• Sonic Foundry

    From Conscentity@VERT/THORNY'S to ALL on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 16:25:00
    What do you guys think of Sony acquiring Sonic Foundry(Sound Forge, Acid, etc...)?

    Conscentity

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Conscentity on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 21:07:00
    Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to ALL on Wed May 07 2003 04:25 pm

    What do you guys think of Sony acquiring Sonic Foundry(Sound Forge, Acid, et

    Conscentity


    Wow I hadn't heard that. That might be a good thing.

    I was recoring on the computer but have since moved back to hardware using the VF-160. Both have pros and cos, recording in the computer is probably better, but I needed more inputs recoding at once and I didn't want the hassle of installing a sound card for each additional input.

    ---TLM

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  • From Conscentity@VERT/THORNY'S to The Lizard Master on Thursday, May 08, 2003 14:26:00
    Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to ALL on Wed May 07 2003 04:25 pm

    What do you guys think of Sony acquiring Sonic Foundry(Sound Forge, Acid, et >>
    Conscentity


    Wow I hadn't heard that. That might be a good thing.

    I was recoring on the computer but have since moved back to hardware using the >VF-160. Both have pros and cos, recording in the computer is probably better, >but I needed more inputs recoding at once and I didn't want the hassle of >installing a sound card for each additional input.

    ---TLM

    I used to be quite anti-computer when it came from music production, but
    I purchased an audiophile sound card, cubasis, sound forge and acid and
    I've decided that it's a lot nicer to work with recordings with a mouse and something I can visually see on my computer. I usually record one track
    at a time, so I don't need more than 2 inputs. The do have some sound
    cards that can handle multiple inputs. But that starts to get more expensive.

    Conscentity

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  • From tracker1@VERT/RDBBS to All on Thursday, May 08, 2003 21:39:00
    The wrote:
    Wow I hadn't heard that. That might be a good thing.

    I was recoring on the computer but have since moved back to hardware using the
    VF-160. Both have pros and cos, recording in the computer is probably better,
    but I needed more inputs recoding at once and I didn't want the hassle of installing a sound card for each additional input.

    Don't some of the pro-grade sound cards have more than one input & more than one output?

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  • From PistolGrip@VERT/WASTELND to tracker1 on Friday, May 09, 2003 01:31:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: tracker1 to All on Thu May 08 2003 09:39 pm

    Wow I hadn't heard that. That might be a good thing.

    I was recoring on the computer but have since moved back to hardware using VF-160. Both have pros and cos, recording in the computer is probably bet but I needed more inputs recoding at once and I didn't want the hassle of installing a sound card for each additional input.

    Don't some of the pro-grade sound cards have more than one input & more than one output?

    Sure, you can buy 'break-out' boxes with 8-24 inputs/outputs fairly cheap. They're basically a PCI card and a rackmount unit with A/D & D/A converters.

    I've used the MOTU 24i/o for a while and it works well, 24bit w/ 24 Inputs
    and 24 Outputs. But, it is on the high-end and costs about $1000.00. Worth
    it though if you're recording lots of tracks (ie. live bands).

    http://www.motu.com/english/motuaudio/24IO/body.html

    For around $400.00 you can get the MOTU 1224 with 10 Inputs and 12 Outputs.

    http://www.motu.com/english/motuaudio/1224/body.html

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  • From PistolGrip@VERT/WASTELND to Conscentity on Friday, May 09, 2003 01:37:00
    Re: RE:Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to The Lizard Master on Thu May 08 2003 02:26 pm

    I was recoring on the computer but have since moved back to hardware using VF-160. Both have pros and cos, recording in the computer is probably bet but I needed more inputs recoding at once and I didn't want the hassle of installing a sound card for each additional input.

    I used to be quite anti-computer when it came from music production, but
    I purchased an audiophile sound card, cubasis, sound forge and acid and
    I've decided that it's a lot nicer to work with recordings with a mouse and something I can visually see on my computer. I usually record one track
    at a time, so I don't need more than 2 inputs. The do have some sound
    cards that can handle multiple inputs. But that starts to get more expensiv

    I used to be "Mr. Analog" when it came to recording medium. It took the big improvement in fidelity that came with 24bit Pro-Tools before I started to consider not using the 2" Studer 24 Track in the machine room. Eventually, as I did more projects on the computer I started to realize the benefits only a computer can offer as a recording tool. The "visual" element you mention is definitely one, but the one that has me hooked is the editing capabilities. The power is unlimited with the right software package and plug-ins.

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to tracker1 on Friday, May 09, 2003 10:09:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: tracker1 to All on Thu May 08 2003 09:39 pm

    The wrote:
    Wow I hadn't heard that. That might be a good thing.

    I was recoring on the computer but have since moved back to hardware using VF-160. Both have pros and cos, recording in the computer is probably bet but I needed more inputs recoding at once and I didn't want the hassle of installing a sound card for each additional input.

    Don't some of the pro-grade sound cards have more than one input & more than one output?


    Yea, I saw some break out boxes and such, but I really wanted to be able to record at least 6 at a time, and I can do 8 with the 16 track so I just decided against the computer. I don't have anything against it and infact my brother who drums doesn't care about having individual drums mic'd and likes recording on the computer so we battle that a little bit :).

    ---TLM

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  • From Tim Post@VERT to Conscentity on Thursday, October 30, 2003 01:01:35
    Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to ALL on Wed May 07 2003 04:25 pm

    What do you guys think of Sony acquiring Sonic Foundry(Sound Forge, Acid, et

    Conscentity


    I think we can look forward to many improvements in the program. I use acid quite a bit because of its simplicity.. if Sony is able to keep it easy to use, add the hundreds more Direct X filters they've been boasting, improve the routing functionality (supposedly, even the solo bus will have virtual sends and returns [for like track beat counters, metronomes, etc... ])... I'd love it.

    Pro Tools is wonderful. Unfortunately Pro Tools LE which is being included with most of Digidesigns M-box series of interfaces is not. I need low latency close to real time results when I am adjusting a track EQ, playing with reverb, etc. When you love little tricks such as duplicating a track panning each left or right and using different fx chains on both (try that with a mandolin!!) you really need the fx to work real time.. and it IS a software problem as the Mbox has almost a 0 latency :)


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  • From Tim Post@VERT to Conscentity on Thursday, October 30, 2003 01:09:50
    Re: RE:Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to The Lizard Master on Thu May 08 2003 02:26 pm

    Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to ALL on Wed May 07 2003 04:25 pm

    What do you guys think of Sony acquiring Sonic Foundry(Sound Forge, Acid, >>
    Conscentity


    Wow I hadn't heard that. That might be a good thing.

    I was recoring on the computer but have since moved back to hardware using >VF-160. Both have pros and cos, recording in the computer is probably bett >but I needed more inputs recoding at once and I didn't want the hassle of >installing a sound card for each additional input.

    ---TLM

    I used to be quite anti-computer when it came from music production, but
    I purchased an audiophile sound card, cubasis, sound forge and acid and
    I've decided that it's a lot nicer to work with recordings with a mouse and something I can visually see on my computer. I usually record one track
    at a time, so I don't need more than 2 inputs. The do have some sound
    cards that can handle multiple inputs. But that starts to get more expensiv

    Conscentity


    I just replaced my Mackie console with a Behringer Eurorack UB1622 FX-Pro.. and I love it. Combined with a firewire Digidesign interface (8 in 8 out), and the routing of the Behringer I get a great real time mix down. I have two main groups, and two assignable sub groups. Each of the 12 channels are assignable (plus the solo bus). They have also so thoughtfully included the "mid-mid" range EQ on each channel. 4 of the stereo inputs feature channel inserts, and some really really nice pre-amps done by Focus Rite. Built in fx.. I'm playing back tracks that sound like they were done on an 8 bus mastering desk to an 8 channel DAT. And last but not least (man I love to brag about Behringer... so thoughtful to find +48v phantom power on the 4 balanced inputs :D)

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  • From Tim Post@VERT to The Lizard Master on Thursday, October 30, 2003 01:13:30
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: The Lizard Master to tracker1 on Fri May 09 2003 10:09 am

    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: tracker1 to All on Thu May 08 2003 09:39 pm

    The wrote:
    Wow I hadn't heard that. That might be a good thing.

    I was recoring on the computer but have since moved back to hardware us VF-160. Both have pros and cos, recording in the computer is probably but I needed more inputs recoding at once and I didn't want the hassle installing a sound card for each additional input.

    Don't some of the pro-grade sound cards have more than one input & more t one output?


    Yea, I saw some break out boxes and such, but I really wanted to be able to record at least 6 at a time, and I can do 8 with the 16 track so I just deci against the computer. I don't have anything against it and infact my brothe who drums doesn't care about having individual drums mic'd and likes recordi on the computer so we battle that a little bit :).

    ---TLM


    I have yet to meet a drummer who is cooperative enough NOT to need the customary 12 mics and his own damn mixer. Wait until he gets himself a gong or something hahahaha.. you'll me a mic-in :)


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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Tim Post on Thursday, October 30, 2003 13:35:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Tim Post to The Lizard Master on Thu Oct 30 2003 12:13 am

    Yea, I saw some break out boxes and such, but I really wanted to be able record at least 6 at a time, and I can do 8 with the 16 track so I just d against the computer. I don't have anything against it and infact my bro who drums doesn't care about having individual drums mic'd and likes reco on the computer so we battle that a little bit :).

    ---TLM


    I have yet to meet a drummer who is cooperative enough NOT to need the customary 12 mics and his own damn mixer. Wait until he gets himself a gong something hahahaha.. you'll me a mic-in :)

    haha true. My drummer used to use rolan pro-v's or whatever, the higher level electronic drums. They were pretty cool and easy to record, but he sold to get a cheaper real set. I still like the real set better, but not as easy to record.

    ---TLM

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  • From Tim Post@VERT to The Lizard Master on Thursday, October 30, 2003 15:07:06
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: The Lizard Master to Tim Post on Thu Oct 30 2003 12:35 pm

    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Tim Post to The Lizard Master on Thu Oct 30 2003 12:13 am

    Yea, I saw some break out boxes and such, but I really wanted to be ab record at least 6 at a time, and I can do 8 with the 16 track so I jus against the computer. I don't have anything against it and infact my who drums doesn't care about having individual drums mic'd and likes r on the computer so we battle that a little bit :).

    ---TLM


    I have yet to meet a drummer who is cooperative enough NOT to need the customary 12 mics and his own damn mixer. Wait until he gets himself a go something hahahaha.. you'll me a mic-in :)

    haha true. My drummer used to use rolan pro-v's or whatever, the higher lev electronic drums. They were pretty cool and easy to record, but he sold to a cheaper real set. I still like the real set better, but not as easy to record.

    ---TLM



    Drums are a complete headache for anyone behind a mixing console. I could burn up 4 compressors just micing a drum set.. and we haven't talked about gongs or bongos yet. Or cow bells.. or anything else they can find to hit and make noise <g>. Shure makes the best drum mics I've ever used. I did reinforcement for a goth band.. every time a female under 50 walked by their drummer, he did a 40 note fill in.. no matter WHAT was going on. With good compressors and the response from the Shure mics it was fine.

    Nothing against drummers lol .. You show up, I hand you a 16 channel, the mics and a snake and say "have a blast :)"


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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Tim Post on Friday, October 31, 2003 14:13:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Tim Post to The Lizard Master on Thu Oct 30 2003 02:07 pm

    Nothing against drummers lol .. You show up, I hand you a 16 channel, the mi and a snake and say "have a blast :)"

    Drummers are nothing by monkies with sticks! Isn't that true DM? heh.

    ---TLM

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Lizard Master on Friday, October 31, 2003 14:05:42
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: The Lizard Master to Tim Post on Fri Oct 31 2003 01:13 pm

    Nothing against drummers lol .. You show up, I hand you a 16 channel, the and a snake and say "have a blast :)"

    Drummers are nothing by monkies with sticks! Isn't that true DM? heh.

    That's true of my daughter. However, I've evolved over 20+ years of playing to the "chimpanzee" phase and hope to soon elevate my playing (and intellect) to the ultimate "gorilla" phase, or I may choose the divergent (Jazz) path of "orangutan".

    digital man

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Digital Man on Friday, October 31, 2003 21:03:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Digital Man to The Lizard Master on Fri Oct 31 2003 13:
    05:00

    Drummers are nothing by monkies with sticks! Isn't that true DM? heh.

    That's true of my daughter....

    I thought of her just this afternoon, when I peered through the kitchen window and saw a HUGE green monkey just a few feet away in the back yard. I ran for the camera, but he was gone by time I got back. Thankfully, Dotty was asleep, or there would have been mayhem in the back yard.....

    (Ob. Pro-Audio) How's the little drummer, anyway? ;-)


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Angus Mcleod on Saturday, November 01, 2003 00:14:52
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Angus Mcleod to Digital Man on Fri Oct 31 2003 08:03 pm

    Drummers are nothing by monkies with sticks! Isn't that true DM? heh.

    That's true of my daughter....

    I thought of her just this afternoon, when I peered through the kitchen wind and saw a HUGE green monkey just a few feet away in the back yard. I ran fo the camera, but he was gone by time I got back. Thankfully, Dotty was aslee or there would have been mayhem in the back yard.....

    (Ob. Pro-Audio) How's the little drummer, anyway? ;-)

    She's great. We took her treat-or-treating tonight for the first time (dressed as "Tinker Bell"), she was exceptionally cute and had a great time!

    Happy Halloween!

    digital man

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  • From Hausmaus@VERT/MIDNITE1 to Digital Man on Friday, October 31, 2003 23:35:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Digital Man to The Lizard Master on Fri Oct 31 2003 01:05 pm

    "orangutan".

    (rotflmao)

    So, it's true, if you give a chimp a typewriter, he'll eventually produce the works of Shakespear? <G>

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Hausmaus on Saturday, November 01, 2003 01:20:39
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Hausmaus to Digital Man on Fri Oct 31 2003 10:35 pm

    "orangutan".

    (rotflmao)

    So, it's true, if you give a chimp a typewriter, he'll eventually produce th works of Shakespear? <G>

    Or Synchronet. Those are the only 2 possibilities.

    digital man

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Digital Man on Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:32:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Fri Oct 31 2003 23:14:00

    (Ob. Pro-Audio) How's the little drummer, anyway? ;-)

    She's great. We took her treat-or-treating tonight for the first time (dress as "Tinker Bell"), she was exceptionally cute and had a great time!

    Nice to hear it! Give her a hug'n'akiss for me. Also, please pass on warm regards to the wyf!

    Happy Halloween!

    Thanks, and same to you! Dotty didn't go trick-or-treating. He does entirely too many tricks all year round. So I just fed him treats until he was full.

    :)

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  • From Hausmaus@VERT/MIDNITE1 to Digital Man on Saturday, November 01, 2003 15:04:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Digital Man to Hausmaus on Sat Nov 01 2003 12:20 am

    Or Synchronet. Those are the only 2 possibilities.

    True, true. ;)

    Later,
    HM


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Angus Mcleod on Saturday, November 01, 2003 23:40:07
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Angus Mcleod to Digital Man on Sat Nov 01 2003 09:32 am

    (Ob. Pro-Audio) How's the little drummer, anyway? ;-)

    She's great. We took her treat-or-treating tonight for the first time (dr as "Tinker Bell"), she was exceptionally cute and had a great time!

    Nice to hear it! Give her a hug'n'akiss for me. Also, please pass on warm regards to the wyf!

    Indeed. She says "hi" and that she'll get more photos on the web-site soon!

    Happy Halloween!

    Thanks, and same to you! Dotty didn't go trick-or-treating. He does entire too many tricks all year round. So I just fed him treats until he was full.

    Not chocolate treats though, right?

    digital man

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  • From Tim Post@VERT to Digital Man on Sunday, November 02, 2003 06:05:37
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Digital Man to Hausmaus on Sat Nov 01 2003 12:20 am

    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Hausmaus to Digital Man on Fri Oct 31 2003 10:35 pm

    "orangutan".

    (rotflmao)

    So, it's true, if you give a chimp a typewriter, he'll eventually produce works of Shakespear? <G>

    Or Synchronet. Those are the only 2 possibilities.

    digital man

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    Hmm... vert's FTP is down again.. Man I swear.. they must have a trained chimp at the console ;)


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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Digital Man on Sunday, November 02, 2003 12:29:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Sat Nov 01 2003 22:40:00

    Happy Halloween!

    Thanks, and same to you! Dotty didn't go trick-or-treating. He does ent too many tricks all year round. So I just fed him treats until he was fu

    Not chocolate treats though, right?

    No, I don't give him chocolate. I understand it's bad for doggies hearts. I give him little meaty dog biscuits (various sorts) and honey-roasted peanuts, and salted herring and tuna fish and pieces of apple and so on and so forth. Things which I've come to know he particularly likes.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Angus Mcleod on Sunday, November 02, 2003 20:06:46
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Angus Mcleod to Digital Man on Sun Nov 02 2003 12:29 pm

    Happy Halloween!

    Thanks, and same to you! Dotty didn't go trick-or-treating. He does too many tricks all year round. So I just fed him treats until he was

    Not chocolate treats though, right?

    No, I don't give him chocolate. I understand it's bad for doggies hearts. give him little meaty dog biscuits (various sorts) and honey-roasted peanuts and salted herring and tuna fish and pieces of apple and so on and so forth. Things which I've come to know he particularly likes.

    Ah, so no "Halloween" treats then... unless they're black and orange colored biscuits. :-)

    digital man

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Digital Man on Monday, November 03, 2003 00:27:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Sun Nov 02 2003 20:06:00

    Things which I've come to know he particularly likes.

    Ah, so no "Halloween" treats then... unless they're black and orange colored biscuits. :-)

    No, no special halloweeny treats. I gave him some nacho-flavoured tortilla chips with hot salsa and some hot'n'spicy chicken wings, which he ate with relish, but then I had to give him two bowls of vanilla-flavoured milk to drink to cool his little mouff! :) He also crunched up the ice and ate it. He likes crunching up and eating ice! I burned three fingers on my left hand a couple nights ago (minor kitchen accident) and was treating the injuries with ice. Dotty kept coming along and demanding that I give him the ice to eat. Which made me then go fetch more ice -- difficult when operating with only one hand!



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Angus Mcleod on Monday, November 03, 2003 12:46:05
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Angus Mcleod to Digital Man on Mon Nov 03 2003 12:27 am

    Things which I've come to know he particularly likes.

    Ah, so no "Halloween" treats then... unless they're black and orange colo biscuits. :-)

    No, no special halloweeny treats. I gave him some nacho-flavoured tortilla chips with hot salsa and some hot'n'spicy chicken wings, which he ate with relish, but then I had to give him two bowls of vanilla-flavoured milk to dr to cool his little mouff! :) He also crunched up the ice and ate it. He likes crunching up and eating ice! I burned three fingers on my left hand a couple nights ago (minor kitchen accident) and was treating the injuries wit ice. Dotty kept coming along and demanding that I give him the ice to eat. Which made me then go fetch more ice -- difficult when operating with only o hand!

    Ah, I well I hope the audio-reproduction of the ice crunching and milk slurping was recorded accurately with your new Shure SM86 condenser mic! :-)

    digital man

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  • From Angus Mcleod@VERT/ANJO to Digital Man on Monday, November 03, 2003 22:34:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Mon Nov 03 2003 12:46:00

    Ah, I well I hope the audio-reproduction of the ice crunching and milk slurp was recorded accurately with your new Shure SM86 condenser mic! :-)

    Ah! Well, it _wasn't_ but I'm sure it _would_ have been! But let us return to our regularly scheduled programming....

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Digital Man on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 13:07:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Mon Nov 03 2003 12:46 pm

    Ah, I well I hope the audio-reproduction of the ice crunching and milk slurp was recorded accurately with your new Shure SM86 condenser mic! :-)


    We should make an FTP or something to exchange some of our recordings and stuff.

    ---TLM

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  • From Tim Post@VERT to Digital Man on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 14:18:13
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Mon Nov 03 2003 12:46 pm

    Ah, I well I hope the audio-reproduction of the ice crunching and milk slurp was recorded accurately with your new Shure SM86 condenser mic! :-)

    digital man


    Have you tried the "clone" to that mic? Samson makes it.. its a .. (pics up mic) C-01. About $120 store bought, $30 extra for the shock mount, cool free case. 48V Phantom Powered Studio Condensor, the pattern is almost identical to Shures / Neiman / AudioTechnica similar mics. It doesnt have that super-nifty bass selector switch, but most decent mixers will have the lo-cut on each balanced channel. Give it a try next time you go to the toy store :)


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  • From Tim Post@VERT to The Lizard Master on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 14:20:15
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: The Lizard Master to Digital Man on Tue Nov 04 2003 01:07 pm

    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Digital Man to Angus Mcleod on Mon Nov 03 2003 12:46 pm

    Ah, I well I hope the audio-reproduction of the ice crunching and milk sl was recorded accurately with your new Shure SM86 condenser mic! :-)


    We should make an FTP or something to exchange some of our recordings and stuff.

    ---TLM


    A royalty free sound byte ftp would be kinda cool. Back in the early 90's I recorded a toilet flushing.. made a voc.. and that thing went GLOBAL lol. I think it would be some fun :)


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Tim Post on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 14:57:41
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Tim Post to Digital Man on Tue Nov 04 2003 02:18 pm

    Ah, I well I hope the audio-reproduction of the ice crunching and milk sl was recorded accurately with your new Shure SM86 condenser mic! :-)

    Have you tried the "clone" to that mic? Samson makes it.. its a .. (pics up mic) C-01. About $120 store bought, $30 extra for the shock mount, cool free case. 48V Phantom Powered Studio Condensor, the pattern is almost identical Shures / Neiman / AudioTechnica similar mics. It doesnt have that super-nift bass selector switch, but most decent mixers will have the lo-cut on each balanced channel. Give it a try next time you go to the toy store :)

    Will do. I also have a set of Oktava "pencil" condensers that were pretty cheap, but they sound great. They have more "color" than the Shure's, but I like 'em a lot.

    digital man

    Snapple "Real Fact" #2:
    Animals that lay eggs dont have belly buttons.

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Tim Post on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:09:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Tim Post to The Lizard Master on Tue Nov 04 2003 02:20 pm

    We should make an FTP or something to exchange some of our recordings and stuff.

    ---TLM


    A royalty free sound byte ftp would be kinda cool. Back in the early 90's I recorded a toilet flushing.. made a voc.. and that thing went GLOBAL lol. I think it would be some fun :)


    I actaully think I may have downloaded that! :)

    ---TLM

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  • From Tim Post@VERT to Digital Man on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 19:25:06
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Digital Man to Tim Post on Tue Nov 04 2003 02:57 pm

    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Tim Post to Digital Man on Tue Nov 04 2003 02:18 pm

    Ah, I well I hope the audio-reproduction of the ice crunching and milk was recorded accurately with your new Shure SM86 condenser mic! :-)

    Have you tried the "clone" to that mic? Samson makes it.. its a .. (pics mic) C-01. About $120 store bought, $30 extra for the shock mount, cool f case. 48V Phantom Powered Studio Condensor, the pattern is almost identic Shures / Neiman / AudioTechnica similar mics. It doesnt have that super-n bass selector switch, but most decent mixers will have the lo-cut on each balanced channel. Give it a try next time you go to the toy store :)

    Will do. I also have a set of Oktava "pencil" condensers that were pretty cheap, but they sound great. They have more "color" than the Shure's, but I like 'em a lot.

    digital man

    Snapple "Real Fact" #2:
    Animals that lay eggs dont have belly buttons.

    Im looking at Behringer's B2-PRO Dual Diaphragm condenser now... 189 bucks.. and its got a bunch of names attached to it.. Alice Cooper.. Delmar Brown.. Buster Williams. With the quality of the "cheaper" end equaling what you'd pay 10x for.. I just dont see the reason to pay as much as I used to. With what I'd spend on that Shure.. I could get 2 mics, plus another compressor. Im in NO way downing Shure.. they're remarkable... but so are these :D


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  • From Tim Post@VERT to The Lizard Master on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 19:25:49
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: The Lizard Master to Tim Post on Wed Nov 05 2003 10:09 am

    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Tim Post to The Lizard Master on Tue Nov 04 2003 02:20 pm

    We should make an FTP or something to exchange some of our recordings stuff.

    ---TLM


    A royalty free sound byte ftp would be kinda cool. Back in the early 90's recorded a toilet flushing.. made a voc.. and that thing went GLOBAL lol. think it would be some fun :)


    I actaully think I may have downloaded that! :)

    ---TLM


    Could be it was recorded "live" in my bathroom.. worry not.. I think it was a "dry" flush :)


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  • From Darkstorm@VERT/DARKSTOR to tracker1 on Friday, March 12, 2004 11:12:00
    Re: Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: tracker1 to All on Thu May 08 2003 10:39 pm

    I know about 5 or so years ago I found a true studio sound card in one of the mags I read.. was bout $500 for the card but had all the in/outs you could imagine as well as enough other stuff added on that it could have rivaled a small recording studio. Now though.. who knows.. try Creative labs to start. They may have soemthing or try google/excite.

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  • From Spaceman Spiff@VERT to Conscentity on Friday, August 20, 2004 20:15:01
    Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to ALL on Wed May 07 2003 04:25 pm

    What do you guys think of Sony acquiring Sonic Foundry(Sound Forge, Acid, et

    Conscentity

    I think their turning Japanese, I think their turning Japanese, I really
    think so!

    Sorry I couldn't resist. That 80's song just popped into my head when I read that.

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  • From Spaceman Spiff@VERT to The Lizard Master on Friday, August 20, 2004 20:17:35
    Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: The Lizard Master to Conscentity on Wed May 07 2003 09:07 pm

    Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to ALL on Wed May 07 2003 04:25 pm

    What do you guys think of Sony acquiring Sonic Foundry(Sound Forge, Acid,

    Conscentity


    Wow I hadn't heard that. That might be a good thing.

    I was recoring on the computer but have since moved back to hardware using t VF-160. Both have pros and cos, recording in the computer is probably bette but I needed more inputs recoding at once and I didn't want the hassle of installing a sound card for each additional input.

    ---TLM

    I ran my mixing board into my sound card line in. It opened up a lot more options for me.

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  • From Spaceman Spiff@VERT to Conscentity on Friday, August 20, 2004 20:25:53
    Re: RE:Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to The Lizard Master on Thu May 08 2003 02:26 pm

    Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to ALL on Wed May 07 2003 04:25 pm

    What do you guys think of Sony acquiring Sonic Foundry(Sound Forge, Acid, >>
    Conscentity


    Wow I hadn't heard that. That might be a good thing.

    I was recoring on the computer but have since moved back to hardware using >VF-160. Both have pros and cos, recording in the computer is probably bett >but I needed more inputs recoding at once and I didn't want the hassle of >installing a sound card for each additional input.

    ---TLM

    I used to be quite anti-computer when it came from music production, but
    I purchased an audiophile sound card, cubasis, sound forge and acid and
    I've decided that it's a lot nicer to work with recordings with a mouse and something I can visually see on my computer. I usually record one track
    at a time, so I don't need more than 2 inputs. The do have some sound
    cards that can handle multiple inputs. But that starts to get more expensiv

    Conscentity

    I am only using a Turtle beach Montego 2 Quadzilla sound card, it is great for stereo. I would like to do some experimenting with suround sound audio recording on the computer. I am clueless as to what software and hardware I would need. Can it be done with multiple sound cards or do you have to buy a high end card that is designed for this. And what softwre should I use.

    I use Cool Edit Pro V2. As far as I can see, it is only stereo, but it can do a lot of stereo tracks recording and mixing.

    I figure I can create the surround sound recordings I can Burn them to DVD and play them on my DVD surround sound system.

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  • From Conscentity@VERT/SCANNER to Spaceman Spiff on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 14:23:00
    Cubase SX has Surround sound capability, but I have never messed with that before. You'd probably need a sound card that handles 5.1 or something like that. That's all I can think of.

    Conscentity

    Re: RE:Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to The Lizard Master on Thu May 08 2003 02:26 pm

    Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to ALL on Wed May 07 2003 04:25 pm

    What do you guys think of Sony acquiring Sonic Foundry(Sound Forge, Acid, >> >>
    Conscentity


    Wow I hadn't heard that. That might be a good thing.

    I was recoring on the computer but have since moved back to hardware using >> >VF-160. Both have pros and cos, recording in the computer is probably bett >> >but I needed more inputs recoding at once and I didn't want the hassle of >> >installing a sound card for each additional input.

    ---TLM

    I used to be quite anti-computer when it came from music production, but
    I purchased an audiophile sound card, cubasis, sound forge and acid and
    I've decided that it's a lot nicer to work with recordings with a mouse and >> something I can visually see on my computer. I usually record one track
    at a time, so I don't need more than 2 inputs. The do have some sound
    cards that can handle multiple inputs. But that starts to get more expensiv >>
    Conscentity

    I am only using a Turtle beach Montego 2 Quadzilla sound card, it is great for >stereo. I would like to do some experimenting with suround sound audio >recording on the computer. I am clueless as to what software and hardware I >would need. Can it be done with multiple sound cards or do you have to buy a >high end card that is designed for this. And what softwre should I use.

    I use Cool Edit Pro V2. As far as I can see, it is only stereo, but it can do a
    lot of stereo tracks recording and mixing.

    I figure I can create the surround sound recordings I can Burn them to DVD and >play them on my DVD surround sound system.

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  • From CONSCENTITY@VERT/AMATEUR to SPACEMAN SPIFF on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 04:28:00
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    HARSET: LATIN-1
    From: "Conscentity" <conscentity@VERT>

    Cubase SX has Surround sound capability, but I have never messed with that before. You'd probably need a sound card that handles 5.1 or something like that. That's all I can think of.

    Conscentity

    Re: RE:Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to The Lizard Master on Thu May 08 2003 02:26 pm

    Re: Sonic Foundry
    By: Conscentity to ALL on Wed May 07 2003 04:25 pm

    What do you guys think of Sony acquiring Sonic Foundry(Sound Forge, Acid, >> >>
    Conscentity


    Wow I hadn't heard that. That might be a good thing.

    I was recoring on the computer but have since moved back to hardware using >> >VF-160. Both have pros and cos, recording in the computer is probably bett >> >but I needed more inputs recoding at once and I didn't want the hassle of >> >installing a sound card for each additional input.

    ---TLM

    I used to be quite anti-computer when it came from music production, but
    I purchased an audiophile sound card, cubasis, sound forge and acid and
    I've decided that it's a lot nicer to work with recordings with a mouse and >> something I can visually see on my computer. I usually record one track
    at a time, so I don't need more than 2 inputs. The do have some sound
    cards that can handle multiple inputs. But that starts to get more expensiv >>
    Conscentity

    I am only using a Turtle beach Montego 2 Quadzilla sound card, it is great for >stereo. I would like to do some experimenting with suround sound audio >recording on the computer. I am clueless as to what software and hardware I >would need. Can it be done with multiple sound cards or do you have to buy a >high end card that is designed for this. And what softwre should I use.

    I use Cool Edit Pro V2. As far as I can see, it is only stereo, but it can do a
    lot of stereo tracks recording and mixing.

    I figure I can create the surround sound recordings I can Burn them to DVD and >play them on my DVD surround sound system.

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