• New York Cops, Firefighters in Massive 9/11 Fraud, Indictment Says

    From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to All on Friday, September 12, 2014 13:06:20
    Jan. 7, 2014
    By AARON KATERSKY

    More than 100 retired New York City cops, firefighters and correction officers were charged today with falsely claiming to be suffering from depression and anxiety as a result of the 9/11 terror attacks, New York prosecutors said today.

    The alleged scam won awards up to $500,000 for the uniformed personnel and cost taxpayers millions of dollars, according to the indictment.

    Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance said the suspects "cynically manufactured claims of mental illness as a result of Sept 11th... dishonoring the first responders."

    Police Commissioner William Bratton said, "The retired members of the NYP indicted in this case have disgraced all first responders who perished during the search and rescue efforts on Sept. 11, 2001."

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    The prosecution backed up its case with recorded phone calls of the suspects being coached on how to behave in front of a medical board and photos of the suspects doing vigorous activity like jet skiing, doing mixed martial arts, and going on cruises after convincing doctors they were unable to leave their homes.

    Today's arrests cap a two year investigation, aided by federal investigators, the city's Department of Investigation and the NYPD's Internal Affairs Bureau.

    The alleged fraud cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars in improper Social Security benefits.

    The indictment charges four men with masterminding the alleged fraud, including attorney Raymond Lavellee, 81, Thomas Hale, 89, Joseph Esposito, 70, and John Minerva, 59.

    Hale is president of a firm that determines eligibility for Social Security disability. Esposito is a former NYPD employee and Minerva is an ex-cop who is currently a disability consultant for the Detectives Endowment Association.

    None of the accused actually suffered from debilitating stress, officials claim. Many were caught working after retirement, a violation of disability benefits.

    And some of the retired officers retained their gun permits. Retired officers cannot possess guns if they are being treated for stress.

    Court papers included what prosecutors said were recorded phone calls in which Esposito "coached" the officers how to dress and behave and now to muff questions to show that lacked concentration.

    "They're liable to say... spell the word 'world,' so you go 'W-R-L-D.' Then they're gonnna say 'Spell it backwards.' You think about it, and you can't spell it backwards," Esposito was recorded saying.

    He allegedly told officers claiming that their debilitating anxieties stemmed from the 9/11 attacks to tell examiners they were "afraid of planes and entering large buildings."

    The 9/11 attacks took a heavy toll on the city's cops, called "New York's Finest," and firefighters, dubbed "New York's Bravest." The casualty count from the terror attacks included 23 police officers and 343 firefighters.

    Most of the arrests in the fraud sweep took place in the city, with others being busted in Florida and elsewhere in New York State.

    It was the second 9/11 scam to be revealed this week. On Monday, two New Jersey men pleaded guilty to raising and keeping $50,000 for a Sept. 11 charity that was supposed to help families who lost loved one in the catastrophe.

    Thomas Scalgione and Mark Niemczyk never gave any of the more than $50,000 in proceeds to the victims' families or to charities as promised, they told the court.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/york-cops-firefighters-massive-911-fraud-indictment/st ory?id=21445783

    If anybody's interested, I'd be happy to tell my tale of exactly how the
    New Jersey National Guard forced soldiers to forge documents for
    housing allowances (tripling their pay, compared to active duty soldiers of the same rank) when we were put out on deployment, as well.


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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Khelair on Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:18:20
    Re: New York Cops, Firefighters in Massive 9/11 Fraud, Indictment Says
    By: Khelair to All on Fri Sep 12 2014 01:06 pm

    If anybody's interested, I'd be happy to tell my tale of exactly how the New Jersey National Guard forced soldiers to forge documents for
    housing allowances (tripling their pay, compared to active duty soldiers of the same rank) when we were put out on deployment, as well.


    Yes, please.

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  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Poindexter Fortran on Thursday, September 18, 2014 17:53:31
    Re: New York Cops, Firefighters in Massive 9/11 Fraud, Indictment Says
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Khelair on Wed Sep 17 2014 11:18:20

    New Jersey National Guard forced soldiers to forge documents for housing allowances (tripling their pay, compared to active duty soldier of the same rank) when we were put out on deployment, as well.

    Yes, please.

    Real simple.
    It was my first deployment with the National Guard on a fullscale deployment, and not just summercamp or annual training. When they start on the paperwork for the deployment (prior to activating title 10 federal status, where you're with the Army, and not the Army National Guard), you end up going on to a drill floor, usually, in your armory, and you spend a day there; 90% of the time waiting in lines, 10% of the time taking care of shit that could be handled much more efficiently. It's taxpayer money though, they don't give a shit. I mean, if they gave a shit, not so many commanding officers, or even simple 'full-time' national guard staff, would have so many homes full of electronics that're on the inventory list from their federal funding. You know how it goes... If the money isn't completely utilized in that fiscal year, they cut what they get the next year. So there's incentive to blow it all as thoroughly as possible. If you're fulltime, you're part of the Good Ole Boys' club, and you get the bennies. Fuck, my uncle ('retired' Air Force intelligence) has two warehouses FULL of 'fringe benefits' still in the shrinkwrap. Anyway, I digress (as usual).
    So we were heading around to all of the stations. I didn't know anybody at this armory because I'd been searching for a deployment. They'd moved me, as a 'filler', to pad up to full deployment numbers, from my home unit to one not far away that was going on this one. I didn't know anybody. I had just moved to New Jersey, and I was in a situation a bit like the one I am now. I was staying with friends, free of charge, trying to get my feet on the ground.
    When we hit the 'housing allowance' station, everybody had a lease or rental agreement. It was funny, because a lot of the lower enlisted were kids, still living with their parents, but they all had leases.
    I finally got to the JAG attorney who was going over the paperwork with everyone. They asked me where I was staying, when I said that I don't have any sort of lease or rental agreement. I stated it, and the fact that I was in Section 8 housing with another enlisted member came up, as well. More fraud, lol; of course they didn't blink an eye at it. The only reason this guy had even been ABLE to enlist was fraud based, too. He'd formerly been a
    nuke specialist with the Air Force, but tried to kill himself when his girlfriend broke up with him. That's kind of a bar for re-entry, as I'm
    sure you can understand.
    So the whole line of people is watching, and they start asking me leading questions like, "well do you pay the Johns for staying there, even just in cash?" I kept on answering no. They got more frustrated, and a higher-ranking JAG officer came over and made the comment that seemed to put all of the spectating soldiers' minds at ease with a bit of humor, "Looks like we got ourselves a boyscout here."
    Everybody laughed. He pulled me out of the line. Straight up told me that it didn't matter if I had an agreement with anyone or not. He said, "these are the benefits we're all entitled to, because we're putting our lives on the line for our country. Just go back, get them to sign something handwritten, and you'll get your housing allowance every month."
    There was no stress in his voice; the only emotion he showed was very emphatically emphasizing different bits to make it known that I wasn't going to deploy without that paperwork. He told me to get it fraudulently. Later on I found out that to 'pad the numbers' enough to get deployed (thus making the state and the commanders more money, of course) that they'd hidden my lack of ability for achieving a security clearance, too. That was funny, because I directly brought that up with them when they mentioned that we were working, on this deployment, in a field that required a security clearance. I'd been bitten by that one in the ass upon first enlistment, when my recruiter lied about it to me. They told me "don't give it a second thought, we've got it covered."
    Want to guess what the secret service wanted to talk to me about, first and foremost?
    The housing allowance, along with the meals allowance, boosts the standard enlisted payments to about three times what an active duty soldier makes. Divide the competence of a fulltime soldier by three and you've got the competence of your standard national guard weekend warrior, in most fields. Starting to see where the army's loathing for the national guard comes from, yet?
    I've got more examples of shit like this than I can believe. The military operates with a mindset that they are much more entitled to anything 'national' than an average citizen, because they're putting their lives on the line every day, etc etc, ad infinitum with the rhetoric. It's sickening. I kept my integrity every time that I could, with the military, and any time that other lives were in the balance. Yet there were a lot of other times when I had to sell my integrity out, in order to avoid being cast in a light that would've drawn severe retribution from my fellow soldiers. When the standard of your group (bound by violence) are to participate in the illegal, you don't want to stand out as having integrity. It's the same reason good cops don't go far. At some point you see those gazes; the same ones that your brothers-in-arms have cast at people down the sights of their weapons, and you realize it's time to gtfo.
    You should've seen the hoops that I had to jump through in order to keep my honorable discharge, when I was 'elected for early unenlistment'. I'm damn lucky that my JAG attorney found the evidence proving my story the night before my hearing (that I wasn't allowed at). There's no way I would've gotten my honorable without it. She didn't believe a word of what I said up until then.

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  • From Hustler@VERT/XBIT to Khelair on Friday, September 26, 2014 02:43:48
    Re: New York Cops, Firefighters in Massive 9/11 Fraud, Indictment Says
    By: Khelair to All on Fri Sep 12 2014 01:06 pm

    If anybody's interested, I'd be happy to tell my tale of exactly how the
    New Jersey National Guard forced soldiers to forge documents for
    housing allowances (tripling their pay, compared to active duty soldiers of same rank) when we were put out on deployment, as well.

    I'd like to hear about it.

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  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Hustler on Saturday, September 27, 2014 06:17:13
    Re: New York Cops, Firefighters in Massive 9/11 Fraud, Indictment Says
    By: Hustler to Khelair on Fri Sep 26 2014 02:43:48

    I'd like to hear about it.

    I poasted a write up about it in here a few days ago. I mean, it's nothing earthshaking, but it's one of those peer-pressure kinds of incidents where you realize that when everybody takes note of you turning down something that everyone else is [illegally] taking, you've all of a sudden lost the support of people that might have your back in a life-or-death situation. Even high ranking officers will come down to support you in 'doing what is wrong' in order to keep you from standing out; it's viewed as a 'big mistake', at least in the National Guard of New Jersey. Not that Jersey is known for its outstanding integrity as a whole.

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