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  • Re: Your controversial mo

    From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to GAMGEE on Monday, September 02, 2019 10:37:00
    On 9/1/2019 9:05 PM, GAMGEE wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON:

    MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to All <=-

    When babies die within 48 hours of being vaccinated, politicians, doctors and medical examiners call that coincidence. We call it murder.

    Who's "we"?
    The people who side with that position.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MATTHEW MUNSON on Tuesday, September 03, 2019 17:55:00
    MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    When babies die within 48 hours of being vaccinated, politicians, doctors and medical examiners call that coincidence. We call it murder.

    Who's "we"?

    The people who side with that position.

    Well yeah, no shit. You're being vague. You wrote the above as
    if it was your own statement.

    So who, besides *YOU*, is "we"?



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Friday, September 13, 2019 09:54:00
    Re: Re: Your controversial mo
    By: Arelor to Denn on Wed Sep 04 2019 01:49 pm

    Re: Re: Your controversial moment
    By: Denn to Arelor on Tue Sep 03 2019 01:35 am

    There is a risk with almost everything in this world but the risk of not vaccinating everyone that can be vaccinated would be devistating.

    I don't think it is black and white myself.

    I work a lot with dogs and horses, who don't have many mandatory vaccinations over here. I have had some cases of bad secondary
    effects that can be totally atributed to vaccines. I think it is
    the responsibility of the owner to balance the risks of
    vaccinating and facing possible side effects or non vaccinating
    and facing a possible outbreak in the barn or kennel.

    For many vaccines I take the first, for many others I take the
    second. I am happy I can make this decission myself for the
    most part instead of having it imposed of me. When a horse of
    mine gets a bad side effect from a vaccine and is unable to eat
    normally for three days I want to know it is my responsibility
    and it is happening for a good reason, not because some
    bourocrat was bought by Big Vet Pharma and made the vaccine
    mandatory.

    Fun fact, I got vaccinated against a eradicated disease and
    ended up catching it up and being put in quarantine for it.
    It looks like a big vaccine batch got deffective from the lab
    and a good bunch of people got the damn thing. The bastards
    didn't gave me my money back.

    All this talk abotu vaccinations and animals reminds me of vaccinating pigs
    for psuedorabies before taking them to the local county fair. Just imagine
    the potential of an outbreak at a place where so many different animals are present?

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  • From Arelor@VERT to Moondog on Saturday, September 14, 2019 07:57:40
    Re: Re: Your controversial mo
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Fri Sep 13 2019 09:54 am

    All this talk abotu vaccinations and animals reminds me of vaccinating pigs for psuedorabies before taking them to the local county fair. Just imagine the potential of an outbreak at a place where so many different animals are present?

    Many horse sporting federations actually won't let you compete
    if you don't have the vaccine calendar up-to-date precisely
    because of that.

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