• Antifa basics

    From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to All on Monday, June 01, 2020 11:10:00
    Antifa are organized in multiple units. Scouts monitor perimeter of an area & provide live audio/text updates. There
    are street medics, who are trained to get injured comrades out. And there are those who carry out violence w/weapons & firebombs.
    They use Signal to communicate.

    Antifa are "horizontally" organized, meaning, they don't have figureheads or leaders. It's part of their ideology that there
    should be no authority or state. Mistake to then assume this means they have no organization. It's a different type of organizing
    media isn't used to.

    And all the other protesters/looters/opportunists? They are just human shields for antifa. When police try to make arrests or
    disperse the mob, these people are usually injured first.

    Footage of those injuries (e.g. women, children, black people) are then massively amplified by sympathetic media. This leads
    to politicians pressuring police to withdraw or scale back response. Who benefits? Antifa.

    -Andy Ngo
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  • From Arelor@VERT to MATTHEW MUNSON on Monday, June 01, 2020 15:55:44
    Re: Antifa basics
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to All on Mon Jun 01 2020 11:10 am

    Antifa are organized in multiple units. Scouts monitor perimeter of an area provide live audio/text updates. There
    are street medics, who are trained to get injured comrades out. And there ar those who carry out violence w/weapons & firebombs.
    They use Signal to communicate.

    Antifa are "horizontally" organized, meaning, they don't have figureheads or leaders. It's part of their ideology that there
    should be no authority or state. Mistake to then assume this means they have organization. It's a different type of organizing
    media isn't used to.

    And all the other protesters/looters/opportunists? They are just human shiel for antifa. When police try to make arrests or
    disperse the mob, these people are usually injured first.

    Footage of those injuries (e.g. women, children, black people) are then massively amplified by sympathetic media. This leads
    to politicians pressuring police to withdraw or scale back response. Who benefits? Antifa.

    -Andy Ngo

    You are going to laugh, but I have seen those tactics explained by Colonel Applegate in police training materials from the 60s.

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to MATTHEW MUNSON on Monday, June 01, 2020 19:44:33
    Re: Antifa basics
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to All on Mon Jun 01 2020 11:10 am

    Antifa are organized in multiple units. Scouts monitor perimeter of an area provide live audio/text updates. There
    are street medics, who are trained to get injured comrades out. And there ar those who carry out violence w/weapons & firebombs.
    They use Signal to communicate.

    Antifa are "horizontally" organized, meaning, they don't have figureheads or leaders. It's part of their ideology that there
    should be no authority or state. Mistake to then assume this means they have organization. It's a different type of organizing
    media isn't used to.

    And all the other protesters/looters/opportunists? They are just human shiel for antifa. When police try to make arrests or
    disperse the mob, these people are usually injured first.

    Footage of those injuries (e.g. women, children, black people) are then massively amplified by sympathetic media. This leads
    to politicians pressuring police to withdraw or scale back response. Who benefits? Antifa.

    -Andy Ngo

    I think we all know who the Antifa is here now fellas.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MATTHEW MUNSON on Monday, June 01, 2020 19:04:11
    Re: Antifa basics
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to All on Mon Jun 01 2020 11:10 am

    Antifa are organized in multiple units. Scouts monitor perimeter of an area & provide live audio/text updates. There are street medics, who are trained to get injured comrades out. And there are those who carry out violence w/weapons & firebombs. They use Signal to communicate.

    Antifa are "horizontally" organized, meaning, they don't have figureheads or leaders. It's part of their ideology that there should be no authority or state. Mistake to then assume this means they have no organization. It's a different type of organizing media isn't used to.

    And all the other protesters/looters/opportunists? They are just human shields for antifa. When police try to make arrests or disperse the mob, these people are usually injured first.

    Footage of those injuries (e.g. women, children, black people) are then massively amplified by sympathetic media. This leads to politicians pressuring police to withdraw or scale back response. Who benefits? Antifa.


    This is some grade-A weaponized conspiracy theory bullshit right here, folks.


    You're either Antifa or you're Profa. pick one.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to DaiTengu on Tuesday, June 02, 2020 10:30:00
    DaiTengu wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON <=-

    You're either Antifa or you're Profa. pick one.

    I'd rather be the King of Fa.

    Then I can take my Fa King computer to the Fa King coffee shop and relax for a Fa King while.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Tuesday, June 02, 2020 15:13:02
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Tue Jun 02 2020 10:30 am

    DaiTengu wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON <=-

    You're either Antifa or you're Profa. pick one.

    I'd rather be the King of Fa.

    The King of Fascism? ... hmm...


    Then I can take my Fa King computer to the Fa King coffee shop and relax for a Fa King while.

    I see what you did there.

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  • From paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to DaiTengu on Tuesday, June 02, 2020 14:32:45
    Re: Antifa basics
    By: DaiTengu to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Jun 01 2020 07:04 pm

    This is some grade-A weaponized conspiracy theory bullshit right here, folks.
    You're either Antifa or you're Profa. pick one.

    DaiTengu

    I don't even know what all that lingo means... guess I literally grew up and turned 40.

    A profa is who used to teach me after high school.... ???

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to paulie420 on Wednesday, June 03, 2020 09:03:18
    Re: Antifa basics
    By: paulie420 to DaiTengu on Tue Jun 02 2020 02:32 pm

    This is some grade-A weaponized conspiracy theory bullshit right
    here, folks.
    You're either Antifa or you're Profa. pick one.

    I don't even know what all that lingo means... guess I literally grew up and turned 40.

    A profa is who used to teach me after high school.... ???

    Antifa = Anti-Fascist


    I think the name is stupid, too, but it's apparently a thing.

    So unless you were on the wrong side in WWII, it's doubtful you, or anyone you know is "profa"

    DaiTengu

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to paulie420 on Wednesday, June 03, 2020 08:28:35
    Re: Antifa basics
    By: paulie420 to DaiTengu on Tue Jun 02 2020 02:32 pm

    You're either Antifa or you're Profa. pick one.

    I don't even know what all that lingo means... guess I literally grew up and turned 40.

    A profa is who used to teach me after high school.... ???

    Antifa means "anti-fascist". Antifa is a group that is against fascist ideals & regimes. Profa would mean pro-fascist.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wednesday, June 03, 2020 22:10:13
    Re: Antifa basics
    By: Nightfox to paulie420 on Wed Jun 03 2020 08:28 am

    Re: Antifa basics
    By: paulie420 to DaiTengu on Tue Jun 02 2020 02:32 pm

    You're either Antifa or you're Profa. pick one.

    I don't even know what all that lingo means... guess I literally grew u and turned 40.

    A profa is who used to teach me after high school.... ???

    Antifa means "anti-fascist". Antifa is a group that is against fascist idea & regimes. Profa would mean pro-fascist.



    that's cute they find all these things to call eachother. i call them terrorists.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Wednesday, June 03, 2020 15:21:00
    This is some grade-A weaponized conspiracy theory bullshit right here, folks.

    You're either Antifa or you're Profa. pick one.

    Bullshit. Antifa is about as "anti-fascist" as the brown shirts in Germany were. That is to say, they are not. They are all about anarchy and
    causing chaos. Period.

    I don't care what they say, it is what their actions say that tell us all we need to know about them.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Wednesday, June 03, 2020 15:53:00
    Antifa means "anti-fascist". Antifa is a group that is against fascist ideals
    regimes. Profa would mean pro-fascist.

    that is what they call themselves, but that is not what they really are
    unless your definition of "fascist" is "anything antifa is against."


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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Nightfox on Wednesday, June 03, 2020 20:03:00
    Nightfox wrote to paulie420 <=-

    Re: Antifa basics
    By: paulie420 to DaiTengu on Tue Jun 02 2020 02:32 pm

    You're either Antifa or you're Profa. pick one.

    I don't even know what all that lingo means... guess I literally grew up and turned 40.

    A profa is who used to teach me after high school.... ???

    Antifa means "anti-fascist". Antifa is a group that is against fascist ideals & regimes. Profa would mean pro-fascist.

    Yeah that's what they call themselves but it's a misnomer. If they're anything, it's fascist. I've been casually following their activities on random news reports the last few years and... Well, I'd avoid Portland for a while.

    When I flew my cousin up to Washington, I avoided portland even for the fuel stop.

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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to DaiTengu on Wednesday, June 03, 2020 20:56:00
    DaiTengu wrote to paulie420 <=-

    I think the name is stupid, too, but it's apparently a thing.

    So unless you were on the wrong side in WWII, it's doubtful you, or anyone you know is "profa"

    It's an unfortunate product of our education system. It's really sad.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to DaiTengu on Thursday, June 04, 2020 08:21:00
    DaiTengu wrote to paulie420 <=-

    Antifa = Anti-Fascist

    I think the name is stupid, too, but it's apparently a thing.

    So unless you were on the wrong side in WWII, it's doubtful you, or anyone you know is "profa"

    We see "profa" people all the time. They are called Democrats today.


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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Dumas Walker on Thursday, June 04, 2020 08:58:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to DAITENGU <=-

    This is some grade-A weaponized conspiracy theory bullshit right here,
    folks.


    You're either Antifa or you're Profa. pick one.

    Bullshit. Antifa is about as "anti-fascist" as the brown shirts in Germany were. That is to say, they are not. They are all about
    anarchy and causing chaos. Period.

    I don't care what they say, it is what their actions say that tell us
    all we need to know about them.

    We actually had someone up here trying to tell us they're a "very peaceful anti-fascist group" It didn't go over very well with the locals here. :)



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, June 04, 2020 15:28:00
    Antifa means "anti-fascist". Antifa is a group that is against fascist ide
    & regimes. Profa would mean pro-fascist.

    that's cute they find all these things to call eachother. i call them terrorists.

    That is a much more accurate naming convention.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dumas Walker on Friday, June 05, 2020 14:33:30
    Re: Antifa basics
    By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Wed Jun 03 2020 03:21 pm

    You're either Antifa or you're Profa. pick one.

    Bullshit. Antifa is about as "anti-fascist" as the brown shirts in Germany were. That is to say, they are not. They are all about anarchy and
    causing chaos. Period.

    I don't care what they say, it is what their actions say that tell us all we need to know about them.

    "Antifa" is not a group. it is not organized, no matter what Fox News or the right-wing fearmongers are trying to tell you.

    DaiTengu

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Friday, June 05, 2020 14:35:28
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Thu Jun 04 2020 08:21 am

    I think the name is stupid, too, but it's apparently a thing.

    So unless you were on the wrong side in WWII, it's doubtful you, or
    anyone you know is "profa"

    We see "profa" people all the time. They are called Democrats today.

    You're projecting again.

    Trump demonstrates fascist tendencies on a constant basis. Even Pat Roberts is turning on him, telling hit to dial it back a bit.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to THUMPER on Friday, June 05, 2020 11:33:00
    I don't care what they say, it is what their actions say that tell us all we need to know about them.

    We actually had someone up here trying to tell us they're a "very peaceful anti-fascist group" It didn't go over very well with the locals here. :)

    If most people have heard of them at all, it is probably because of the "peaceful" things they did to people in the Pacific Northwest in the past couple of years. I don't know about you but I don't really feel like being drug out of my car against my will, or having my head busted open, as being very peaceful activities.

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  • From Arelor@VERT to DaiTengu on Friday, June 05, 2020 16:26:45
    Re: Antifa basics
    By: DaiTengu to Dumas Walker on Fri Jun 05 2020 02:33 pm

    "Antifa" is not a group. it is not organized, no matter what Fox News or th right-wing fearmongers are trying to tell you.

    That sounds to me like Anonymous. Anonymous is not a real group, but it is a brand. You associate with that brand when you want to portray what sort of thing you stand for.

    So yeah, you have lots of mini-cells doing their thing instead of a big organization that gives Antifa Cards to its members. It does not mean the Antifa threat does not exist or that the brand should not be criminalized for what it stands for.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Friday, June 05, 2020 19:44:00
    "Antifa" is not a group. it is not organized, no matter what Fox News or the ri
    ght-wing fearmongers are trying to tell you.


    By your definitions (antifa/profa), yes, just like there is not an
    organization called "liberals" or "conservatives." But yes there is a
    group called Antifa (or whatever they call themselves).

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to DaiTengu on Saturday, June 06, 2020 16:43:00
    DaiTengu wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    "Antifa" is not a group. it is not organized, no matter what Fox News
    or the right-wing fearmongers are trying to tell you.

    DaiTengu

    Thank you for validating that you are ultra-left and only spread the Propaganda.

    You must have missed Project Veritas infiltration of Antifa and the Federal gov't declaring Antifa a terrorist organization.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dr. What on Saturday, June 06, 2020 17:23:27
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Sat Jun 06 2020 04:43 pm

    "Antifa" is not a group. it is not organized, no matter what Fox
    News or the right-wing fearmongers are trying to tell you.

    Thank you for validating that you are ultra-left and only spread the Propaganda.

    There are problems but Antifa isn't it.

    Thank you for validating that you are ultra-left and only spread the Propaganda.

    The current problems revolve around injustice not politics.

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Al on Saturday, June 06, 2020 20:14:12
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Al to Dr. What on Sat Jun 06 2020 05:23 pm


    Thank you for validating that you are ultra-left and only spread the Propaganda.

    There are problems but Antifa isn't it.


    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a problem?

    Propaganda.

    The current problems revolve around injustice not politics.


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  • From Baguette@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dr. What on Saturday, June 06, 2020 21:55:00
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Sat Jun 06 2020 04:43 pm

    DaiTengu wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    "Antifa" is not a group. it is not organized, no matter what Fox News or the right-wing fearmongers are trying to tell you.

    DaiTengu

    Thank you for validating that you are ultra-left and only spread the Propaganda.

    You must have missed Project Veritas infiltration of Antifa and the Federal gov't declaring Antifa a terrorist organization.


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    Antifa's a centralized organization now? Damn, why didn't Soros tell me? Must've missed the memo from the A.N.T.I.F.A headquarters.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to MRO on Sunday, June 07, 2020 00:29:57
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: MRO to Al on Sat Jun 06 2020 08:14 pm

    There are problems but Antifa isn't it.

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a problem?

    I don't think Antifa is an organized group that we need to be worried about.

    Are you talking about bricks being left laying around? Look at this..

    https://youtu.be/KHgb8mwFVaI?list=TLPQMDcwNjIwMjC9rx4_jrOyJQ

    I don't know what's really going on there but it's not Antifa.

    The current problems revolve around injustice not politics.

    must be nice to live on whatever planet you live on.

    The current problem is around justice or injustice here on planet earth.

    There are plenty of ways to spin it but that is the problem.

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dr. What on Sunday, June 07, 2020 00:25:00
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Sat Jun 06 2020 04:43 pm

    DaiTengu wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    "Antifa" is not a group. it is not organized, no matter what Fox News or the right-wing fearmongers are trying to tell you.

    DaiTengu

    Thank you for validating that you are ultra-left and only spread the Propaganda.

    You must have missed Project Veritas infiltration of Antifa and the Federal gov't declaring Antifa a terrorist organization.


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    Antifa is considered a headless organization without any central core,
    however in every group there is probably 1 or 2 members steering the cart
    that everyone agrees with. They are similar to the early days of the tea part y movement before they became organized and developed a mission statement.

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  • From Baguette@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sunday, June 07, 2020 00:36:00
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: MRO to Al on Sat Jun 06 2020 08:14 pm

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a problem?

    As far as I'm aware, it's only been the cops leaving out neat little pallets
    of bricks nowhere near any construction sites to bait rioters, so they have
    an excuse to go balls-to-the-wall with their 'I have a big dick' less-than-lethals.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Sunday, June 07, 2020 09:57:00
    Hello Al!

    ** On Sunday 07.06.20 - 03:29, al wrote to MRO:

    There are problems but Antifa isn't it.

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a problem?

    I don't think Antifa is an organized group that we need to be worried about.

    Are you talking about bricks being left laying around? Look at this..

    https://youtu.be/KHgb8mwFVaI?list=TLPQMDcwNjIwMjC9rx4_jrOyJQ

    I don't know what's really going on there but it's not Antifa.


    Not to diminish the severity of the alleged police-supplying-the-bricks matter, but some of the comments in the thread are pretty funny:

    Sergio Parra
    2 hours ago
    The bricks where placed in all over the city's . make the protesters mad
    and then they can get these bricks and brake shit

    Isaac o
    2 hours ago
    Fuck! Even I don't have any bricks and I live in an old brick house that
    needs bricks replaced!

    warb
    1 hour ago
    Then you know now where to get free bricks ;) And as an added bonus you
    help to keep the protests safer.


    Every asset for police use is usually accounted for. The number on the
    roof of that truck should be easy to trace (although the video is pretty grainy for me to see details). Even scrutinizing police records for "purchases of bricks" would look suspicious.

    If that were me, I would not hesitate to get closer to the vehicle (with
    some witnesses for safety) and get better pictures of the police, the
    vehicle and its contents.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Baguette on Sunday, June 07, 2020 08:42:00
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Baguette to MRO on Sun Jun 07 2020 12:36 am

    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: MRO to Al on Sat Jun 06 2020 08:14 pm

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a problem?

    As far as I'm aware, it's only been the cops leaving out neat little pallets of bricks nowhere near any construction sites to bait rioters, so they have an excuse to go balls-to-the-wall with their 'I have a big dick' less-than-lethals.

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  • From Baguette@VERT/CAVEBBS to Moondog on Sunday, June 07, 2020 10:48:00
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Moondog to Baguette on Sun Jun 07 2020 08:42 am

    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Baguette to MRO on Sun Jun 07 2020 12:36 am

    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: MRO to Al on Sat Jun 06 2020 08:14 pm

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a probl

    As far as I'm aware, it's only been the cops leaving out neat little pall of bricks nowhere near any construction sites to bait rioters, so they ha an excuse to go balls-to-the-wall with their 'I have a big dick' less-than-lethals.

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    In my area, the police called Lowes and other supply stores to locate where icks are beigng shipped. whoever is buying them is using pre-paid debit cards so they can't be traced back to a bank account.

    Did you hear that from the police? At this point, I really wouldn't take
    their word for it, what with them shooting at the press and everything.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Baguette on Sunday, June 07, 2020 10:27:00
    Baguette wrote to MRO <=-

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a problem?

    As far as I'm aware, it's only been the cops leaving out neat
    little pallets of bricks nowhere near any construction sites to
    bait rioters, so they have an excuse to go balls-to-the-wall with
    their 'I have a big dick' less-than-lethals.

    That's about the stupidest thing I've read in a LONG time.



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  • From Arelor@VERT to Gamgee on Sunday, June 07, 2020 12:00:29
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Gamgee to Baguette on Sun Jun 07 2020 10:27 am

    That's about the stupidest thing I've read in a LONG time.

    If you go the conspiranoic route, there is no end to your path.

    Obviously the cops who are supplying bricks to rioters have been bought by The Enemy, who is using riots to Destroy America.

    The Enemy is a tribe of space lizzards by the way.

    Ok, sorry for the joking tone. I know this is serious. But I could not resist... you know, when the Spanish Legion wants to break havoc, they do so without uniforms and using no identifiable symbols or assets. If three moors beat a Legion member, 20 legionaries will show up and rought them up, but they won't let themselves be identified as Legionaries... that cops would promote mayhem while letting themselves be identified easily is so "lol" and stupid... not an idea to dismiss, but if so, what sort of LEOs are cities employing...

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Ogg on Sunday, June 07, 2020 16:27:50
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Ogg to All on Sun Jun 07 2020 09:57 am

    Every asset for police use is usually accounted for. The number on the roof of that truck should be easy to trace (although the video is pretty grainy for me to see details). Even scrutinizing police records for "purchases of bricks" would look suspicious.

    Yes, that video could use a fact check. I don't know how that truck got there or what they were doing. I like to believe we can count on the police to protect and serve although that isn't always easy.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Al on Sunday, June 07, 2020 21:24:12
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Al to MRO on Sun Jun 07 2020 12:29 am

    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: MRO to Al on Sat Jun 06 2020 08:14 pm

    There are problems but Antifa isn't it.

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a proble

    I don't think Antifa is an organized group that we need to be worried about.

    antifa is organized in a disorganized manner. that may sound confusing but their very organization depends on them being so loosely formed. it allows them to act in a very fluid manner and you can't cut the head off a snake if there are so many other heads. they still share resources and communicate. so that is enough organization to be dangerous.

    I don't know what's really going on there but it's not Antifa.

    did you see the video of the antifa guy passing out money to black kids and telling them to grab picnic benches to block stuff or whatever?

    The current problem is around justice or injustice here on planet earth. There are plenty of ways to spin it but that is the problem.

    the current problem is people being controlled and told how to think.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Baguette on Sunday, June 07, 2020 21:29:55
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Baguette to MRO on Sun Jun 07 2020 12:36 am

    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: MRO to Al on Sat Jun 06 2020 08:14 pm

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a problem?

    As far as I'm aware, it's only been the cops leaving out neat little pallets of bricks nowhere near any construction sites to bait rioters, so they have an excuse to go balls-to-the-wall with their 'I have a big dick' less-than-lethals.

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  • From Baguette@VERT/CAVEBBS to Gamgee on Sunday, June 07, 2020 21:47:00
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Gamgee to Baguette on Sun Jun 07 2020 10:27 am

    Baguette wrote to MRO <=-

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a problem?

    As far as I'm aware, it's only been the cops leaving out neat
    little pallets of bricks nowhere near any construction sites to
    bait rioters, so they have an excuse to go balls-to-the-wall with
    their 'I have a big dick' less-than-lethals.

    That's about the stupidest thing I've read in a LONG time.



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    Is it? From what I've seen, the filth's /itching/ for an excuse to open fire
    on these guys.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Monday, June 08, 2020 08:04:15
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Sat Jun 06 2020 04:43 pm

    Thank you for validating that you are ultra-left and only spread the Propaganda.

    Yeah, I'm pretty liberal. I don't know if I'd qualify as "ultra left" though, And if by "Propaganda" you mean "facts backed by mountains of evidence", sure, guilty as charged, I guess.

    You must have missed Project Veritas infiltration of Antifa and the Federal gov't declaring Antifa a terrorist organization.

    "Project Veritas" is a joke. It manufactures more evidence during each "investigation" than every news outlet in the country (no matter what the perceived bias of the organization is) has over the last decade, combined.

    The Federal Government didn't declare Antifa as a "domestic terrorist organization". It can't. There is no such classification.

    It was Trump just talking out of his ass, again.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to Al on Monday, June 08, 2020 11:38:00
    Al wrote to Dr. What <=-

    There are problems but Antifa isn't it.

    Yes, there are problems and Antifa is not helping. As a matter of fact, it's one of the problems.

    The current problems revolve around injustice not politics.

    "Justice". Right...

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to DaiTengu on Monday, June 08, 2020 11:53:00
    DaiTengu wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    "Antifa" is not a group. it is not organized, no matter what Fox News
    or the right-wing fearmongers are trying to tell you.

    Yes, we keep hearing that Narrative. It doesn't match reality (no surprise).


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Baguette on Monday, June 08, 2020 10:51:00
    Baguette wrote to Gamgee <=-

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a problem?

    As far as I'm aware, it's only been the cops leaving out neat
    little pallets of bricks nowhere near any construction sites to
    bait rioters, so they have an excuse to go balls-to-the-wall with
    their 'I have a big dick' less-than-lethals.

    That's about the stupidest thing I've read in a LONG time.

    Is it?

    Yes, it is.


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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Dumas Walker on Monday, June 08, 2020 08:25:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to THUMPER <=-

    I don't care what they say, it is what their actions say that tell us all we need to know about them.

    We actually had someone up here trying to tell us they're a "very peaceful anti-fascist group" It didn't go over very well with the locals here. :)

    If most people have heard of them at all, it is probably because of the "peaceful" things they did to people in the Pacific Northwest in the
    past couple of years. I don't know about you but I don't really feel
    like being drug out of my car against my will, or having my head busted open, as being very peaceful activities.

    I hear that! The also caused a lot of issues in Berkely and Oakland a year or so back. Everything remained peaceful in our area but a huge turnout of Motorcycles lined the opposite side of the street and that might have helped.



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Baguette on Monday, June 08, 2020 15:03:00
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Baguette to Moondog on Sun Jun 07 2020 10:48 am

    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Moondog to Baguette on Sun Jun 07 2020 08:42 am

    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Baguette to MRO on Sun Jun 07 2020 12:36 am

    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: MRO to Al on Sat Jun 06 2020 08:14 pm

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a pr

    As far as I'm aware, it's only been the cops leaving out neat little p of bricks nowhere near any construction sites to bait rioters, so they an excuse to go balls-to-the-wall with their 'I have a big dick' less-than-lethals.

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    In my area, the police called Lowes and other supply stores to locate whe icks are beigng shipped. whoever is buying them is using pre-paid debit cards so they can't be traced back to a bank account.

    Did you hear that from the police? At this point, I really wouldn't take their word for it, what with them shooting at the press and everything.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Monday, June 08, 2020 16:52:10
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Dr. What to Al on Mon Jun 08 2020 11:38 am

    Al wrote to Dr. What <=-

    There are problems but Antifa isn't it.

    Yes, there are problems and Antifa is not helping. As a matter of fact, it' one of the problems.


    also antifa just tried to burn down a church.
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  • From Baguette@VERT/CAVEBBS to Gamgee on Monday, June 08, 2020 22:07:00
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Gamgee to Baguette on Mon Jun 08 2020 10:51 am

    Baguette wrote to Gamgee <=-

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a probl

    As far as I'm aware, it's only been the cops leaving out neat
    little pallets of bricks nowhere near any construction sites to
    bait rioters, so they have an excuse to go balls-to-the-wall with their 'I have a big dick' less-than-lethals.

    That's about the stupidest thing I've read in a LONG time.

    Is it?

    Yes, it is.


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    Thanks for cutting off the rest of my post, friend.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to THUMPER on Monday, June 08, 2020 19:23:00
    I hear that! The also caused a lot of issues in Berkely and Oakland a year or
    so back. Everything remained peaceful in our area but a huge turnout of >Motorcycles lined the opposite side of the street and that might have helped.

    I read an article somewhere that the Hell's Angels and another motorcycle
    gang were planning to show up at some of the planned protests on the West
    Coast to make sure that things didn't get out of hand.

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  • From Arelor@VERT to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, June 09, 2020 04:13:07
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Dumas Walker to THUMPER on Mon Jun 08 2020 07:23 pm

    I read an article somewhere that the Hell's Angels and another motorcycle gang were planning to show up at some of the planned protests on the West Coast to make sure that things didn't get out of hand.

    It reminds me of that time when a nazi squad moved from a nearby city to beat a South American gang that was trying to extort tolls from passers-by in a park. Well, they did more things, but they were known for the "toll".

    It is a crazy world we live in. I only want to be left alone with my Bourbon.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Baguette on Tuesday, June 09, 2020 09:26:58
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Baguette to Gamgee on Mon Jun 08 2020 10:07 pm

    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Gamgee to Baguette on Mon Jun 08 2020 10:51 am

    Baguette wrote to Gamgee <=-

    a terrorist organization that leaves out weapons for mobs isnt a probl

    As far as I'm aware, it's only been the cops leaving out neat little pallets of bricks nowhere near any construction sites to bait rioters, so they have an excuse to go balls-to-the-wall with their 'I have a big dick' less-than-lethals.

    That's about the stupidest thing I've read in a LONG time.

    Is it?

    Yes, it is.

    Thanks for cutting off the rest of my post, friend.

    Oh, you mean the part where you called the police "filth"?

    Yeah, I don't quote garbage like that.

    Screw you.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Monday, June 08, 2020 22:15:40
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Mon Jun 08 2020 11:53 am

    "Antifa" is not a group. it is not organized, no matter what Fox
    News or the right-wing fearmongers are trying to tell you.

    Yes, we keep hearing that Narrative. It doesn't match reality (no surprise).

    It doesn't match the Fox News Bubble "reality", but here in the really-real world, it does.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/TWODUDES to DaiTengu on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 09:14:00
    DaiTengu wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yes, we keep hearing that Narrative. It doesn't match reality (no surprise).

    It doesn't match the Fox News Bubble "reality", but here in the really-real world, it does.

    Ah, yes. The normal Leftie excuse for not believing the Narrative. It must be that evil Fox news.

    You lefties seem to think that information only can come through the Media. So if I ignore the Propaganda from fake news sources like CNN, CBS, NBC, etc., then I **must** be getting it from Fox.

    You really have much to learn.

    I've already learned that **none** of the usual Media sources can be trusted. Fox decided to differentiate themselves by bucking the Leftie Narrative. But they are just as untrustworthy as the rest of the fake "news" networks.


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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 07:43:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to THUMPER <=-

    I hear that! The also caused a lot of issues in Berkely and Oakland a year
    r
    so back. Everything remained peaceful in our area but a huge turnout of
    Motorcycles lined the opposite side of the street and that might have helped.

    I read an article somewhere that the Hell's Angels and another
    motorcycle gang were planning to show up at some of the planned
    protests on the West Coast to make sure that things didn't get out of hand.

    That's exactly what happened. Mostly local Bikers but a few Hell's Angels.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Thursday, June 11, 2020 23:02:22
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Wed Jun 10 2020 09:14 am

    I've already learned that **none** of the usual Media sources can be trusted. Fox decided to differentiate themselves by bucking the Leftie Narrative. But they are just as untrustworthy as the rest of the fake "news" networks.


    I don't watch any of the news networks. I do listen to the BBC world news here and there throughout the day, and sometimes NPR's hourly news roundup.

    Most of my news comes from news aggregators, or articles my friends and family (some are far left, some are far right, some, like me, sit more in the middle) post on the social media interweb machines.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Friday, June 12, 2020 11:11:00
    Most of my news comes from news aggregators, or articles my friends and family
    some are far left, some are far right, some, like me, sit more in the middle) st on the social media interweb machines.

    Post on social media are just as bad/worse than the news networks. I take
    a lot of them for their comical value but am skeptical of anything that I
    read on them.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dumas Walker on Friday, June 12, 2020 23:35:11
    Re: Re: Antifa basics
    By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Fri Jun 12 2020 11:11 am

    Post on social media are just as bad/worse than the news networks. I take a lot of them for their comical value but am skeptical of anything that I read on them.

    It depends upon the source. I'm not talking about unsourced image macros.

    DaiTengu

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