seem to think so. LoL.
    --
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Arelor on Saturday, June 04, 2022 12:42:40
    On 5/28/22 7:13 PM, Arelor wrote:

    So yeah the near future will come with TLS enforced. Which kind of
    sucks because it will give so much power to certificate authorities
    to decide which websites are acceptable and which websites won't be accessible without the user having to wade through dire brower
    warnings.

    Fortunately Cloudflare and Let's Encrypt have been pretty liberal in not blocking certs of their own accord. It's been really easy... if you use Caddy, it's even wired by default to get a cert for domains it's
    configured for.

    I'm less inclined to trust any resource not https at least... in the
    end, it's a vector for large actors to introduce a lot of malware.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Arelor on Saturday, June 04, 2022 12:46:32
    On 5/29/22 7:53 AM, Arelor wrote:

    Free certs still require the certificate authority to be on board. Nowadays I don't put it bellow the woke brigade to pest certificate authorities to revoke
    the certificates of websites they want to cancel. Free certificate authorities
    are not free from this. There is a number of reasons why pestering certificate
    authorities is less effective than trying to cajole ISPs but still I think it is dangerous to require people to get the aproval of a CA in order to have a website.

    Cloudflare, see above. Besides, I don't like the fact CLoudflare gets to see, analyze and correlate so much Internet traffic. They are a Google-grade threat
    for privacy.

    In the end, there's plenty of options for certs, and at the very least
    Let's Encrypt and Cloudflare have both stood up against woke mob
    requests to remove certain certs or customers.

    There's not really a requirement... but that said, I'd prefer all
    traffic into portable runtimes be over encrypted channels by default.

    It will affect search engine ranking, but nothing is stopping someone
    staying http only... and nothing is stopping state actors slurping up
    all the data through major junction points and/or injecting http
    payloads in the middle.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Saturday, June 04, 2022 12:51:26
    On 5/30/22 12:05 PM, Dumas Walker wrote:
    Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so I
    not sure I see the problem.

    Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.
    Browsers are generally the single biggest vector for attack of a given computer. Over HTTP (Non-S) anyone with control over any routing
    hardware between you and websites can inject malware payloads onto your computer.

    It's not to protect the My Little Bronie site content, it's to protect
    your system from malicious actors.. namely state actors that have been
    and are doing these things (injecting/rerouting common http traffic).
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, June 04, 2022 13:19:11
    On 6/3/22 6:55 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:

    The proxying is helpful when you have one IP address, like I do, with a homelab behind it that you'd like to have exposed to the internet - and I'm working with NGINX and proxying at work, so it was a nice transition.

    NGINX Proxy Manager is a nice graphical tool for administering a reverse proxy - and with a single LE cert with multiple hostnames attached, it could encrypt all the traffic coming in, then pass off to an internal host on HTTP or an unsigned cert you don't want to expose to the outside world.

    Doing much the same myself... One of my hosts is using Dokku, which has
    a proxy layer for containerized apps... I have a Caddy server setup to
    proxy the rest.
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  • From nostalia@VERT/TECHRONO to MRO on Monday, June 06, 2022 18:52:33
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am

    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

    Actually too bad it takes photos... would have been nice for high security facilties that don't care that you have a comm device, but don't want you haveing a camera.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to nostalia on Monday, June 06, 2022 22:23:57
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: nostalia to MRO on Mon Jun 06 2022 06:52 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am

    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

    Actually too bad it takes photos... would have been nice for high security facilties that don't care that you have a comm device, but don't want you haveing a camera.

    you are replying to the wrong person. i did not say:

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

    someone else did.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to nostalia on Tuesday, June 07, 2022 23:54:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: nostalia to MRO on Mon Jun 06 2022 06:52 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am

    i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
    I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.

    Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.

    Actually too bad it takes photos... would have been nice for high security f


    I wonder if a phone management app such as Maas 360 could disable device functions?

    Regarding flip phones, I know companies such as Nokia made retro re-issues of older phones with newer technology. For exanple, Neo's phone in the first Matrix film was modifed by the props guys so the bottom half would flip down (real one couldn't,) and the re-issue fixed that problem plus additional appli cation functionality not offered when new.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Wednesday, June 08, 2022 08:22:00
    Moondog wrote to nostalia <=-

    Regarding flip phones, I know companies such as Nokia made retro
    re-issues of older phones with newer technology.

    I posted elsewhere about a Nokia 6300 4G I bought recently. It's a modern
    take on thwe candy-bar form-facotr phone, and supports the 4G networks,
    unlike older candy bar phones. The UI is responsive, it's got a half-decent (albeit small) web browser, Bluetooth, Google Maps, WhatsApp and Facebook,
    an app store, and Google text-to-speech (so no more T9 predictive text
    input)

    If it had a media player, it'd be ideal. As it is, it has a FM radio that plays through headphones, using the cord as an antenna.

    I didn't realize how nice having my phone battery last a week was.


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  • From Mandog@VERT/BRAZINET to Belly on Wednesday, June 15, 2022 18:23:50
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Belly to Andre on Thu Jun 02 2022 04:56 pm

    I love the signature!

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  • From multiplemiggs@VERT/BTTMLSS to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, June 20, 2022 16:39:00
    They're not the ones that care about tracking us, they care about making t most money with the least spend. We were already tracked well enough on 2g/3g anyways. :)

    By retiring the older networks they get to re-use tower space, saving cost They get to force people to buy new phones, increasing revenue. They have more opportunity to charge outrageous overage charges with little or no warning, which increases their revenues.

    And, they all know they need to be competitive.

    That being said, I wonder what sort of market would be available to T-mobi or another provider if they committed to keeping their legacy networks around? Would there be enough people with flip phones and 3G iphones to ma it a selling point?


    True. The cell companies keep us buying new phones with planned obsolesce,
    and attempt to lure you in with another 3 year contract. I do wish there was just a basic phone system that they would leave alone for talk and text. GSM was fine for this, but is pretty much a thing of the past and so is a nice compact little phone for just making calls and sending texts.

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  • From Kyonshi@VERT/EREBOR to All on Thursday, January 04, 2024 10:03:22
    Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Kyonshi on Thursday, January 04, 2024 10:16:12
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyonshi to All on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:03 am

    Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.

    Welcome!
    The culture is .... varied.

    First, there's a bunch of grumpy, angry old men that scream "GET OFF MY LAWN"! Of course, first they need to document the process of screaming, how the scream should be done, who should be able to hear it, etc. They are all part of FidoNet. You can ignore them for the most part.

    Second, like most places on the internet, there's a few trolls. Some are more subtle than others, but if you're familiar with social media, you can usually pick them out rather quickly and ignore most of what they say.
    Third, there's a bunch of really great helpful people of varying ages that love it when new people show up! They're happy to answer questions, even if they've been asked 100 times before. (Oftentimes questions often have answers in documentation, so look there first!)
    Most have been part of this world for decades, and have lots of knowlege to share.

    Have fun!

    DaiTengu

    ...It's so true to life it's hardly true.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Kyonshi on Thursday, January 04, 2024 10:26:46
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyonshi to All on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:03 am


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    One quick thing, You may want to update your "Origin Line" in your config so we know what your BBS is. This gets automatically added to the end of any message that's sent to your QWK hub (VERT).

    in SCFG go to: Networks -> QWK Packet Networks -> Default Tagline

    You can change it from "My Brand-New BBS" to the name of your system.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to DaiTengu on Thursday, January 04, 2024 10:07:25
    Re: Hello
    By: DaiTengu to Kyonshi on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:16 am

    The culture is .... varied.

    First, there's a bunch of grumpy, angry old men that scream "GET OFF MY LAWN"! Of course, first they need to document the process of screaming, how the scream should be done, who should be able to hear it, etc. They are all part of FidoNet. You can ignore them for the most part.

    *Fight-O-Net

    Nightfox

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  • From Khronos@VERT/CWSHACK to Kyonshi on Thursday, January 04, 2024 15:16:20
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyonshi to All on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:03:22

    Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.


    Welcome to the group.
    Just jump in and have fun. I have only been running my system for 6 months or soand am enjoying it a lot.

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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to DaiTengu on Thursday, January 04, 2024 17:54:18
    Re: Hello
    By: DaiTengu to Kyonshi on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:16 am

    Second, like most places on the internet, there's a few trolls. Some are

    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.
    _____
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Kyonshi on Thursday, January 04, 2024 11:51:00
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyonshi to All on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:03 am

    Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.

    Hi! It's awesome to suddenly see new people posting!

    Welcome and post any questions you might have!

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Kurisu on Thursday, January 04, 2024 19:29:35
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to DaiTengu on Thu Jan 04 2024 05:54 pm

    Second, like most places on the internet, there's a few trolls. Some are

    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.

    I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
    I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts from him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.

    Nightfox

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  • From Margaerynne@VERT/PALANTIR to Kyonshi on Thursday, January 04, 2024 22:00:44
    Re: Hello
    By: Kyonshi to All on Thu Jan 04 2024 10:03 am

    Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.

    Hail, and well met!

    It's pretty chill here, outside of a few curmudgeons. Tons of boards, lots of people with experience in the weirdest fields, and all the perks of any gathering of people that spend their time on niche boards.

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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to Nightfox on Friday, January 05, 2024 05:07:45
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Kurisu on Thu Jan 04 2024 07:29 pm

    I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
    I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts from him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.

    Yeah, certainly didn't seem intentional -- it was just oddly amusing how it happened. Rather liked the guy.

    Him passing is, of course, what I wonder about. Certainly would hope nothing has happened but sadly you never know... :(
    _____
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Nightfox on Friday, January 05, 2024 03:04:12
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Kurisu on Thu Jan 04 2024 07:29 pm

    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.

    I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
    I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts from him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.

    Since we are on a dark subject, does anyone know what happened to Jazzman? I took an extended break and when I came back he was no longer active.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to DaiTengu on Friday, January 05, 2024 06:24:00
    DaiTengu wrote to Kyonshi <=-

    they say. Third, there's a bunch of really great helpful people of
    varying ages that love it when new people show up! They're happy to answer questions, even if they've been asked 100 times before.
    (Oftentimes questions often have answers in documentation, so look
    there first!) Most have been part of this world for decades, and have
    lots of knowlege to share.

    Wait, which group are you? :)



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Margaerynne on Friday, January 05, 2024 06:28:00
    Margaerynne wrote to Kyonshi <=-

    lots of people with experience in the weirdest fields, and all the
    perks of any gathering of people that spend their time on niche boards.

    "Life means nothing if you're not obsessed with something..."

    --me, just now.




    ... Am I any closer to finding what I'm looking for?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Friday, January 05, 2024 09:58:31
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Kurisu on Thu Jan 04 2024 07:29 pm


    I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
    I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts from him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.


    he was last on vert 06/23/22
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Kurisu on Friday, January 05, 2024 09:59:32
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to Nightfox on Fri Jan 05 2024 05:07 am

    Yeah, certainly didn't seem intentional -- it was just oddly amusing how it happened. Rather liked the guy.


    you might need to have your head examined.

    Him passing is, of course, what I wonder about. Certainly would hope nothing has happened but sadly you never know... :(

    i killed him.
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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to MRO on Friday, January 05, 2024 11:38:50
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Kurisu on Fri Jan 05 2024 09:59 am

    you might need to have your head examined.

    Maybe.

    i killed him.

    I have my doubts about your claim...
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, January 05, 2024 12:22:16
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to DaiTengu on Fri Jan 05 2024 06:24 am


    Wait, which group are you? :)


    I'm a jack of all trades, a master of none.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Friday, January 05, 2024 10:47:00
    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.

    I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
    I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts f
    m him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.

    He also ran into some issues when his favorite system to call switched from Synchronet to something else. That was his reason given for ceasing to moderate the MOBILE echo.

    I think someone had is supposedly real name and tried to find out if
    anything happened to him, without success. I got the impression that he
    was very mobility restricted. :(


    * SLMR 2.1a * Engineers: often wrong, seldom in doubt.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Friday, January 05, 2024 19:50:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.

    I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
    I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts
    f

    m him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.

    I think someone had is supposedly real name and tried to find out
    if anything happened to him, without success. I got the
    impression that he was very mobility restricted. :(

    I think his name was Erich Bublitz or something close to that. I did a cursory search on him and find nothing, pretty much.

    I do think he has passed away, as he often talked about his health
    problems (not specifics, but just that he had issues), and I believe he
    was last known to be living in a nursing home. Somewhere in Canada as I recall.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, January 06, 2024 09:18:04
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Fri Jan 05 2024 10:47 am


    He also ran into some issues when his favorite system to call switched from Synchronet to something else. That was his reason given for ceasing to moderate the MOBILE echo.

    I think someone had is supposedly real name and tried to find out if anything happened to him, without success. I got the impression that he
    was very mobility restricted. :(


    Yes he said he was disabled and used a tablet.

    But, just take it all with a grain of salt. he could have been some dude having fun with us and he got bored with it. maybe he wasn't even disabled.

    People have done stuff like that before.
    remember we have a guy who claims to be god who pops in and out. he's god yet he can't pay his electricity bill.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Saturday, January 06, 2024 10:15:00
    I do think he has passed away, as he often talked about his health
    problems (not specifics, but just that he had issues), and I believe he
    was last known to be living in a nursing home. Somewhere in Canada as I recall.

    Yes, he claimed to be Canadian.


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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Kurisu on Saturday, January 06, 2024 14:41:00
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to DaiTengu on Thu Jan 04 2024 05:54 pm

    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.

    "rich in money but not in love" RIP (maybe)



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Kurisu on Sunday, January 07, 2024 15:17:42
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to DaiTengu on Thu Jan 04 2024 05:54 pm

    That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?
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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to Digital Man on Sunday, January 07, 2024 18:49:11
    Re: Hello
    By: Digital Man to Kurisu on Sun Jan 07 2024 03:17 pm

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?

    It's sadly the most reasonable conclusion.

    The other day I took a shot with trying to get in contact with a former co sysop of his to see what info they may be able to share, but I've not pushed further. Just waiting for a possible reply that may never come.

    Don't know why this kind of bothers me a bit, but it does. Guess it's just in my nature. :\
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  • From j0HNNY a1PHA@VERT/R3TR0X to Digital Man on Monday, January 08, 2024 01:45:00
    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?

    Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius

    Sad if it's RIP either way...

    |08.|05j|13A|08.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Kurisu on Monday, January 08, 2024 06:45:49
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to Digital Man on Sun Jan 07 2024 06:49 pm


    The other day I took a shot with trying to get in contact with a former co sysop of his to see what info they may be able to share, but I've not pushed further. Just waiting for a possible reply that may never come.

    Don't know why this kind of bothers me a bit, but it does. Guess it's just in my nature. :\

    There's a lot of people that come and go with this hobby.
    Not all of them die off; they just find another interest.

    There's people that come back every 5-10 years.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to j0HNNY a1PHA on Monday, January 08, 2024 06:54:40
    Re: Hello
    By: j0HNNY a1PHA to Digital Man on Mon Jan 08 2024 01:45 am

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?

    Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius

    Sad if it's RIP either way...


    who really knows.

    Anyways, i can't find an obituary or death notice.
    That name is attached to a real person in that location.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Kurisu on Monday, January 08, 2024 09:44:27
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to Digital Man on Sun Jan 07 2024 06:49 pm

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us.
    He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022,
    so ... RIP TM?

    It's sadly the most reasonable conclusion.

    The other day I took a shot with trying to get in contact with a former co sysop of his to see what info they may be able to share, but I've not pushed further. Just waiting for a possible reply that may never come.

    Don't know why this kind of bothers me a bit, but it does. Guess it's just in my nature. :\

    Honestly it bugs me a bit too. TM seemed to like conversing with people on BBSes (when people were being friendly), and he often talked about running a BBS. I don't think he was running one of his own though, as he only mentioned having an iPad. He had talked about possibly getting a Microsoft Surface tablet to run a BBS on, but I don't think he ever did. Also, he said he was living in a (elderly?) care facility, and I wondered if it would be difficult to run a BBS in a place like that, as you probably wouldn't be able to get ports forwarded to your computer. I think at one point he had mentioned possibly running a BBS in the cloud somewhere so that it would be accessible online.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, January 08, 2024 09:42:00
    People have done stuff like that before.
    remember we have a guy who claims to be god who pops in and out. he's god yet
    e can't pay his electricity bill.

    Why would he need a bill? He should be able to make his own electricity, right?


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Monday, January 08, 2024 14:39:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to MRO <=-

    People have done stuff like that before.
    remember we have a guy who claims to be god who pops in and out. he's god
    yet
    he can't pay his electricity bill.

    Why would he need a bill? He should be able to make his own
    electricity, right?

    Well yes, of course. Where do ya think lightning comes from? ;-)



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to j0HNNY a1PHA on Tuesday, January 09, 2024 01:26:21
    Re: Hello
    By: j0HNNY a1PHA to Digital Man on Mon Jan 08 2024 01:45 am

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?

    Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius

    Oh, he is/was for real all right.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 09, 2024 05:13:44
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Kurisu on Mon Jan 08 2024 09:44 am

    Honestly it bugs me a bit too. TM seemed to like conversing with people on BBSes (when people were being friendly), and he often talked about running a BBS. I don't think he was running one of his own though, as he only mentioned having an iPad. He had talked about possibly getting a Microsoft Surface tablet to run a BBS on, but I don't think he ever did. Also, he said he was living in a (elderly?) care facility, and I wondered if it would be difficult to run a BBS in a place like that, as you probably wouldn't be able to get ports forwarded to your computer. I think at one point he had mentioned possibly running a BBS in the cloud somewhere so that it would be accessible online.

    Well he talked a lot and asked a lot of questions. he didn't really run a bbs.

    I think he could have got a bbs to run through marisag but I'm not sure if he followed through or even tried.

    Like I said, there's no death notice and that's extremely rare.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, January 09, 2024 05:14:44
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Jan 08 2024 09:42 am

    People have done stuff like that before.
    remember we have a guy who claims to be god who pops in and out. he's god yet
    e can't pay his electricity bill.

    Why would he need a bill? He should be able to make his own electricity, right?



    exactly. i asked why god has these problems. no answer.
    THIS guy might be dead too. he was living in a care facility and haven't heard from him since covid i'm pretty sure.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Tuesday, January 09, 2024 05:18:05
    Re: Hello
    By: Digital Man to j0HNNY a1PHA on Tue Jan 09 2024 01:26 am

    June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?

    Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius

    Oh, he is/was for real all right.

    well that's the part of being an epic troll. people won't believe it was fake.

    Millionaire didn't start out that bad but he got worse and worse and got real ridiculously unbelieveable at some times.

    He was probably just an askhole like phil. Phil is a smart guy and knows how to setup all his shit and more but he always asked pointless questions. A strange personality quirk like he doesn't trust himself.

    Nobody would believe me on this but i've had full access to plt's servers when helping him and dude only acts like a moron and he needed no help with anything.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 09, 2024 10:13:28
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 09 2024 05:13 am


    I think he could have got a bbs to run through marisag but I'm not sure if he followed through or even tried.

    Like I said, there's no death notice and that's extremely rare.

    okay i talked to t1ny and he said they wouldn't do an announcement without money paying for it.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Digital Man on Tuesday, January 09, 2024 18:25:00
    Hello DM!

    ** On Tuesday 09.01.24 - 01:26, Digital Man wrote to j0HNNY a1PHA:

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no
    longer with be us.

    Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius

    Oh, he is/was for real all right.

    The last message I still have in my system from him is Jun 4
    2022.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Wednesday, January 10, 2024 04:22:21
    Re: Hello
    By: Ogg to Digital Man on Tue Jan 09 2024 06:25 pm

    Hello DM!

    ** On Tuesday 09.01.24 - 01:26, Digital Man wrote to j0HNNY a1PHA:

    I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no
    longer with be us.

    Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius

    Oh, he is/was for real all right.

    The last message I still have in my system from him is Jun 4
    2022.

    weird thing was before people started this discussion about him a few weeks before i was looking into where he was. dm's date and yours seems like the latest.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Wednesday, January 10, 2024 13:13:35
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Jan 09 2024 05:18 am

    Oh, he is/was for real all right.

    well that's the part of being an epic troll. people won't believe it was fake.

    Well I talked to Erich voice, so yeah, he is (or was) a real/unique dude. I think he was just a very lonely person that latched on to our community. I seem to recall he did run a (Synchronet) BBS at some time or other and was a long time (ago?) user of BBSes, so it wasn't a totally random interaction.
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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to Digital Man on Wednesday, January 10, 2024 16:50:27
    Re: Hello
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Jan 10 2024 01:13 pm

    seem to recall he did run a (Synchronet) BBS at some time or other and was a

    Evidence suggests he was a co-sysop at The Rusty Mailbox, which is where I've inquired about him at. It was the only sensible lead I had... actually should check if I've gotten a reply or not.
    _____
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Saturday, January 13, 2024 08:58:00
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Wednesday 10.01.24 - 04:22, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    The last message I still have in my system from him is Jun 4
    2022.

    [...]

    since you are canandian, do you know any good way of looking up death notices? -+-

    There ought to be a general/publicly accessible list of obits.
    My understanding is that most of the funeral homes tap into it
    and submit info. But I am not aware of any overall obit
    registry.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sunday, January 14, 2024 05:12:46
    Re: Hello
    By: Ogg to MRO on Sat Jan 13 2024 08:58 am


    There ought to be a general/publicly accessible list of obits.
    My understanding is that most of the funeral homes tap into it
    and submit info. But I am not aware of any overall obit
    registry.

    so as a freaking canadian, what would you use without being so general
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, January 15, 2024 11:42:00
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Sunday 14.01.24 - 05:12, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    so as a freaking canadian, what would you use without being so general

    I'm saying I don't know of a tried and true reporting system.
    My guess would be to check each funeral home in the area and
    see if there is a listing.

    I seems that once one funeral home posts a listing, the general
    internet scrubbing tools pick them up and re-list them into
    their own obit sites - filled with ads ofcourse - so that you
    rely on those latter sites.

    I have a friend doing some research looking for Erich. If he
    has died, and there is a probated will, then that should also
    be publicly available.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Monday, January 15, 2024 14:25:09
    Re: Hello
    By: Ogg to MRO on Mon Jan 15 2024 11:42 am

    so as a freaking canadian, what would you use without being so general

    I'm saying I don't know of a tried and true reporting system.
    My guess would be to check each funeral home in the area and
    see if there is a listing.

    I seems that once one funeral home posts a listing, the general
    internet scrubbing tools pick them up and re-list them into
    their own obit sites - filled with ads ofcourse - so that you

    okay captain hypothetical!

    I have a friend doing some research looking for Erich. If he
    has died, and there is a probated will, then that should also
    be publicly available.

    yeah what websites do you guys have for looking up legal records?
    like i want to lookup his name and see if something is in civil or family court. what site do i use?
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tuesday, January 16, 2024 09:21:00
    I'm saying I don't know of a tried and true reporting system.
    My guess would be to check each funeral home in the area and
    see if there is a listing.

    I seems that once one funeral home posts a listing, the general
    internet scrubbing tools pick them up and re-list them into
    their own obit sites - filled with ads ofcourse - so that you

    okay captain hypothetical!

    It sounds like he's not giving you a straight answer because he does not
    have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American reporting system, I would say "check google?" because I really don't know
    of a good reporting system here, either.

    I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a
    while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never
    could find anything about him.


    * SLMR 2.1a * It's as easy as 3.14159265358979323846...

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, January 16, 2024 18:59:40
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Jan 16 2024 09:21 am

    It sounds like he's not giving you a straight answer because he does not have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American

    he should just say it.

    have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American reporting system, I would say "check google?" because I really don't know
    of a good reporting system here, either.


    a lot of our obituary providers link together. also if you find out where they live, check to see if they do court listings.

    I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a
    while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    he probably used a fake name.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Tuesday, January 16, 2024 17:54:47
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 16 2024 06:59 pm

    It sounds like he's not giving you a straight answer because he does not
    have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American

    he should just say it.

    I think he basically did, didn't he? In an earlier message, he mentioned something about possibly being a publicly accessible list of obits but he isn't aware of an overall obit registry.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 16, 2024 20:59:01
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Jan 16 2024 05:54 pm

    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 16 2024 06:59 pm

    It sounds like he's not giving you a straight answer because he does not
    have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American

    he should just say it.

    I think he basically did, didn't he? In an earlier message, he mentioned something about possibly being a publicly accessible list of obits but he isn't aware of an overall obit registry.


    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up obituaries in your own country.
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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, January 16, 2024 20:10:00
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Jan 16 2024 09:21 am

    while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    This is how I want to go out.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 09:10:37
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 16 2024 08:59 pm

    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up obituaries in your own country.

    Honestly I'm not sure where I'd look up obituaries here.. I'd probably have to Google it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 09:52:00
    I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    he probably used a fake name.

    That is what I suspect now.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NOPANTS on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 09:30:00
    while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    This is how I want to go out.

    As an old-timer BBS user, or to disappear without a trace (or both!). ;)


    * SLMR 2.1a * Blessed are the censors; they shall inhibit the earth.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 09:39:00
    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up >bituaries in your own country.

    Especially with social media these days, I feel like if it is someone I am close enough to that I really want to know about it, I am going to find out about it through family, friends, a FB post, or sometimes a BBS network post.

    I do run into the rare occassion, like with the missing BBS user, that I
    don't really know about. Otherwise, I usually find out about deaths
    through the above mentioned places.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 11:15:10
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Jan 17 2024 09:39 am

    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look
    up bituaries in your own country.

    Especially with social media these days, I feel like if it is someone I am close enough to that I really want to know about it, I am going to find out about it through family, friends, a FB post, or sometimes a BBS network post.

    That's my case too. For someone I'm close to, I've always found out through family or friends, via a phone call, text, or social media.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to MRO on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 19:45:00
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 16 2024 08:59 pm

    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up obituaries in your own country.

    I use The Living and the Dead: Handbook for the Recently Deceased and just ask them directly.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, January 18, 2024 04:54:25
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Jan 17 2024 09:10 am

    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 16 2024 08:59 pm

    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up obituaries in your own country.

    Honestly I'm not sure where I'd look up obituaries here.. I'd probably have to Google it.


    that's pretty bad dude. didn't you ever have a family member die?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thursday, January 18, 2024 05:58:04
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Jan 17 2024 09:52 am

    I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    he probably used a fake name.

    That is what I suspect now.


    i miss my one user lenny of repan, real name charles knaper. I think he passed away. he was crazy about usurper and provided jakob with many ideas.
    he was pretty much the life of usurper.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thursday, January 18, 2024 05:59:20
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Jan 17 2024 09:39 am

    don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up >bituaries in your own country.

    Especially with social media these days, I feel like if it is someone I

    am
    close enough to that I really want to know about it, I am going to find out about it through family, friends, a FB post, or sometimes a BBS network post.

    I do run into the rare occassion, like with the missing BBS user, that I don't really know about. Otherwise, I usually find out about deaths
    through the above mentioned places.

    that seems like a lot of work.
    i'm not talking about family members or someone close. you would have to be one obtuse motherfucker to rely on obituaries to track their deaths.

    I just look on my local newspaper's website for obits.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, January 18, 2024 06:00:49
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Wed Jan 17 2024 11:15 am

    Especially with social media these days, I feel like if it is someone I am close enough to that I really want to know about it, I am going to find out about it through family, friends, a FB post, or sometimes a BBS network post.

    That's my case too. For someone I'm close to, I've always found out through family or friends, via a phone call, text, or social media.


    no no no. i don't think ANYBODY found out about the death of a close person, family or friend via obituary. that's just backwards thinking.

    i'm thinking former teacher, former coworker, people you knew in highschool, etc.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, January 18, 2024 09:35:00
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 04:54 am

    Honestly I'm not sure where I'd look up obituaries here.. I'd probably
    have to Google it.

    that's pretty bad dude. didn't you ever have a family member die?

    If a family member dies, I'm going to hear about it personally from family. Same with a friend, I'm going to hear about it through other friends.

    If one of your family members has died, haven't you been told by family? If your own family doesn't tell you about a family member dying, I'd have to wonder what kind of family that is.

    Having to check obituaries to find out about one of your own close family members is one of the silliest things I've ever heard.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, January 18, 2024 09:36:52
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 06:00 am

    That's my case too. For someone I'm close to, I've always found out
    through family or friends, via a phone call, text, or social media.

    no no no. i don't think ANYBODY found out about the death of a close person, family or friend via obituary. that's just backwards thinking.

    Regarding this, you just wrote to me in another message "haven't you had a family member die?"

    i'm thinking former teacher, former coworker, people you knew in highschool, etc.

    Again, I could do a Google search to find obituaries. I don't know of a central repository of obituaries.. And even then, sometimes I've heard of people like that passing away through other friends.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, January 18, 2024 12:00:51
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Jan 18 2024 09:35 am

    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 04:54 am

    Honestly I'm not sure where I'd look up obituaries here.. I'd probably
    have to Google it.

    that's pretty bad dude. didn't you ever have a family member die?

    If a family member dies, I'm going to hear about it personally from family. Same with a friend, I'm going to hear about it through other friends.

    yeah but if you have a distant family member then you look at the obit. or atleast i do. you would look it up to see if they spelled your name right or whatever.


    havent you had other jobs? havent you wondered what happened to people in highschool? obits are a good way to see if they are dead.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, January 18, 2024 12:01:48
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Jan 18 2024 09:36 am

    That's my case too. For someone I'm close to, I've always found out
    through family or friends, via a phone call, text, or social media.

    no no no. i don't think ANYBODY found out about the death of a

    close
    person, family or friend via obituary. that's just backwards thinking.

    Regarding this, you just wrote to me in another message "haven't you had

    a
    family member die?"
    i assumed people looked at the obit to make sure the info was correct. apparently i have unearthed something.


    Again, I could do a Google search to find obituaries. I don't know of a central repository of obituaries.. And even then, sometimes I've heard of people like that passing away through other friends.

    your newspaper online probably.
    anyways, usa has its shit together.

    i'm trying to find some death notice for this millionaire idiot. he's in canada apparently.

    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
    you know you are old and people are dying.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, January 18, 2024 11:31:00
    I just look on my local newspaper's website for obits.

    That would help for local persons, but few of my users are local enough
    to find them there, and none of my family is (unless I were to list it
    there). My local paper does list some surrounding areas that are even more rural, but I don't think they usually list ones from too far away unless it
    is someone noteworthy.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, January 18, 2024 11:33:00
    I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a
    while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    he probably used a fake name.

    That is what I suspect now.

    i miss my one user lenny of repan, real name charles knaper. I think he passed
    way. he was crazy about usurper and provided jakob with many ideas.
    he was pretty much the life of usurper.

    I miss several of my old users that I lost when I moved back in the late
    1990s. Between the time I moved and when I was able to get telnet working successfully, most of them had stopped BBSing. Most are probably dead now.

    This guy was one of the few who came back. He didn't play doors much, but
    was active in the message areas. He mostly downloaded QWK packets via FTP.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, January 18, 2024 13:05:22
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:00 pm

    havent you had other jobs? havent you wondered what happened to people in highschool? obits are a good way to see if they are dead.

    Normally I search their name online and on social media first. But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, January 18, 2024 13:09:20
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:01 pm

    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries. you know you are old and people are dying.

    I'm 43, and I didn't think that was very old yet.. I just haven't been in the habit of looking up obituaries, or even wondering if my friends or people I've known are dead. And if an acquaintenance of mine is someone I haven't even been in contact with for 20+ years, it's probably not going to make much difference to me anyway. It has been a rare case like this where someone like The Millionaire stopped posting online and I have a passing thought that they may have passed away.

    And I wouldn't say I don't know how to look up obituaries. As I've stated already, I could Google it and find out.

    Nightfox

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Thursday, January 18, 2024 20:30:00
    Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:00 pm

    havent you had other jobs? havent you wondered what happened to people in highschool? obits are a good way to see if they are dead.

    Normally I search their name online and on social media first.
    But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..

    Nor has any other normal person.

    Don't forget who you're having this conversation with. That should
    explain most of it...



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Friday, January 19, 2024 08:06:17
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Jan 18 2024 11:31 am

    I just look on my local newspaper's website for obits.

    That would help for local persons, but few of my users are local enough
    to find them there, and none of my family is (unless I were to list it there). My local paper does list some surrounding areas that are even more rural, but I don't think they usually list ones from too far away unless it is someone noteworthy.



    with me, my 'local paper' is lee enterprises and they are all linked to the other 'local papers' that lee runs.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Friday, January 19, 2024 08:13:04
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Jan 18 2024 01:05 pm


    Normally I search their name online and on social media first. But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..


    well you are in your 40s right? go look up people from your highschool.
    a bunch of them are probably dead.

    the hottest girl in my highschool died this year. she partied hard.
    people i knew died young and i never knew it until years later.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Friday, January 19, 2024 08:14:36
    Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Jan 18 2024 01:09 pm

    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries. you know you are old and people are dying.

    I'm 43, and I didn't think that was very old yet.. I just haven't been in

    that's old.
    the habit of looking up obituaries, or even wondering if my friends or people I've known are dead. And if an acquaintenance of mine is someone I haven't even been in contact with for 20+ years, it's probably not going to make much difference to me anyway. It has been a rare case like this where

    man not only are you autistic, but you are an uncaring psychopath!

    And I wouldn't say I don't know how to look up obituaries. As I've stated already, I could Google it and find out.

    OR, you could use an obituary.
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Nopants on Friday, January 19, 2024 04:08:53
    Re: Hello
    By: Nopants to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 16 2024 08:10 pm

    while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.

    This is how I want to go out.

    Nopants will be a tough obit search.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Friday, January 19, 2024 09:40:00
    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
    you know you are old and people are dying.

    I think we know how... google them... but don't really know what to do if
    we don't find any results.

    My mother was trying to locate one of her aunts a couple of years ago. We
    used to keep in touch with this aunt via my mother's sister, who had since distanced herself from the family.

    The aunt in question had no children for mom to contact, but my mother was
    able to find the retirement community her aunt had been living in via an internet search and called there. She found out that her aunt had been
    dead for about a year.

    Whoever the aunt designated as her contact person had not bothered to let the rest of the family know, and there was no obit to be found. My internet stalker sister was assisting mom in the search so if there had been one to
    find I am sure she'd have found it.

    Sometimes people are going to croak and no one is going to know.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Friday, January 19, 2024 09:43:00
    Normally I search their name online and on social media first.
    But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..

    Nor has any other normal person.

    Don't forget who you're having this conversation with. That should
    explain most of it...

    While that is not the immediate reaction to a lot of people disappearing, I
    can understand it being one when the person in question complained about
    their health as The Millionaire did.

    While not true of all sysops, many are older and/or not very physically
    active, so that might make it a more-likely conclusion to jump to in our
    case. ;)


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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to MRO on Friday, January 19, 2024 14:37:48
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:01 pm

    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
    you know you are old and people are dying.

    This reminded me of a point that I'm surprised needs to regularly be made about information hunting on the internet:

    The data has to actually BE online to be found.

    I know most of us here understand that concept, but it is worth a refresher that not everything is put online, let alone in a searchable format that's actually been indexed by a search engine or is otherwise human readable.

    It's incredible how many people in my life seem to think that literally every bit of information ever is on the internet -- that a simple search should be able to get you anything.

    We know this to be false -- that, quite simply, some information people may want is not available in any meaningful way. It most certainly isn't any different with obits, as other replies have suggested, for a variety of reasons. That can be true, though, of just about any kind of data.

    What I'm getting at is the fact that a blanket thought of just searching obits = absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a person isn't the best methodology...
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Friday, January 19, 2024 14:24:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    Normally I search their name online and on social media first.
    But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..

    Nor has any other normal person.

    Don't forget who you're having this conversation with. That should
    explain most of it...

    While that is not the immediate reaction to a lot of people
    disappearing, I can understand it being one when the person in
    question complained about their health as The Millionaire did.

    Sure, no argument there. But I didn't get the impression that the person
    I was referring to was using it in that context specifically, but in a
    more general fashion.

    While not true of all sysops, many are older and/or not very
    physically active, so that might make it a more-likely conclusion
    to jump to in our case. ;)

    Probably very correct.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, January 20, 2024 08:35:49
    Re: Hello
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Jan 19 2024 09:40 am

    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
    you know you are old and people are dying.

    I think we know how... google them... but don't really know what to do if
    we don't find any results.


    using a search engine isnt knowing how to look up obituaries.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Kurisu on Saturday, January 20, 2024 08:38:52
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to MRO on Fri Jan 19 2024 02:37 pm

    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:01 pm

    i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
    you know you are old and people are dying.

    This reminded me of a point that I'm surprised needs to regularly be made about information hunting on the internet:

    what point? your point?

    I know most of us here understand that concept, but it is worth a refresher that not everything is put online, let alone in a searchable format that's

    everything is fucking put online.

    Re: Hello

    What I'm getting at is the fact that a blanket thought of just searching obits = absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a person isn't the best methodology...

    'blanket thought of just searching obits'

    what?


    obituaries are literally there to see if someone died and when and where.
    you have no points.
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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to MRO on Saturday, January 20, 2024 09:28:51
    Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Kurisu on Sat Jan 20 2024 08:38 am

    So you're just going to be contrarian. Okay, means there's zero conversation to be had on that subject since you're playing the "nuh uh" card but I do want to prove you wrong in one statement.

    everything is fucking put online.

    Okay then, if that statement is true, that "everything is fucking put online" then please identify the type of plant sitting on top of my computer as I type this.

    You won't be able to, as that is an example of something (as in, information) which has not been in any capacity placed online. I've never written about the particular plant on my computer, so without a very lucky guess that I would still have to verify, you simply won't know. The information isn't online, and since that is something which cannot be found online, your statement is fundamnetally false.

    Yeah, that's me being pedantic as fuck, but I did prove your statement wrong via an actual logic chain which can be followed by anyone who's not just being contrarian.

    Now, what does that matter? It still demonstrates what I said: just replace plant on my computer with obituary. One may be published but that doesn't mean it does get put online -- there is nothing which universarlly forces such inforamtion to be placed in some way your or I could trivially access via a simple google search, as your original statement implied.

    ....

    Ironically, something like find a grave may actually prove a better way to check a living or dead status since if the grave was documented there it's pretty open-shut case that the person is considered deceased, and the requirements for such are simply for someone to have been to a graveyard, documented that grave existing, and get it published to the site, which can happen at seemingly any time and not some little window immediately after death.

    But even precluding that, there are no obits for some of my own family members dying. Does that mean they are alive, still? Again, your entire point was "google it" which just doesn't work if the info isn't there.

    Again, though, I've given this too much of a reply because, again, you simply wish to be contrarian. That's fine, you do you. TBH for every time I've seen your posts and been like "what the fuck bro" you've also posted things I fully agree with so it's just the way it is.

    :)
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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to The Lizard Master on Saturday, January 20, 2024 08:46:00
    Re: Hello
    By: The Lizard Master to Nopants on Fri Jan 19 2024 04:08 am

    Nopants will be a tough obit search.

    Tell me about it. My guess is that it would be EASIER to identify someone with just a T-shirt on.

    https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending-now/man-wearing-no-pants-dies-after-rampage -at-whataburger/877889688/


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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Kurisu on Saturday, January 20, 2024 09:04:00
    Re: Hello
    By: Kurisu to MRO on Fri Jan 19 2024 02:37 pm

    just searching obits absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a person isn't the best methodology...

    That's why I recommended a chant that goes "Hands vermillion, start of five. Bright cotillion, raven's dive. Nightshade's promise, spirits strive. To the living let now the dead come alive."

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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Gamgee on Saturday, January 20, 2024 09:08:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Gamgee to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 19 2024 02:24 pm

    While not true of all sysops, many are older and/or not very
    physically active, so that might make it a more-likely conclusion
    to jump to in our case. ;)

    Probably very correct.

    Oh man. I always assumed Sysops to be sexy MF smart-throbs, no? Image ruined.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Nopants on Saturday, January 20, 2024 15:24:43
    Re: Hello
    By: Nopants to Kurisu on Sat Jan 20 2024 09:04 am

    just searching obits absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a
    person isn't the best methodology...

    That's why I recommended a chant that goes "Hands vermillion, start of five. Bright cotillion, raven's dive. Nightshade's promise, spirits strive. To the living let now the dead come alive."

    #beetlejuice

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nopants on Sunday, January 21, 2024 10:07:00
    Nopants wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Oh man. I always assumed Sysops to be sexy MF smart-throbs, no? Image ruined.

    I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as
    well?



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Sunday, January 21, 2024 10:07:00
    Nightfox wrote to Nopants <=-

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, January 21, 2024 12:40:42
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sun Jan 21 2024 10:07 am

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice

    Nightfox

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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Nightfox on Sunday, January 21, 2024 18:49:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 21 2024 12:40 pm

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sun Jan 21 2024 10:07 am

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice

    Attention K-Mart shoppers


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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sunday, January 21, 2024 20:43:43
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 21 2024 12:40 pm

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice

    #beetlejuice

    Its Showtime!

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, January 26, 2024 04:09:00
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nopants on Sun Jan 21 2024 10:07 am

    ruined.

    I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as
    well?

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Lizard Master on Friday, January 26, 2024 09:39:41
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: The Lizard Master to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 26 2024 04:09 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nopants on Sun Jan 21 2024 10:07 am

    ruined.

    I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as
    well?

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined

    that looks like a good url to me.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Lizard Master on Friday, January 26, 2024 10:01:09
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: The Lizard Master to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 26 2024 04:09 am

    I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as well?

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined

    That doesn't look like a valid URL to me..?

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, January 29, 2024 07:34:08
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to The Lizard Master on Fri Jan 26 2024 10:01 am

    I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as well?

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined


    not surprised considering the source.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Monday, January 29, 2024 09:11:49
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2024 07:34 am

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined

    not surprised considering the source.

    Why are you responding to me? I didn't write what you quoted.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, January 29, 2024 13:07:40
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Jan 29 2024 09:11 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2024 07:34 am

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined

    not surprised considering the source.

    Why are you responding to me? I didn't write what you quoted.


    yeah i didnt hit enter for the last line.
    yes i was responding to you.

    " TL> https://imgur.com/undefined

    That doesn't look like a valid URL to me..?

    Nightfox "
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Nightfox on Monday, January 29, 2024 06:15:36
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: Nightfox to The Lizard Master on Fri Jan 26 2024 10:01 am

    I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as well?

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined

    That doesn't look like a valid URL to me..?

    You know I used the copy url link in imgur and didn't even look at it lol.

    I asked again and the results were not as great -

    https://imgur.com/g0CJHgH

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to MRO on Monday, January 29, 2024 06:16:56
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2024 07:34 am

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined


    not surprised considering the source.

    It's all the vaccines I've taken eating my brain.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Lizard Master on Monday, January 29, 2024 17:37:46
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: The Lizard Master to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2024 06:15 am

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    You know I used the copy url link in imgur and didn't even look at it lol.

    I asked again and the results were not as great -

    https://imgur.com/g0CJHgH


    he has no legs, extra fingers and his ear buds arent even in his ears.
    and people think AI will take over everything.
    so far it's just good at doing joe biden
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Lizard Master on Monday, January 29, 2024 17:58:20
    Re: Re: Hello
    By: The Lizard Master to MRO on Mon Jan 29 2024 06:16 am

    Re: Re: Hello
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2024 07:34 am

    I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?

    https://imgur.com/undefined


    not surprised considering the source.

    It's all the vaccines I've taken eating my brain.

    should have got the tripple booster. we're all in this together
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