• Prince Andrew

    From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to All on Tuesday, November 19, 2019 23:19:56
    Just heard the BBC Prince Andrew interview, he must be innocent because he denied everything and had a story for every arrow flung at him.
    <<SARCASM>>
    He lied through his royal teeth about sex with underaged girls.
    From what I hear there are documents comming out that implicate several high powered people including Bill Clinton.
    wonder who else will be snared.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Denn on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 08:48:33
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Denn to All on Tue Nov 19 2019 11:19 pm

    Just heard the BBC Prince Andrew interview, he must be innocent because he denied everything and had a story for every arrow flung at him. <<SARCASM>>
    He lied through his royal teeth about sex with underaged girls.
    From what I hear there are documents comming out that implicate several high powered people including Bill Clinton.

    I don't like this idea that all women have to do is say that had sex with someone and that makes them a rapist or child molester. They just want the money.

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  • From Kaboom@VERT/DYNAMITE to Denn on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 08:41:14
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Denn to All on Tue Nov 19 2019 11:19 pm

    Just heard the BBC Prince Andrew interview, he must be innocent because he denied everything and had a story for every arrow flung at him. <<SARCASM>>
    He lied through his royal teeth about sex with underaged girls.
    From what I hear there are documents comming out that implicate several high powered people including Bill Clinton.
    wonder who else will be snared.

    Listened to that myself over the past few days, Alex Jones does a lot of yacking about that whole ordeal. Sounds like there is to many people to even mention that became part of that web with Epstein.

    Hopefully some of these sickos get busted, but who knows... The FBI is now investigating it as a criminal matter... His death that is...

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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZZONE to Denn on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 11:44:10
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Denn to All on Tue Nov 19 2019 11:19 pm

    Just heard the BBC Prince Andrew interview, he must be innocent because he denied everything and had a story for every arrow flung at him.
    <<SARCASM>>
    He lied through his royal teeth about sex with underaged girls.
    From what I hear there are documents comming out that implicate several high powered people including Bill Clinton.
    wonder who else will be snared.

    ... A power so great, it can only be used for Good or Evil!


    This stuff was all the rage back before the election when Hillary was running. But nobody paid attention to it, especially the liberal media. Anyone (like me) who posted about it was called a conspiracy theoriest and laughed at.

    It is WAY deeper than just a couple old powerful white dudes with young girls. There's a whole other side to the story involving his mistress and her father and his role in corruption in a country where he was a power player.

    But I doubt that will come to light again as it did in 15.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZZONE to HusTler on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 11:49:00
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to Denn on Wed Nov 20 2019 08:48 am

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Denn to All on Tue Nov 19 2019 11:19 pm

    Just heard the BBC Prince Andrew interview, he must be innocent because denied everything and had a story for every arrow flung at him. <<SARCASM>>
    He lied through his royal teeth about sex with underaged girls.
    From what I hear there are documents comming out that implicate several high powered people including Bill Clinton.

    I don't like this idea that all women have to do is say that had sex with

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    By the same token, I don't like that all a female has to say is she wants an abortion and its her body so its ok... even if she's underage and has no clue about her medical conditions, and can do so without her parent's consent.

    What about the father? Does he have no rights because the child isn't in his body, even tho his body is equally responsible for creating it?

    In the case of a minor, how can she know what's best for her body when she doesn't even understand basic high school biology yet?

    Or the ramifications / consequences of her decisions later in her physical and mental lifetime?

    In this country right now we are giving too much consideration to hearsay as you pointed out, and "feelings" and broad brush strokes to try and cover every little person with a complaint.

    I am also tired of people calling other people racists and their justification is "As a black woman...." <--- is that not a racist statement right there? Suggestion that a certain person of a certain physical and biological makeup might be superior to another when it comes to their understanding of something, even if the other is the same age, same sex, and comes from the same location?

    this country sux now.
    we're a bunch of wuss bags.

    HOLY COW what a rant...



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 16:08:37
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to Denn on Wed Nov 20 2019 08:48 am

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Denn to All on Tue Nov 19 2019 11:19 pm

    Just heard the BBC Prince Andrew interview, he must be innocent because denied everything and had a story for every arrow flung at him. <<SARCASM>>
    He lied through his royal teeth about sex with underaged girls.
    From what I hear there are documents comming out that implicate several high powered people including Bill Clinton.

    I don't like this idea that all women have to do is say that had sex with someone and that makes them a rapist or child molester. They just want the money.


    well, this is different. there's documentation of the plane visits and the company they kept.
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Zombie Mambo on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 20:58:42
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Zombie Mambo to HusTler on Wed Nov 20 2019 11:49 am

    By the same token, I don't like that all a female has to say is she wants an abortion and its her body so its ok... even if she's underage and has

    What about the father? Does he have no rights because the child isn't in his body, even tho his body is equally responsible for creating it?

    OH Man! You and me need to get together for a Beer. I've never heard another man say that. I divorced my wife over abortion. She killed two of my children. It's not a baby yet she'd say. WTF??

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to MRO on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 21:03:24
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: MRO to HusTler on Wed Nov 20 2019 04:08 pm

    well, this is different. there's documentation of the plane visits and the company they kept.
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    I'm not defending him. I'm just saying a lot of women are coming out destroying Mens lives cause they had sex with them 20 years ago. It's pathetic.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Kaboom on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 21:38:51
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Kaboom to Denn on Wed Nov 20 2019 08:41 am

    Listened to that myself over the past few days, Alex Jones does a lot of yacking about that whole ordeal. Sounds like there is to many people to even mention that became part of that web with Epstein.


    apparently the entire world is ran by pedophiles.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 21:42:38
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to MRO on Wed Nov 20 2019 09:03 pm

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: MRO to HusTler on Wed Nov 20 2019 04:08 pm

    well, this is different. there's documentation of the plane visits and company they kept.
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    I'm not defending him. I'm just saying a lot of women are coming out destroying Mens lives cause they had sex with them 20 years ago. It's pathet


    i think the way to deal with it how james franco did it. he just denied that things went that way. in his case his girlfriend blew him in a limo and she felt bad about it much later and for some reason she had to join metoo.

    morgan spurlock and louis ck are two casualties that didnt deserve it.

    people love witchhunts.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to HusTler on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 19:18:27
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to MRO on Wed Nov 20 2019 09:03 pm

    I'm not defending him. I'm just saying a lot of women are coming out destroying Mens lives cause they had sex with them 20 years ago. It's pathetic.

    So, if there was inappropriate sexual contact, you think it's pathetic for the women to come out and defend themselves?

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 22:26:04
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Nightfox to HusTler on Wed Nov 20 2019 07:18 pm

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to MRO on Wed Nov 20 2019 09:03 pm

    I'm not defending him. I'm just saying a lot of women are coming out destroying Mens lives cause they had sex with them 20 years ago. It's pathetic.

    So, if there was inappropriate sexual contact, you think it's pathetic for t women to come out and defend themselves?



    i've been raped. and then i went back for more rape.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 23:19:21
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: MRO to HusTler on Wed Nov 20 2019 04:08 pm

    I don't like this idea that all women have to do is say that had sex
    with someone and that makes them a rapist or child molester. They just
    want the money.


    well, this is different. there's documentation of the plane visits and the company they kept.

    Not only documents but video's and photo's
    btw Epstien didn't kill himself

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Nightfox on Thursday, November 21, 2019 05:44:32
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Nightfox to HusTler on Wed Nov 20 2019 07:18 pm

    So, if there was inappropriate sexual contact, you think it's pathetic for the women to come out and defend themselves?

    No. I just feel there should be a time limit when legal charges can be made.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to HusTler on Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:42:48
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to MRO on Wed Nov 20 2019 09:03 pm

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: MRO to HusTler on Wed Nov 20 2019 04:08 pm

    well, this is different. there's documentation of the plane visits and the company they kept.
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    I'm not defending him. I'm just saying a lot of women are coming out destroying Mens lives cause they had sex with them 20 years ago. It's pathetic.

    But a lot of men's "lives have been destroyed" (imprisoned, careers canceled, etc.) because they raped or sexually-assaulted/harassed some women years ago. I think there have been a lot more real accusations than false ones. And that's a good thing.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:43:57
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Nov 20 2019 10:26 pm

    i've been raped. and then i went back for more rape.

    Then it wasn't rape.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to HusTler on Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:40:50
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to Nightfox on Thu Nov 21 2019 05:44 am

    So, if there was inappropriate sexual contact, you think it's
    pathetic for the women to come out and defend themselves?

    No. I just feel there should be a time limit when legal charges can be made.

    I'm not sure.. If someone has done something wrong, I don't think it's really right that they could get away with it just because the victim waited too long to do anything about it. Pointing the finger at the victom for waiting too long seems a bit like victim-blaming.. In some cases, the victim might be afraid to come out against their accuser because they worry they might retaliate.

    Nightfox

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Thursday, November 21, 2019 08:53:00
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to MRO on Wed Nov 20 2019 09:03 pm

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: MRO to HusTler on Wed Nov 20 2019 04:08 pm

    well, this is different. there's documentation of the plane visits and company they kept.
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    I'm not defending him. I'm just saying a lot of women are coming out destro

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    I used to dismiss allegations of women goign against politicians and celebrities, however a couple of years ago an old friend from high school was put into situation that she didn't like the direction it was going. Keep in mind some people get intot he position they are in because they are very convincing in putting out vibes that they are trustworthy or their intentions are pure. She said the encounter began as a professional meeting, then afterwards was supposed to be social event between friends. she could see the guy was becoming more and more inappropriate, yet she kept saying to herself she's
    reading it the wrong way. She put a stop to it at the level in which police would've classified it as assault in a normal situation.

    Sounds like a stupid mistake, but some people have the ability to be very convincing or able to manipulate others, and others will automatically trust their side of a story in the absence of evidence proving otherwise.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Thursday, November 21, 2019 09:04:00
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to Nightfox on Thu Nov 21 2019 05:44 am

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Nightfox to HusTler on Wed Nov 20 2019 07:18 pm

    So, if there was inappropriate sexual contact, you think it's pathetic the women to come out and defend themselves?

    No. I just feel there should be a time limit when legal charges can be made

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    In the case of alter boys accusing priests of sexual misconduct many years aft er the events occured, I can imagine why an accuser might wait several years
    to make an accusation. Right way the chances of a child accusing a leader of a church may not be very convincing. The priest's influence and position of authority can be inimidating to not just the accusing child, but also their parents and others who may socially shame the child, believing they made it up . Also, this may be at a later date when child had grown up,and is no longer in fear of accusing the priest.

    I can see the same situation among women who are in a simialar situation. Sur e, there will be an occasional accuser that with ulterior motives, however
    that should not take away the seriousness of such accusations.

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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZZONE to HusTler on Thursday, November 21, 2019 11:00:58
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to Zombie Mambo on Wed Nov 20 2019 08:58 pm

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Zombie Mambo to HusTler on Wed Nov 20 2019 11:49 am

    By the same token, I don't like that all a female has to say is she wan an abortion and its her body so its ok... even if she's underage and ha

    What about the father? Does he have no rights because the child isn't i his body, even tho his body is equally responsible for creating it?

    OH Man! You and me need to get together for a Beer. I've never heard anothe

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    Sorry you had to deal with that HusTler... Me and Beer go WAY back. We're like lifelong friends. ANYTIME. :)


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZZONE to MRO on Thursday, November 21, 2019 11:03:17
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: MRO to Kaboom on Wed Nov 20 2019 09:38 pm

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Kaboom to Denn on Wed Nov 20 2019 08:41 am

    Listened to that myself over the past few days, Alex Jones does a lot of yacking about that whole ordeal. Sounds like there is to many people to e mention that became part of that web with Epstein.


    apparently the entire world is ran by pedophiles.

    For sure. Much of Hollywood and Political elite are pedophiles, or support it, call it art, free expression blah blah blah. One need only look at those who defend Roman Polanski to see this. Madonna too... These people are sick because many of them never had to actually do anything in life and have a completely unrealistic understanding of reality.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Thursday, November 21, 2019 15:51:04
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Denn to MRO on Wed Nov 20 2019 11:19 pm

    Not only documents but video's and photo's
    btw Epstien didn't kill himself


    it doesnt matter what happened with epstein. the powerful control the world
    and the media controls the truth.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Thursday, November 21, 2019 15:51:24
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to Nightfox on Thu Nov 21 2019 05:44 am

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Nightfox to HusTler on Wed Nov 20 2019 07:18 pm

    So, if there was inappropriate sexual contact, you think it's pathetic the women to come out and defend themselves?

    No. I just feel there should be a time limit when legal charges can be made



    there are in some cases.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Thursday, November 21, 2019 15:53:42
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Digital Man to HusTler on Thu Nov 21 2019 10:42 am

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to MRO on Wed Nov 20 2019 09:03 pm

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: MRO to HusTler on Wed Nov 20 2019 04:08 pm

    well, this is different. there's documentation of the plane visits a the company they kept.
    ---

    I'm not defending him. I'm just saying a lot of women are coming out destroying Mens lives cause they had sex with them 20 years ago. It's pathetic.

    But a lot of men's "lives have been destroyed" (imprisoned, careers canceled etc.) because they raped or sexually-assaulted/harassed some women years ago think there have been a lot more real accusations than false ones. And that' good thing.



    there has to be TRUE repercussions for false accusations. it does a lot of harm and takes away the validity of true accusations. i think if you falsely accuse someone of a crime you should do 20 years.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Thursday, November 21, 2019 15:55:45
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Nov 21 2019 10:43 am

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Nov 20 2019 10:26 pm

    i've been raped. and then i went back for more rape.

    Then it wasn't rape.


    well one time i was out of my mind drunk [and i was working with some strong chemicals beforehand and that caused me to get so fucked up]so according to 'them' [the ones that make the rules] i was raped.

    luckily it was a beautiful woman and not a gross one or a man.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thursday, November 21, 2019 15:57:25
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Moondog to HusTler on Thu Nov 21 2019 08:53 am

    reading it the wrong way. She put a stop to it at the level in which police would've classified it as assault in a normal situation.

    Sounds like a stupid mistake, but some people have the ability to be very convincing or able to manipulate others, and others will automatically trust their side of a story in the absence of evidence proving otherwise.


    yeah but if she liked the guy, and this guy did the same actions and she
    went along with it, it's not an attempted assault. even though it's the same stuff.

    that's why our society is so fucked up.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, November 21, 2019 19:31:00
    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: Nightfox to HusTler on Thu Nov 21 2019 10:40 am

    Re: Prince Andrew
    By: HusTler to Nightfox on Thu Nov 21 2019 05:44 am

    So, if there was inappropriate sexual contact, you think it's
    pathetic for the women to come out and defend themselves?

    No. I just feel there should be a time limit when legal charges can be made.

    I'm not sure.. If someone has done something wrong, I don't think it's real e victim-blaming.. In some cases, the victim might be afraid to come out ag

    Nightfox


    I think any law or condition of law can be abused. Right away I can think of people who may have witnessed a law being broken, yet bank onusing that information on a later date either in the form of a threat or going to the police with evidence. The accuser should be taken seriously, but also
    observed for ulterior motives.

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