• Old computes did it better.

    From Guy@VERT/USERCLUB to All on Monday, April 30, 2018 11:38:29
    Title says it all.





    Also if you're reading this congradulations you found me!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Guy on Monday, April 30, 2018 18:31:24
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Guy to All on Mon Apr 30 2018 11:38 am

    Title says it all.


    moon landing was faked. nasa says they 'lost' their footage. the
    most important footage ever was 'taped over' because an organization that
    made billions a year needed the tape for something else. couldnt buy new tapes! nope!

    and they said they lost telematry data and couldnt do it again if they wanted to.

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/GUARDIAN to Guy on Monday, April 30, 2018 18:22:11
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Guy to All on Mon Apr 30 2018 11:38 am

    Title says it all.

    Life was a blast back in the 80s growing up, computes and all :-)


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  • From Chai@VERT/AMIGAC to Dmxrob on Wednesday, May 02, 2018 03:27:54
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Dmxrob to Guy on Mon Apr 30 2018 18:22:11

    Life was a blast back in the 80s growing up, computes and all :-)


    It was a time I could trust random Sysop's with my phone number. I'll give it that. I wouldn't do that today. At least, not without somehow verifying the board is legit.

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  • From Rmh@VERT/UNICYBER to Chai on Wednesday, May 02, 2018 07:05:37
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Chai to Dmxrob on Wed May 02 2018 03:27 am

    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Dmxrob to Guy on Mon Apr 30 2018 18:22:11

    Life was a blast back in the 80s growing up, computes and all :-)


    It was a time I could trust random Sysop's with my phone number. I'll give it that. I wouldn't do that today. At least, not without somehow verifying the board is legit.


    Mate,
    I remember being a bunch of geeks, just a small one, and everybody learning on the go.
    Meet ups on someone's house, long talks and bulding things together
    .

    I built my BBS back in 1994, We were 2 guys working on it, everybody very helpful and lot of fun. I didn't remember the nasty competitive environment I
    breath sometimes around some areas...
    Old computer? yeah! an old 486 on MSDOS and it did a heck of a job!

    sigh!!!
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Rmh on Thursday, May 03, 2018 07:57:00
    Rmh wrote to Chai <=-

    Mate,
    I remember being a bunch of geeks, just a small one, and everybody learning on the go. Meet ups on someone's house, long talks and bulding things together .

    Those were the days! :)

    I built my BBS back in 1994, We were 2 guys working on it, everybody
    very helpful and lot of fun. I didn't remember the nasty competitive environment I breath sometimes around some areas...
    Old computer? yeah! an old 486 on MSDOS and it did a heck of a job!

    There was some nastiness in the background (Fido politics has been around as long as Fidonet), but at the base level, there were a lot of friendly people willing to lend a hand.


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  • From Chai@VERT/AMIGAC to Rmh on Wednesday, May 02, 2018 22:20:54
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Rmh to Chai on Wed May 02 2018 07:05:37

    I remember being a bunch of geeks, just a small one, and everybody learning on the go.
    Meet ups on someone's house, long talks and bulding things together
    I built my BBS back in 1994, We were 2 guys working on it, everybody very helpful and lot of fun. I didn't remember the nasty competitive environment I
    breath sometimes around some areas...
    Old computer? yeah! an old 486 on MSDOS and it did a heck of a job!


    I think my first BBS ran on a 386SX. It was a Remote Access board, running Front Door for echo's. I remember the BBS parties back in the day. I kind of miss those. I met a lot of cool people that way. I suppose people still do that somewhat today. Twitch streamers often have meetups, but unless you live in California, it's out of reach. Not to mention the age difference.

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/GUARDIAN to Vk3jed on Wednesday, May 02, 2018 22:12:23
    Re: Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Vk3jed to Rmh on Thu May 03 2018 07:57 am

    There was some nastiness in the background (Fido politics has been around as long as Fidonet), but at the base level, there were a lot of friendly people willing to lend a hand.

    Yes, and we didn't mind even meeting up in person and lending a helping hand. We were very social-oriented in some ways. Nowadays, people want to keep to themselves and "hide". Pretty sad.


    þdmxrobþ BBSing from St. Louis, MO since 1988

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Chai on Thursday, May 03, 2018 14:21:00
    Chai wrote to Rmh <=-

    I think my first BBS ran on a 386SX. It was a Remote Access board, running Front Door for echo's. I remember the BBS parties back in the day. I kind of miss those. I met a lot of cool people that way. I suppose people still do that somewhat today. Twitch streamers often
    have meetups, but unless you live in California, it's out of reach.
    Not to mention the age difference.

    My first BBD ran RA on an XT with a 10MB HDD. I used to love BBS meetups too, but I'm probably the only sysop in town (or within 100km), so BBS meetups are probably not gonna happen anymore. :(


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dmxrob on Thursday, May 03, 2018 15:08:00
    Dmxrob wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yes, and we didn't mind even meeting up in person and lending a helping hand. We were very social-oriented in some ways. Nowadays, people want
    to keep to themselves and "hide". Pretty sad.

    Yes, a lot of people don't seem to want to meet these days. But real face to face interaction is what people really need - even introverts (who need it in smaller, measured doses one on one rather than crowds).


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  • From Rmh@VERT/UNICYBER to Chai on Thursday, May 03, 2018 08:17:49
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Chai to Rmh on Wed May 02 2018 10:20 pm

    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Rmh to Chai on Wed May 02 2018 07:05:37

    I remember being a bunch of geeks, just a small one, and everybody learning on the go.
    Meet ups on someone's house, long talks and bulding things together
    I built my BBS back in 1994, We were 2 guys working on it, everybody very helpful and lot of fun. I didn't remember the nasty competitive environment I
    breath sometimes around some areas...
    Old computer? yeah! an old 486 on MSDOS and it did a heck of a job!


    I think my first BBS ran on a 386SX. It was a Remote Access board, running Front Door for echo's. I remember the BBS parties back in the day. I kind of miss those. I met a lot of cool people that way. I suppose people still do that somewhat today. Twitch streamers often have meetups, but unless you live in California, it's out of reach. Not to mention the age difference.

    yeah! about the same! RA + FrontDoor.
    We kept in touch a few of us nearly until now.... More than 20 years of friendship. yeah, it was worth every bit!!
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  • From Rmh@VERT/UNICYBER to Dmxrob on Thursday, May 03, 2018 08:20:08
    Re: Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Dmxrob to Vk3jed on Wed May 02 2018 10:12 pm

    Re: Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Vk3jed to Rmh on Thu May 03 2018 07:57 am

    There was some nastiness in the background (Fido politics has been around as long as Fidonet), but at the base level, there were a lot of friendly people willing to lend a hand.

    Yes, and we didn't mind even meeting up in person and lending a helping hand. We were very social-oriented in some ways. Nowadays, people want to keep to themselves and "hide". Pretty sad.


    Indeed...
    We were always around if anybody needed some help...
    I remember going to some kids' houses to explain how to setup a modem and to do some things. One of them IT later in life runnin his own Biz, he loved the
    BBS thing.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Thursday, May 03, 2018 18:14:10
    Re: Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Vk3jed to Dmxrob on Thu May 03 2018 03:08 pm

    Dmxrob wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yes, and we didn't mind even meeting up in person and lending a helping hand. We were very social-oriented in some ways. Nowadays, people want to keep to themselves and "hide". Pretty sad.

    Yes, a lot of people don't seem to want to meet these days. But real face to face interaction is what people really need - even introverts (who need it in smaller, measured doses one on one rather than crowds).



    i dont want or need face to face interaction. i deal with hundreds of people at work and get enough of that.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Rmh on Thursday, May 03, 2018 18:16:59
    Re: Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Rmh to Dmxrob on Thu May 03 2018 08:20 am


    Indeed...
    We were always around if anybody needed some help...
    I remember going to some kids' houses to explain how to setup a modem and to do some things. One of them IT later in life runnin his own Biz, he loved the


    see, things have changed. now people would look at you like you were a pedophile.

    when i was walking 7 miles a day and wasnt a fat ass a few years ago, a kid on a bike had his chain come off. he kept peddeling but he didnt know what to do about it. he was totally perplexed. so i said 'hold my water' and i gunked up my hands putting his chain back on. then i told him to change gears all the way up and go all the way down and that would fix the gears back.

    i look up and a bunch of people are watching me like a hawk like im chester the molester. and i dont even LOOK weird.

    plenty of people were around but nobody would help this kid who kept almost falling on his face. but plenty of them to watch
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  • From HusTler@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Friday, May 04, 2018 08:40:26
    Re: Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: MRO to Vk3jed on Thu May 03 2018 06:14 pm

    Yes, a lot of people don't seem to want to meet these days. But real
    face to face interaction is what people really need - even introverts
    (who need it in smaller, measured doses one on one rather than
    crowds).

    Are you a Psychologist?

    i dont want or need face to face interaction. i deal with hundreds of people at work and get enough of that.
    ---
    Great point!

    Why do I need to meet face 2 face to get help with my
    computer anyway? I would be reluctant to meet someone over something easily done with e-mail.

    HusTler

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/GUARDIAN to MRO on Friday, May 04, 2018 17:05:37
    Re: Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: MRO to Vk3jed on Thu May 03 2018 06:14 pm

    i dont want or need face to face interaction. i deal with hundreds of people at work and get enough of that.
    Whatever. Good for you.

    þdmxrobþ BBSing from St. Louis, MO since 1988

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/GUARDIAN to HusTler on Friday, May 04, 2018 17:06:17
    Re: Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: HusTler to MRO on Fri May 04 2018 08:40 am

    Why do I need to meet face 2 face to get help with my
    computer anyway? I would be reluctant to meet someone over something easily done with e-mail.

    Ummm, it's called having a life....

    þdmxrobþ BBSing from St. Louis, MO since 1988

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dmxrob on Saturday, May 05, 2018 21:21:25
    Re: Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Dmxrob to HusTler on Fri May 04 2018 05:06 pm

    Re: Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: HusTler to MRO on Fri May 04 2018 08:40 am

    Why do I need to meet face 2 face to get help with my
    computer anyway? I would be reluctant to meet someone over something easily done with e-mail.

    Ummm, it's called having a life....


    i had one of those. i hated it.
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  • From Hustler@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dmxrob on Thursday, May 10, 2018 04:06:48
    Re: Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: MRO to Dmxrob on Sat May 05 2018 09:21 pm

    Why do I need to meet face 2 face to get help with my
    computer anyway? I would be reluctant to meet someone over something
    easily done with e-mail.

    Ummm, it's called having a life....

    So if I meet you I get a life?? If I don't have one that is.

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  • From Jon Justvig@VERT/STEPPING to Guy on Thursday, May 17, 2018 08:41:45
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Guy to All on Mon Apr 30 2018 11:38 am

    Title says it all.

    They don't make anything the way they used to...everything is cheap and made of plastic which destroys mother earth.

    Sincerely,
    Jon Justvig
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Friday, June 08, 2018 15:47:50
    Re: moon landing was faked
    By: MRO to Guy on Mon Apr 30 2018 06:31 pm

    moon landing was faked. nasa says they 'lost' their footage. the
    most important footage ever was 'taped over' because an organization that made billions a year needed the tape for something else. couldnt buy new tapes! nope!

    And losing the tapes means for sure that the moon landing was faked? Perhaps some idiot just accidentally taped over the recordings.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Friday, June 08, 2018 20:00:31
    Re: moon landing was faked
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Jun 08 2018 03:47 pm

    Re: moon landing was faked
    By: MRO to Guy on Mon Apr 30 2018 06:31 pm

    moon landing was faked. nasa says they 'lost' their footage. the
    most important footage ever was 'taped over' because an organization that made billions a year needed the tape for something else. couldnt buy new tapes! nope!

    And losing the tapes means for sure that the moon landing was faked?
    Perhaps some idiot just accidentally taped over the recordings.

    Nightfox

    i pointed out a bunch of weird dumb shit about nasa. that is separate from me thinking the moonlanding was faked.

    which it was fake. i was in the air and space museum and i was 1 foot away
    from that stuff. i could have poked my finger through that cheap junk.
    no way they went to space with it and came back alive.

    i also said there is no real photo of the earth. and there wasnt until 2015 and that fucker looks doctored to hell. now that is a fucking fact.

    there was no real entire photo of the earth until 2015 (and THAT looks fake as shit)

    other people are imagining that i think the earth is flat or whatever they have going on in their ADHD head.


    i'm just saying nasa is full of shit and most of the photos they send out are all artist's renderings.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Tuesday, June 12, 2018 23:21:51
    Re: moon landing was faked
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Jun 08 2018 08:00 pm


    i pointed out a bunch of weird dumb shit about nasa. that is separate from me thinking the moonlanding was faked.

    NASA Need Another Seven Astronaughts.

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  • From sam@VERT/TTLYNERD to Jon Justvig on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 14:37:18
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Guy to All on Mon Apr 30 2018 11:38 am

    Title says it all.

    They don't make anything the way they used to...everything is cheap and
    made
    of plastic which destroys mother earth.


    Totally agree. Back in the late 90's and early 00's I loved building and upgrading computers. And back then networking was actually fun! When PC's became disposable where people just replaced them instead of
    fixing/upgrading them I got out of it. PC Support basically became virus/malware extermination and nothing more, and nothing fun to me anyway
    in that. Also networking now'days is either all wireless or everything
    runs to common hardware and vlans are setup. Physical topography on a
    network is just kinda meh.

    Given all the technology we have I miss computing of the 80's, 90's, and
    00's up to maybe 2007.

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Guy on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:51:57
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Guy to All on Mon Apr 30 2018 11:38:29

    Title says it all.

    There is an older YouTube video by The 8-bit Guy (formally The iBook Guy) that touched on that subject of how older computers did it better, and comparing it to today.

    -jag
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Jagossel on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 13:49:41
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Jagossel to Guy on Wed Jun 27 2018 10:51 am

    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Guy to All on Mon Apr 30 2018 11:38:29

    Title says it all.

    There is an older YouTube video by The 8-bit Guy (formally The iBook Guy) that touched on that subject of how older computers did it better, and comparing it to today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wDtxYeJdzg

    digital man

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Digital Man on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 19:46:33
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Digital Man to Jagossel on Wed Jun 27 2018 13:49:41

    Title says it all.

    There is an older YouTube video by The 8-bit Guy (formally The iBook Guy) that touched on that subject of how older computers did it better, and comparing it to today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wDtxYeJdzg

    Thanks for posting the link... I cannot copy and paste in Magic DOSBox on my phone and typing the link is too error-prone.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to sam on Thursday, June 28, 2018 09:37:00
    On 06-26-18 14:37, sam wrote to Jon Justvig <=-

    Totally agree. Back in the late 90's and early 00's I loved building
    and upgrading computers. And back then networking was actually fun!

    Agree totally! I built my first computer in 1991 - a twin floppy XT, and that PC was incrementally upgraded over the next several years, until it ended up as a 486DX4-100. Back then, there were all sorts of jumpers to set, and building a PC was a real skill, in terms of configuring the actual hardware - one had to know about addresses, IRQs, DMA, etc. And it was FUN! I then made a clean break and started letting the store do more of the building, as things were plug and play, and other than working out the occasional conflict by swapping PCI slots, things "just worked".

    In the 1990s, networking was fun. And if you wanted to put a company on the Internet (as I did), you had 2 choices - buy a Cisco or similar router, or build one out of a Linux or *BSD box. I went the Linux route, and the bodd thought I was a miracle worker, able to turn old hardware into valuable network components. :)

    My interest waned as the more "hands on" work was replaced by those cheap Chinese boxes we all have sitting in the corner these days, apps went to the cloud, and the only remaining work was at the big end of town, where I had no interest.

    When PC's became disposable where people just replaced them instead of fixing/upgrading them I got out of it. PC Support basically became virus/malware extermination and nothing more, and nothing fun to me
    anyway in that. Also networking now'days is either all wireless or everything runs to common hardware and vlans are setup. Physical topography on a network is just kinda meh.

    There's still some interesting stuff in networking - at least for hobbyists wanting to do things outside the norm. I'm running 4 networks on the same wire. One is IPv6, the other 3 are:

    Private LAN (routed to the ISP along with IPv6)
    a /29 of public IPs. This is for the BBSs and a couple of other things.
    a /24 HAMnet 44.x.x.x allocation for ham radio use. This is brought in via a mesh of IPIP tunnels.

    Given all the technology we have I miss computing of the 80's, 90's,
    and 00's up to maybe 2007.

    Yes, the fun days of playing with the nuts and bolts are behind us. :(


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  • From bgdjr@VERT/BGDCAG to Jagossel on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 20:04:15
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Jagossel to Guy on Wed Jun 27 2018 10:51:57

    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Guy to All on Mon Apr 30 2018 11:38:29

    Title says it all.

    There is an older YouTube video by The 8-bit Guy (formally The iBook Guy) th touched on that subject of how older computers did it better, and comparing to today.

    -jag
    Code it, Script it, Automate it!


    I watch his channel a lot, love the old school stuff.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Digital Man on Thursday, June 28, 2018 21:00:34
    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Digital Man to Jagossel on Wed Jun 27 2018 01:49 pm

    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Jagossel to Guy on Wed Jun 27 2018 10:51 am

    Re: Old computes did it better.
    By: Guy to All on Mon Apr 30 2018 11:38:29

    Title says it all.

    There is an older YouTube video by The 8-bit Guy (formally The iBook Guy) that touched on that subject of how older computers did it better, and comparing it to today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wDtxYeJdzg

    digital man

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  • From Dreamer@VERT to Vk3jed on Tuesday, July 03, 2018 23:29:00
    Vk3jed wrote to sam <=-

    configuring the actual hardware - one had to know about addresses,
    IRQs, DMA, etc. And it was FUN! I then made a clean break and started letting the store do more of the building, as things were plug and
    play, and other than working out the occasional conflict by swapping
    PCI slots, things "just worked".

    The part of Texas I live in has never had a big demand for IT workers, and
    it's been mostly a "who you know" game here. And, unfortunately, I'm terrible at social networking.

    When I was younger, I would have been thrilled to get a hardware support gig someplace. I briefly did some side jobs in the early 2000's building and upgrading a few PC's for friends, and I loved it. But, it's never amounted
    to more than a few extra bucks for me.

    Now, however, I turn down those side jobs for the most part and refer them
    to a local shop I use for my laptop hardware repairs (I hate working on
    these things).

    I find most jobs these days can be sorted to:
    1. User purchased cheapest netbook PC available thinking they'll be able
    to install Office 365, Chrome, and a few of their favorite games.
    2. User hasn't restarted the system in 'X' weeks/months, and has also
    clicked YES on everything they've installed without reading anything.
    3. Some combination of the above.

    I can't remember the last time anyone has come to me about repairing or upgrading desktop hardware. I'm so bored of tech support, I don't even bother applying to those jobs despite now having the A+ cert, an internship, and an AAS behind me.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dreamer on Wednesday, July 04, 2018 20:14:00
    On 07-03-18 23:29, Dreamer wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The part of Texas I live in has never had a big demand for IT workers,
    and it's been mostly a "who you know" game here. And, unfortunately,
    I'm terrible at social networking.

    I used to live in Melbourne, where there were a lot of IT opportunities

    When I was younger, I would have been thrilled to get a hardware
    support gig someplace. I briefly did some side jobs in the early 2000's building and upgrading a few PC's for friends, and I loved it. But,
    it's never amounted to more than a few extra bucks for me.

    Yes, hardware was fun back then. I used to enjoy playing with it.

    Now, however, I turn down those side jobs for the most part and refer
    them to a local shop I use for my laptop hardware repairs (I hate
    working on these things).

    I never liked laptops either, they are too fiddly.

    I find most jobs these days can be sorted to:
    1. User purchased cheapest netbook PC available thinking they'll be
    able
    to install Office 365, Chrome, and a few of their favorite games.
    2. User hasn't restarted the system in 'X' weeks/months, and has also
    clicked YES on everything they've installed without reading
    anything.
    3. Some combination of the above.

    What about 4. User has been surfing dodgy websites and/or downloading dodgy files and have caught a heap of malware.

    I can't remember the last time anyone has come to me about repairing or upgrading desktop hardware. I'm so bored of tech support, I don't even bother applying to those jobs despite now having the A+ cert, an internship, and an AAS behind me.

    I haven't done any hardware upgrades for years.


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  • From Jazzy_J@VERT/JAYSCAFE to Dreamer on Wednesday, July 04, 2018 09:09:00
    Dreamer wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT
    @TZ: c1e0
    Vk3jed wrote to sam <=-

    configuring the actual hardware - one had to know about addresses,
    IRQs, DMA, etc. And it was FUN! I then made a clean break and started letting the store do more of the building, as things were plug and
    play, and other than working out the occasional conflict by swapping
    PCI slots, things "just worked".

    The part of Texas I live in has never had a big demand for IT workers,
    and it's been mostly a "who you know" game here. And, unfortunately,
    I'm terrible at social networking.

    When I was younger, I would have been thrilled to get a hardware
    support gig someplace. I briefly did some side jobs in the early 2000's building and upgrading a few PC's for friends, and I loved it. But,
    it's never amounted to more than a few extra bucks for me.

    Now, however, I turn down those side jobs for the most part and refer
    them to a local shop I use for my laptop hardware repairs (I hate
    working on these things).

    I find most jobs these days can be sorted to:
    1. User purchased cheapest netbook PC available thinking they'll be
    able
    to install Office 365, Chrome, and a few of their favorite games.
    2. User hasn't restarted the system in 'X' weeks/months, and has also
    clicked YES on everything they've installed without reading
    anything.
    3. Some combination of the above.

    I can't remember the last time anyone has come to me about repairing or upgrading desktop hardware. I'm so bored of tech support, I don't even bother applying to those jobs despite now having the A+ cert, an internship, and an AAS behind me.


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    I concurr. _Every_ issue I have dealth with on Windows 10 involved
    Windows Update. Either the user hasn't rebooted -- ever --, or there
    was an update stuck.

    Generally, I've had to reboot the machine, force the update (maybe), and
    then reboot, update, reboot, wash, rinse, repeat.

    I explain to the people: Please, reboot your system at least once a
    week. And explain that putting it to sleep is not rebooting it. I pick
    up my beer/coffee and then go home.

    J


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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Jazzy_J on Thursday, July 05, 2018 07:49:23
    Re: Re: Old computes did it b
    By: Jazzy_J to Dreamer on Wed Jul 04 2018 09:09:00

    Generally, I've had to reboot the machine, force the update (maybe), and then reboot, update, reboot, wash, rinse, repeat.

    I explain to the people: Please, reboot your system at least once a
    week. And explain that putting it to sleep is not rebooting it. I pick
    up my beer/coffee and then go home.

    The lovely side effect of Microsoft's decision to force Windows Updates on everyone, except for Enterprise edition.

    I thought that Windows forces a reboot for updates? Are they constantly saying, "reschedule"?

    -jag
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jagossel on Thursday, July 05, 2018 13:18:54
    Re: Re: Old computes did it b
    By: Jagossel to Jazzy_J on Thu Jul 05 2018 07:49 am

    The lovely side effect of Microsoft's decision to force Windows Updates on everyone, except for Enterprise edition.

    I thought that Windows forces a reboot for updates? Are they constantly saying, "reschedule"?


    that doesnt always work as intended. my computer requires that i restart manually each time.
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  • From Jazzy_J@VERT/JAYSCAFE to Jagossel on Friday, July 06, 2018 08:35:00
    Jagossel wrote to Jazzy_J <=-

    @VIA: VERT/MTLGEEK
    @TZ: c12c
    Re: Re: Old computes did it b
    By: Jazzy_J to Dreamer on Wed Jul 04 2018 09:09:00

    Generally, I've had to reboot the machine, force the update (maybe), and then reboot, update, reboot, wash, rinse, repeat.

    I explain to the people: Please, reboot your system at least once a
    week. And explain that putting it to sleep is not rebooting it. I pick
    up my beer/coffee and then go home.

    The lovely side effect of Microsoft's decision to force Windows Updates
    on everyone, except for Enterprise edition.

    I thought that Windows forces a reboot for updates? Are they constantly saying, "reschedule"?

    They do. These people put their computer to sleep instead of rebooting.
    They think it is the same. When they wake it up.... nothing works.

    On all my MS systems, I disable sleep. I suspect the function is faulty,
    or maybe how people use it. I think a computer should be on or
    rebooting. If it is off, it should be sitting on a shelf.

    J

    -jag
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jazzy_J on Friday, July 06, 2018 17:29:18
    Re: Re: Old computes did it b
    By: Jazzy_J to Jagossel on Fri Jul 06 2018 08:35 am

    On all my MS systems, I disable sleep. I suspect the function is faulty,
    or maybe how people use it. I think a computer should be on or
    rebooting. If it is off, it should be sitting on a shelf.


    it's not faulty and it works fine. i dont have shelfs; i have computer desks. ---
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