Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows?
It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

and now they are trying to milk starwars.

SAD!

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Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to All on Fri Sep 01 2023 12:43 am

Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows? It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

I was never really much into superhero movies (with a few exceptions). I've been thinking superhero movies have been way overdone for years.

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Re: superhero shit
By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 08:51 am

Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to All on Fri Sep 01 2023 12:43 am

Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows? It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

I was never really much into superhero movies (with a few exceptions). I've been thinking superhero movies have been way overdone for years.

i certainly do not like the marvel movies. they have lame attempts at humor.
i did like thor ragnarok and black panther. i did not like the colonizer remarks in that movie, though.

dc's movies are total trash but they do have some great animated films.

there's not much i do like, but i usually go for mindfuck movies;i like a surpise.

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Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Sep 01 2023 11:25 am

i certainly do not like the marvel movies. they have lame attempts at humor. i did like thor ragnarok and black panther. i did not like the colonizer remarks in that movie, though.

The Guardians of the Galaxy movies are probably the only recent ones I really liked. It just feels like superhero movies have been done to death though, and most of the recent ones seem fairly drawn out too, at around 2 and a half or 3 hours long. I don't think they really need to be that long.

there's not much i do like, but i usually go for mindfuck movies;i like a surpise.

I think Predestination (2014) isn't bad for that, if you haven't seen it.

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Re: superhero shit
By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 01:21 pm

there's not much i do like, but i usually go for mindfuck movies;i like a surpise.

I think Predestination (2014) isn't bad for that, if you haven't seen it.

yeah i saw that. the trans one. i didnt expect THAT

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Re: superhero shit
By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 01:21 pm

The Guardians of the Galaxy movies are probably the only recent ones I really liked. It just feels like superhero movies have been done to death though, and most of the recent ones seem fairly drawn out too, at around 2 and a half or 3 hours long. I don't think they really need to be that long.

I agree. With the exception of Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor Ragnarok I've really struggled to get into anything in the Marvel world since the days of Iron Man and Spider Man.

They just feel all the same to me. Every other movie I've watched in the Marvel category of late I've ended up tuning out and doing something else - just leaving it on in the background.

I've had Disney+ since it launched here in 2019 but just cancelled my subscription as I haven't seen anything of note released for a while that's not from Marvel.

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Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Sep 01 2023 04:21 pm

yeah i saw that. the trans one. i didnt expect THAT

It was a great movie. I really should watch Predestination again.

Chronicle was probably one of the more recent "Superhero" type movies that I actually liked (even though it's about 10 years old now). While the "handycam" type filming technique does get a bit annoying I still enjoyed it for something that wasn't just throwing as much CGI as they could.

And while I did enjoy the first one, Shazam Fury of the Gods was another waste of time. I really wanted to like it as I love Helen Mirren and enjoyed the first one but I couldn't get into it.

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MRO wrote to All <=-

Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows?
It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

Didn't Marvel's "What if?" do Zombie Super Heroes?


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Re: superhero shit
By: Ewing to MRO on Sat Sep 02 2023 08:16 am

Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Sep 01 2023 04:21 pm

yeah i saw that. the trans one. i didnt expect THAT

It was a great movie. I really should watch Predestination again.

Chronicle was probably one of the more recent "Superhero" type movies that I

oh i forgot about that one. that was a good movie.

And while I did enjoy the first one, Shazam Fury of the Gods was another waste of time. I really wanted to like it as I love Helen Mirren and enjoyed the first one but I couldn't get into it.

i didnt see the first one, but saw the 2nd one. it was crappy.
i saw blue beetle recently and it totally sucked. also they played fucking
la cucaracha like 10x in the movie.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 06:39 am

MRO wrote to All <=-

Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows?
It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

Didn't Marvel's "What if?" do Zombie Super Heroes?

yeah they did the comic marvel zombies to jump on the zombie bandwagon.
they had ash in there for a little bit too.

whatif was just a way to spotlight it.

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I was never really much into superhero movies (with a few exceptions). I'v
thinking superhero movies have been way overdone for years.

Same.

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I agree. With the exception of Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor Ragnarok I ally struggled to get into anything in the Marvel world since the days of an and Spider Man.

What about the spider mans? I've heard those are supposed to be good.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: candycane to Ewing on Sun Sep 03 2023 12:09 am

I agree. With the exception of Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor Ragnarok I ally struggled to get into anything in the Marvel world since the days of an and Spider Man.

What about the spider mans? I've heard those are supposed to be good.

the spiderverse ones are decent. but not the spiderman movies.

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Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows?
It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

and now they are trying to milk starwars.

SAD!

I agree and I'd indeed feel sad unless I've ignored it and keep trying to find and watch my own movie niches.

I don't trust brands and hype.. brand + hype brought together is something I distrust and watch later if anyhow..

But you're totally right. Marvel, SW is like that Zombie shit when postapo tv series triggered in and Hollywood followed with Z and stuff..

I liked the new D&D movie though, I liked Stranger Things over past few years, Witcher on Netflix isn't that bad.. watchable. Wednesday too.

I watch some pop-culture orientated documentaries that were recorded max 10 years ago, like the one about Aliens, Teenage Turtles Ninja creators or He-Man story connecting toys, animated series from the 80s and the backstage considerations for the movie with Dolph Lundgren.

You have to be picky and curious to find good movies these days, they are rarely those that are advertised most. But that just makes it more interesting and apparently, old fashioned ;)

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Hello MRO!

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there's not much i do like, but i usually go for mindfuck movies;i like a surpise.

Would Tenet qualify? It and even Inception (both by Christopher
Nolan) seem very mind-bending.

Memento had a cool time-frame treatment that started with two
separate timelines and converged into one.

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Re: superhero shit
By: Ogg to MRO on Sun Sep 03 2023 05:40 pm

Hello MRO!

** On Friday 01.09.23 - 11:25, MRO wrote to Nightfox:

there's not much i do like, but i usually go for mindfuck movies;i like a surpise.

Would Tenet qualify? It and even Inception (both by Christopher

i couldn't get into tenet. it didnt grab me

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Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to All on Fri Sep 01 2023 12:43 am

and now they are trying to milk starwars.

Such a shame to see a tiny passion project like Star Wars be turned into a vehicle for shameless consumerism

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Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to All on Fri Sep 01 2023 12:43 am

Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows?
It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

and now they are trying to milk starwars.

SAD!

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I feel you.

It is all a reflection of the state of creative bankrupcy the West is in now.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: candycane to Ewing on Sun Sep 03 2023 12:09 am

I agree. With the exception of Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor Ragnarok
I
ally struggled to get into anything in the Marvel world since the days of
an and Spider Man.

What about the spider mans? I've heard those are supposed to be good.

I think they had rebooted Spiderman a couple times? That bugged me a bit. Also I just wasn't really into the Spiderman movies as much as other superhero movies. I think the 1989 Batman with Michael Keaton is still one of my favorite superhero movies (and Superman 4 with Christopher Reeve).

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Re: superhero shit
By: Margaerynne to MRO on Mon Sep 04 2023 12:30 am

Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to All on Fri Sep 01 2023 12:43 am

and now they are trying to milk starwars.

Such a shame to see a tiny passion project like Star Wars be turned into a vehicle for shameless consumerism

i wouldnt call it a passion project.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: Nightfox to candycane on Mon Sep 04 2023 04:58 pm

I think they had rebooted Spiderman a couple times? That bugged me a bit. Also I just wasn't really into the Spiderman movies as much as other superhero movies. I think the 1989 Batman with Michael Keaton is still one of my favorite superhero movies (and Superman 4 with Christopher Reeve).

michael keaton is a fucking awesome actor.
he nailed batman on the head.
he can really tap into some dark shit. he was great as the vulture too.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Sep 04 2023 10:36 pm

michael keaton is a fucking awesome actor. he nailed batman on the head. he can really tap into some dark shit. he was great as the vulture too.

I heard they're (finally) making a sequel to Beetlejuice, with Michael Keaton and Wynona Rider returning, set to be released next year.
I'd been hearing rumors about this since around 2012 or so, but now it sounds like it's actually happening.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Sep 04 2023 10:36 pm

michael keaton is a fucking awesome actor. he nailed batman on the he he can really tap into some dark shit. he was great as the vulture t

I heard they're (finally) making a sequel to Beetlejuice, with Michael Keaton and Wynona Rider returning, set to be released next year.
I'd been hearing rumors about this since around 2012 or so, but now it sounds like it's actually happening.

yeah.. the problem is the writer's strike. we'll see if it comes out the other side unscathed

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I think they had rebooted Spiderman a couple times? That bugged me a bit.

Every superhero has been rebooted a dozen times.

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It is all a reflection of the state of creative bankrupcy the West is in now.

I'd not say West as whole. I'd rather limit it to "Hollywood blockbusters". That part of the show business is creatively bankrupt indeed. But there is still Indie market and B class stuff that is often surprising beyond expectations.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: candycane to Nightfox on Tue Sep 05 2023 08:41 am

I think they had rebooted Spiderman a couple times? That bugged me a
bit.

Every superhero has been rebooted a dozen times.

But I thought with Spiderman it happened a couple times, right within a span of a few years..

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: hollowone to Arelor on Tue Sep 05 2023 07:16 am

I'd not say West as whole. I'd rather limit it to "Hollywood blockbusters".

I dunno. Most time I come across something modern that is still good, it is Asian.

There are some outstanding exceptions, but I am not optimistic about our industry.

Spanish cinema is based on government handouts so Spanish movies are the voice of the government because the government pays the bills.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Sep 04 2023 10:20 pm

Re: Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Sep 04 2023 10:36 pm

michael keaton is a fucking awesome actor. he nailed batman on the head. he can really tap into some dark shit. he was great as the vulture too.

I heard they're (finally) making a sequel to Beetlejuice, with Michael Keaton and Wynona Rider returning, set to be released next year.
I'd been hearing rumors about this since around 2012 or so, but now it sounds like it's actually happening.

no geena davis because she looks like hell and no baldwin because he kills people. so they need to find a way to explain them being gone.

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Spanish cinema is based on government handouts so Spanish movies are the voice of the government because the government pays the bills.

I like recent revival of Polish gangster/action/thriller movies, also a lot of drama movies that can astonish a viewer. The style is very raw or to try to add some realism to situations that generate danger.. no hollywood colorizing. death, murder.. this kind of stuff is scary, not in the horror terms, but real life experience terms.. psychologically.

You cannot watch them too often, too much, but once you hit one, you'll understand the style immediately. They are fully commercial, no grants and gain a lot of theater popularity here.

Which to me is the revival of the 90s, when we had a lot of local movies and content that was competing here with Hollywood successfully, even if it was directed on budget.

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Spanish cinema is based on government handouts so Spanish movies are the v of the government because the government pays the bills.

Didn't know that. So it's basically propaganda?

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: hollowone to Arelor on Wed Sep 06 2023 12:21 am

I like recent revival of Polish gangster/action/thriller movies, also a lot > kind of stuff is scary, not in the horror terms, but real life experience te

I don't remember watching any Polish movie recently, but I do remember watchingsome from a variety of Eastern Europe countries.

The noir ones certainly looked more gritty than Hollywood candy. None of them were great but I remember some pretty decent ones.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: candycane to Arelor on Wed Sep 06 2023 08:35 am

Didn't know that. So it's basically propaganda?

Not *openly*, but you can certainly notice they reinforce the stereotypes that the powers that be want you to interiorize.

Now, you can really see actors and film makers actively endorse the powers thatbe quite a lot out of the screen.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: Arelor to candycane on Sun Sep 10 2023 05:17 pm

Didn't know that. So it's basically propaganda?

Not *openly*, but you can certainly notice they reinforce the stereotypes that the powers that be want you to interiorize.

Right, quiet propoganda :>

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Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to All on Fri Sep 01 2023 00:43:20

Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows?
It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

I don't think people are "DONE" with the content so much that most of the stories are very played out and formula driven. Disney/Marvel in particular are pretty bad about not creating any real tension or consequence (more below).

and now they are trying to milk starwars.

An example of this, is that Disney/Lucas Star Wars has used a light saber through the gut a total of 4 times in recent TV and Movies, and the characters lived through it... this should simply not be the case... It absolutely should be a fatal blow. Hot plasma burning essential organs should mean death. At least the got that right in Episode 1. They removed consequences.

And while the Andor series was pretty good, and the first couple seasons of Mandalorean were good, the studio (Kennedy) just seems to have too much influence over the movies and series and compelling story is lost over "flawless" characters, or characters that don't learn.

Episode 4 of Ahsoka was better than the other three, but still not great. Ray Stevenson is one of the few bright points in the series, and the only character who seems to match the stoicism the character should have. Sabine and Hera don't match their animated counterparts at all and Ahsoka herself seems a bit off. Savine, Hera and Ahsoka all seem to be stoic for no real reason, and lacking other character in order to hide any potential character flaws, or ability to grow as parts.

I think there's still room for super hero and scifi driven stories, but they have to be good. Have decent motivation, character development and work for it. For as bad as Game of Thrones ended, at least they did interresting things, like killing off main characters through the seasons. Disney seems absolutely incapable of this anymore.


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Re: superhero shit
By: Ewing to Nightfox on Sat Sep 02 2023 08:09:07

They just feel all the same to me. Every other movie I've watched in the Marvel category of late I've ended up tuning out and doing something else - just leaving it on in the background.

They follow a very similar formula arch over the movies... the characters are slightly different but the pacing is much the same, and there's no real tention or risk in any of it. If they did something different, leave the ending with a bad guy winning, or a character that actually grows, or someone of significance actually dying (I don't think Iron Man in infinity war quite counts since it's more of a one off that people knew was coming).

I've had Disney+ since it launched here in 2019 but just cancelled my subscription as I haven't seen anything of note released for a while that's not from Marvel.

You can't get Hulu without Disney+, but may be dropping that since we aren't using the Live TV feeds as much lately.


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Re: superhero shit
By: Ewing to MRO on Sat Sep 02 2023 08:16:47

And while I did enjoy the first one, Shazam Fury of the Gods was another waste of time. I really wanted to like it as I love Helen Mirren and enjoyed the first one but I couldn't get into it.

Blue Beetle was fun, similar to first Shazam, not great but fun. May want to give "Invincible" and "The Boys" a look on Amazon. Quite a bit different than the formula shows.


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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Sep 04 2023 22:20:16

I heard they're (finally) making a sequel to Beetlejuice, with Michael Keaton and Wynona Rider returning, set to be released next year.
I'd been hearing rumors about this since around 2012 or so, but now it sounds like it's actually happening.

With the SAG-AFRA strike(s), I think almost everything is on hold and may not see nearly as much this next year or so. Would be happy to see another Beetlejuice all the same.


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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Mon Sep 11 2023 08:49 pm

I heard they're (finally) making a sequel to Beetlejuice, with Michael
Keaton and Wynona Rider returning, set to be released next year. I'd been
hearing rumors about this since around 2012 or so, but now it sounds like
it's actually happening.

With the SAG-AFRA strike(s), I think almost everything is on hold and may not see nearly as much this next year or so. Would be happy to see another Beetlejuice all the same.

I just saw some articles today that say filming for the new Beetlejuice is almost complete, and Tim Burton said the movie is 99% finished..

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Re: superhero shit
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Sep 11 2023 08:39 pm

characters lived through it... this should simply not be the case... It absolutely should be a fatal blow. Hot plasma burning essential organs should mean death. At least the got that right in Episode 1. They removed consequences.

Also an apt metaphor for the franchise as a whole.

Disney seems absolutely incapable of this anymore.

I just think they don't try anymore.

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Blue Beetle was fun, similar to first Shazam, not great but fun. May
want to give "Invincible" and "The Boys" a look on Amazon. Quite a bit different than the formula shows.

I enjoyed "The Boys", love the trope of a world where superheroes are
the norm.

There was an ITV series called "No Heroics", about a world full of
superheroes. It was a Friends-like storyline with some b-list
superheroes, like ElectroFlash, a woman who can talk to machines (and
uses her powers to get money and cigarettes from ATMs and vending
machines), a man with a drinking problem and the ability to see 30
seconds into the future, and The Hotness, a guy who can make small
fires on his hands - he's seen using his powers to heat a microwave
entree at home in front of telly.

A similar movie came out years ago called "Mystery Men", it's pretty entertaining if you like the trope.



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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tracker1 on Wed Sep 13 2023 06:49 am

A similar movie came out years ago called "Mystery Men", it's pretty entertaining if you like the trope.

This is my favorite all-time movie. I know I might be the only one on the planet though haha. It was perfect for when it came out though.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: Nightfox to Tracker1 on Mon Sep 11 2023 16:43:29

I just saw some articles today that say filming for the new Beetlejuice is almost complete, and Tim Burton said the movie is 99% finished..

Sweet!


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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: anthk to All on Tue Nov 14 2023 01:07 am

A cross between Trump and Leisure Suit Larry seems like a pretty awesome idea to me too.

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