Better late than never, Stephen and Rob catch up in the second episode of their
fledgling podcast, TechDorks.

http://mp3.techdorks.net/episodes/techdorks-2015-07-24-ep2.mp3

digital man

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Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Digital Man to TechDorks on Fri Jul 24 2015 04:09 am

Better late than never, Stephen and Rob catch up in the second episode of their fledgling podcast, TechDorks.

http://mp3.techdorks.net/episodes/techdorks-2015-07-24-ep2.mp3

you might want to host this on a service like soundcloud or something.

i'm pulling 26kbps when trying to download.
is this your home address?

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Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Mro to Digital Man on Sun Jul 26 2015 11:23 am

Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Digital Man to TechDorks on Fri Jul 24 2015 04:09 am

Better late than never, Stephen and Rob catch up in the second episode of their fledgling podcast, TechDorks.

http://mp3.techdorks.net/episodes/techdorks-2015-07-24-ep2.mp3

you might want to host this on a service like soundcloud or something.

i'm pulling 26kbps when trying to download.
is this your home address?

Yes, with a 10Mb upstream. The problem have been transient as I'm not seeing anywhere near that slow of a rate when pulling from multiple remote endpoints. If it turns out there is enough demand, I'll certainly move the location of the
mp3 files to a VPS or something else with plenty of bandwidth - that's why I used a different hostname. I don't think soundcloud would be a good fit.

digital man

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Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Digital Man to Mro on Mon Jul 27 2015 01:14 am

Yes, with a 10Mb upstream. The problem have been transient as I'm not
seeing anywhere near that slow of a rate when pulling from multiple remote endpoints. If it turns out there is enough demand, I'll certainly move the location of the mp3 files to a VPS or something else with plenty of bandwidth - that's why I used a different hostname. I don't think

well i've downloaded from you at ~25kbps since you changed isps.
i'm on tw cable in midwest usa.

right now i am downloading from you on bbses.info and that's in montreal, canada. the speed is around 27kbps

http://i.imgur.com/yxvn12n.png

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Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Mro to Digital Man on Mon Jul 27 2015 12:57 pm

Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Digital Man to Mro on Mon Jul 27 2015 01:14 am

Yes, with a 10Mb upstream. The problem have been transient as I'm not seeing anywhere near that slow of a rate when pulling from multiple remote endpoints. If it turns out there is enough demand, I'll certainly move the location of the mp3 files to a VPS or something else with plenty of bandwidth - that's why I used a different hostname. I don't think

well i've downloaded from you at ~25kbps since you changed isps.
i'm on tw cable in midwest usa.

right now i am downloading from you on bbses.info and that's in montreal, canada. the speed is around 27kbps

http://i.imgur.com/yxvn12n.png

That screenshot shows a download speed of 27.6K/s, that's kilobytes per second,
not kilobits. So that's 27.6 * 1024 * 8 = 226,099 bits per second (or 226kbps).

When I test from remote locations, I consistently get around 100KB/s (that's about 800,000 bits per second), which I think is pretty good considering the concurrent usage my servers get. I'm on Charter/Spectrum business cable. Before
I switched (from AT&T DSL), you complained a lot about my upstream bandwidth (which was about 384kbps, iirc). You've complained less since I switched to cable.

In any case, the speed you're getting is plenty fast enough for live streaming (I'm encoding the MP3s for about 130kbps, VBR). With live streaming, you don't have to wait for the download to complete before you start listening.

digital man

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Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Digital Man to TechDorks on Fri Jul 24 2015 04:09 am

Better late than never, Stephen and Rob catch up in the second episode of th fledgling podcast, TechDorks.

Enjoyed the show guys. Thanks for the Infozip and Sexyz tips. Look forward to the next one. All the best!

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Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Digital Man to Mro on Mon Jul 27 2015 04:56 pm

speed is around 27kbps

That screenshot shows a download speed of 27.6K/s, that's kilobytes per second, not kilobits. So that's 27.6 * 1024 * 8 = 226,099 bits per second (or 226kbps).

Don't forget, Mro can't use a shift key.

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I like the show so far, keep it up! :) (And thanks for the mention in episode two! heheh)

I also second comments about the download speed - it's horribly slow. It's taking me almost an hour to download each of the shows. At 50-65Mb each in size, that's bonkers. :) It's been running almost 10 minutes and I have 10.2 megs download and it says 5 hours left. Oh, now it says 48 minutes. I tried downloading the first show on my phone the day y'all put it up and 3 hours later I had about 35% and I cancelled it. I regularly download 200-300 meg files (android roms) on my phone and it will take 5-10 minutes tops. You should really host these on soundcloud or something. Even dropbox may be better.

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Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Nolageek to TechDorks on Thu Aug 06 2015 03:40 pm

I like the show so far, keep it up! :) (And thanks for the mention in episode two! heheh)

Thanks for listening!

I also second comments about the download speed - it's horribly slow. It's taking me almost an hour to download each of the shows. At 50-65Mb each in size, that's bonkers. :) It's been running almost 10 minutes and I have 10.2 megs download and it says 5 hours left. Oh, now it says 48 minutes. I tried downloading the first show on my phone the day y'all put it up and 3 hours later I had about 35% and I cancelled it. I regularly download 200-300 meg files (android roms) on my phone and it will take 5-10 minutes tops. You should really host these on soundcloud or something. Even dropbox may be better.

I anticipated that the mp3 files should (eventually) be hosted somewhere else, but the numbers you're giving aren't consistent with my findings (I regularly get 100-150 KBytes/second from various remote locations using various service providers). At that rate, it takes less than 15 minutes to download a 66M (80+ minute) episode file. But it's possible that the through-put just varies with the demand or time of day (and how much YouTube and NetFlix consumption is going on in my domicile).

I think there are better (and cheaper) options to Soundcloud and Dropbox. I'll start looking.

digital man

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Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Nolageek to TechDorks on Thu Aug 06 2015 03:40 pm

I also second comments about the download speed - it's horribly slow. It's taking me almost an hour to download each of the shows. At 50-65Mb each in size, that's bonkers. :) It's been running almost 10 minutes and I have 10.2 megs download and it says 5 hours left. Oh, now it says 48 minutes. I tried downloading the first show on my phone the day y'all put it up and 3 hours later I had about 35% and I cancelled it. I regularly download 200-300 meg

Does your phone not have a podcast app that downloads new episodes in the background and notifies you when they're listenable? It still sounds like the speed your getting is streamable, so if you're downloading to listen immediately, why wait until the whole thing is downloaded to start listening to the beginning?

I would think that either method would work with the speeds you are reporting (the Podcast app on my phone supports both modes).

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Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Nolageek to TechDorks on Thu Aug 06 2015 03:40 pm

I like the show so far, keep it up! :) (And thanks for the mention in episode two! heheh)

I also second comments about the download speed - it's horribly slow. It's taking me almost an hour to download each of the shows. At 50-65Mb each in size, that's bonkers. :) It's been running almost 10 minutes and I have
10.2 megs download and it says 5 hours left. Oh, now it says 48 minutes. I tried downloading the first show on my phone the day y'all put it up and 3 hours later I had about 35% and I cancelled it. I regularly download
200-300 meg files (android roms) on my phone and it will take 5-10 minutes tops. You should really host these on soundcloud or something. Even dropbox may be better.

what sucks is if he get hosting from some cheap providers they might complain that he is using it as a file backup service or for file sharing. (sometimes against the TOS)

it's probably best to just use some free podcast/music/audio host best suited for this task.

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Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Deuce to Nolageek on Thu Aug 06 2015 06:01 pm

Does your phone not have a podcast app that downloads new episodes in the background and notifies you when they're listenable?

I can't decide which I like better, but I alternate between DogCatcher and Podcast Addict. I listen to about 6 or 7 podcasts. I tried subscribing to to your podcast and it takes hours to download them and bottlenecks downloading the others. I just downloaded the first two at work and move them to the phone via USB. It took almost an hour to get the first two. This afternoon (when I posted the comment) I waited almost 40 minutes and there was still 15-20 minutes left to download episodes 3 and 4 so I just left them downloading. I'll move them over tomorrow when I get in. :) It's definately not my conenction because when I cancelled the download in DogCatcher one morning, it download all of my other new shows in like 5 minutes.

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Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: nolageek to Deuce on Fri Aug 07 2015 12:16 am

I can't decide which I like better, but I alternate between DogCatcher and Podcast Addict. I listen to about 6 or 7 podcasts. I tried subscribing to to your podcast and it takes hours to download them and bottlenecks downloading the others.

I wonder if this "only one download at a time" is a limit of Android or the apps.


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Re: Episode 2: Fiddle About
By: Deuce to nolageek on Fri Aug 07 2015 12:07 pm

I wonder if this "only one download at a time" is a limit of Android or the apps.

Not sure, I know the app store also only downloads one at a time as well.

Right now I'm downloading episode 3 and it's been going for ~25 minutes on my desktop and I've only downloaded ~30MB - I still have 23-27 minutes left (it's going up and down.) It's the only thing I'm uploading/downloading.

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