So how many protester's do you think will vote come november? They are too stupid to know it's the only way change can be made in this country. They think frighting us is the way to make change. I've been to my congressmen's office fighting for what I believed in. Marching in a demonstration wouldn't have done dick. Looking my representatives in the eye got laws written that made changes in the system. Now blacks want to abolish police departments. They want to patrol themselves. Just goes to prove my point. They are stupid, ignorant, people. I say give them their own STATE! Let them have Maryland or Washington DC. A totally Black STATE. Build jails for housing. They can protest all they want. Burn down their housing. Just like they did in Chicago and NYC back in the 60's and 70's. Except this time don't rely on the whites to build it back up again. Let them do it themselves. Regards,
You fucking disgust me.
You fucking disgust me.
Does that mean you plan on voting in November or not? Maybe you should join them in protesting our democracy too. Blacks get to say whatever they want but when I say whatever I want I get pounced on.
DaiTengu wrote to HusTler <=-
Re: Voters?
By: HusTler to All on Mon Jun 08 2020 10:54 pm
So how many protester's do you think will vote come november? They are too stupid to know it's the only way change can be made in this country. They think frighting us is the way to make change. I've been to my congressmen's office fighting for what I believed in. Marching in a demonstration wouldn't have done dick. Looking my representatives in the eye got laws written that made changes in the system. Now blacks want to abolish police departments. They want to patrol themselves. Just goes to prove my point. They are stupid, ignorant, people. I say give them their own STATE! Let them have Maryland or Washington DC. A totally Black STATE. Build jails for housing. They can protest all they want. Burn down their housing. Just like they did in Chicago and NYC back in the 60's and 70's. Except this time don't rely on the whites to build it back up again. Let them do it themselves. Regards,
You fucking disgust me.
HusTler wrote to All <=-
So how many protester's do you think will vote come november? They
are too stupid to know it's the only way change can be made in this country. They think frighting us is the way to make change.
Now blacks
want to abolish police departments. They want to patrol themselves.
Someone's pulling our rhetorical leg. This can't be anything more than a vodka fueled rant built on months of lockdown frustration.
Someone's pulling our rhetorical leg. This can't be anything more than a vodka fuel
rant built on months of lockdown frustration.
Daniel Traechin
Nightfox wrote to calcmandan <=-
Re: Re: Voters?
By: calcmandan to DaiTengu on Wed Jun 10 2020 05:56 am
Someone's pulling our rhetorical leg. This can't be anything more than a vodka fueled rant built on months of lockdown frustration.
It would seem weird to me that Hustler's racist rant would only be due
to drinking too much, or something.. Drinking doesn't temporarily make you racist. :P
Arelor wrote to calcmandan <=-vodk
Re: Re: Voters?
By: calcmandan to DaiTengu on Wed Jun 10 2020 05:56 am
Someone's pulling our rhetorical leg. This can't be anything more than a
a fuel
rant built on months of lockdown frustration.
Daniel Traechin
You haven't visited the Stormfront website as of late, have you?
I don't share HustLer's views, but I don't find them surprising. Politicians are bent into turning everything into a racial issue these days. When you take random incidents and label them as racial issues,
at some point somebody will take your glove.
Identitarian politics suck for this very reason (among others). You
take a real issue. Then you label it as an issue that affects the
minority you want to buy in. For example, if the local authorities are making it hard to organize flea markets, you present it as a conspiracy against the minority. "The Town Hall wants to destroy the livehood of gypsies by making it hard to organize flea markets!"
Do you want to guess what happens next? That people starts correlating flea market supporter = gypsy. If you agree with the current flea
market policies, you won't see politicians fighting the policies you
like. You will see gypsies fighting those policies. After three or four cases like this one, you will correlate gypsy = people who smashes policies I support.
And so is how racism creeps in.
Which is why I find it so depressing that politicians and organizations are taking a real issue (police seems to have killed a man with no good reason) and present it as a conspiranoic fact (police killed a man
because he was black).
So much cry.
Arelor wrote to calcmandan <=-vodk
Re: Re: Voters?
By: calcmandan to DaiTengu on Wed Jun 10 2020 05:56 am
Someone's pulling our rhetorical leg. This can't be anything more than a
a fuel
rant built on months of lockdown frustration.
Daniel Traechin
You haven't visited the Stormfront website as of late, have you?
I don't share HustLer's views, but I don't find them surprising. Politicians are bent into turning everything into a racial issue these days. When you take random incidents and label them as racial issues,
at some point somebody will take your glove.
Identitarian politics suck for this very reason (among others). You
take a real issue. Then you label it as an issue that affects the
minority you want to buy in. For example, if the local authorities are making it hard to organize flea markets, you present it as a conspiracy against the minority. "The Town Hall wants to destroy the livehood of gypsies by making it hard to organize flea markets!"
Do you want to guess what happens next? That people starts correlating flea market supporter = gypsy. If you agree with the current flea
market policies, you won't see politicians fighting the policies you
like. You will see gypsies fighting those policies. After three or four cases like this one, you will correlate gypsy = people who smashes policies I support.
And so is how racism creeps in.
Which is why I find it so depressing that politicians and organizations are taking a real issue (police seems to have killed a man with no good reason) and present it as a conspiranoic fact (police killed a man
because he was black).
So much cry.
And so is how racism creeps in.
Which is why I find it so depressing that politicians and organizations are real issue (police seems to have killed a man with no good reason) and prese conspiranoic fact (police killed a man because he was black).
So much cry.
It doesn't help when the way you know you're doing better in a social media di
scussion is when your opponent calls you a rascist for no reason. It's as if they
feel deep down inside that they're rascist, and figure it will hurt you like it hur
them to be accused of it.
Re: Re: Voters?
By: Arelor to calcmandan on Wed Jun 10 2020 09:22 am
And so is how racism creeps in.
Which is why I find it so depressing that politicians and organizations a real issue (police seems to have killed a man with no good reason) and pr conspiranoic fact (police killed a man because he was black).
So much cry.
we are 'sinners', that is useful tool as well. The talk is about justice, but >the actions and tone reveal a contest for dominance, which is what I think it >is really about. Competing worldviews and identities contesting for power. It
smells so strongly of group competition.
Someone's pulling our rhetorical leg. This can't be anything more than a vodka fueled rant built on months of lockdown frustration.
Daniel Traechin
paulie420 wrote to calcmandan <=-
Re: Re: Voters?
By: calcmandan to DaiTengu on Wed Jun 10 2020 05:56 am
Someone's pulling our rhetorical leg. This can't be anything more than a vodka fueled rant built on months of lockdown frustration.
Daniel Traechin
No, there really are racists in America still - its what the [proper] protesters are fed up with...
The fact that they have to leave their houses with different worries
than we do. That there may be a HuSTlER they encounter during the day, who's attitude enables a Chauvin to take their life away... its
horrible; but don't kid yourself, these people aren't just liquored
up... they live among us, still with racism in their viens...
I disagree with looting and rioting; I disagree with illegal take overs
of a city block... But I stand with black Americans, and want for them
to feel as safe as we do every single day of their lives... the fact
that a race still is faced with this reality is disgusting. As a
society, it holds us back. In an individual, it exists.
No, there really are racists in America still - its what the [proper] protester
are fed up with...
But I stand with black Americans, and want for them to feel as safe as we do ev
ry single day of their lives... the fact that a race still is faced with this r
ality is disgusting. As a society, it holds us back. In an individual, it exist
No, there really are racists in America still - its what the
[proper] protesters are fed up with...
Where did I say there weren't racists in America? And I'm not sure what you mean of proper protesters.
I agree that racism exists in America and it's worse now than it has ever been. These last two weeks are proof in the pudding.
Narratives have changed though. Today, the protests are of a mythical institutional racism of white vs black. The institution targets black people. This is categorically false. Further, they're no longer demanding anything less than anarchy and the absolute tyranny of totalitarian dictatorship. Just look at the clownhouse in central Seattle. There's NOTHING racist about that embarassment. No, nothing at all. It is an embarrasment. I can't believe what's happening over there while the local government sit there with their thumbs up their asses like Portland did a few years ago.
Anyone simply protesting the senseless murder of Floyd are far and few between. Those cops are marked regardless if it's done by the legal system, by street justice, or Epsteined. Their days are numbered and everyone knows this.
Hustler shows the ugliness of racism. Those who openly admit those feelings have fallen into a camp trap.
What's a camp trap? Someone has joined a camp of thought and, once there, they get trapped in a loop of circular and illogical reasoning. Rarely can anything be said to someone in a camp trap that will convince them otherwise. You see it in science skeptics, religious extremists, and political idealogues. What's worse, they consider themselves free thinkers. It's ludicrous.
And yes, what Hustler said shocked me because it's 2020 and I don't remember anyone ever being so overtly and painfully racist than that. It's almost as if we were reading a movie script from the 40s.
There we go with the fallacy about a 'they' vs 'we.' I wish you would re-read what you wrote. Many good people fall into that myth without realizing it. I know you have good intentions because I see it in your writing.
Do yourself a favor and look up historical crime statistics of the United States. Look at it objectively and without any preconceived notions about what to expect. I would bet a five-dollar footlong that the results would shock you.
But I stand with black Americans, and want for them to feel as safe as
we do ev ry single day of their lives... the fact that a race still is
faced with this r ality is disgusting. As a society, it holds us back.
In an individual, it exist
Do you really feel that safe?
Never wear a wife beater
Never go outside without ID
Never go outside without a shirt on
Never play music loud in the car
Never draw attention
Dumas Walker wrote to DENNISK <=-
we are 'sinners', that is useful tool as well. The talk is about justice, but
the actions and tone reveal a contest for dominance, which is what I think it
is really about. Competing worldviews and identities contesting for power. It
smells so strongly of group competition.
That pretty much describes how politics in the USA works. At least
since 2008 but probably long before that. The Democrats are all about pitting us against each other by some sort of identity differences,
both real and imagined.
Dumas Walker wrote to DENNISK <=-
we are 'sinners', that is useful tool as well. The talk is about justice, but
the actions and tone reveal a contest for dominance, which is what I think it
is really about. Competing worldviews and identities contesting for power. It
smells so strongly of group competition.
That pretty much describes how politics in the USA works. At least
since 2008 but probably long before that. The Democrats are all about pitting us against each other by some sort of identity differences,
both real and imagined.
I think this short article sums up what is happening succinctly and accurately.
https://www.declineoftheempire.com/2020/06/a-clear-and-present-danger.html
I think that they don't 'feel safe' and... I saw a YT video of a 13 year old black kid going over rules that blacks should never do:
Never wear a wife beater
Never go outside without ID
Never go outside without a shirt on
Never play music loud in the car
Never draw attention
Etc etc etc... things that we take for granted.
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