• James Bond update

    From The Millionaire@VERT to All on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 03:40:41
    James Bond: No Time To Die will be delayed until November 25, 2020.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to All on Sunday, September 06, 2020 19:01:53
    James Bond: No Time To Die will be delayed until November 25, 2020.

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    2 more months till the new James Bond is released.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Sunday, September 06, 2020 19:38:45
    Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to All on Sun Sep 06 2020 07:01 pm

    2 more months till the new James Bond is released.

    And?

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Sunday, September 06, 2020 20:07:29
    Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to All on Sun Sep 06 2020 07:01 pm

    And?

    Nightfox

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    I just wrote the whole info in one sentence.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Sunday, September 06, 2020 22:39:00
    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    James Bond: No Time To Die will be delayed until November 25, 2020.

    2 more months till the new James Bond is released.

    November 25 is quite a bit more than 2 months ahead.

    Also - nobody cares.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Gamgee on Monday, September 07, 2020 04:02:38
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Sun Sep 06 2020 10:39 pm

    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    James Bond: No Time To Die will be delayed until November 25, 2020.

    2 more months till the new James Bond is released.

    November 25 is quite a bit more than 2 months ahead.

    Also - nobody cares.



    ... Can you tell me how to get, how to get to Sesame Street?

    I remember there was a time when I would get excited for the release of films from beloved franchises.

    Now I have realized recent releases are total crap and I am not excited anymore.

    So let me join the "Nobody cares" chir.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Arelor on Monday, September 07, 2020 05:40:39
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Sun Sep 06 2020 10:39 pm

    I remember there was a time when I would get excited for the release of films from beloved franchises.

    Now I have realized recent releases are total crap and I am not excited anymore.

    So let me join the "Nobody cares" chir.

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    I would have to agree with you on this statement, There are a lot of crappy movies nowadays. These are a list of movies I've seen that weren't that
    great in the past few years:

    Maggie
    Aftermath
    Killing Gunther
    Terminator: Dark Fate
    The Commuter
    F8 aka Fast And The Furious 8
    Bad Boys For Life
    Bill And Ted Face The Music
    You Should Have Left

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Arelor on Monday, September 07, 2020 05:55:04
    Oh I also forgot to add to the list:

    John Wick 2
    John Wick 3

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Monday, September 07, 2020 09:19:00
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Mon Sep 07 2020 04:02 am

    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Sun Sep 06 2020 10:39 pm

    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    James Bond: No Time To Die will be delayed until November 25, 2020.

    2 more months till the new James Bond is released.

    November 25 is quite a bit more than 2 months ahead.

    Also - nobody cares.



    ... Can you tell me how to get, how to get to Sesame Street?

    I remember there was a time when I would get excited for the release of film from beloved franchises.

    Now I have realized recent releases are total crap and I am not excited anymore.

    So let me join the "Nobody cares" chir.

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    I haven't been impressed that much by the Daniel Craig Bond films. Maybe if
    I hadn't become so adjusted to the slightly campy adventure of the old Bond films, I could like them.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to The Millionaire on Monday, September 07, 2020 11:02:25
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Arelor on Mon Sep 07 2020 05:55 am

    Oh I also forgot to add to the list:

    John Wick 2
    John Wick 3

    Both were excellent films. Keanu is a goddamn treasure.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Monday, September 07, 2020 10:32:24
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Arelor on Mon Sep 07 2020 05:40 am

    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Sun Sep 06 2020 10:39 pm

    I remember there was a time when I would get excited for the release of fi from beloved franchises.

    Now I have realized recent releases are total crap and I am not excited anymore.

    So let me join the "Nobody cares" chir.

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    I would have to agree with you on this statement, There are a lot of crappy movies nowadays. These are a list of movies I've seen that weren't that great in the past few years:

    Maggie
    Aftermath
    Killing Gunther
    Terminator: Dark Fate
    The Commuter
    F8 aka Fast And The Furious 8
    Bad Boys For Life
    Bill And Ted Face The Music
    You Should Have Left

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    Well, Terminator: Dark Fate is an special case because it is a reboot without a rebooot.

    It is not a reboot in that it officially continues the timeline from the two first films, but they turn the plot in order to have a new cast of heroes and
    a new enemy, while doing a general plot that is essentially the same as the old films.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to DaiTengu on Monday, September 07, 2020 11:51:05
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Arelor on Mon Sep 07 2020 05:55 am

    Both were excellent films. Keanu is a goddamn treasure.

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    No doubt Keanu was great but the storyline lacked story and gained a vast amount of action.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Moondog on Monday, September 07, 2020 11:52:54
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Mon Sep 07 2020 04:02 am

    I haven't been impressed that much by the Daniel Craig Bond films. Maybe if I hadn't become so adjusted to the slightly campy adventure of the old Bond films, I could like them.

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    Only Skyfall was his greatest endeavour. The rest was pretty much a waste of film.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Monday, September 07, 2020 12:00:30
    Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sun Sep 06 2020 08:07 pm

    And?

    I just wrote the whole info in one sentence.

    I was just wondering if you had anything else to say about it. There must be some reason you're announcing a movie release to everyone on Dove-Net?

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Monday, September 07, 2020 12:02:31
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Arelor on Mon Sep 07 2020 05:40 am

    crappy movies nowadays. These are a list of movies I've seen that weren't that great in the past few years:

    Bill And Ted Face The Music

    I saw the new Bill & Ted movie, and I think those are the type of movies you just have to take them for what it's worth. I enjoyed it. I thought it was about what you could expect from them.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to DaiTengu on Monday, September 07, 2020 12:03:03
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: DaiTengu to The Millionaire on Mon Sep 07 2020 11:02 am

    John Wick 2
    John Wick 3

    Both were excellent films. Keanu is a goddamn treasure.

    Yep. I watched all 3 John Wick movies months ago, and I enjoyed them.

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, September 07, 2020 13:08:31
    Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sun Sep 06 2020 08:07 pm

    I was just wondering if you had anything else to say about it. There must be some reason you're announcing a movie release to everyone on Dove-Net?

    Nightfox

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    Just getting pumped up for November 20th now. Date was pushed up 5 days earlier compared to my orig post.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, September 07, 2020 13:09:32
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Arelor on Mon Sep 07 2020 05:40 am

    I saw the new Bill & Ted movie, and I think those are the type of movies you just have to take them for what it's worth. I enjoyed it. I thought it was about what you could expect from them.

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    IMOO the excellent adventure was the best one of all.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, September 07, 2020 13:10:47
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: DaiTengu to The Millionaire on Mon Sep 07 2020 11:02 am

    Yep. I watched all 3 John Wick movies months ago, and I enjoyed them.

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    I liked John Wick the best.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Arelor on Monday, September 07, 2020 15:30:00
    Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I remember there was a time when I would get excited for the release of films from beloved franchises.

    Now I have realized recent releases are total crap and I am not excited anymore.

    So let me join the "Nobody cares" chir.

    "Nobody cares! Nobody cares! Nobody cares!"

    How's that for a choir?

    But I completely agree: Hollywood and the Woke morons have completely destroyed many old series.

    In related news: I just heard that Disney's live remake of Mulan has flopped so hard that the earthquake detectors felt it.
    Just another casuality of over-long copyrights and Woke Morons. Couldn't happen to a nicer company (after they ruined
    Star Trek, Star Wars, etc.).


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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Dr. What on Monday, September 07, 2020 13:40:04
    Well if things don't get better in Hollywood, then it's the end of the
    movie industry.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Monday, September 07, 2020 14:56:31
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Mon Sep 07 2020 09:19 am

    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Mon Sep 07 2020 04:02 am

    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Sun Sep 06 2020 10:39 pm

    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    James Bond: No Time To Die will be delayed until November 25, 2020.

    2 more months till the new James Bond is released.

    November 25 is quite a bit more than 2 months ahead.

    Also - nobody cares.



    ... Can you tell me how to get, how to get to Sesame Street?

    I remember there was a time when I would get excited for the release of f from beloved franchises.

    Now I have realized recent releases are total crap and I am not excited anymore.

    So let me join the "Nobody cares" chir.

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    I haven't been impressed that much by the Daniel Craig Bond films. Maybe if I hadn't become so adjusted to the slightly campy adventure of the old Bond films, I could like them.


    Same here.

    It is not that I dislike Daniel Craig, but plot wise they were no good. Also, the one with Bardem... I don't know what happens with Bardem, but every time he pops up in a film it is a film I don't get to like.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Monday, September 07, 2020 16:43:34
    Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Sep 07 2020 01:08 pm

    Just getting pumped up for November 20th now. Date was pushed up 5 days earlier compared to my orig post.

    I wasn't sure if I liked Daniel Craig as James Bond, but maybe I'll give this one a watch.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Monday, September 07, 2020 16:43:56
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Sep 07 2020 01:09 pm

    IMOO the excellent adventure was the best one of all.

    Yeah, I really liked that one. Recently it was released in 4K in the UK, but not in the US.. :(

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Monday, September 07, 2020 16:45:22
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Dr. What on Mon Sep 07 2020 01:40 pm

    Well if things don't get better in Hollywood, then it's the end of the movie industry.

    What's wrong in Hollywood?

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, September 07, 2020 19:04:04
    Lots. They are trying to reignite.the industry slowly back and streaming and vod services are starting trouble with the theatres.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Nightfox on Monday, September 07, 2020 20:41:27
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Mon Sep 07 2020 12:02 pm

    crappy movies nowadays. These are a list of movies I've seen that
    weren't that great in the past few years:

    Bill And Ted Face The Music

    I saw the new Bill & Ted movie, and I think those are the type of movies you just have to take them for what it's worth. I enjoyed it. I thought it was about what you could expect from them.


    It was cheesy. it was campy. it was funny. Exactly what you would expect for that kind of film, and judging it on those merits, it is a quality production for that genre.

    It's like judging a breed of dog. You don't judge a rottweiler against a lhasa apso. You judge them against their category, and how well they stand out against films in that category.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to The Millionaire on Monday, September 07, 2020 20:43:22
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Sep 07 2020 01:09 pm

    IMOO the excellent adventure was the best one of all.

    Why?

    What was better about it?



    FFS, expand upon your posts. go into detail.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Monday, September 07, 2020 20:05:00
    Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    And?

    I just wrote the whole info in one sentence.

    I was just wondering if you had anything else to say about it.
    There must be some reason you're announcing a movie release to
    everyone on Dove-Net?

    1. He thinks he's providing some kind of a "valuable service"
    to others by doing it (as if only he is privy to such secret
    information).

    2. He just likes to hear himself talk.

    I honestly don't know which is correct.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Monday, September 07, 2020 20:07:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Well if things don't get better in Hollywood, then it's the end
    of the movie industry.

    Hopefully!



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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to DaiTengu on Monday, September 07, 2020 20:42:44
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Sep 07 2020 01:09 pm

    Why?

    What was better about it?

    FFS, expand upon your posts. go into detail.

    DaiTengu

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    Better storyline, better jokes, better acting, better directing.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Gamgee on Monday, September 07, 2020 20:44:34
    I just like to start conversations and build upon them at the same time.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Monday, September 07, 2020 22:10:31
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Sep 07 2020 07:04 pm

    Lots. They are trying to reignite.the industry slowly back and streaming and vod services are starting trouble with the theatres.

    I didn't know the movie industry needed reigniting. Seemed like they were still doing fairly well. Theaters are only shut down right now due to covid.. Online streaming was doing well even before covid. Do you know of other examples where Hollywood isn't doing very well?

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dr. What on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 03:18:56
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Dr. What to Arelor on Mon Sep 07 2020 03:30 pm

    But I completely agree: Hollywood and the Woke morons have completely destroyed many old series.

    In related news: I just heard that Disney's live remake of Mulan has flopped hard that the earthquake detectors felt it.
    Just another casuality of over-long copyrights and Woke Morons. Couldn't happen to a nicer company (after they ruined
    Star Trek, Star Wars, etc.).

    Yu know, I was sent a prank message that read: "This is what the new
    inclusive live version of Mulan looks like!"

    The message featured a picture of a big, muscled black dude. It had a caption that said: Mulano.

    And yes I have heard it went so bad they are releasing it for free on Disney+ hahaha. Actually a bit sad since it had Donnin Yen (whose kung-fu is always fun to watch) and that hot chick from The Forbidden Kingdom.

    I dind't know Disney had Borged Star Trek too. It makes sense. The last I watched had a very PC vibe to it. "We are not military, we are explorers!". Jeeeeeeeesus, that is why Enterprise had shields and a shitton of photonic torpedos and phasers, because they were a pleassure yatch.


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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Arelor on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 07:04:38
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Dr. What to Arelor on Mon Sep 07 2020 03:30 pm

    Yu know, I was sent a prank message that read: "This is what the new inclusive live version of Mulan looks like!"

    The message featured a picture of a big, muscled black dude. It had a caption that said: Mulano.

    And yes I have heard it went so bad they are releasing it for free on Disney+ hahaha. Actually a bit sad since it had Donnin Yen (whose kung-fu is always fun to watch) and that hot chick from The Forbidden Kingdom.

    I dind't know Disney had Borged Star Trek too. It makes sense. The last I watched had a very PC vibe to it. "We are not military, we are explorers!". Jeeeeeeeesus, that is why Enterprise had shields and a shitton of photonic torpedos and phasers, because they were a pleassure yatch.

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    One day Disney will own everything. Anything with special effects that is.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Arelor on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 07:09:04
    Netflix wanted to purchase the James Bond catalog from MGM. No dice. MGM claims that's their baby and what's keeping them afloat and they're not for sale
    to no one even if the price is right. MGM said they can purchase anything else they want though.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to The Millionaire on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 10:07:59
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to DaiTengu on Mon Sep 07 2020 08:42 pm

    Why?

    What was better about it?

    FFS, expand upon your posts. go into detail.

    Better storyline, better jokes, better acting, better directing.


    Alex Winter has been out of the acting game for decades, but I thought he did a spot-on job of playing Bill, just like he did 30 years ago. Keanu was Keanu, and it was great. He Keanu'd the heck out of that role.

    The characters are supposed to be dumb, cheesy, and somewhat poorly acted.

    Brigette Lundy-Paine and Samara Weaving did bang-up jobs as Bill and Ted's daughters (respectively). They managed to take on the aspects of their respective parents, but not become gender-bent charicatures of them.

    I thought Dean Pariscot did an excellent job directing. He also directed Galaxy Quest, which is one of my favorite all-time films.

    All in all, I was not disapointed in the least.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Moondog on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 13:41:21
    On 9/7/2020 6:19 AM, Moondog wrote:
    I haven't been impressed that much by the Daniel Craig Bond films. Maybe if I hadn't become so adjusted to the slightly campy adventure of the old Bond films, I could like them.

    They're actually my favorite... I was never much into the campiness of
    the older ones. I hated most of the Roger Moore bond movies in particular.

    I'm not sure how I'm going to feel about the next one, if it's anything
    like the latest Dr. Who has been, I won't be watching the followups.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to The Millionaire on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 13:44:30
    On 9/8/2020 7:09 AM, The Millionaire wrote:
    Netflix wanted to purchase the James Bond catalog from MGM. No dice. MGM claims
    that's their baby and what's keeping them afloat and they're not for sale
    to no one even if the price is right. MGM said they can purchase anything else
    they want though.

    Maybe someone will buy Stargate already... MGM has sat on it for too
    long now.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to DaiTengu on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 23:48:00
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: DaiTengu to The Millionaire on Mon Sep 07 2020 11:02 am

    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: The Millionaire to Arelor on Mon Sep 07 2020 05:55 am

    Oh I also forgot to add to the list:

    John Wick 2
    John Wick 3

    Both were excellent films. Keanu is a goddamn treasure.

    DaiTengu

    ... There is no such thing as justice - in or out of court.

    Last April at the NRAAMM in Indy Brownells and Sig had an exhibit showing the actual guns used in John Wick 3. In the case was Halle Barry's custom 365's and John's MPX. Wick's other handguns were over at Taran Tactical's booth.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Tracker1 on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 05:38:55
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Tracker1 to Moondog on Tue Sep 08 2020 01:41 pm

    They're actually my favorite... I was never much into the campiness of
    the older ones. I hated most of the Roger Moore bond movies in particular.

    Well, Roger Moore was Roger Moore... I liked his films but I recognize he was a bit silly and not for everybody.

    Hell I think he is the only one who had incarnated James Bond while dressing as an actual clown.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to The Millionaire on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 09:16:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Well if things don't get better in Hollywood, then it's the end of the movie industry.

    It's already happening.

    1. Poor content.
    2. COVID closed theaters for a while.
    3. Streaming platforms getting political and removing content that the mob doesn't like - which tends to piss off people who have money to pay for such services.

    I haven't seen a movie in a theater in over a year.
    The TV's been off since April.

    I don't feel like I've missed anything.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Arelor on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 09:20:00
    Arelor wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yu know, I was sent a prank message that read: "This is what the new inclusive live version of Mulan looks like!"

    The message featured a picture of a big, muscled black dude. It had a caption that said: Mulano.

    Good one!

    And yes I have heard it went so bad they are releasing it for free on Disney+ hahaha. Actually a bit sad since it had Donnin Yen (whose
    kung-fu is always fun to watch) and that hot chick from The Forbidden Kingdom.

    Aw. Man. Now I *want* to watch Mulan. I love the old Donnie Yen movies and
    I enjoyed Forbidden Kingdom.

    But it's probably for the best that I don't watch it. I don't want to taint
    my memories of the actors when I watch their good movies.

    I dind't know Disney had Borged Star Trek too. It makes sense. The last
    I watched had a very PC vibe to it. "We are not military, we are explorers!". Jeeeeeeeesus, that is why Enterprise had shields and a shitton of photonic torpedos and phasers, because they were a pleassure yatch.

    Ya, Star Trek was supposed to have that Heinlein vibe. They were explorers, but they needed military disipline to not die in space.

    But the PC crowd doesn't like the ideas of discipline (well, not in *this* context) and self-control.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Tracker1 on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 08:22:19
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Tracker1 to Moondog on Tue Sep 08 2020 01:41 pm

    I haven't been impressed that much by the Daniel Craig Bond films.
    Maybe if I hadn't become so adjusted to the slightly campy adventure
    of the old Bond films, I could like them.

    They're actually my favorite... I was never much into the campiness of the older ones. I hated most of the Roger Moore bond movies in particular.

    I've heard many people liked Roger Moore as James Bond. I don't remember if I've seen his Bond movies though - maybe just parts. My favorite was Pierse Brosnan.

    Nightfox

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 10:56:10
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Dr. What to Arelor on Wed Sep 09 2020 09:20 am

    And yes I have heard it went so bad they are releasing it for free
    on Disney+ hahaha. Actually a bit sad since it had Donnin Yen (whose
    kung-fu is always fun to watch) and that hot chick from The
    Forbidden Kingdom.

    Aw. Man. Now I *want* to watch Mulan. I love the old Donnie Yen movies and I enjoyed Forbidden Kingdom.

    It's not free, It's an extra $30 or something on top of your Disney+ subscription. And it's not because things "went poorly" it's because that's how movies are being released now.


    I dind't know Disney had Borged Star Trek too. It makes sense. The
    last I watched had a very PC vibe to it. "We are not military, we
    are explorers!". Jeeeeeeeesus, that is why Enterprise had shields
    and a shitton of photonic torpedos and phasers, because they were a
    pleassure yatch.

    Ya, Star Trek was supposed to have that Heinlein vibe. They were explorers, but they needed military disipline to not die in space.

    But the PC crowd doesn't like the ideas of discipline (well, not in *this* context) and self-control.

    1. Disney doesn't own Star Trek.
    2. You're whining about modern trek not being militarized enough? are you fucking serious? Watching modern Trek is like watching an action flick. The last episode of Season 2 of Discovery was an hour long giant space battle that put anything BSG ever did to shame.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Arelor on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 08:56:46
    Looking forward to the new Bond, Billie Eilish does the theme song, Remi Malek looks AMAZING as the villain.

    As for not getting excited about movies. The only thing that hasn't gotten me excited for movies is the fact that my HDTV's Tcom board is failing, and I need to fix it (netflix done killed my tv).

    Tenent I still need to see. I enjoyed Bill and Ted 3 (though I thought it not as good as people made it out to be, but I'm glad it's doing well).

    I think I mostly miss the popcorn and sticky floors.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dr. What on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 12:28:07
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Dr. What to Arelor on Wed Sep 09 2020 09:20 am

    I dind't know Disney had Borged Star Trek too. It makes sense. The last I watched had a very PC vibe to it. "We are not military, we are explorers!". Jeeeeeeeesus, that is why Enterprise had shields and a shitton of photonic torpedos and phasers, because they were a pleassure yatch.

    Ya, Star Trek was supposed to have that Heinlein vibe. They were explorers, but they needed military disipline to not die in space.

    But the PC crowd doesn't like the ideas of discipline (well, not in *this* context) and self-control.

    As far as I know, the original Star Trek film had Enterprise be retired because the Federation signed Peace with the Klingons.

    My case is settled

    For the record, they also had this anti-militaristic vibe in Pacific Rhim. The movie makers wanted to make clear that the heroes were "rangers" and thus they didn't use military ranks. Because movilizing the biggest war machines in human history in order to defeat alien invaders is not what military organizations do.

    The movie was fun but god it was B-like plotted.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to DaiTengu on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 12:31:28
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Wed Sep 09 2020 10:56 am

    It's not free, It's an extra $30 or something on top of your Disney+ subscription. And it's not because things "went poorly" it's because that's how movies are being released now.

    Last thing I have heard is they removed the 30 usd extra.

    I don't know about the ST series, but in the last film of the reboot, they made it very clear that the Enterprise is not a military ship, with Kirk getting angry when such thing was suggested. "We are not going in a military mission" etc etc etc.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Android8675 on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 12:37:29
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Android8675 to Arelor on Wed Sep 09 2020 08:56 am

    I think I mostly miss the popcorn and sticky floors.

    "Cinemuck"

    Nightfox

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 12:48:37
    On 9/9/2020 8:22 AM, Nightfox wrote:
    I haven't been impressed that much by the Daniel Craig Bond films.
    Maybe if I hadn't become so adjusted to the slightly campy adventure
    of the old Bond films, I could like them.

    They're actually my favorite... I was never much into the campiness of
    the older ones. I hated most of the Roger Moore bond movies in particular.

    I've heard many people liked Roger Moore as James Bond. I don't remember if I've seen his Bond movies though - maybe just parts. My favorite was Pierse Brosnan.

    Brosnan was okay. "No, no, no. No more forplay." I still prefer Craig.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to DaiTengu on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 12:54:17
    On 9/9/2020 8:56 AM, DaiTengu wrote:
    1. Disney doesn't own Star Trek.
    2. You're whining about modern trek not being militarized enough? are you fucking serious? Watching modern Trek is like watching an action flick. The last episode of Season 2 of Discovery was an hour long giant space battle that put anything BSG ever did to shame.

    Discovery doesn't really "feel" like Star Trek to me. Season 2 was
    definitely an improvement, and I do hope they make the "Brave New World" series with Pike. I do think that CBS needs to just re-visit what
    they're doing and get some legacy producers and writers back in the fold.

    I actually enjoyed the Kelvin movies. That said, "The Orville" feels
    more like Star Trek than anything coming out of Paramount or CBS lately.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Tracker1 on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 14:15:20
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:54 pm

    Discovery doesn't really "feel" like Star Trek to me. Season 2 was definitely an improvement, and I do hope they make the "Brave New World" series with Pike. I do think that CBS needs to just re-visit what
    they're doing and get some legacy producers and writers back in the fold.

    Discovery is different. I'm curious to see what they will do in season 3.

    I enjoyed Picard more than Discovery.

    I actually enjoyed the Kelvin movies. That said, "The Orville" feels
    more like Star Trek than anything coming out of Paramount or CBS lately.

    I thought the Kelvin movies were fun to watch, but in general, I haven't been a big fan of where they've gone with the reboots and prequels. I liked that they decided to do something more 'current' with the Star Trek universe, with Picard. But I've always thought it would be interesting to see a movie or TV series based on the Enterprise B or C, since we never saw much of those.

    I like The Orville too.

    Nightfox

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Arelor on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 16:12:05
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:31 pm

    It's not free, It's an extra $30 or something on top of your Disney+
    subscription. And it's not because things "went poorly" it's because
    that's how movies are being released now.

    Last thing I have heard is they removed the 30 usd extra.

    I don't know about the ST series, but in the last film of the reboot, they made it very clear that the Enterprise is not a military ship, with Kirk getting angry when such thing was suggested. "We are not going in a military mission" etc etc etc.

    Star Trek has never been an organization for war, the whole show was always about exploration. "To boldly go where no one has gone before" right there from the first episode.

    DaiTengu

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Tracker1 on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 16:20:52
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:54 pm

    On 9/9/2020 8:56 AM, DaiTengu wrote:
    1. Disney doesn't own Star Trek.
    2. You're whining about modern trek not being militarized enough? are
    you fucking serious? Watching modern Trek is like watching an action
    flick. The last episode of Season 2 of Discovery was an hour long
    giant space battle that put anything BSG ever did to shame.

    Discovery doesn't really "feel" like Star Trek to me. Season 2 was definitely an improvement, and I do hope they make the "Brave New World" series with Pike. I do think that CBS needs to just re-visit what
    they're doing and get some legacy producers and writers back in the fold.

    I think Discovery and Picard's "feel" has more to do with how television is consumed now days. Deep Space Nine really pioneered the whole serialized story thing, Enterprise ramped it up a bit, but now with streaming services and binge-watching, all anyone cares about is serialized shows. Things like Black Mirror stand out partially because they're stand-alone stories.

    I'm really digging Lower Decks. It's smart, funny, and definitely has a TNG feel to it.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Tracker1 on Thursday, September 10, 2020 02:43:34
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:48 pm

    On 9/9/2020 8:22 AM, Nightfox wrote:
    I haven't been impressed that much by the Daniel Craig Bond films.
    Maybe if I hadn't become so adjusted to the slightly campy adventure
    of the old Bond films, I could like them.

    They're actually my favorite... I was never much into the campiness of
    the older ones. I hated most of the Roger Moore bond movies in particular

    I've heard many people liked Roger Moore as James Bond. I don't remember I've seen his Bond movies though - maybe just parts. My favorite was Pier Brosnan.

    Brosnan was okay. "No, no, no. No more forplay." I still prefer Craig.

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    I liked Brosnan for the role too. And he did some great films too.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to DaiTengu on Thursday, September 10, 2020 02:46:58
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: DaiTengu to Tracker1 on Wed Sep 09 2020 04:20 pm

    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:54 pm

    On 9/9/2020 8:56 AM, DaiTengu wrote:
    1. Disney doesn't own Star Trek.
    2. You're whining about modern trek not being militarized enough? are
    you fucking serious? Watching modern Trek is like watching an action
    flick. The last episode of Season 2 of Discovery was an hour long
    giant space battle that put anything BSG ever did to shame.

    Discovery doesn't really "feel" like Star Trek to me. Season 2 was definitely an improvement, and I do hope they make the "Brave New World series with Pike. I do think that CBS needs to just re-visit what they're doing and get some legacy producers and writers back in the fol

    I think Discovery and Picard's "feel" has more to do with how television i consumed now days. Deep Space Nine really pioneered the whole serialized st thing, Enterprise ramped it up a bit, but now with streaming services and binge-watching, all anyone cares about is serialized shows. Things like Bla Mirror stand out partially because they're stand-alone stories.

    I'm really digging Lower Decks. It's smart, funny, and definitely has a TNG feel to it.

    DaiTengu

    ... Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't.


    I don't know, I think there is a lot of room for standalones. My Little Pony FiM, for example, was very successful and, while it features a metaplot, its episodes are... episodic in nature.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Thursday, September 10, 2020 01:16:00
    Re: Films that go political a
    By: Arelor to Dr. What on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:28 pm



    As far as I know, the original Star Trek film had Enterprise be retired beca the Federation signed Peace with the Klingons.

    My case is settled

    For the record, they also had this anti-militaristic vibe in Pacific Rhim. T movie makers wanted to make clear that the heroes were "rangers" and thus th didn't use military ranks. Because movilizing the biggest war machines in hu history in order to defeat alien invaders is not what military organizations do.

    The movie was fun but god it was B-like plotted.


    In the animated series and books there was mention of the Organian Treaty,
    and maybe once or twice mentioned on TOS. the Organians upon first contact appeared to be a passive species whose civilization had ceased growing, and ha d no offensive or defensive weapons, nor did they respond to bullying or violence. They were in fact so advanced they no longer needed corporial
    bodies or structures to live in, and could wipe out the Federation and
    Klingons with a single thought. Funny thing, because they themselves said threats don't resolve anything, however they were able to get the Federation and Klingon Empire to sign a treaty through a threat to wipe them both out.

    The Enterprise was not decomissioned due to the treaty. It was out of comission after completing it's five year mission. Between Kirk and Pike,
    the Enterprise NCC-1701 had to be over 20 years old. I'm assuming this
    based on the 2 part Menagerie episode, where they re-used The Cage footage
    to create events from 18 years earlier. The ship was due for a refit.

    Imagine being trained at Starfleeet on cutting edge navigation and
    engineering systems, then find yourself assigned to a 25 year old vessel that hasn't been refit with modern systems? I had a friend who served on the USS Carl Vinson, and he too had been trained on the latest systems in the late 1980's, then found himself maintaining controls and instrumentation systems installed during the late 1960's. Another buddy studied electronic in the Arm y, and the instructor passed over vacuum tubes because he said the techs
    would never see one in the field. The first thing he ran into after AIT was
    a tube driven PA system!

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Tracker1 on Thursday, September 10, 2020 01:29:00
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:48 pm

    On 9/9/2020 8:22 AM, Nightfox wrote:
    I haven't been impressed that much by the Daniel Craig Bond films.
    Maybe if I hadn't become so adjusted to the slightly campy adventure
    of the old Bond films, I could like them.

    They're actually my favorite... I was never much into the campiness of
    the older ones. I hated most of the Roger Moore bond movies in particular

    I've heard many people liked Roger Moore as James Bond. I don't remember

    Brosnan was okay. "No, no, no. No more forplay." I still prefer Craig.

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    Lazenbyhad a good chance to become a greta Bond if he hadn't pissed off the producer by not keeping up his appearance in between films. After his first film he grew his hair out and grew a beard, and wasn't recognizable at press conferences. To originally get the role he went to Connery's barber and
    tailor to achieve the look. Since he was a male model before getting into acting, Broccoli was afraid he was gay, and hired prostitutes to
    flirt with him at bars to see what he would do. He was getting so much
    action, he wished he would've become an actor much sooner!

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Tracker1 on Thursday, September 10, 2020 01:37:00
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:54 pm

    On 9/9/2020 8:56 AM, DaiTengu wrote:
    1. Disney doesn't own Star Trek.
    2. You're whining about modern trek not being militarized enough? are yo
    er did to shame.

    Discovery doesn't really "feel" like Star Trek to me. Season 2 was definitely an improvement, and I do hope they make the "Brave New World" series with Pike. I do think that CBS needs to just re-visit what
    they're doing and get some legacy producers and writers back in the fold.

    I actually enjoyed the Kelvin movies. That said, "The Orville" feels
    more like Star Trek than anything coming out of Paramount or CBS lately.

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    Did I hear correctly that the Orville series has been dropped after this next season? I guess Lower Decks will have to pick up the absence of Trek humor.

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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to Moondog on Thursday, September 10, 2020 04:45:17
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Moondog to Tracker1 on Thu Sep 10 2020 01:37 am

    Did I hear correctly that the Orville series has been dropped after this next season? I guess Lower Decks will have to pick up the absence of Trek humor.

    I sure hope not. That would make me very sad.
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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Tracker1 on Thursday, September 10, 2020 07:08:44
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:48 pm

    Brosnan was okay. "No, no, no. No more forplay." I still prefer Craig.

    Favorite Craig flick? I really enjoyed Casino Royale, the poker scene was well done. I live for that stuff.

    I've always been a Q fan as well, the new Quartermaster I think is amazingly played. I really can't wait for this film. I've always had a soft spot for James Bond flicks.

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Tracker1 on Thursday, September 10, 2020 07:10:56
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:54 pm

    Discovery doesn't really "feel" like Star Trek to me. Season 2 was definitely an improvement, and I do hope they make the "Brave New World" series with Pike. I do think that CBS needs to just re-visit what
    they're doing and get some legacy producers and writers back in the fold.

    I actually enjoyed the Kelvin movies. That said, "The Orville" feels
    more like Star Trek than anything coming out of Paramount or CBS lately.

    Orville is great, and feels like ST:TNG, which is great. Discovery feels like the newer Star Trek movies however, and is just as good IMHO.

    Have you watched Lower Decks yet? If you like Orville, don't miss Lower Decks.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Thursday, September 10, 2020 08:14:33
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Moondog to Tracker1 on Thu Sep 10 2020 01:37 am

    Did I hear correctly that the Orville series has been dropped after this next season? I guess Lower Decks will have to pick up the absence of Trek humor.

    Last I heard, The Orville will be moving to Hulu. I hadn't heard about it being dropped though.

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to DaiTengu on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 08:59:00
    DaiTengu wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    I thought Dean Pariscot did an excellent job directing. He also
    directed Galaxy Quest, which is one of my favorite all-time films.

    I liked hearing from him in the "Galaxy Quest" documentary - he was
    brought in after Harold Ramis (if memory serves) dropped out. Having
    him leave was a huge red flag and Dean knew he was going into a
    situation, but came out swinging.

    Sounds like Harold Ramis couldn't work with Tim Allen's comedy. It's
    a shame, a Ramis GQ would have been interesting. But, as-is it's a
    wonderful film.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:06:00
    Arelor wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    Well, Roger Moore was Roger Moore... I liked his films but I recognize
    he was a bit silly and not for everybody.

    Weird, since The Saint was a different character - Roger Moore played
    it much more like a traditional Bond.

    There's a podcast called James Bonding where a couple of fans talk
    about the movies - they talked about the cultural shock they had
    trying to update a 60's bond to fit the 70s, which was when Roger
    Moore had the role. Think of "Live and Let Die", seeing a middle-aged
    English man trying to play a lead trying to attract a younger (and
    less white) audience.



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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Moondog on Thursday, September 10, 2020 15:55:36
    On 9/9/2020 10:37 PM, Moondog wrote:
    I actually enjoyed the Kelvin movies. That said, "The Orville" feels
    more like Star Trek than anything coming out of Paramount or CBS lately.

    Did I hear correctly that the Orville series has been dropped after this next season? I guess Lower Decks will have to pick up the absence of Trek humor.

    AFAIK it's an uncomfirmed rumor denied by an executive producer.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Friday, September 11, 2020 18:56:00
    Hello Android8675!

    ** On Thursday 10.09.20 - 10:08, android8675 wrote to Tracker1:

    I've always been a Q fan as well, the new Quartermaster I
    think is amazingly played. I really can't wait for this
    film. I've always had a soft spot for James Bond flicks.

    I've always enjoyed the opening scenes just before the theme
    song. I saw The Spy Who Loved Me in theatre. The opening
    skiing sequence was amazing. The jump off the cliff was a
    total surprise and the filming made it feel a bit like the
    first roller coaster drop at that top.

    The theme song with the animations of yummy ladies dancing
    around with guns is bit of fun too.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Arelor on Sunday, September 13, 2020 00:45:51
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 10 2020 02:46 am

    I think Discovery and Picard's "feel" has more to do with how
    television i consumed now days. Deep Space Nine really pioneered the
    whole serialized st thing, Enterprise ramped it up a bit, but now
    with streaming services and binge-watching, all anyone cares about is
    serialized shows. Things like Bla Mirror stand out partially because
    they're stand-alone stories.

    I'm really digging Lower Decks. It's smart, funny, and definitely has
    a TNG feel to it.

    I don't know, I think there is a lot of room for standalones. My Little Pony FiM, for example, was very successful and, while it features a metaplot, its episodes are... episodic in nature.


    Yes, I'm sure it's great if you're a 7 year old girl.

    DaiTengu

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Android8675 on Sunday, September 13, 2020 00:49:24
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Android8675 to Tracker1 on Thu Sep 10 2020 07:10 am

    Orville is great, and feels like ST:TNG, which is great. Discovery feels like the newer Star Trek movies however, and is just as good IMHO.

    Have you watched Lower Decks yet? If you like Orville, don't miss Lower Decks.

    Lower Decks is great. Every episode seems to knock it out of the park. Just the right amount of callbacks, references, and humor, while still being recognizable as Star Trek.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to DaiTengu on Sunday, September 13, 2020 09:52:00
    DaiTengu wrote to Dr. What <=-

    It's not free, It's an extra $30 or something on top of your Disney+ subscription. And it's not because things "went poorly" it's because that's how movies are being released now.

    Disney-anything isn't worth anything anymore. The Lefties there ruined that company.

    1. Disney doesn't own Star Trek.

    For some reason, I thought that they did. But it's not relevant. Star Trek is owned by CBS/Viacom and they are just as Woke.

    2. You're whining about modern trek not being militarized enough? are
    you fucking serious? Watching modern Trek is like watching an action flick. The last episode of Season 2 of Discovery was an hour long
    giant space battle that put anything BSG ever did to shame.

    There's an "old" saying: Get Woke. Go Broke.

    The last several Star Trek incarnations have been awful.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Nightfox on Sunday, September 13, 2020 10:39:00
    Nightfox wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    I've heard many people liked Roger Moore as James Bond. I don't
    remember if I've seen his Bond movies though - maybe just parts. My favorite was Pierse Brosnan.

    My favorite was always Sean Connery.

    Roger Moore was OK, but I think the writing for his movies moved away from spy/thriller and more toward sex/gadgets.

    When I watched them later on, I found I hated the Roger Moore movies.

    I did like Pierce Brosnan as Bond. I thought he did a good job, but Sean Connery still beats him.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 16:16:33
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Sun Sep 13 2020 09:52 am

    Disney-anything isn't worth anything anymore. The Lefties there ruined that company.

    The Marvel flicks have been some of the best, most enjoyable films I've seen in the last 20 years.

    1. Disney doesn't own Star Trek.

    For some reason, I thought that they did. But it's not relevant. Star Trek is owned by CBS/Viacom and they are just as Woke.

    Show me on the doll where Stephen Colbert touched you.

    2. You're whining about modern trek not being militarized enough?
    are you fucking serious? Watching modern Trek is like watching an
    action flick. The last episode of Season 2 of Discovery was an hour
    long giant space battle that put anything BSG ever did to shame.

    There's an "old" saying: Get Woke. Go Broke.

    It can be a saying. It's obviously not true. Disney films are raking in the dough. 13 out of the top 20 grosssing films of all time, are Dinsey flicks. CBS/Viacom is producing more Star Trek, because .. it's an abject failure and no one's watching it? Yeah, that must be it, right?



    The last several Star Trek incarnations have been awful.

    Your opinions are bad, and you should feel bad.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to DaiTengu on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 21:42:40
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Wed Sep 16 2020 04:16 pm

    The last several Star Trek incarnations have been awful.

    Your opinions are bad, and you should feel bad.

    "Everything you're doing is bad. I want you to know this." - Museum keeper from Ghostbusters 2

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  • From Arelor@VERT to DaiTengu on Thursday, September 17, 2020 03:19:48
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Wed Sep 16 2020 04:16 pm

    The Marvel flicks have been some of the best, most enjoyable films I've see in the last 20 years.

    I beg to differ.

    Some of them were quite good, but they are obviously jumping this badwagon of replacing good plots with cringeworthy humor and an overload of computer generated effects.

    I myself think there has been a decline in quality since the first Avengers movie.

    By the time they were campaigning against white heterosexual males I had already lost interest in the franchise.

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  • From Arelor@VERT to DaiTengu on Thursday, September 17, 2020 03:31:56
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Wed Sep 16 2020 04:16 pm

    There's an "old" saying: Get Woke. Go Broke.

    It can be a saying. It's obviously not true. Disney films are raking in the dough. 13 out of the top 20 grosssing films of all time, are Dinsey flicks. CBS/Viacom is producing more Star Trek, because .. it's an abject failure a no one's watching it? Yeah, that must be it, right?

    I don't think going SJW and campaigning against the biggest percentage of your target audience equals going broke. But it is not good finantially either.

    Most people I know didn't use to care much, and I'd say it was safe for a film producer, literary magazine or RPG publisher to inject vast loads of political propaganda. The target audience they were attacking would complain but still buy their products.

    Now I am detecting large amounts of people I know personally who is dropping comic series, films, games etc. because they are getting fed up with political propaganda that attempts to demonize them.

    I bet many of those franchises are still making a profit. But I also bet they are making LESS of a profit. And an increasing number is gonna make it to red numbers.

    I mean, do you really expect that injecting Feminist propaganda in your RPG line, who is bought by white-heterosexual males in their 30s and 40s, won't cause a bit of a problem to the publisher?

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to DaiTengu on Thursday, September 17, 2020 08:44:00
    DaiTengu wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The Marvel flicks have been some of the best, most enjoyable films
    I've seen in the last 20 years.

    They were. Until Stan Lee died and the films took a Left turn into Woke-ness.

    It can be a saying. It's obviously not true. Disney films are raking
    in the dough.

    *Laugh* You need to get your news from something other than Leftie Media. Mulan, for example, tanked at the box office. Disney lost big and has
    been losing for quite some time.

    13 out of the top 20 grosssing films of all time, are
    Dinsey flicks.

    A quick Google search shows othewise.

    CBS/Viacom is producing more Star Trek, because .. it's
    an abject failure and no one's watching it? Yeah, that must be it,
    right?

    Because Lefties never admit their mistakes and always double down on their bad decisions. That's why "Get Woke, Go Broke" is a fact.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Nightfox on Thursday, September 17, 2020 09:13:50
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Nightfox to DaiTengu on Wed Sep 16 2020 09:42 pm

    The last several Star Trek incarnations have been awful.

    Your opinions are bad, and you should feel bad.

    "Everything you're doing is bad. I want you to know this." - Museum keeper from Ghostbusters 2


    I was paraphrasing Zoidberg from Futurama ;)

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Arelor on Thursday, September 17, 2020 09:15:59
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 2020 03:19 am

    The Marvel flicks have been some of the best, most enjoyable films
    I've see in the last 20 years.

    I beg to differ.

    Some of them were quite good, but they are obviously jumping this badwagon of replacing good plots with cringeworthy humor and an overload of computer generated effects.

    I myself think there has been a decline in quality since the first Avengers movie.

    By the time they were campaigning against white heterosexual males I had already lost interest in the franchise.

    Differ all you want. The numbers don't lie. People enjoy the hell out of those flicks.

    DaiTengu

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Arelor on Thursday, September 17, 2020 09:21:45
    Re: Go Woke, Go Broke (was James Bond Update)
    By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 2020 03:31 am

    I don't think going SJW and campaigning against the biggest percentage of your target audience equals going broke. But it is not good finantially either.

    I haven't seen signs of them "campaigning against" white, heterosexual males. I've only seen signs of them trying to include a representation of those who are not white, heterosexual males.

    Most people I know didn't use to care much, and I'd say it was safe for a film producer, literary magazine or RPG publisher to inject vast loads of political propaganda. The target audience they were attacking would complain but still buy their products.

    The people you know are in the minority. Congratulations, you've been marginalized. How does it feel?

    DaiTengu

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  • From Arelor@VERT to DaiTengu on Thursday, September 17, 2020 08:46:24
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: DaiTengu to Arelor on Thu Sep 17 2020 09:15 am

    Differ all you want. The numbers don't lie. People enjoy the hell out of those flicks.

    Numbers are no proof of quality. Saying that a film is good because everybody is watching it is like saying Windows Vista is great because everybody was using it back in the day. Current Marketing techniques ensure that crappy products can get great profits as long as they are backed by a corporation with big wallets.

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  • From Arelor@VERT to DaiTengu on Thursday, September 17, 2020 08:57:14
    Re: Go Woke, Go Broke (was James Bond Update)
    By: DaiTengu to Arelor on Thu Sep 17 2020 09:21 am

    I haven't seen signs of them "campaigning against" white, heterosexual male I've only seen signs of them trying to include a representation of those who are not white, heterosexual males.

    For starters, Black Panther had a big ideologial background according to which whites sucked and owed black people, and such concept was repeated more than once, taken for granted by the main characters, and presented as undeniable truth.

    Bonus points because if they had reversed the roles, everybody would have screamed bloody nazism, and rightly so. Imagine if I pop up and write a story about a civilized country of whites who manages to survive the barbarian niggars by hidding so then can't be found, and ensuring niggars can't enter. The movie is racist, is based on racism, it is unapologetic and barely better than Birth of a Nation.


    Racism is not good just because your friends are doing the campaigning.

    By the way, it looks to me that you are the one who is alone defending your position here, not me, so next time you try to make somebody feel marginalized ensure you are not the marginalized person.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Thursday, September 17, 2020 11:58:45
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 2020 08:44 am

    The Marvel flicks have been some of the best, most enjoyable films
    I've seen in the last 20 years.

    They were. Until Stan Lee died and the films took a Left turn into Woke-ness.

    Stan was quite "Woke". He talked extensively about inclusiveness and racism.

    It can be a saying. It's obviously not true. Disney films are raking
    in the dough.

    *Laugh* You need to get your news from something other than Leftie Media. Mulan, for example, tanked at the box office. Disney lost big and has
    been losing for quite some time.

    It never made it to theaters in the US. It did better in China than Aladdin, and did quite well in Thailand.

    Disney+ has not released numbers. So claiming it "Tanked" is your attempt at trying to spin a narritive based on a large number of circumstances.

    13 out of the top 20 grosssing films of all time, are
    Dinsey flicks.

    A quick Google search shows othewise.

    You're right, it's 14:

    (Top 20 grossing films of all time, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films )

    Avengers: Endgame - Disney
    Avatar
    Titanic
    Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Disney
    Avengers: Infinity War - Disney
    Jurassic World
    The Lion King - Disney
    The Avengers - Disney
    Furious 7 - Disney
    Frozen II - Disney
    Avengers: Age of Ultron - Disney
    Black Panther - Disney
    Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
    Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Disney
    Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
    Frozen - Disney
    Beauty and the Beast - Disney
    Incredibles 2 - Disney
    The Fate of the Furious
    Iron Man 3 - Disney

    CBS/Viacom is producing more Star Trek, because .. it's
    an abject failure and no one's watching it? Yeah, that must be it,
    right?

    Because Lefties never admit their mistakes and always double down on their bad decisions. That's why "Get Woke, Go Broke" is a fact.

    "fact" ? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Arelor@VERT to DaiTengu on Thursday, September 17, 2020 11:08:09
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Thu Sep 17 2020 11:58 am

    (Top 20 grossing films of all time, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films )

    Avengers: Endgame - Disney
    Avatar
    Titanic
    Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Disney
    Avengers: Infinity War - Disney
    Jurassic World
    The Lion King - Disney
    The Avengers - Disney
    Furious 7 - Disney
    Frozen II - Disney
    Avengers: Age of Ultron - Disney
    Black Panther - Disney
    Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
    Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Disney
    Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
    Frozen - Disney
    Beauty and the Beast - Disney
    Incredibles 2 - Disney
    The Fate of the Furious
    Iron Man 3 - Disney

    I am curious as to how many of those contain deliberate virtual signaling or political propaganda. Also The Last Jedi was made by Lucas Films well before Disney borged it in so it doesn't really count.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Arelor on Thursday, September 17, 2020 12:47:06
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 2020 08:46 am

    Differ all you want. The numbers don't lie. People enjoy the hell
    out of those flicks.

    Numbers are no proof of quality. Saying that a film is good because everybody is watching it is like saying Windows Vista is great because everybody was using it back in the day. Current Marketing techniques ensure that crappy products can get great profits as long as they are backed by a corporation with big wallets.

    I don't care for the Fast & Furious films, but there's no denying people do like them, and that they're making big bank.

    "good" in the terms of filmography is subjective. If you don't like a movie, fine. But in the grand scheme of things, it's all about how much money it makes.

    DaiTengu

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Arelor on Thursday, September 17, 2020 13:01:45
    Re: Go Woke, Go Broke (was James Bond Update)
    By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 2020 08:57 am

    I haven't seen signs of them "campaigning against" white, heterosexual
    male I've only seen signs of them trying to include a representation
    of those who are not white, heterosexual males.

    For starters, Black Panther had a big ideologial background according to which whites sucked and owed black people, and such concept was repeated more than once, taken for granted by the main characters, and presented as undeniable truth.

    It's been awhile since I've seen that film, but I don't recall any of that.


    By the way, it looks to me that you are the one who is alone defending your position here, not me, so next time you try to make somebody feel marginalized ensure you are not the marginalized person.

    Hey buddy, If I'm marginalizing you, I'm marginalizing me, too. Maybe we should spend some time as the minority, see how it feels. You might have some fucking compassion, then.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Arelor@VERT to DaiTengu on Thursday, September 17, 2020 14:02:45
    Re: Go Woke, Go Broke (was James Bond Update)
    By: DaiTengu to Arelor on Thu Sep 17 2020 01:01 pm

    Hey buddy, If I'm marginalizing you, I'm marginalizing me, too. Maybe we should spend some time as the minority, see how it feels. You might have som fucking compassion, then.

    With all due respect, you know nothing about me. I could as well have been marginalized due to social circumpstances and have not had a proper childhood.

    In which case I would be VERY angry because what passes for justice today is using newspeak or blaming a demographic group I belong to of things I am no responsible off whatsoever, instead of solving real discrimination. You know, the one in which people is harassed or beaten because their parents vote Joe instead of Jack.

    Then I'd also point out that being marginalized is the quickest way of killing any fucking compassion you might want to show to anybody, because people are fucking monsters that deserve no compassion at all.

    But if that was the case I would not bring it to the Entertainment sub. I'd rather post it as a theoretical scenario.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Arelor on Thursday, September 17, 2020 19:46:17
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 2020 11:08 am

    I am curious as to how many of those contain deliberate virtual signaling or political propaganda. Also The Last Jedi was made by Lucas Films well before Disney borged it in so it doesn't really count.

    Disney bought Lucasfilm in 2012. The Last Jedi came out in 2017.

    I bet you get picked last for Trivia night, don't you?

    DaiTengu

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Arelor on Saturday, September 19, 2020 12:23:00
    Arelor wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Thu Sep 17 2020 11:58 am

    (Top 20 grossing films of all time, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films )

    Avengers: Endgame - Disney
    Avatar
    Titanic
    Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Disney
    Avengers: Infinity War - Disney
    Jurassic World
    The Lion King - Disney
    The Avengers - Disney
    Furious 7 - Disney
    Frozen II - Disney
    Avengers: Age of Ultron - Disney
    Black Panther - Disney
    Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
    Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Disney
    Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
    Frozen - Disney
    Beauty and the Beast - Disney
    Incredibles 2 - Disney
    The Fate of the Furious
    Iron Man 3 - Disney

    I am curious as to how many of those contain deliberate virtual
    signaling or political propaganda. Also The Last Jedi was made by Lucas Films well before Disney borged it in so it doesn't really count.

    And all the Avengers films were made by Marvel Studios. Although owned by Disney since 2009, they really didn't get merged until 2015. So that knocks out some of those too (Iron Man 3, The Avengers). I really enjoyed the early Marvel films, but the later ones just weren't that entertaining. I Goodwilled many of the later ones or never bothered to purchase them.

    Everything that Disney touches now, it ruins.


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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to Dr. What on Saturday, September 19, 2020 21:31:00
    They were. Until Stan Lee died and the films took a Left turn into Woke-ness.

    With Stan or not, it's just too much Marvel to me. There was a moment that it totally dominated the cinema new releases worth considering and hid in shadows anything else you could only discover via online streaming or niche theaters.

    After 20+ movies (including tv-shows) I've started perceiving Marvel as Brazilian love-story soap opera kind of thing. Episode 12351, Joe visits a mall and talks about the experience for half of a show...

    I stopped going to cinemas when I just got sick of Marvel and Star Wars all together. Netflix and my own dvd collection helped me maintain the feeling that movies are still relevant to inspire with something new

    It can be a saying. It's obviously not true. Disney films are raking
    in the dough.

    *Laugh* You need to get your news from something other than Leftie
    Media. Mulan, for example, tanked at the box office. Disney lost big
    and has been losing for quite some time.

    13 out of the top 20 grosssing films of all time, are
    Dinsey flicks.

    Funny, at work a friend told me that he just subscribed to Disney+ and asked me if I have done that as well and what kind of sentimental Disney movie guy I'm.

    What a suprise when I told him that I'm not a "disney" guy, I'm more Hanna Barbea guy when we talk about classics and I don't care about what Disney does these days as much as I'm curious about smaller/indie studios.

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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to DaiTengu on Saturday, September 19, 2020 21:35:00
    Numbers are no proof of quality. Saying that a film is good because everybody is watching it is like saying Windows Vista is great because everybody was using it back in the day. Current Marketing techniques ensure that crappy products can get great profits as long as they are backed by a corporation with big wallets.

    I don't care for the Fast & Furious films, but there's no denying
    people do like them, and that they're making big bank.

    "good" in the terms of filmography is subjective. If you don't like a movie, fine. But in the grand scheme of things, it's all about how much money it makes.

    "Hackers" from 95 with A. Jolie did not make its revenue targets back in the days, today it's a total classic. I don't think anybody will remember How many parts of Fast and Furious were out there 10 years from now. (aside of the fact that some are enjoyable movies, if you have no expectations)

    Stat is stat, souless shit at the end. More people connected on the internet andtalking on the same platform are helping you realize we're all dumb idiots.. ain't that the reason why we're escaping to BBSes?

    Same with movies.. more viewers don't make them memorable classics so I agree iwth above.

    /h1



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  • From Arelor@VERT to hollowone on Saturday, September 19, 2020 16:30:35
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: hollowone to Dr. What on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:31 pm

    What a suprise when I told him that I'm not a "disney" guy, I'm more Hanna Barbea guy when we talk about classics and I don't care about what Disney do these days as much as I'm curious about smaller/indie studios.

    I don't want to sound snob but I have found myself gravitating from more mainstream works and focusing on classics. There are thousands of hours of recorded films already, I don't feel like I need more films to be made. Specially if big producers are going to rehash the same ideas again and again and again.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Saturday, September 19, 2020 21:16:00
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Saturday 19.09.20 - 19:30, arelor wrote to hollowone:

    I don't want to sound snob but I have found myself
    gravitating from more mainstream works and focusing on
    classics. There are thousands of hours of recorded films
    already, I don't feel like I need more films to be made.
    Specially if big producers are going to rehash the same
    ideas again and again and again.

    New producers love to create or rehash their versions using
    younger actors or use newer film techologies. It will never
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Saturday, September 19, 2020 20:47:37
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Arelor to hollowone on Sat Sep 19 2020 04:30 pm

    I don't want to sound snob but I have found myself gravitating from more mainstream works and focusing on classics. There are thousands of hours of recorded films already, I don't feel like I need more films to be made. Specially if big producers are going to rehash the same ideas again and again and again.

    The classics are good, but sometimes you might find yourself wanting to watch something you haven't seen before.
    Similarly for music, I've listened to classic rock for a long time, and I have a lot of old favorites, but occasionally I feel like I don't want to listen to something I've listened to possibly hundreds of times already (exaggerating).

    Nightfox

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  • From Arelor@VERT to Ogg on Sunday, September 20, 2020 02:41:53
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Ogg to All on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:16 pm

    New producers love to create or rehash their versions using
    younger actors or use newer film techologies. It will never
    end.

    What grinds my gears is that there are actual new ideas out there. It is just lots of producers are choosing not to take them
    to the screen.

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  • From Arelor@VERT to Nightfox on Sunday, September 20, 2020 02:46:12
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Nightfox to Arelor on Sat Sep 19 2020 08:47 pm

    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Arelor to hollowone on Sat Sep 19 2020 04:30 pm

    I don't want to sound snob but I have found myself gravitating from more mainstream works and focusing on classics. The
    are thousands of hours of recorded films already, I don't feel like I need more films to be made. Specially if big
    producers are going to rehash the same ideas again and again and again.

    The classics are good, but sometimes you might find yourself wanting to watch something you haven't seen before.
    Similarly for music, I've listened to classic rock for a long time, and I have a lot of old favorites, but occasionally I fe
    like I don't want to listen to something I've listened to possibly hundreds of times already (exaggerating).

    Nightfox


    Here is the thing, you can buy a 50 or 100 film pack from the black and white era for cheap... lots of Boris Karloff and Bela
    Lugosy and company. It will take years to go through such a collection, and you will be watching lots of things you have never
    watched before.

    But yeah I guess going THAT hipster is not for everybody.

    Also, I like rediscovering oldies. I redidn't consder myself a sucker for classical rock but I came into some Rainbow and Black
    Sabath stuff early this year and it blew my mind.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:00:52
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Arelor to Ogg on Sun Sep 20 2020 02:41 am

    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Ogg to All on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:16 pm

    New producers love to create or rehash their versions using
    younger actors or use newer film techologies. It will never
    end.

    What grinds my gears is that there are actual new ideas out there. It is just lots of producers are choosing not to take them to the screen.


    they dont think new ideas work. look at all the superhero movies. that's the business now. if you dont put on tights, they might not have work.

    read some screenplays. they are total garbage. they are poorly written and just a framework for them to build on.

    i havent seen a good movie in over 5 years.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to hollowone on Sunday, September 20, 2020 08:19:00
    hollowone wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    "Hackers" from 95 with A. Jolie did not make its revenue targets back
    in the days, today it's a total classic.


    Mel Brooks was on a podcast called "How did this get made?", a
    movie podcast. He talked about "Solar Babies", a movie his company
    did in 1986. It went from a $5M movie funded by Mel's friends, to
    needing an additional $5M from the bank, to Mel putting his house as
    collateral for another $5M because of production issues and poor
    planning.

    It flopped in the theaters, but became a campy cult classic. Mel said
    that the movie finally broke even, in 2012 or so.

    It's worth finding the podcast episode, Mel Brooks is hilarious in
    it.



    np: Alice in Chains, "Low Ceiling"

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Sunday, September 20, 2020 08:51:00
    Arelor wrote to Ogg <=-

    What grinds my gears is that there are actual new ideas out there. It
    is just lots of producers are choosing not to take them to the screen.

    It's all algorithm- and profit-driven, and risk averse. Why take a
    risk on a cerebral project when you can get a guaranteed return on a
    reboot of a remake of a movie based on a comic book?




    np: Richard Barbieri, "Byzantium"


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:15:39
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Sep 20 2020 11:00 am

    they dont think new ideas work. look at all the superhero movies. that's the business now. if you dont put on tights, they might not have work.

    read some screenplays. they are total garbage. they are poorly written and just a framework for them to build on.

    i havent seen a good movie in over 5 years.

    I'm also not a huge fan of superhero movies, and I get tired of seeing all the superhero releases they're making these days.

    What kind of movies do you like? I think there are some interesting ones here and there. If you like sci-fi, I think Predestination (2014) was good. It's a time ravel movie, and I know time travel has been done a lot, but it has a twist. For comedy, I thought "Always Be My Maybe" was fairly good. It's a romantic comedy, and I know it might not be everyone's thing though.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sunday, September 20, 2020 17:38:49
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Sep 20 2020 12:15 pm


    read some screenplays. they are total garbage. they are poorly
    written and just a framework for them to build on.

    i havent seen a good movie in over 5 years.

    I'm also not a huge fan of superhero movies, and I get tired of seeing all the superhero releases they're making these days.

    What kind of movies do you like? I think there are some interesting ones here and there. If you like sci-fi, I think Predestination (2014) was


    yeah, i liked predestination. i caught onto what they were doing pretty quick though. i think mindfuck movies usually.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Sunday, September 20, 2020 23:13:42
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Dr. What to Arelor on Sat Sep 19 2020 12:23 pm

    Disney since 2009, they really didn't get merged until 2015. So that knocks out some of those too (Iron Man 3, The Avengers). I really enjoyed the early Marvel films, but the later ones just weren't that entertaining. I Goodwilled many of the later ones or never bothered to purchase them.

    Everything that Disney touches now, it ruins.


    go look up that infographic about what disney owns.

    they own like 85% of the planet.
    they do everything. all kinds of dumb shit, too. https://storage.googleapis.com/titlemax-media/1c8ace8f-every-company-disney-own s-13_pageversion-lg.jpg



    sorry tinyurl wont do that domain

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to hollowone on Sunday, September 20, 2020 23:15:24
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: hollowone to Dr. What on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:31 pm

    They were. Until Stan Lee died and the films took a Left turn into
    Woke-ness.

    With Stan or not, it's just too much Marvel to me. There was a moment that it totally dominated the cinema new releases worth considering and hid in shadows anything else you could only discover via online streaming or niche theaters.


    stan lee did jack shit for marvel for decades. he provided no direction.

    After 20+ movies (including tv-shows) I've started perceiving Marvel as Brazilian love-story soap opera kind of thing. Episode 12351, Joe visits a mall and talks about the experience for half of a show...

    I stopped going to cinemas when I just got sick of Marvel and Star Wars all together. Netflix and my own dvd collection helped me maintain the feeling that movies are still relevant to inspire with something new

    It can be a saying. It's obviously not true. Disney films are raking
    in the dough.

    *Laugh* You need to get your news from something other than Leftie
    Media. Mulan, for example, tanked at the box office. Disney lost
    big and has been losing for quite some time.


    Funny, at work a friend told me that he just subscribed to Disney+ and asked me if I have done that as well and what kind of sentimental Disney movie guy I'm.


    disney owns us all!

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Arelor on Monday, September 21, 2020 19:34:00
    On 09-20-20 02:41, Arelor wrote to Ogg <=-

    What grinds my gears is that there are actual new ideas out there. It
    is just lots of producers are choosing not to take them to the screen.

    Yes, still a lot of great books to adapt to the screen, and in theory, possibilities are limited by the inagination (literally!). :)


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to hollowone on Monday, September 21, 2020 09:50:00
    hollowone wrote to Dr. What <=-

    What a suprise when I told him that I'm not a "disney" guy, I'm more
    Hanna Barbea guy when we talk about classics and I don't care about
    what Disney does these days as much as I'm curious about smaller/indie studios.

    My dad's generation grew up on Disney and I enjoyed what little I was exposed to. But I grew up on Hanna/Barbera too and that's where my loyalties lie.

    Many of the Disney stuff was pretty dated by the time that I saw it and, while fairly entertaining, really didn't resonate with me.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Monday, September 21, 2020 08:20:24
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: MRO to Dr. What on Sun Sep 20 2020 11:13 pm

    Disney since 2009, they really didn't get merged until 2015. So that
    knocks out some of those too (Iron Man 3, The Avengers). I really
    enjoyed the early Marvel films, but the later ones just weren't that
    entertaining. I Goodwilled many of the later ones or never bothered
    to purchase them.

    Everything that Disney touches now, it ruins.


    go look up that infographic about what disney owns.

    they own like 85% of the planet.
    they do everything. all kinds of dumb shit, too. https://storage.googleapis.com/titlemax-media/1c8ace8f-every-company-disne y-own s-13_pageversion-lg.jpg



    I know MRO won't see this, but I'm totally reminded of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBJIZ1NXFU

    DaiTengu

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MRO on Monday, September 21, 2020 07:02:00
    MRO wrote to Arelor <=-

    read some screenplays. they are total garbage. they are poorly written
    and just a framework for them to build on.

    I had a friend who made decent money writing screenplays as a side
    hustle. I swear that her strategy was to check as many boxes as
    possible to convince a studio to option it just to prevent any legal
    action when another script is made into a movie with some of the
    elements that my friend put in hers.

    It must have worked, she made mid-5 figures writing after dinner.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Monday, September 21, 2020 07:03:00
    Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

    done a lot, but it has a twist. For comedy, I thought "Always Be My Maybe" was fairly good. It's a romantic comedy, and I know it might
    not be everyone's thing though.

    I liked it, too. Filmed in a lot of my old San Francisco haunts, so I
    liked seeing the places I used to go. I used to walk past the building
    where they went to dinner with Keanu, if memory serves it's actually a
    museum.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dr. What on Monday, September 21, 2020 12:34:41
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Dr. What to hollowone on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:50 am

    My dad's generation grew up on Disney and I enjoyed what little I was exposed to. But I grew up on Hanna/Barbera too and that's where my loyalties lie.

    Many of the Disney stuff was pretty dated by the time that I saw it and, while fairly entertaining, really didn't resonate with me.

    You make it sound like Disney is old news.. Disney is still around and producing movies.

    Nightfox

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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to DaiTengu on Monday, September 21, 2020 21:33:00
    Everything that Disney touches now, it ruins.

    Year ago I purchased a book about Disney's CEO responsible for all these mergers, trying to sell a great leadership story in corporate world to revive the old brand and head it into a new era.

    Self promotional biography. I started reading it. I did not have much time for reading lately so 400 pages or so took like forever.

    In the middle of that "great" book and a few months later the guy.. the successful guy got fired. Difficult to understand when you were in the book.

    But reality check is sad. They've acquired a lot interesting brands but sucked it up to its internal black holed culture to copy cat itself.

    I really enjoyed Marvel at the beginning and I was sort of waiting for SW continuation.

    It's all find for kids, maybe that's the target audience, new generation to meet the same shit we think we had already seen better.

    But still I'm not buying it.

    /h1


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  • From Arelor@VERT to hollowone on Monday, September 21, 2020 14:25:04
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: hollowone to DaiTengu on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:33 pm

    It's all find for kids, maybe that's the target audience, new generation to meet the same shit we think we had already seen better.

    Actually I think that is a stated strategy.

    Disney has something they call The Vault. They keep ideas there and onl¤y market them once per generation. They will sell Peter Pan for kids today, and then stop marketing it and nearly wipe its existence until enough time has passed. Then they will try to sell it to the new kids, who will regard it as a new thing.

    What is painful is they are borging franchises that were no Disney's in the begining and shoehorning them into being apt for new kids.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, September 21, 2020 15:23:00
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Mon Sep 21 2020 07:02 am

    MRO wrote to Arelor <=-

    read some screenplays. they are total garbage. they are poorly written and just a framework for them to build on.

    I had a friend who made decent money writing screenplays as a side
    hustle. I swear that her strategy was to check as many boxes as
    possible to convince a studio to option it just to prevent any legal
    action when another script is made into a movie with some of the
    elements that my friend put in hers.

    It must have worked, she made mid-5 figures writing after dinner.



    ... "Well, you were right about this being a bad idea."

    It was either Dave Gerrold or DC Fontana on the commentary track for the
    Start Trek Animated Series box set who mentioned something about turning away viewer authored scripts because of the mess the studio had with people trying to get credit for writing less than original ideas for stories the in house writers already discussed, or have written well before the fan submitted his script.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Monday, September 21, 2020 21:40:58
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 2020 03:23 pm

    It was either Dave Gerrold or DC Fontana on the commentary track for the Start Trek Animated Series box set who mentioned something about turning away viewer authored scripts because of the mess the studio had with people trying to get credit for writing less than original ideas for stories the in house writers already discussed, or have written well before the fan submitted his script.

    dave chapelle mentioned something like this. a guy sent in an idea about something they were already going to do. they paid him so he wouldnt sue.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 07:00:00
    Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    It was either Dave Gerrold or DC Fontana on the commentary track for
    the Start Trek Animated Series box set who mentioned something about turning away viewer authored scripts because of the mess the studio had with people trying to get credit for writing less than original ideas
    for stories the in house writers already discussed, or have written
    well before the fan submitted his script.


    Totally! I could imagine a fanfic-heavy franchise like Star Trek
    getting a ton of submissions. Considering some of the heavyweights
    writing for TOS, they wouldn't necessarily need them.



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 20:39:00
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: MRO to Moondog on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:40 pm

    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 2020 03:23 pm

    It was either Dave Gerrold or DC Fontana on the commentary track for th Start Trek Animated Series box set who mentioned something about turnin away viewer authored scripts because of the mess the studio had with people trying to get credit for writing less than original ideas for stories the in house writers already discussed, or have written well before the fan submitted his script.

    dave chapelle mentioned something like this. a guy sent in an idea about so


    Even though they intentionally avoided fan letters and submissions, there are so many cliches in science fiction and mainstream story telling that someone could easily come up with the same plot independently. That would sure be
    hard to fight in court unless the writers had good documentation to mark when and how stories were fleshed out.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 08:54:00
    Hello Moondog!

    ** On Tuesday 22.09.20 - 20:39, moondog wrote to MRO:

    ...because of the mess the studio had with people
    trying to get credit for writing less than original
    ideas for stories the in house writers already
    discussed, or have written well before the fan
    submitted his script.

    Even though they intentionally avoided fan letters and
    submissions, there are so many cliches in science fiction
    and mainstream story telling that someone could easily
    come up with the same plot independently. That would sure
    be hard to fight in court unless the writers had good
    documentation to mark when and how stories were fleshed
    out.

    Even records like that can be faked or back-dated.

    Some time ago I read that one way to prove such submissions is
    to send a copy of a script to yourself via register mail - and
    NOT open it. Should the claim for original authorship arise
    in court, the registered letter if opened by the judge would
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 11:37:00
    Nightfox wrote to Dr. What <=-

    You make it sound like Disney is old news.. Disney is still around and producing movies.

    Disney is old news. They are mainly buying new talent (ex: Pixar, Lucasfilm) for their new movies. Then they force the talented people out and ruin
    the genre (ex: Star Wars) and are left with garbage.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Ogg on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 21:23:00
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Ogg to All on Wed Sep 23 2020 08:54 am

    Hello Moondog!

    ** On Tuesday 22.09.20 - 20:39, moondog wrote to MRO:

    ...because of the mess the studio had with people
    trying to get credit for writing less than original
    ideas for stories the in house writers already
    discussed, or have written well before the fan
    submitted his script.

    Even though they intentionally avoided fan letters and
    submissions, there are so many cliches in science fiction
    and mainstream story telling that someone could easily
    come up with the same plot independently. That would sure
    be hard to fight in court unless the writers had good
    documentation to mark when and how stories were fleshed
    out.

    Even records like that can be faked or back-dated.

    Some time ago I read that one way to prove such submissions is
    to send a copy of a script to yourself via register mail - and
    NOT open it. Should the claim for original authorship arise
    in court, the registered letter if opened by the judge would
    help settle the matter.

    I've heard of that. In the movie Game Show, a former contestant proved the ga me show he was on gave out answers by making a copy and mailing them to himsel f to get the postmark.

    The majority of TNG's first season was re-writes of leftover scripts and
    story ideas from TOS. Some even carried over to the animated series in the early 1970's.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to MRO on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 16:29:32
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Sep 20 2020 12:15 pm

    yeah, i liked predestination. i caught onto what they were doing pretty quick though. i think mindfuck movies usually.

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