• Trump was prepared during

    From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to All on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 03:26:00
    While Dems were pushing impeachment, Trump was watching the gathering storm and
    Biden was demonizing him.

    1/15 - Pelosi holds vote to send articles of impeachment to Senate
    1/23 - China closes off Wuhan completely
    1/30 - Senate begins two days of questions
    1/30 - WHO declares a global health emergency as COVID 19 spreads
    1/31 - Trump declares a national health emergency and imposes China travel ban 1/31 Biden calls Trump's Chinese travel ban "hysterical xenophobia ... and fear mongering"
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MATTHEW MUNSON on Thursday, March 19, 2020 15:37:16
    Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to All on Wed Mar 18 2020 03:26 am

    1/15 - Pelosi holds vote to send articles of impeachment to Senate
    1/23 - China closes off Wuhan completely
    1/30 - Senate begins two days of questions
    1/30 - WHO declares a global health emergency as COVID 19 spreads
    1/31 - Trump declares a national health emergency and imposes China travel ban 1/31 Biden calls Trump's Chinese travel ban "hysterical xenophobia ... and fear mongering" ---


    The "National Health Emergency" was declared on March 13.

    Here's a timeline of Trump's statements over the past couple months:

    Jan. 22: "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China."
    Feb. 2: "We pretty much shut it down coming in from China. It's going to be fine."
    Feb. 24: "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"
    Feb. 25: "CDC & my administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus."
    Feb. 25: "I think that's a problem that's going to go away." and "They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we're very close to a vaccine."
    Feb. 26: "We're going very substantially down, not up." (in regards to numbers of people infected. It was not, and is still not the case)
    Feb. 27: "One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear."
    Feb. 28: "We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical."
    March 2: "You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?" (No, you orange idiot. That's not how these things work)
    March 2: "A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they're happening very rapidly."
    March 4: "If we have thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work - some of them go to work, but they get better." (Comment was made while the CDC was urging people to stay home from work if they could)
    March 4: "I never said people that are feeling sick should go to work." (No, but you said that some do, and appeared to condone it)
    March 6: "I think we're doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down. a tremendous job at keeping it down."

    March 6: "Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. And the tests are beautiful. They are perfect just like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good." (I'm singling this out because... goddamn. I don't even know where to start with it. To this day, not everyone who needs a test can get a test. the rest of it... WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!)

    March 6: "I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, `How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president." (....)
    March 6: "I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship"
    March 8: "We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on Coronavirus."
    March 9: "The Fake News media & their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power to inflame the Coronavirus situation."
    March 10: "It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away."



    It doesn't seem to be going away. In fact, 3 days later, Trump declared a National Emergency. His tune has completely changed from "It will go away" to "Oh, this might be a problem".

    How anyone can support a person that is this unhinged is completely beyond me.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to DaiTengu on Thursday, March 19, 2020 23:38:54
    Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: DaiTengu to MATTHEW MUNSON on Thu Mar 19 2020 03:37 pm

    It doesn't seem to be going away. In fact, 3 days later, Trump declared a National Emergency. His tune has completely changed from "It will go away" to "Oh, this might be a problem".


    At first it did not appear to be so bad, It was all isolated cases and they were quarentined.
    if China had acted quickly and not covered up the magnatude of the outbreak and allowed other Nations in to help get it under controll it could have been minor.
    and when Trump issued the first travel ban in January the usual idiots boarded the stupid train calling him a racist and xenophob Clearly Trump reacted swift to try and contain the outbreak.
    Had it not been for Trumps quick action it would be much much worse like Italy and China.

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  • From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to DaiTengu on Friday, March 20, 2020 01:07:22
    Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: DaiTengu to MATTHEW MUNSON on Thu Mar 19 2020 03:37 pm

    Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to All on Wed Mar 18 2020 03:26 am

    1/15 - Pelosi holds vote to send articles of impeachment to Senate
    1/23 - China closes off Wuhan completely
    1/30 - Senate begins two days of questions
    1/30 - WHO declares a global health emergency as COVID 19 spreads
    1/31 - Trump declares a national health emergency and imposes China travel ban 1/31 Biden calls Trump's Chinese travel ban "hysterical xenophobia ... and fear mongering" ---


    The "National Health Emergency" was declared on March 13.

    Here's a timeline of Trump's statements over the past couple months:

    Jan. 22: "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China."
    Feb. 2: "We pretty much shut it down coming in from China. It's going to be fine."
    Feb. 24: "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"
    Feb. 25: "CDC & my administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus."
    Feb. 25: "I think that's a problem that's going to go away." and "They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we're very close to a vaccine." Feb. 26: "We're going very substantially down, not up." (in regards to numbers of people infected. It was not, and is still not the case)
    Feb. 27: "One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear."
    Feb. 28: "We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical."
    March 2: "You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?" (No, you orange idiot. That's not how these things work)
    March 2: "A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they're happening very rapidly."
    March 4: "If we have thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work - some of them go to work, but they get better." (Comment was made while the CDC was urging people to stay home from work if they could)
    March 4: "I never said people that are feeling sick should go to work."
    (No, but you said that some do, and appeared to condone it)
    March 6: "I think we're doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down. a tremendous job at keeping it down."

    March 6: "Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. And the tests are beautiful. They are perfect just like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good." (I'm singling this out because... goddamn. I don't even know where to start with it. To this day, not everyone who needs a test can get a test. the rest of it... WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!)

    March 6: "I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, `How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president." (....)
    March 6: "I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship"
    March 8: "We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on Coronavirus."
    March 9: "The Fake News media & their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power to inflame the Coronavirus situation."
    March 10: "It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away."



    It doesn't seem to be going away. In fact, 3 days later, Trump declared a National Emergency. His tune has completely changed from "It will go away" to "Oh, this might be a problem".

    How anyone can support a person that is this unhinged is completely beyond me.

    DaiTengu

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    Beg to differ...

    President Trump declared the (as then called) novel corona*virus a national health emergency on 31 January. As reported by NPR:
    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/01/31/801686524/trump-declares- coronavirus-a-public-health-emergency-and-restricts-travel-from-c

    Trump declared a national STATE of emergency on 13 March. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/politics/coronavirus-national-emergency.h tml

    If you're doing to try to demonize the President, you need to learn how to*read, improve your reading comprehension, and learn the difference between declaring a health emergency and a national state of emergency.

    I think the ones who are unhinged are the ones who are willing to say what it takes to demonize a sitting President while ignoring the actual facts of the matter.

    Have a virus-free day...

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  • From HSM@VERT/FREESPEA to Denn on Friday, March 20, 2020 06:18:00
    On 19 Mar 2020, Denn said the following...
    Had it not been for Trumps quick action it would be much much worse like and China.

    One of the first symptoms of COVID19 is amnesia. Are you also running a
    fever?

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Weatherman on Friday, March 20, 2020 08:28:57
    Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: Weatherman to DaiTengu on Fri Mar 20 2020 01:07 am

    President Trump declared the (as then called) novel corona*virus a national health emergency on 31 January. As reported by NPR: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/01/31/801686524/trump-decla res- coronavirus-a-public-health-emergency-and-restricts-travel-from-c

    Trump declared a national STATE of emergency on 13 March. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/politics/coronavirus-national-emerge ncy.h tml


    Fair enough, I did spend some time trying to find the original declaration before I wrote that post, but the content of it still stands. He downplayed the severity of it, claimed it wasn't that bad, claimed it would just "go away" and falsely said "Anybody who needs a test gets a test" on March 6. That wasn't true then, and it's still not true now, 2 weeks later.


    If you're doing to try to demonize the President, you need to learn how to*read, improve your reading comprehension, and learn the difference between declaring a health emergency and a national state of emergency.

    I don't need to try to demonize him, he does a perfectly good job of that on his own.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to HSM on Friday, March 20, 2020 14:32:35
    Re: Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: HSM to Denn on Fri Mar 20 2020 06:18 am

    Had it not been for Trumps quick action it would be much much worse
    like and China.

    One of the first symptoms of COVID19 is amnesia. Are you also running a fever?


    ? Not even sure what to make of your incoherent statement.
    1st Trump issued a travel ban in january and they called him hysterical and racist, had he not done so it would be much worse, so step off the crazy hate train and be thankful we have a tough decisive President.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to DaiTengu on Friday, March 20, 2020 15:16:29
    Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: DaiTengu to Weatherman on Fri Mar 20 2020 08:28 am

    I don't need to try to demonize him, he does a perfectly good job of that on his own.


    Uhmmmm No,
    Democrats are still pissed off that Trump won and they can't get over it. everything he does is demonized by the left leaning press, Democrats, stupid shows like the View.
    Crooked Hillery LOST GET OVER IT!
    or just keep crying in your beer at this point most of us conservatives are just bored to tears listening to your whining.
    Everything that they throw at him usually boomarangs back to them.
    Trump Defends himself against those who demonize him, he does not demonize himself.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Denn on Sunday, March 22, 2020 08:55:00
    Denn wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    Everything that they throw at him usually boomarangs back to them.
    Trump Defends himself against those who demonize him, he does not
    demonize himself.

    In the eyes of the Left, Trump does demonize himself.

    To the Left:
    Record unemployment is an evil thing. It removes people from the Dependant Class that the Democrats have been growing for many generations.
    Record properity is also an evil thing. Again, it removes people from the Democrat Plantations.
    Standing up to China is an evil thing. Mostly because the Left loves the idea of Communism and wants to see it take over...er.. wipe out all civilization.

    Simply put, to the Left, Trump is evil incarnate since he is systematically dismantling the political machine the Left put in place to destroy our country.

    But what's worse: Trump is bucking the Left's Narrative. And that shakes them to the core.


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dr. What on Monday, March 23, 2020 01:44:54
    Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: Dr. What to Denn on Sun Mar 22 2020 08:55 am

    Simply put, to the Left, Trump is evil incarnate since he is systematically dismantling the political machine the Left put in place to destroy our country.
    But what's worse: Trump is bucking the Left's Narrative. And that shakes them to the core.

    I can't disagree on anything above :)

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Denn on Monday, March 23, 2020 12:20:20
    Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: Denn to DaiTengu on Fri Mar 20 2020 03:16 pm

    I don't need to try to demonize him, he does a perfectly good job of
    that on his own.

    Uhmmmm No,
    Democrats are still pissed off that Trump won and they can't get over it.

    He won't let them. And that's not a good thing. He lies about things that are easily debunked and repeats them ad-nauseum, even after he's been proven wrong.
    He screams on Twitter every day about the stupidest shit. He constantly contradicts statements put out by his own administration, and even things he's said himself.

    He's a raging narcissist, has an obvious infatuation with dictators and despots, demands unquestioning loyalty from his subordinates, demonises the free press every chance he gets, and is blatantly violating the Emoluments Clause.


    It's not the election Democrats are upset about. It's the things the President does on a daily basis.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to DaiTengu on Monday, March 23, 2020 14:54:58
    Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: DaiTengu to Denn on Mon Mar 23 2020 12:20 pm

    I don't need to try to demonize him, he does a perfectly good job
    of that on his own.

    Uhmmmm No,
    Democrats are still pissed off that Trump won and they can't get
    over it.

    He won't let them. And that's not a good thing. He lies about things that are easily debunked and repeats them ad-nauseum, even after he's been proven wrong. He screams on Twitter every day about the stupidest shit. He constantly contradicts statements put out by his own administration, and even things he's said himself.

    Come on let's be at least a little bit honest here, the left started their crap the moment the election resaults were in, btw we're still waiting for all those celebs that promised to leave the country if Trump won to leave, So far that hasn't happened has it?
    And actually it's the so called media that spreads the lies like collusion, quid pro quo etc.. 3 years of Russia Russia Russia and there was no collusion, yet CNN, MSNBS and the New York Times just to mention a few used their time and efforts to to sway public oppinion of these false narratives.
    and when you say easily debunked well that's really not true is it.
    Trump has to use things like twitter to talk directly to us because the bastards at CNN, MSNBC and the New York Times won't report the truth.
    What there really was however is Joe Bidens Qiud Pro Quo, "fire the
    prosecutor or you aint getting the Billion Dollars" they were investigating the company Joe's son was working for, and yes they fired the Prosecutor.
    Hillary and the DNC bought and paid for the Dossier that was used to Illeagally spy on a political opponant's campaign, this is Watergate all over maybe worse.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Denn on Monday, March 23, 2020 17:41:39
    Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: Denn to DaiTengu on Mon Mar 23 2020 02:54 pm

    Come on let's be at least a little bit honest here, the left started their crap the moment the election resaults were in, btw we're still waiting for all those celebs that promised to leave the country if Trump won to leave, So far that hasn't happened has it?
    And actually it's the so called media that spreads the lies like collusion, quid pro quo etc.. 3 years of Russia Russia Russia and there was no collusion, yet CNN, MSNBS and the New York Times just to mention a few used their time and efforts to to sway public oppinion of these false narratives.
    and when you say easily debunked well that's really not true is it.
    Trump has to use things like twitter to talk directly to us because the bastards at CNN, MSNBC and the New York Times won't report the truth.
    What there really was however is Joe Bidens Qiud Pro Quo, "fire the prosecutor or you aint getting the Billion Dollars" they were investigating the company Joe's son was working for, and yes they fired the Prosecutor.
    Hillary and the DNC bought and paid for the Dossier that was used to Illeagally spy on a political opponant's campaign, this is Watergate all over maybe worse.


    Great, none of that deals with any of my original arguments. Trump is a liar. Trump is obsessed with dictators/despots, and Trump only cares about himself.


    You whine about the media, then repeat word-for-word what the media has been feeding you.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to DaiTengu on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 01:29:36
    Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: DaiTengu to Denn on Mon Mar 23 2020 05:41 pm

    Come on let's be at least a little bit honest here, the left started
    their crap the moment the election resaults were in, btw we're still


    Great, none of that deals with any of my original arguments. Trump is a liar. Trump is obsessed with dictators/despots, and Trump only cares about himself.

    You say Trump is a liar but you don't show where he lied, I see most things he says that the meadia takes and contorts and then runs with the lie and leftist's don't even fact check it.
    Trump is doing everything he promised he would do, I already posted all that in a message some time back so no need to repost it.
    The Trump haters are going to say whatever they wan't It doesnt matter how much you point them to the fact's because they hate our president.
    Here's the thing, Leftist's don't want a Debate, they just want to shovel the bullshit but they won't listen to facts or reason.
    but it is what it is, enjoy the next 4 years of Trump, I know I will :)

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  • From HSM@VERT/FREESPEA to Denn on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 12:52:00
    On 24 Mar 2020, Denn said the following...
    You say Trump is a liar but you don't show where he lied, I see most thin says that the meadia takes and contorts and then runs with the lie and leftist's don't even fact check it.
    Trump is doing everything he promised he would do, I already posted all t in a message some time back so no need to repost it.
    The Trump haters are going to say whatever they wan't It doesnt matter ho much you point them to the fact's because they hate our president.
    Here's the thing, Leftist's don't want a Debate, they just want to shovel bullshit but they won't listen to facts or reason.
    but it is what it is, enjoy the next 4 years of Trump, I know I will :)


    What's he at now.. like 16,000 lies and misleading claims? Every time he speaks publicly the networks have to follow up with a fact check because he simply can't stop lying. The trump cult is going to say whatever they want,
    It doesn't matter how much you point them to the facts because they worship
    the guy and believe everything he says.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to HSM on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 14:48:57
    Re: Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: HSM to Denn on Tue Mar 24 2020 12:52 pm

    What's he at now.. like 16,000 lies and misleading claims? Every time he speaks publicly the networks have to follow up with a fact check because he simply can't stop lying. The trump cult is going to say whatever they want, It doesn't matter how much you point them to the facts because they worship the guy and believe everything he says.

    Ok it's clear you have your CNN blinders on and you're very dishonest.
    when you say the networks I assume you mean CNN and MSNBC that btw have no credibilty in Journalism, they used to report news, but now sadly they report opinion leftist propaganda.
    you people alway's use the same tactic's you make claims that you think we should just accept because you said so?
    or you use a sheild like it's for the children, or It's proven science.
    you people never prove your point you just say shit and expect everyone to accept what you say.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Denn on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 07:11:01
    Re: Trump was prepared during
    By: Denn to DaiTengu on Tue Mar 24 2020 01:29 am

    You say Trump is a liar but you don't show where he lied, I see most things he says that the meadia takes and contorts and then runs with the lie and leftist's don't even fact check it.

    "Anybody that needs a test gets a test. They're there. They have the tests and the tests are beautiful. Anybody that needs a test gets a test.."

    That wasn't true when he said it, March 6. It's still not true today.

    Trump has repeatedly said the Coronavirus was "contained" and "under control". He said "It's going to disappear".

    Wasn't true then. still not true now.

    Here's a starting place for a list of lies Trump has told, along with fact checks: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/

    I know, I know, *WHINE* WASHINGTON POST IS A LEFTIST RAG! blah blah blah. You're smart enough to read the facts and follow the trails, and do your own research, right? As I said, it's a starting point. You claimed things were never fact-checked, and I've now provided evidence that they are.

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