Then if people on the left say not all illegals are murderers and rapists, then
why are they
shielding them from deportation?
Then if people on the left say not all illegals are murderers and
rapists, then why are they
shielding them from deportation?
Left is to exploit. They are really interested in helping themselves and their own political ideology threw using these people as pawns for political gain.
Which boosts their liberal egos in process.
Which shows clearly that liberalism is mental disorder.
Left is to exploit. They are really interested in helping themselves and their own political ideology threw using these people as pawns for political gain.
Which boosts their liberal egos in process.
Which shows clearly that liberalism is mental disorder.
Then if people on the left say not all illegals are murderers and rapists, then
why are they
shielding them from deportation?
Reread what you posted Matt, You answered your own question with the way you worded that.
-Dallas Vinson
Reread what you posted Matt, You answered your own question with the way you worded
that.
Lol, yeah, it was so vague a declaration it was asking for such an anwser.
I think the original idea is that if immigrants are not criminals, there is no need to "shield" them from deportation since they are not comitting any offense that would cause deportation... so if somebody wants to place a "shield" against deportation, he must think that immigrants are causing issues that would get them deported otherwise.
If the interpretation is far from the original intent I must say I am pretty lost then.
Ok, then how about "Shielding from unwarranted deportation"? If they are here trying to make a better life for their families (The main reason the vast majority of our ancestors braved the Atlantic to come here in the first place) and are contributing to our society and paying their fair share of taxes, then they should be allowed to remain. But if they violate any of our laws (other then the immigration laws) then they SHOULD be deported. And it doesn't matter which country they came from.
Lupine Furmen wrote to Arelor <=-
Ok, then how about "Shielding from unwarranted deportation"? If
they are here trying to make a better life for their families
(The main reason the vast majority of our ancestors braved the
Atlantic to come here in the first place) and are contributing to
our society and paying their fair share of taxes, then they
should be allowed to remain. But if they violate any of our laws
(other then the immigration laws) then they SHOULD be deported.
And it doesn't matter which country they came from.
Arelor wrote to Lupine Furmen <=-
I think the original idea is that if immigrants are not
criminals, there is no need to "shield" them from deportation
since they are not comitting any offense that would cause
deportation... so if somebody wants to place a "shield" against deportation, he must think that immigrants are causing issues
that would get them deported otherwise.
Nightfox wrote to Lupine Furmen <=-
Ok, then how about "Shielding from unwarranted deportation"? If they are here trying to make a better life for their families (The main reason the vast majority of our ancestors braved the Atlantic to come here in the first place) and are contributing to our society and paying their fair share of taxes, then they should be allowed to remain. But if they violate any of our laws (other then the immigration laws) then they SHOULD be deported. And it doesn't matter which country they came from.
Exactly. There should be no reason to deport people unless
they've violated laws.
If they're here legally and are contributing, then there should be no problem.
Well, unless those people are in the country illegally, which of
course would mean that they have violated laws.
There's the part that I just can't get my head around. Where you
said "other than the immigration laws". Why is it that you feel
*THOSE* laws are perfectly OK to violate, but not "other" laws?
If they are here *ILLEGALLY*, have they not already broken the
law? The answer is YES. In the case of breaking immigration
You mean like your ancestors? Everyone that came to this contenent from Europe or
Asia
was an illegal alien.
Lupine Furmen wrote to Gamgee <=-
Well, unless those people are in the country illegally, which of
course would mean that they have violated laws.
You mean like your ancestors? Everyone that came to this
contenent from Europe or Asia was an illegal alien.
Re: Re: Immigration irony
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Nov 05 2019 18:49:00
You mean like your ancestors? Everyone that came to this contenent from Europe or Asia was an illegal alien.
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Well, unless those people are in the country illegally, which of
course would mean that they have violated laws.
You mean like your ancestors? Everyone that came to this contenent from Europe or Asia was an illegal alien.
You mean like your ancestors? Everyone that came to this contenent from Europe or Asia was an illegal alien.
At that time, we had open immigration. Two, you just didn't hop a boat and come over here. It was quite expensive and it was the only way here. Lastly, the people who came here registered when they came in. (See Ellis Island and Galveston)
Also if you were a slave or indentured servant, strict records were kept on them too, because of the investment insaid peoples.
Arelor wrote to Lupine Furmen <=-
You mean like your ancestors? Everyone that came to this contenent
from Europe or Asia was an illegal alien.
If I were an American closed borders proponent my answer would be
the following:
"Yes, my ancestors were aliens, aliens who ran unchecked. Now the
native civilitations are extinct or enclosed in reserves and
plunged into irrelevance, which comes to show that aliens that
are left unchecked have the power to destroy your civilitation!"
You mean like your ancestors? Everyone that came to this contenent from Europe or Asia was an illegal alien.
Re: Immigration irony
By: Arelor to Lupine Furmen on Tue Nov 05 2019 05:48:34
Lol, yeah, it was so vague a declaration it was asking for such an anwser.
I think the original idea is that if immigrants are not criminals, there is no need to "shield" them from deportation since they are not comitting any offense that would cause deportation... so if somebody wants to place a "shield" against deportation, he must think that immigrants are causing issues that would get them deported otherwise.
If the interpretation is far from the original intent I must say I am pretty lost then.
Ok, then how about "Shielding from unwarranted deportation"? If they are here trying to make a better life for their families (The main reason the vast majority of our ancestors braved the Atlantic to come here in the first place) and are contributing to our society and paying their fair share of taxes, then they should be allowed to remain. But if they violate any of our laws (other then the immigration laws) then they SHOULD be deported. And it doesn't matter which country they came from.
-+-
-Dallas Vinson
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Another lefty topic that gets me going is.... "Oh, we can't beAMEN!
separating the poor children from their parents at the border..."
Well, answer me this: If a native-born American citizen breaks
the law - let's use getting a DUI as an example... Is that
*CITIZEN* separated from his kids/family? YEP. So..... why would
an ILLEGAL immigrant who is breaking the law just by being in the
country... not also be separated???? Why should that person get
better treatment than an actual US Citizen??? Boggles the mind.
Another lefty topic that gets me going is.... "Oh, we can't be
separating the poor children from their parents at the border..."
Well, answer me this: If a native-born American citizen breaks
the law - let's use getting a DUI as an example... Is that
*CITIZEN* separated from his kids/family? YEP. So..... why would
an ILLEGAL immigrant who is breaking the law just by being in the
country... not also be separated???? Why should that person get
better treatment than an actual US Citizen??? Boggles the mind.
Another lefty topic that gets me going is.... "Oh, we can't be
separating the poor children from their parents at the border..."
Well, answer me this: If a native-born American citizen breaks
the law - let's use getting a DUI as an example... Is that
*CITIZEN* separated from his kids/family? YEP. So..... why would
an ILLEGAL immigrant who is breaking the law just by being in the
country... not also be separated???? Why should that person get
better treatment than an actual US Citizen??? Boggles the mind.
Re: Re: Immigration irony
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Nov 05 2019 18:49:00
Well, unless those people are in the country illegally, which of
course would mean that they have violated laws.
You mean like your ancestors? Everyone that came to this contenent from Europe or Asia was an illegal alien.
-+-
-Dallas Vinson
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Re: Re: Immigration irony
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Nov 05 2019 18:49:00
Well, unless those people are in the country illegally, which of
course would mean that they have violated laws.
You mean like your ancestors? Everyone that came to this contenent from Euro or Asia was an illegal alien.
-+-
-Dallas Vinson
Furmens Folly - telnet: loybbs.net:23
SSH: loybbs.net:23222
Before the Web - telnet: loybbs.net:23232
Legends of Yesteryear - telnet: loybbs.net:23322
Gamgee wrote to Lupine Furmen <=-
Another lefty topic that gets me going is.... "Oh, we can't be
separating the poor children from their parents at the border..."
Well, answer me this: If a native-born American citizen breaks
the law - let's use getting a DUI as an example... Is that
*CITIZEN* separated from his kids/family? YEP. So..... why would
an ILLEGAL immigrant who is breaking the law just by being in the country... not also be separated???? Why should that person get
better treatment than an actual US Citizen??? Boggles the mind.
Dr. What wrote to Gamgee <=-
Another lefty topic that gets me going is.... "Oh, we can't be
separating the poor children from their parents at the border..."
Well, answer me this: If a native-born American citizen breaks
the law - let's use getting a DUI as an example... Is that
*CITIZEN* separated from his kids/family? YEP. So..... why would
an ILLEGAL immigrant who is breaking the law just by being in the country... not also be separated???? Why should that person get
better treatment than an actual US Citizen??? Boggles the mind.
The interesting thing is that the reason the minor is separated
is for the protection of the minor.
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