• News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM

    From CNN Breaking News@VERT to no-reply@siteservices.cnn.com on Tuesday, July 04, 2017 13:18:44
    US military analysts believe North Korea launched a "probable" two-stage intercontinental ballistic missile[1] on Tuesday, according to a US official with knowledge of the ongoing post-launch analysis.

    The assessment suggests a second-stage booster did ignite and produce 30 seconds of additional flight. The missile flew more than 550 miles before splashing down west of Japan, according to the source.

    Trump administration national security, military and diplomatic officials are holding a series of unexpected July 4 meetings to discuss options for a potential response. At this stage, the US believes that whatever capability the North Koreans have demonstrated, it does not necessarily mean they can immediately launch a working missile that can reach as far as western Alaska. And it's also not clear that the regime has a functioning miniaturized nuclear warhead.

    However, US military commanders have long said they plan fora worst-case scenarioand haveupdated options for President Donald Trump specifically in anticipation of a North Korean ICBM or underground nuclear test.

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  • From Hustler@VERT to CNN Breaking News on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 12:04:52
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: CNN Breaking News to no-reply@siteservices.cnn.com on Tue Jul 04 2017 01:18 pm

    US military analysts believe North Korea launched a "probable" two-stage intercontinental ballistic missile[1] on Tuesday, according to a US official with knowledge of the ongoing post-launch analysis.


    Who gives a rats ass?? "The only winning move is not to play"

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Hustler on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 15:08:00
    Hello Hustler,

    On Wed Jul 05 2017 12:04:52, Hustler wrote to CNN Breaking News:

    US military analysts believe North Korea launched a "probable"
    two-stage intercontinental ballistic missile[1] on Tuesday,
    according to a US official with knowledge of the ongoing
    post-launch analysis.

    Who gives a rats ass?? "The only winning move is not to play"

    Agreed! Why do we have to get involved? Seems to me like they shot it at Japan.
    Maybe Japan should retaliate?

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to Hustler on Thursday, July 06, 2017 10:05:45
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Hustler to CNN Breaking News on Wed Jul 05 2017 12:04 pm

    US military analysts believe North Korea launched a "probable" two-stage intercontinental ballistic missile[1] on Tuesday, according to a US official with knowledge of the ongoing post-launch analysis.


    Who gives a rats ass?? "The only winning move is not to play"


    Sorry in advance, this is maybe not a popular opinion... but last time I checked the US has gotten its ass kicked for 16 years by villagers with fertilizer bombs and "improvised explosive devices", and we're in no position to be picking fights with countries that have REAL, intentional explosive devices.

    This is all fun as long as North Korea can't even hit Hawaii, but we're getting cocky and we're going to end up picking a real fight with a real country (Iran, maybe?) that has an air force and a developed economy, and we're not even going to know what to do.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Hustler on Saturday, July 08, 2017 08:17:57
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Hustler to CNN Breaking News on Wed Jul 05 2017 12:04 pm

    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: CNN Breaking News to no-reply@siteservices.cnn.com on Tue Jul 04 2017 01:18 pm

    US military analysts believe North Korea launched a "probable" two-stage intercontinental ballistic missile[1] on Tuesday, according to a US official with knowledge of the ongoing post-launch analysis.


    Who gives a rats ass?? "The only winning move is not to play"


    i care. this guy is a murderer and a dangerous person. you wouldnt be here if your country didnt defend its people from dangerous warmongers.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Leregard on Saturday, July 08, 2017 08:20:03
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to Hustler on Thu Jul 06 2017 10:05 am

    Sorry in advance, this is maybe not a popular opinion... but last time I checked the US has gotten its ass kicked for 16 years by villagers with fertilizer bombs and "improvised explosive devices", and we're in no


    there have been attacks, but the usa hasnt got its ass kicked.

    fertilizer bombs and "improvised explosive devices", and we're in no position to be picking fights with countries that have REAL, intentional explosive devices.

    they could push one button and launch a weapon that would litterally turn the entire country into glass before they could do anything to stop it or get away.
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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to Mro on Thursday, July 13, 2017 17:04:39
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Mro to Leregard on Sat Jul 08 2017 08:20 am

    there have been attacks, but the usa hasnt got its ass kicked.

    It seems a little weird to me that the RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD could be at war with one of the poorest third world countries in existence ***FOR 16 YEARS****, *NOT WIN*, and still actually feel PROUD of that.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to Mro on Thursday, July 13, 2017 17:15:10
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to Mro on Thu Jul 13 2017 05:04 pm

    It seems a little weird to me that the RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD could be

    The Taliban's strategy was to bankrupt us by sucking us into a war we couldn't win. There's a letter written by Osama Bin Laden where he says so. He just... SAYS so. It's not a secret. It's how they kicked out the Russians, too! In a real sense, a fucked up war over Afghanistan broke the Soviet Union!!!

    And I'm not CELEBRATING THIS, you know? But yoou know what? Trillions of dollars and a broken VA system, a trashed economy that is being forced to cut spending on EVERYTHING but our inflated ego over how big our military is and how expensive our missiles are, not to mention the countless lost lives, limbs, and families, I'd say we got our asses kicked.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to Mro on Thursday, July 13, 2017 17:18:30
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Mro to Hustler on Sat Jul 08 2017 08:17 am

    i care. this guy is a murderer and a dangerous person. you wouldnt be here if your country didnt defend its people from dangerous warmongers.

    The last REAL war we fought was against the Nazis. Since then, Europe was crushed (literally, by like, bombs falling on its cities) and we had a HUGE economic advantage (because no bombs fell on OUR cities) and we used it, and pushed it, and frequently abused it. If you take an impartial look at history after that you might find that we ARE the dangerous warmongers.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to Mro on Thursday, July 13, 2017 19:46:37
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to Mro on Thu Jul 13 2017 05:15 pm

    And I'm not CELEBRATING THIS, you know? But yoou know what? Trillions of dollars and a broken VA system, a trashed economy that is being forced to cut spending on EVERYTHING but our inflated ego over how big our military is and how expensive our missiles are, not to mention the countless lost lives,


    I'd like to offer you a compromise... Agree with me about all of this, but we'll blame it on Obama. Ok?

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Friday, July 14, 2017 02:42:54
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to Mro on Thu Jul 13 2017 17:04:39

    there have been attacks, but the usa hasnt got its ass kicked.

    It seems a little weird to me that the RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD could be at war with one of the poorest third world countries in existence ***FOR 16 YEARS****, *NOT WIN*, and still actually feel PROUD of that.
    [0m

    I would'nt call the US the "richest country in the world" the US is the most indebted country in the world.

    and if we had a reason to go to war with afghanashan <sp> other than oil poppies then we would have had the regime changed, set up a new educations system and had the country booming like japan is now.. but now thats not the issues is it.. that whole area has something that this country and the fat pocketed PIGS that are appointed to their office (no I did'nt say elected).

    They have natural resources and trade routes from eastern europe to the south. SO of course there's a reason for us to be there 15 friggin years..

    Have we ever *REALLY* left ANY country we have had conflict with? when I say we , I mean the US. as I am a taxpayer and sad enough I'm helping ot fund this shit.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Friday, July 14, 2017 02:52:30
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to Mro on Thu Jul 13 2017 17:15:10

    It seems a little weird to me that the RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
    could be

    The Taliban's strategy was to bankrupt us by sucking us into a war we couldn't win. There's a letter written by Osama Bin Laden where he says so. He just... SAYS so. It's not a secret. It's how they kicked out the Russians, too! In a real sense, a fucked up war over Afghanistan broke the Soviet Union!!!

    I'm willing to believe this "letter" was the creation of the CIA or some other 3 letter agency.

    If we would'nt have given a bunch of ordinance to a buch of goat herders, I'm sure the outcome would have been very different, and the world would be a better place right now.

    the US stuck their nose in because it wanted spoils of war, but they did'nt want to invest in stabilizing the country and creating a democracy out of it, that was too much to deal with back in charlie wilsons day.. now we've been paying for it for close to 17 years..

    all this was written long ago anywat.. I'm not saying in a bible either.. You can take from that what you wish.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Friday, July 14, 2017 03:01:31
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to Mro on Thu Jul 13 2017 17:18:30

    The last REAL war we fought was against the Nazis. Since then, Europe was crushed (literally, by like, bombs falling on its cities) and we had a HUGE economic advantage (because no bombs fell on OUR cities) and we used it, and pushed it, and frequently abused it. If you take an impartial look at history after that you might find that we ARE the dangerous warmongers. [0m

    I fully agree.. but the US did'nt get to this point without help.. help it's still getting today, from countries and "factions" all over the world.

    our #1 import now is INFANTRY.

    anyone have their eyes on something they like and have MUCH MUCH money? just call up the good ol US, some man in black somewhere will fly an explosive laced drone into a public sporting event, then the media will spin the hell out of the story until it has been imprinted onto the mass populations brains, then the RF transmissions that induce fear and rage will be ramped up, and in less than two days we have 150.000 18 year old boots on the ground.

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  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to KK4QBN on Friday, July 14, 2017 06:30:35
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Fri Jul 14 2017 02:42 am

    I would'nt call the US the "richest country in the world" the US is the most indebted country in the world.

    Last I heard we were in debt 21 trillion and growing, that might make us the poorest country in the world.

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  • From Deepthaw@VERT/DS94 to KK4QBN on Friday, July 14, 2017 08:36:10
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Fri Jul 14 2017 02:52 am

    the US stuck their nose in because it wanted spoils of war, but they did'nt want to invest in stabilizing the country and creating a democracy out of it, that was too much to deal with back in charlie wilsons day.. now we've been paying for it for close to 17 years..

    The Soviets couldn't handle Afghanistan, and they're even less concerned about playing nice in warfare than we are.

    Bush Sr. had the right idea with the first Iraq war. Set a goal, get in, do it, and don't muck about with regime building.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to KK4QBN on Friday, July 14, 2017 08:48:48
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Fri Jul 14 2017 02:42 am

    I would'nt call the US the "richest country in the world" the US is the most indebted country in the world.
    and if we had a reason to go to war with afghanashan <sp> other than oil poppies then we would have had the regime changed, set up a new educations system and had the country booming like japan is now.. but now thats not the issues is it.. that whole area has something that this country and the fat pocketed PIGS that are appointed to their office (no I did'nt say elected).

    They have natural resources and trade routes from eastern europe to the south. SO of course there's a reason for us to be there 15 friggin years..

    Have we ever *REALLY* left ANY country we have had conflict with? when I say


    I don't have hard numbers on this ready to hand, but US based corporations control HALF the wealth on the entire planet. The US *government* itself is heavily indebted, no disagreement. Apparently the actual dollar amount on the national debt is a little overblown because selling treasury bonds is normal for a country to do (you can buy Chinese bonds if you feel like it) and it's not quite the same KIND of debt as if YOU walked into a bank and needed a car loan... I don't quite understand it. But yeah, the GOVERNMENT has a cash flow problem. Corporations are thriving though, surprise surprise.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to KK4QBN on Friday, July 14, 2017 09:08:44
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Fri Jul 14 2017 02:42 am

    and if we had a reason to go to war with afghanashan <sp> other than oil poppies then we would have had the regime changed, set up a new educations system and had the country booming like japan is now.. but now thats not the

    Japan was a relatively developed empire at the time? They held their own in WWII -- they had a Navy and an Air Force. South Korea is probably a better example, I'm pretty sure they were basically a Japanese slave colony for 30 years. I think part of why North Korea is so pissed at us, they really really wanted to liberate THEMSELVES from the Japanese. They're freaking out about missile tests because they want the world to know they COULD have fought Japan off themselves if the "imperialists" hadn't gotten in the way by saving them all.

    I think you're absolutely right that they embraced Western education. But that's more complex than just learning from the US the right way to organize an economy. For example, if they DIDN'T, instead of a huge amount of military aid and financial support, we'd have tried to isolate them and sanction themm and fuck them over just like we did to Cuba.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to KK4QBN on Friday, July 14, 2017 09:25:31
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Fri Jul 14 2017 02:52 am

    I'm willing to believe this "letter" was the creation of the CIA or some other 3 letter agency.

    I was going to cut/paste links but I can't in this terminal. If you google "bin laden bankrupt usa", like I did just now, you'll find it.

    If we would'nt have given a bunch of ordinance to a buch of goat herders, I'm sure the outcome would have been very different, and the world would be a better place right now.

    Lol yeah we totally did that. We still do that. Russia and Syria straight up accuse us of arming terrorists. It's worrying that I'm not sure they're 100% wrong, but welcome to the modern world -- Don't like someone? Accuse them of supporting terrorists.


    the US stuck their nose in because it wanted spoils of war, but they did'nt want to invest in stabilizing the country and creating a democracy out of

    There's that... but literally the worst thing I've ever heard about it is that we ramped up military spending to invade Iraq, on the order of billions and trillions, and didn't sign any laws giving the VA an extra cent.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Denn Gray on Friday, July 14, 2017 15:56:11
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Denn Gray to KK4QBN on Fri Jul 14 2017 06:30:35

    I would'nt call the US the "richest country in the world" the US is
    the most indebted country in the world.

    Last I heard we were in debt 21 trillion and growing, that might make us the poorest country in the world.

    Yep, with the appetite of beng the richest country in the world.. one day, China, and others are going to want to collect!

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Deepthaw on Friday, July 14, 2017 16:01:44
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Deepthaw to KK4QBN on Fri Jul 14 2017 08:36:10

    the US stuck their nose in because it wanted spoils of war, but they
    did'nt want to invest in stabilizing the country and creating a
    democracy out of it, that was too much to deal with back in charlie
    wilsons day.. now we've been paying for it for close to 17 years..

    The Soviets couldn't handle Afghanistan, and they're even less concerned about playing nice in warfare than we are.

    Bush Sr. had the right idea with the first Iraq war. Set a goal, get in, do it, and don't muck about with regime building.
    [0m

    War is taken too lightly.. in my mind.. if one country invades another, and wins, topples the leaders, etc.. The loser should then become PROPERTY of the winner. no puppet governments skirting the issues. It should be made territory of the winning party.. and have that parties government, laws imposed..

    If this was done (true war) there would actually be less war.

    because the way it is done now, these idiots like kim junk un or whatever his name is believes he can get away with whatever he wants because all he has to suffer is sanctions..

    that does nothing to him, its just starving his citizens.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Friday, July 14, 2017 16:07:09
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Fri Jul 14 2017 09:25:31

    There's that... but literally the worst thing I've ever heard about it is that we ramped up military spending to invade Iraq, on the order of billions and trillions, and didn't sign any laws giving the VA an extra cent. [0m

    and that is just sick and unjust as it can be.. teh fatcats in the executive branch would flip out of the military suddenly turned a Coup d'.tat on their asses.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to Deepthaw on Friday, July 14, 2017 15:26:14
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Deepthaw to KK4QBN on Fri Jul 14 2017 08:36 am

    The Soviets couldn't handle Afghanistan, and they're even less concerned about playing nice in warfare than we are.

    I'm not an expert on this, and I might not have all the facts, but as far as I can understand the United States TRAINED the Taliban to fight an asymmetrical war against against a *major world power* with guerilla war tactics (which they were awesome at, apparently) and then decided invading them ourselves was a good idea. I mean... what? We've spent MANY TIMES more money than the ENTIRE GDP OF THE ENTIRE COUNTRY OF AFGHANISTAN since then. It would have been cheaper just buy the damn place.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to Deepthaw on Friday, July 14, 2017 15:34:10
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to Deepthaw on Fri Jul 14 2017 03:26 pm

    them ourselves was a good idea. I mean... what? We've spent MANY TIMES more money than the ENTIRE GDP OF THE ENTIRE COUNTRY OF AFGHANISTAN since then. It would have been cheaper just buy the damn place.

    I really like to paste links to supporting evidence, but it's a pain to do that here and anyway people will accuse me of using a "liberal" fake news source... so please google: taliban offer hand over osama

    Invading Afghanistan was totaly unnecessary. They didn't have weapons of mass destruction, they weren't actually HIDING Osama Bin Laden from us... we just preferred to invade them. Woops.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to Deepthaw on Friday, July 14, 2017 15:58:03
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to Deepthaw on Fri Jul 14 2017 03:34 pm

    I really like to paste links to supporting evidence, but it's a pain to do

    This article is so good I'm making an exception and typing it out by hand. We've bullied North Korea for a long time...

    www.peoplesworld.org/article/the-need-for-a-new-u-s-policy-toward-north-korea/

    I'm not defending North Korea or anything, that guy is crazy, but we do military training with South Korea and PRACTICE blowing them up, and they're understandably pissed about it. They'd be a lot LESS crazy if we stopped doing that. You wouldn't want your neighbors openly training to kill you, with the support of a (from your point of view) hostile world power either, would you? When the Soviets put missiles in Cuba we lost our fucking minds about it -- and that's not an irrational reaction. If those missiles were still there we'd STILL be losing our minds about it.

    Without even making it ideological, having missiles pointed at you from within an easy driving distance for 50 years has to fuck you up, you know? They're CRAZY for a reason. Again, I'm not defending them, I don't want to go live there, it's cold and weird there, but I can at least understand that they're crazy about missile tests because a missile that can hit California is their only bargaining chip.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Saturday, July 15, 2017 01:11:48
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to Deepthaw on Fri Jul 14 2017 15:26:14

    The Soviets couldn't handle Afghanistan, and they're even less
    concerned about playing nice in warfare than we are.

    I'm not an expert on this, and I might not have all the facts, but as far as I can understand the United States TRAINED the Taliban to fight an asymmetrical war against against a *major world power* with guerilla war tactics (which they were awesome at, apparently) and then decided invading them ourselves was a good idea. I mean... what? We've spent MANY TIMES more money than the ENTIRE GDP OF THE ENTIRE COUNTRY OF AFGHANISTAN since then. It would have been cheaper just buy the damn place.
    [0m

    defense contracts are expensive, an there are many people from the defense industry lining certain politicians pockets with that what you call it... pork.. its a win win for these scumbags... get money from the defense industry, oil industry, and drug industry... they pay for the weapons with poppey, and use the weapons to keep the routes open for the oil to flow...

    Living off the grid in the US is illegal for the most part.. cannot even collect your own rain water..

    think of all the money that has went to keeping clean energy technology from evolving..technologically, we are 100s of years behind.. first because the church hiding innovation, and now the government..

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Saturday, July 15, 2017 01:12:54
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to Deepthaw on Fri Jul 14 2017 15:34:10

    Invading Afghanistan was totaly unnecessary. They didn't have weapons of mass destruction, they weren't actually HIDING Osama Bin Laden from us... we just preferred to invade them. Woops.
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    DEFENSE CONTRACTORS NEEDED MONEY..

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to KK4QBN on Saturday, July 15, 2017 09:43:08
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Deepthaw on Fri Jul 14 2017 04:01 pm

    War is taken too lightly.. in my mind.. if one country invades another, and wins, topples the leaders, etc.. The loser should then become PROPERTY of the winner. no puppet governments skirting the issues. It should be made territory of the winning party.. and have that parties government, laws imposed..

    Lol then we'd have to give them social security and a minimum wage...

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to KK4QBN on Saturday, July 15, 2017 09:53:01
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Deepthaw on Fri Jul 14 2017 04:01 pm

    that does nothing to him, its just starving his citizens.

    To be fair, a lot of them might be starving anyway... pickling cabbages to survive the winter... it's not awesome in North Korea in general, it's really cold and it sucks for farming. They got the short end of the geography stick. It's really tempting to just see a bad government making bad decisions, but it's not like they legislated to have a mountainous country that can't grow enough rice to feed everyone.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to KK4QBN on Saturday, July 15, 2017 09:58:35
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Fri Jul 14 2017 04:07 pm

    and that is just sick and unjust as it can be.. teh fatcats in the executive branch would flip out of the military suddenly turned a Coup d'.tat on their asses.

    Hahahahaha they only care about their careers. I'm sure there are a few really good people mixed in, but the Holy Grail for an officer is to retire after 20 years and become an executive for Boeing or Raytheon, etc., etc.

    Even the Chaplains are in this game.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Saturday, July 15, 2017 11:54:02
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Sat Jul 15 2017 09:43:08

    another, and wins, topples the leaders, etc.. The loser should then
    become PROPERTY of the winner. no puppet governments skirting the
    issues. It should be made territory of the winning party.. and have
    that parties government, laws imposed..

    Lol then we'd have to give them social security and a minimum wage...

    Hell.. we already do..

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Saturday, July 15, 2017 11:55:59
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Sat Jul 15 2017 09:53:01

    that does nothing to him, its just starving his citizens.

    To be fair, a lot of them might be starving anyway... pickling cabbages to survive the winter... it's not awesome in North Korea in general, it's really cold and it sucks for farming. They got the short end of the geography stick. It's really tempting to just see a bad government making bad decisions, but it's not like they legislated to have a mountainous country that can't grow enough rice to feed everyone.

    But they cannot leave.. one leaves, they imprison the whole family.. If you're starving in whatever situation you are in, at least you can leave that situation and try to make a better life for yourself.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Saturday, July 15, 2017 11:58:33
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Sat Jul 15 2017 09:58:35

    Hahahahaha they only care about their careers. I'm sure there are a few really good people mixed in, but the Holy Grail for an officer is to retire after 20 years and become an executive for Boeing or Raytheon, etc., etc.

    It's sick that this has become our culture.. this is not the way a democratic republic is suppose to run. Yes. there is suppose to be competition.. and people who work hard to earn a good lot in life deserve it.. but most corporate execs, and politicians got there by either screwing someone.. or... screwing someone..

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to KK4QBN on Saturday, July 15, 2017 18:08:44
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Sat Jul 15 2017 11:55 am

    But they cannot leave.. one leaves, they imprison the whole family.. If you're starving in whatever situation you are in, at least you can leave that situation and try to make a better life for yourself.

    I don't disagree, they're crazy over there. But they're backed into a corner economically and militarily, and I'm just not all that surprised about how crazy they are. News stories about NK act like it's some kind of mystery. OF COURSE they want a bomb that can hit NYC... it's a no brainer, isn't it? We've been practicing how to invade them for 50 years.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Saturday, July 15, 2017 23:28:51
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Sat Jul 15 2017 18:08:44

    I don't disagree, they're crazy over there. But they're backed into a corner economically and militarily, and I'm just not all that surprised about how crazy they are. News stories about NK act like it's some kind of mystery. OF COURSE they want a bomb that can hit NYC... it's a no brainer, isn't it? We've been practicing how to invade them for 50 years.

    Which brings me back to the original point.. finish what we start, or get into.. or don't get into it at all..

    more money to be made off war then peace though..

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to KK4QBN on Sunday, July 16, 2017 09:40:33
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Sat Jul 15 2017 11:28 pm

    Which brings me back to the original point.. finish what we start, or get

    That's it exactly. What does that even look like? How are we supposed to know when we're finished? We do these crazy things with no apparent goals!!!!!
    What was SUPPOSED to happen in Afghanistan, for example?

    What was it REALLY a full on criminal conspiracy to make contractors rich and get our officers nice retirement jobs? Or maybe we just really believe we're *the best*, we're special, like we're invincible, or that Jesus would protect us, and bullets only hurt OTHER people...?

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Sunday, July 16, 2017 13:06:11
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Sun Jul 16 2017 09:40:33

    Which brings me back to the original point.. finish what we start, or
    get

    That's it exactly. What does that even look like? How are we supposed to know when we're finished? We do these crazy things with no apparent goals!!!!! What was SUPPOSED to happen in Afghanistan, for example?

    I don't think the military knows what "being finished" looks like.. not since Korea.. yeah.. there are still stigma from WWII.. but shit got done..

    everything else pretty much seems like "War Games" but with real kids coming home in draped caskets.

    yeah, 20 of our low ranking front line people may have been blown to pieces by ONE person who believes he has 72 virgins waiting on the other side.. but at least this 500 ft of oil pipeline is now secure.

    Either stay out of shit, or go in FULL, get it done, and ANNEX the country.. make it our own.. or hell.. give sections to allies too.. sounds dirty maybe.. but its much more humane then whats happening now..

    drones flying over the middle eastern skies 24/7. Sure their accuracy is pinpoint.. but a lot of these "Spooks" intelligence is wrong.. so there.. some 17-18 year old air force private, sitting in a shipping container somewhere sucking on a monster energy drinl, thinking he's playing call of duty just killed a family of innocent civilians..

    war should be EYE TO EYE.. and the GENERALS should be on the frontline leading the charge.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to KK4QBN on Monday, July 17, 2017 12:25:34
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Sun Jul 16 2017 01:06 pm

    at least this 500 ft of oil pipeline is now secure.

    Either stay out of shit, or go in FULL, get it done, and ANNEX the country.. make it our own.. or hell.. give sections to allies too.. sounds dirty maybe.. but its much more humane then whats happening now..

    We did try that. Never read them, but Iraq and Afghanistan do actually have democratic constitutions that "coincidentally" look a lot like the what the US or European countries have. As far as I can tell though, we thought we'd go into Iraq and Afghanistan (and everywhere else) and set up a democratic constitution and as a kind of formality and the end state was McDonalds and Starbucks and Coca Cola machines.

    It turned out though, rural Aghanistanis are much happier staying that way and fighting to the death over the tiniest patch of farmable land on the side of a hill somewhere, and don't give a fuck about Starbucks.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to KK4QBN on Monday, July 17, 2017 12:37:23
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Mon Jul 17 2017 12:25 pm

    side of a hill somewhere, and don't give a fuck about Starbucks.

    I think as a whole we REALLY BELIEVED (without especially good evidence) that we are THE BEST, and that everyone loves us and wants to be like us, and the rest of the world were quietly lining up to learn how to be like us and open up Burger King and 7/11 franchises in their communities, and finally be civilized... and that they'd say thank you.

    They are not saying thank you. They are saying wtf is wrong with you?

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to KK4QBN on Monday, July 17, 2017 12:47:49
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Mon Jul 17 2017 12:37 pm

    They are not saying thank you. They are saying wtf is wrong with you?

    A few of them, shortly before blowing themselves up. Which is a related problem. It's a HUGE problem actually, but the BIGGEST problem is that it's one in which we may or may not have the moral high ground anymore.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to KK4QBN on Monday, July 17, 2017 12:53:01
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Mon Jul 17 2017 12:25 pm


    It turned out though, rural Aghanistanis are much happier staying that way and fighting to the death over the tiniest patch of farmable land on the side of a hill somewhere, and don't give a fuck about Starbucks.

    It just hit me for the first time how much conservative gun nuts and poor Afghan farmers have in common. You think the government wants to come and "take your land"? Hahahaha yeah, except in Afghanistan that actually happened.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Monday, July 17, 2017 19:15:05
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Mon Jul 17 2017 12:25:34

    It turned out though, rural Aghanistanis are much happier staying that way and fighting to the death over the tiniest patch of farmable land on the side of a hill somewhere, and don't give a fuck about Starbucks.

    true.. if one can prove ownwership of land through lineage.. then they keep it.. jsut here in the US. I love on the northern end of New Echota, the capital city of the Cherokee nation, all this land belongs to Cherokee, it should rightfully be theirs.. I have a percentage of Cherokee blood, but not really enough to call myself Cherokee.. I'm a mutt through and through.. Enhlish/German/Irish/and Native american.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Monday, July 17, 2017 19:19:05
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Mon Jul 17 2017 12:37:23

    side of a hill somewhere, and don't give a fuck about Starbucks.

    I think as a whole we REALLY BELIEVED (without especially good evidence) that we are THE BEST, and that everyone loves us and wants to be like us, and the rest of the world were quietly lining up to learn how to be like us and open up Burger King and 7/11 franchises in their communities, and finally be civilized... and that they'd say thank you.


    I as a citizen of the US don't believe that one bit.. people want to live how their culture dictates and evolves, and we have no right to change that..

    Thats why I say, War is a BAD thing that should'nt be taken lightly.. we should'nt engage ANYONE unless we are ready to camke a coplete change in the way they live and act.

    thre are other ways to broker deals for piplines.. or finally ween ourselves off fossil fuels.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Leregard on Monday, July 17, 2017 19:21:50
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: Leregard to KK4QBN on Mon Jul 17 2017 12:53:01

    It turned out though, rural Aghanistanis are much happier staying that
    way and fighting to the death over the tiniest patch of farmable land
    on the side of a hill somewhere, and don't give a fuck about
    Starbucks.

    It just hit me for the first time how much conservative gun nuts and poor Afghan farmers have in common. You think the government wants to come and "take your land"? Hahahaha yeah, except in Afghanistan that actually happened. [0m

    I hope that was'nt directed toward me, (1) I'm not conservitive. (2) I DO NOT own a gun. (3) then land I live own, (and paid for) I don't consider my own. I consider it a part of the cherokee nation.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/REALITY to KK4QBN on Thursday, July 20, 2017 06:19:22
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Mon Jul 17 2017 07:21 pm

    I hope that was'nt directed toward me, (1) I'm not conservitive. (2) I DO NO

    It wasn't.

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  • From Leregard@VERT/REALITY to KK4QBN on Thursday, July 20, 2017 06:36:04
    Re: News Alert: US believes N. Korea launched probable ICBM
    By: KK4QBN to Leregard on Mon Jul 17 2017 07:19 pm

    I as a citizen of the US don't believe that one bit.. people want to live ho their culture dictates and evolves, and we have no right to change that..

    On the one hand, I agree with this... but on the other hand, I think Saudi Arabian women should probably be able to drive cars? And so on...

    There's a fine line between reserving the right to have opinions about other cultures and being the world police...

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