• Problems with new onlinerz?

    From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Poindexter Fortran on Sunday, November 24, 2013 05:08:38
    I thought I might give this to y'all, if you haven't blackballed me from the whole DOVE-Net in its entirety at the behest of the secret service r fucks
    who are struggling so valiantly to keep their wobbling, stretched, and teetering web of motherfucking lies. Don't let them shut you down. Keep that line open. It's the only thing that we'll have left when the gates come down and believe me the men in motherfucking black are planning to do just that.

    Ride the lazers, here's your copypasta for the day:
    The old: can not exterminate them?
    JOSÉ PACHECO PEREIRA 30/11/2013 - 02:31
    In fact, I'm sick of exhibitions and public confrangimento exercises "social concern".

    I would love to write thoughtful, rational articles that deserve an academic and sensible aura that unite rather than divide, allowing me to have my share of seats, prizes and stipends, but I am doomed in these times, to write increasingly more flyers. Happens. That's categorical imperative, as Kant knew, is a nuisance.

    This is due to the fact of not wanting to have any falinha meek, those who fill the fat of our policy of mutual greetings and salaams, with people who show indifference ruthless, hostile to the weak who are on the wrong side of "the economy" subservient to the strong, able to use all arguments to split if there comes a little slack for your back.

    I have said and I will repeat: the legacy that these two years of "Government" Passos Coelho-Doors- troika will leave far exceed your lifetime as rulers. If not before, in 2015, will go down in history as an epiphenomenon of the times of crisis and survive embedded in the parties where their power comes as a fungus that can not clean. Will continue to spoil much, but the logic of where they came replace them with other more or less bad. The Portuguese curse is this. What more need we do not.
    The old: can not exterminate them?
    JOSÉ PACHECO PEREIRA 30/11/2013 - 02:31
    In fact, I'm sick of exhibitions and public confrangimento exercises "social concern".

    I would love to write thoughtful, rational articles that deserve an academic and sensible aura that unite rather than divide, allowing me to have my share of seats, prizes and stipends, but I am doomed in these times, to write increasingly more flyers. Happens. That's categorical imperative, as Kant knew, is a nuisance.

    This is due to the fact of not wanting to have any falinha meek, those who fill the fat of our policy of mutual greetings and salaams, with people who show indifference ruthless, hostile to the weak who are on the wrong side of "the economy" subservient to the strong, able to use all arguments to split if there comes a little slack for your back.

    I have said and I will repeat: the legacy that these two years of "Government" Passos Coelho-Doors- troika will leave far exceed your lifetime as rulers. If not before, in 2015, will go down in history as an epiphenomenon of the times of crisis and survive embedded in the parties where their power comes as a fungus that can not clean. Will continue to spoil much, but the logic of where they came replace them with other more or less bad. The Portuguese curse is this. What more need we do not.

    But, even if they are minor figures as they really are, will leave very deep tissue damage in already very fragile our collective life, digging deep divisions and conflicts, destroying what little humanity that some social welfare had allowed. They are like the Roman troops, making in their Carthage, unfortunately in our Portugal, salty and barren terrain. You can forgive them all, the policy mistakes, incompetence, cronyism, corruption of a part of the large and average, less that, this salt of the earth we walk on, just to get a little swag in this and the cost of major damage in the future.

    An example looms in recent days, it comes back, but gains a new dimension: the attack on the old because they are old, an irritation with the fact that there are so many people that remains a burden on the public purse despite no longer be "productive", not to be output in the "labor market", to be "worn". Ministers who have not read Camões and not even know who the "old Restelo" swarming us in this new ongoing party and state blogs that are in a communications agencies that are Tecnoforma of today, boys and employees of all powers to do on the Internet and in the newspapers boulot sale , all in one way or another, attacking the old, because they are old. In an aging society, it means most of the Portuguese attack in the name of an idea of youth "entrepreneurial", capable of making a business from scratch just to "ideas", "innovation" and design without the vices of the "past" able to succeed in life without "grandfathering" or social solidarity, image that has the small problem of being as mythological as the Fairy Shiny Teeth.

    Much of the attack on Mário Soares and many who were in the Aula Magna was made on behalf of them being "old", just senile. Not even by implication, is spelled out with the same kind of "arguments" with the Soviets sent dissidents to psychiatric asylums because those on the normal use of his faculties could not help being a communist. Here is the same: can only be senile who doubt the goodness of Government measures, presented as pure, inescapable, unavoidable reality. How can you be right in the head who puts into question the version of "Economese" the law of gravity? Only a madman. And if it's old, it's become senile, outdated, antiquated, petty, by definition. There is no other way to explain that there are so many old "wrong" ideas about the goodness of our "adjustment" and are obstacles to the "young" bright implementing it with vigor and without shame.

    Much of the speech against the old, which begins, strictly speaking, increasingly early age, when he loses his job and is "spent" for the labor market, is a speech utility that aims to be politically, and this is What makes it morally despicable. Intended to justify the violent attack on retirement and pensions, people who worked all his life, and he still has memory of what it cost to get these star-crossed "rights", the result of "contracts" of "trust" with the state, all old things that are "robbing" the younger of their future. Are more. And if they do not realize they are the more we will show them the contempt and plunder they should have long since disappeared.

    Much has to do with this today demonization of age. One among many, is what is happening with the collective dismissal of workers Shipyards of Viana do Castelo. Not even discuss whether the company had to shut down or not because from a certain level of deceit and degradation of language that is not the first problem. Could be, but these people are not, because in doing things as they do, always obsessed to deceive us, deserve everything turns against them, the excited of "browsers" discourse and the rhetoric of "fish" at the same time it closes the only site that was left, the disparity of not wanting to pay 180 million euros, while the rate increases for RTP, which receives every year more than that, the carelessness with which he presents as a major victory more than 600 redundancies.

    Plus the sum of the usual lies: that 400 workers will be reinstated (after all there is no guarantee), which will be paid appropriate compensation (after all it seems that only part of them), which will continue to shipbuilding (when not realize that it costs Martifer what ships are not going to do). What will happen is a huge collective dismissal by the state, the closure of the shipyards for shipbuilding, the price balance for Martifer after the State, as in BPN, pay all costs. And in vaguíssima hypothesis some workers are employed in the new company, will always be few, with lower wages, with a sheet of seniority zero, and will be out the oldest and most reivindicativos. Someone will hire a member of the works council, even though it is an excellent welder? How much of the hand labor of shipyards already have a certain age - old start being old at forty - if it is even to see their "employability".

    It costs to do the politically correct discourse that "the left has no monopoly of social sensitivity" (and does not), or say those rodriguinhos custom like "well you know how the Portuguese are suffering," or that "no Government likes to take these measures, "or praise the Portuguese for their" decisive "role in the successful implementation of" adjustment ", etc.. etc.. In fact, I'm sick of exhibitions and public confrangimento exercises "social concern", I can no longer see the hypocrisy of Passos Coelho Aguiar and White, side pavoneado exhibitionism of the soundbites of doors.

    Swift wrote in 1729 a satire on poverty in Ireland called A Modest Proposal for preventing the children of poor Irish are a burden to their parents and their country, and to make a public benefit. counseled the poor eat their children, as means of fighting hunger, "grilled, fried, boiled, stewed or boiled." In fact, when watching this attack to the condition of being older - a hassle because it requires pay and pension reforms, is an undue strain on the national health system, and, moreover, are protesting and irreverent - could move to a simpler solution. In addition to the insult, remove them from income, hinder them from everything from the obligation of walking office to office in queues for roles that allow them to avoid paying exorbitant rents, until the price of drugs, in addition to their are saying everyday that occupy undue space in this society, preventing younger singrarem of the wonderful economy of "entrepreneurs" and "innovation", would not it be possible to go a step further and "tweak" them, ie exterminate them?

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    But, even if they are minor figures as they really are, will leave very deep tissue damage in already very fragile our collective life, digging deep divisions and conflicts, destroying what little humanity that some social welfare had allowed. They are like the Roman troops, making in their Carthage, unfortunately in our Portugal, salty and barren terrain. You can forgive them all, the policy mistakes, incompetence, cronyism, corruption of a part of the large and average, less that, this salt of the earth we walk on, just to get a little swag in this and the cost of major damage in the future.

    An example looms in recent days, it comes back, but gains a new dimension: the attack on the old because they are old, an irritation with the fact that there are so many people that remains a burden on the public purse despite no longer be "productive", not to be output in the "labor market", to be "worn". Ministers who have not read Camões and not even know who the "old Restelo" swarming us in this new ongoing party and state blogs that are in a communications agencies that are Tecnoforma of today, boys and employees of all powers to do on the Internet and in the newspapers boulot sale , all in one way or another, attacking the old, because they are old. In an aging society, it means most of the Portuguese attack in the name of an idea of youth "entrepreneurial", capable of making a business from scratch just to "ideas", "innovation" and design without the vices of the "past" able to succeed in life without "grandfathering" or social solidarity, image that has the small problem of being as mythological as the Fairy Shiny Teeth.

    Much of the attack on Mário Soares and many who were in the Aula Magna was made on behalf of them being "old", just senile. Not even by implication, is spelled out with the same kind of "arguments" with the Soviets sent dissidents to psychiatric asylums because those on the normal use of his faculties could not help being a communist. Here is the same: can only be senile who doubt the goodness of Government measures, presented as pure, inescapable, unavoidable reality. How can you be right in the head who puts into question the version of "Economese" the law of gravity? Only a madman. And if it's old, it's become senile, outdated, antiquated, petty, by definition. There is no other way to explain that there are so many old "wrong" ideas about the goodness of our "adjustment" and are obstacles to the "young" bright implementing it with vigor and without shame.

    Much of the speech against the old, which begins, strictly speaking, increasingly early age, when he loses his job and is "spent" for the labor market, is a speech utility that aims to be politically, and this is What makes it morally despicable. Intended to justify the violent attack on retirement and pensions, people who worked all his life, and he still has memory of what it cost to get these star-crossed "rights", the result of "contracts" of "trust" with the state, all old things that are "robbing" the younger of their future. Are more. And if they do not realize they are the more we will show them the contempt and plunder they should have long since disappeared.

    Much has to do with this today demonization of age. One among many, is what is happening with the collective dismissal of workers Shipyards of Viana do Castelo. Not even discuss whether the company had to shut down or not because from a certain level of deceit and degradation of language that is not the first problem. Could be, but these people are not, because in doing things as they do, always obsessed to deceive us, deserve everything turns against them, the excited of "browsers" discourse and the rhetoric of "fish" at the same time it closes the only site that was left, the disparity of not wanting to pay 180 million euros, while the rate increases for RTP, which receives every year more than that, the carelessness with which he presents as a major victory more than 600 redundancies.

    Plus the sum of the usual lies: that 400 workers will be reinstated (after all there is no guarantee), which will be paid appropriate compensation (after all it seems that only part of them), which will continue to shipbuilding (when not realize that it costs Martifer what ships are not going to do). What will happen is a huge collective dismissal by the state, the closure of the shipyards for shipbuilding, the price balance for Martifer after the State, as in BPN, pay all costs. And in vaguíssima hypothesis some workers are employed in the new company, will always be few, with lower wages, with a sheet of seniority zero, and will be out the oldest and most reivindicativos. Someone will hire a member of the works council, even though it is an excellent welder? How much of the hand labor of shipyards already have a certain age - old start being old at forty - if it is even to see their "employability".

    It costs to do the politically correct discourse that "the left has no monopoly of social sensitivity" (and does not), or say those rodriguinhos custom like "well you know how the Portuguese are suffering," or that "no Government likes to take these measures, "or praise the Portuguese for their" decisive "role in the successful implementation of" adjustment ", etc.. etc.. In fact, I'm sick of exhibitions and public confrangimento exercises "social concern", I can no longer see the hypocrisy of Passos Coelho Aguiar and White, side pavoneado exhibitionism of the soundbites of doors.

    Swift wrote in 1729 a satire on poverty in Ireland called A Modest Proposal for preventing the children of poor Irish are a burden to their parents and their country, and to make a public benefit. counseled the poor eat their children, as means of fighting hunger, "grilled, fried, boiled, stewed or boiled." In fact, when watching this attack to the condition of being older - a hassle because it requires pay and pension reforms, is an undue strain on the national health system, and, moreover, are protesting and irreverent - could move to a simpler solution. In addition to the insult, remove them from income, hinder them from everything from the obligation of walking office to office in queues for roles that allow them to avoid paying exorbitant rents, until the price of drugs, in addition to their are saying everyday that occupy undue space in this society, preventing younger singrarem of the wonderful economy of "entrepreneurs" and "innovation", would not it be possible to go a step further and "tweak" them, ie exterminate them?

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    Care should be used, but action needs to be taken. We are at the point of this cusp and the only chance of doing it with minimal bloodshed and death is to pour the information down everyone's throats until they're covered in it because it's been inside and out and they've had to vomit it up because they can't believe the horror of the truth of the things that they have supported and paid into with the American dollar and corporate businesses in the meantime.



    Follow me. We will bring about the eterno mundo verde. That is, the eternally green earth. Wrapped in love, instead of hate and violence. The time for inaction has passed. We fight now, but we do it with love, and nonviolently in any way possible. It will never be one of us that throws the first punch, although we've got ninjas and special forces on our side, too.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to SBL on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 03:00:00
    Re: Problems with new onlinerz?
    By: Khelair to Poindexter Fortran on Sun Nov 24 2013 05:08 am

    I thought I might give this to y'all, if you haven't blackballed me from the whole DOVE-Net in its entirety at the behest of the secret service r fucks who are struggling so valiantly to keep their wobbling, stretched, and teetering web of motherfucking lies. Don't let them shut you down.

    WE LOVE YOU.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 18:56:19
    Re: realitycheckBBS
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to SBL on Tue Dec 10 2013 03:00 am

    Re: Problems with new onlinerz?
    By: Khelair to Poindexter Fortran on Sun Nov 24 2013 05:08 am

    I thought I might give this to y'all, if you haven't blackballed me from the whole DOVE-Net in its entirety at the behest of the secret service r fucks who are struggling so valiantly to keep their
    wobbling, stretched, and teetering web of motherfucking lies. Don't let them shut you down.


    i've had him in my twatlist for a year. went on vert to read it. jesus christ big wall of text.

    fucker's a crazy conspiracy nut
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  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Mro on Friday, December 13, 2013 23:08:54
    Re: realitycheckBBS
    By: Mro to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Dec 10 2013 18:56:19

    i've had him in my twatlist for a year. went on vert to read it. jesus chris big wall of text.

    fucker's a crazy conspiracy nut

    The one night I decide to have some fun I'm judged by the asshole who hasn't read any of the serious contributions I've made due to being in his twatlist for over a year. :P
    Oh well, at least I didn't say that a constant asshole like him needs to have a bullet in his head.

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