Master File Listing Supplementary
Batch File v11.5 For Synchronet BBS

**** NOW INCLUDES MYSTIC VERSION! ****

Compiled and updated by:
$ The Millionaire $

Follow the instructions and Enjoy!

(c) 2013 Park Avenue Place Productions.

Get It While It's Hot! :-)

Can Be Obtained Through Vertrauen BBS!

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Re: New Version 11.5
By: The Millionaire to All on Mon Oct 21 2013 12:42 pm

Master File Listing Supplementary
Batch File v11.5 For Synchronet BBS

**** NOW INCLUDES MYSTIC VERSION! ****

Compiled and updated by:
$ The Millionaire $

how do you compile a batchfile?

okay i looked at the batchfiles. why did you do this?

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Re: New Version 11.5
By: Mro to The Millionaire on Mon Oct 21 2013 05:04 pm

Compiled and updated by:
$ The Millionaire $

how do you compile a batchfile?

Perhaps he means compiled, as in put together, for a compilation.

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how do you compile a batchfile?

Perhaps he means compiled, as in put together, for a compilation.
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Thank you Froggyme. That was exactly what I meant. :-)

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: The Millionaire to Froggyme on Sat Nov 02 2013 04:35 pm

how do you compile a batchfile?

Perhaps he means compiled, as in put together, for a compilation.

you probably shouldnt distribute stuff like that.

i dont see what you were trying to accomplish.

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Perhaps he means compiled, as in put together, for a compilation.

you probably shouldnt distribute stuff like that.

i dont see what you were trying to accomplish.
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Mr. O, I wrote this program for a reason in the first place. I am
contributing to the Synchronet community by helping out new sysops get on
their way. The original program does nothing to the effect that my supplementary program does. This automates a generated file list daily and moves it into a designated dir of your choosing. If you have a problem with
my program, then don't use it. Simply plain enough.

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Re: New Version 11.5
By: Froggyme to Mro on Sat Nov 02 2013 12:51:54

how do you compile a batchfile?

FYI bat2com, bat2exec, batcom, quickbfc, etc.
and yes sounds like a compilation of works or whatever.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: The Millionaire to Mro on Sat Nov 02 2013 10:08 pm

you probably shouldnt distribute stuff like that.

i dont see what you were trying to accomplish.
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Mr. O, I wrote this program for a reason in the first place. I am contributing to the Synchronet community by helping out new sysops get on their way. The original program does nothing to the effect that my supplementary program does. This automates a generated file list daily and moves it into a designated dir of your choosing. If you have a problem with my program, then don't use it. Simply plain enough.
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stop quoting people's bbs origin lines. it prevents them from quoting your text.

your 'program' is a batchfile with commands for that anybody could find with programname.exe /?

i still dont get why you think it's useful enough to distribute.

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Re: New Version 11.5
By: KF5QEO to Froggyme on Sun Nov 03 2013 12:57 am

Re: New Version 11.5
By: Froggyme to Mro on Sat Nov 02 2013 12:51:54

how do you compile a batchfile?

FYI bat2com, bat2exec, batcom, quickbfc, etc.
and yes sounds like a compilation of works or whatever.

you were taking that question literal. he has not compiled it and please dont get him started on it.

it's just a batchfile with commands

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Mro wrote to The Millionaire <=-

your 'program' is a batchfile with commands for that anybody could find with programname.exe /?

i still dont get why you think it's useful enough to distribute.

He's likely saved at least a handful of others from having to write a
batchfile themselves, and so long as one or two find it useful, what's
the hurt in distributing?

If you don't want to carry the file, then don't. It's not the first
time someone distributed batchfiles, and it won't be the last. I've
been known to download bash scripts when they came in handy. And, DOS
command scripting has become a lost art, many people don't even think
about stringing commands together in a BAT file... having some
available to download and look at can be a learning experience.


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He's likely saved at least a handful of others from having to write a
batchfile themselves, and so long as one or two find it useful, what's
the hurt in distributing?

If you don't want to carry the file, then don't. It's not the first
time someone distributed batchfiles, and it won't be the last. I've
been known to download bash scripts when they came in handy. And, DOS
command scripting has become a lost art, many people don't even think
about stringing commands together in a BAT file... having some
available to download and look at can be a learning experience.

Thanks Dreamer. That made my day. :-)

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Dreamer to Mro on Sun Nov 03 2013 01:45 pm

He's likely saved at least a handful of others from having to write a batchfile themselves, and so long as one or two find it useful, what's
the hurt in distributing?

go look at it for yourself.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Mro to Dreamer on Sun Nov 03 2013 07:05 pm

He's likely saved at least a handful of others from having to write a
batchfile themselves, and so long as one or two find it useful, what's
the hurt in distributing?

go look at it for yourself.

I did, he's also distributing a copy of PKZIP.EXE which last I checked was copyrighted software, but 1993, is 2.04g considered freeware now?

Also I'd personally be worried that someone might try these .bat files and end up hosing their system.

Might want to consider adding to the readme something like "Backup your system before using."

I'd also maybe add some "if exists" lines to make sure you don't accidentally do something that puts something in the wrong place.

Also you use a set command to set sbbsctrl to c:\sbbs\ctrl\. Well, what if I have my bbs in c:\sbbs3 or d:\sbbs\? Ya just changed my enviornment variable.

If you're gonna change directories, you should try returning the user to whatever folder they called the .bat file from.

Use:
set olddir=%CD%

...at the beginning of your bat, then when you're done just...

cd /d %olddir%

...to go back.

Ton of explicit directory paths, would be better to find pkzip or test to see if pkzip is in the system path instead of requiring users to move files into other folders.

yeah, by the time I would get this working on my system I don't know I wouldn't be able to figure out everything on my own.

You call DELFILES without much explination of what you're deleting.
...
I made some changed that figures out where all the files are, that way you can just extract all the files into their own folder (anywhere on the sytem) and just run filelist <filebasename>

Who puts ECHO Y | DEL *.* into a batch file? What if some weird circumstance occured and the batch file happened to be in c:\ when that command was called?

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@ECHO OFF
exit
if %sbbsctrl%=="" goto error1
if %1=="" goto error2

SET BBSNAME=PARKAVE

SET olddir=%CD%
CD %sbbsctrl%

for %i in (addfiles.exe) do @set tempexe=%~dp$PATH:i
CD /D %tempexe%
ADDFILES * -L FILES -S -N -Z -X "Sysop"

for %i in (delfiles.exe) do @set tempexe=%~dp$PATH:i
DELFILES * -NOT UPLOADS -NOT PRIVATE -OFF -NOL

for %i in (DUPEFIND.exe) do @set tempexe=%~dp$PATH:i
CD /D %tempexe%
DUPEFIND 1 1

for %i in (FILELIST.exe) do @set tempexe=%~dp$PATH:i
CD /D %tempexe%
FILELIST * -LIB FILES -NOT UPLOADS -NOT SYSOP -CAT -HDR -CDT -ULD -DLS -NOE -JST %BBSNAME%.TXT

COPY %BBSNAME%.TXT %sbbsexec%\..\DATA\DIRS\%1
MOVE %BBSNAME%.TXT %olddir%
CD /D %olddir%

for %i in (pkzip.exe) do @set tempexe=%~dp$PATH:i
%tempexe%\PKZIP -EX %BBSNAME% BBSLOGO.ANS BBSLOGO.ASC FILE_ID.DIZ %BBSNAME%.TXT MOVE %BBSNAME%.ZIP %sbbsexec%\..\DATA\DIRS\%1

rem you should never do this in a batch file:
rem ECHO Y|DEL *.*
del %bbsname%.txt

echo done...
exit

:error1
echo SBBSCTRL folder not set. Using Synchronet?
pause
exit

:error2
echo You need to pass the filearea data path.
echo for instance if you want this file posted to the MFL filearea
echo then run FileList.bat MFL
pause
exit
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Either way I don't think I'd run this on my system, too many possible bad things....

man this standard time is messing with my head.
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Either way I don't think I'd run this on my system, too many possible bad things....

man this standardtime is messing with my head.
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Well it has been tested many times over and it runs perfectly on my system. I have not heard any negativity towards any exploitation that this program involves. Are you sure you're not trying to butcher me and take full credit ffor a program I decided to write because nobody else cared to? Something to ponder about there. Yes every person programs differently because everyone is taught differently. Do you that DM and Deuce program identically? No, because they were both taught at different times and different schools. So there.
Just my 1c for the day. If you have a beef then feel free to email me in private at the address in my package. Don't humiliate someone in public. It demoralizes your state of behaviourism.

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The Millionaire wrote to Dreamer <=-

He's likely saved at least a handful of others from having to write a batchfile themselves, and so long as one or two find it useful, what's
the hurt in distributing?

If you don't want to carry the file, then don't. It's not the first
time someone distributed batchfiles, and it won't be the last. I've
been known to download bash scripts when they came in handy. And, DOS command scripting has become a lost art, many people don't even think about stringing commands together in a BAT file... having some
available to download and look at can be a learning experience.

Thanks Dreamer. That made my day. :-)

NP, it's the truth as I can see it.

BTW, what editor are you using for replies?


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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Android8675 to Mro on Sun Nov 03 2013 09:34 pm

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Either way I don't think I'd run this on my system, too many possible bad things....

people dont even need to use it.
i dont see how it would help anybody period.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5


By: The Millionaire to Android8675 on Mon Nov 04 2013 01:03 pm

Well it has been tested many times over and it runs perfectly on my system. I have not heard any negativity towards any exploitation that this program involves. Are you sure you're not trying to butcher me and take full credit

it's a batchfile, not a program.

It demoralizes your state of behaviourism.

oh christ.

also, you do not even HAVE a system. you have no public bbs and never HAVE
had a public bbs.
why would you even have files on your bbs when you never have had it online
and probably never will? you use someone else's internet access so you can not
host a bbs server.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Android8675 to Mro on Sun Nov 03 2013 21:34:41

I did, he's also distributing a copy of PKZIP.EXE which last I checked was copyrighted software, but 1993, is 2.04g considered freeware now?

O.k. I really am going to regret jumping into this peeing contest here.

Regardless of the copyright status, Pkzip as far as I am aware of

allows redistribution as long as it is distributed in whole. Distribute the original self extracting exe file and your covered. I'm guessing he didn't.

A preferred method would be distributing infozip's unzip.exe, however, I'm

pretty sure that infozip allows distribution as long as you enclose the license file stating it is free. I know infozip's unzip and zip are distributed with wildcat/winserver.

I know in this day and age, assuming anything about an operating system is

rather crazy, but you could embed all the files using a debug script or something similiar, but then you risk the sysop not having debug.exe on the particular os. Even if it was origially installed by default, some sysop's like to strip down their operating system.

Use wget.exe to download any missing files, and perhaps check for updates,

but then again, gotta distribute wget.exe with the batch file.

The best option is a program I had that I thik was batcom that you had to

register, you give it a directory that you store all your junk in, it creates a environment variable, you then use that environment variable to referece
your files, and do what you have to do... I think Quickbatch compiler does about the same.

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NP, it's the truth as I can see it.

BTW, what editor are you using for replies?

I'm just copying and pasting into the editor since you can't use the editor
in reply mode yet in Mystic yet. :-)

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I did, he's also distributing a copy of PKZIP.EXE which last I checkedwas copyrighted software, but 1993, is 2.04g considered freeware now?

PKWare Inc. went down years ago therefore the program is now obsolete which
is appropriate to distribute. A lot of Sysops have told me this in passing.

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people dont even need to use it.
i dont see how it would help anybody period.

Did you bother to even to read the file_id.diz? It says that it is master
file list creator supplementary program.

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oh christ.

also, you do not even HAVE a system. you have no public bbs and never HAVE
had a public bbs.
why would you even have files on your bbs when you never have had it online
and probably never will? you use someone else's internet access so you can not
host a bbs server.

i have run Synchronet before since DM has logged on many years ago to look
over things. I run a shadow bbs right now under an umbrella. It's not my
fault for that one. So quit your nit-picking.

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The best option is a program I had that I thik was batcom that you had to

register, you give it a directory thatyou store all your junk in, it creates a environment variable, you then use that environment variable to referece
your files, and do what you have to do... I think Quickbatch compiler does about the same.

Geez...

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: The Millionaire to Dreamer on Mon Nov 04 2013 01:42 pm

NP, it's the truth as I can see it.

BTW, what editor are you using for replies?

I'm just copying and pasting into the editor since you can't use the editor in reply mode yet in Mystic yet. :-)

yeah it looks fucking weird.

are you SURE you cant use the editor in reply mode? cause that
would be really messed up.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: The Millionaire to Android8675 on Mon Nov 04 2013 01:49 pm

I did, he's also distributing a copy of PKZIP.EXE which last I checkedwas copyrighted software, but 1993, is 2.04g considered freeware now?

you distributed pkzip.exe, not the distro archive or distro sfx

no it's not freeware

PKWare Inc. went down years ago therefore the program is now obsolete which is appropriate to distribute. A lot of Sysops have told me this in passing.

that's not true. pkware still exists.

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yeah it looks fucking weird.

are you SURE you cant use the editor in reply mode? cause that
would be really messed up.

It sends me to the editor when I reply but it doesn't quote for some reason
so I just copy and paste. Does the job though.

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you distributed pkzip.exe, not the distro archive or distro sfx

no it's not freeware

Renegade BBS installation package comes with PKZIP.EXE. PLus, another
argument is DM included Info-Zip with Synchronet v3.13a. So what's up with that? I never saw no license or distribution archive there. Explain that one for me. *sighs*

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: The Millionaire to Mro on Mon Nov 04 2013 01:51 pm

people dont even need to use it.
i dont see how it would help anybody period.

Did you bother to even to read the file_id.diz? It says that it is master file list creator supplementary program.

i looked at your 'program' and saw it was shit and not useful for anything
that a user cant do on their own. i still dont get your mindset behind this. you should just delete it from vert.

you think people cant type a couple of commands for the file lister program?

also, as the other guy pointed out, it's entirely tailored to your system.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: The Millionaire to Mro on Mon Nov 04 2013 01:54 pm

i have run Synchronet before since DM has logged on many years ago to look over things. I run a shadow bbs right now under an umbrella. It's not my fault for that one. So quit your nit-picking.

shadow bbs under an umbrella.


jesus christ.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: The Millionaire to Android8675 on Mon Nov 04 2013 01:49 pm

Back in the pool I guess...

PKWare Inc. went down years ago therefore the program is now obsolete which is appropriate to distribute. A lot of Sysops have told me this in passing.

PKware is alive and well. Don't know what their status is on the 2.04g license. I sent them a message asking for clarification, but you can get the latest PKZIP for DOS (v2.50) at the following link:

http://www.pkware.com/software/pkzip/dos

It's $47 bucks, and you don't get support. Current PKZIP for Windows (v14.2) has a CLI so that's also an option if you're running Windows 64-bit.

I personally switched to 7Zip for everything on my board a while ago. Open Source, free. (http://7-zip.org/license.txt)
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On 11-05-13, The Millionaire said the following...

NP, it's the truth as I can see it.

BTW, what editor are you using for replies?

I'm just copying and pasting into the editor since you can't use the editor in reply mode yet in Mystic yet. :-)

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What? The Mystic editor doesn't do quotes in replies? Since when?

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On 11-05-13, The Millionaire said the following...

yeah it looks fucking weird.

are you SURE you cant use the editor in reply mode? cause that
would be really messed up.

It sends me to the editor when I reply but it doesn't quote for some reason so I just copy and paste. Does the job though.

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|06Surrey, |09B.C., |12C|15a|12n|15a|12d|15a

--- Mystic BBS v1.10 A38 (Windows)
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In the editor, type /Q to bring up the quote window.
Are you in the full screen editor, or the line editor?

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: The Millionaire to Mro on Mon Nov 04 2013 09:41 pm

yeah it looks fucking weird.

are you SURE you cant use the editor in reply mode? cause that
would be really messed up.

It sends me to the editor when I reply but it doesn't quote for some reason so I just copy and paste. Does the job though.

|10$ The Millionaire $

contact the author.

it does the job of making shit look fucking weird.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: The Millionaire to Mro on Mon Nov 04 2013 09:47 pm

you distributed pkzip.exe, not the distro archive or distro sfx

no it's not freeware

Renegade BBS installation package comes with PKZIP.EXE. PLus, another

that means nothing.

PLus, another
argument is DM included Info-Zip with Synchronet v3.13a. So what's up with that? I never saw no license or distribution archive there. Explain that

one for me. *sighs*

i'm pretty sure the command lines in scfg's data files were changed
to infozip's format. i dont believe rob swindell is distributing infozip
with OR without license information.

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I'm just copying and pasting into the editor since you can't use the editor in reply mode yet in Mystic yet. :-)

What? The Mystic editor doesn't do quotes in replies? Since when?

I've tried telling him about the "/" commands inside the message editor. He doesn't seem to grasp that, and blames Mystic for it not quoting the entire message for him. :(

Regards,
Nick

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In the editor, type /Q to bring up the quote window.
Are you in the full screen editor, or the line editor?

The line editor.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Gryphon to The Millionaire on Tue Nov 05 2013 09:51 am

BTW, what editor are you using for replies?

I'm just copying and pasting into the editor since you can't use the editor in reply mode yet in Mystic yet. :-)

What? The Mystic editor doesn't do quotes in replies? Since when?

yeah especially since g00r00 has been posting on msg nets using it.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Access Denied to Gryphon on Tue Nov 05 2013 06:06 pm

What? The Mystic editor doesn't do quotes in replies? Since when?

I've tried telling him about the "/" commands inside the message editor. He doesn't seem to grasp that, and blames Mystic for it not quoting the entire message for him. :(

oh my fucking god.
just when i think i have seen all forms of weirdness, craziness and stupidity in the bbs world.

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On 11-06-13, The Millionaire said the following...

In the editor, type /Q to bring up the quote window.
Are you in the full screen editor, or the line editor?

The line editor.

I just tried it with the line editor too. the /Q quote function works in
both full screen and line editor with no problems.

You have to remember to make sure the /Q is ON THE FIRST COLUMN. If you do
it in any other column, it won't work. I suspect you are trying it when it
is not in the first column.

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You have to remember to make sure the /Q is ON THE FIRST COLUMN. If you do it in any other column, it won't work. I suspectyou are trying it
when it is not in the first column.

That is probably was the problem I was having. The cursor was elsewhere therefore obstructing me from activating it. You have to understand that I am new to mystic and have not yet grasped all the concepts. Does Mystic have a fossil driver built in? i tried using iceedit and it said "unable to open fossil driver" or something to that effect.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Mro to Access Denied on Tue Nov 05 2013 10:22 pm

oh my fucking god.
just when i think i have seen all forms of weirdness, craziness and stupidity in the bbs world.

As soon as you think you've seen all the crazy, they'll make more.

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It sends me to the editor when I reply but it doesn't quote for some r so I just copy and paste. Does the job though.

contact theauthor.

it does the job of making shit look fucking weird.

It's not the author's fault. You've used Mystic before. It works just fine. He's copy/pasting text into the editor instead of quoting it, because he apparantly doesn't know how to quote -- even though he's been told the "/Q" option IN the editor many times.

Regards,
Nick

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i'm pretty sure the command lines in scfg's data files were changed
to infozip's format. i dont believe rob swindell is distributing infozip with OR without license information.

From looking at CVS, it looks like zip and unzip were distrobuted at one
time, but now they're marked (dead) and the reason they were removed is
because they're unnecessary.

Basically, the archiving commands are in scfg, but it is up to you to install the archivers on your OS, whichever ones you want to use. They're also listed as prerequisites now.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: The Millionaire to Gryphon on Wed Nov 06 2013 12:39 pm

You have to remember to make sure the /Q is ON THE FIRST COLUMN. If you do it in any other column, it won't work. I suspectyou are trying it when it is not in the first column.

That is probably was the problem I was having. The cursor was elsewhere therefore obstructing me from activating it. You have to understand that I am new to mystic and have not yet grasped all the concepts. Does Mystic

/q is a universal quote command key with bbs softwares pretty much, dude.

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On 11-06-13, The Millionaire said the following...

You have to remember to make sure the /Q is ON THE FIRST COLUMN. If do it in any other column, it won't work. Isuspectyou are trying it when it is not in the first column.

That is probably was the problem I was having. The cursor was elsewhere therefore obstructing me from activating it. You have to understand that
I am new to mystic and have not yet graspedall the concepts. Does Mystic have a fossil driver built in? i tried using iceedit and it said "unable to open fossil driver" or something to that effect.

Unfortunately, Mystic does not have the ability to use external editors at
this time. Mystic does not use fossil drivers as far as I know. I use the linux version, but I've used the windows as well, and never needed it for Mystic proper. Doors might need it, but not Mystic.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Access Denied to Mro on Wed Nov 06 2013 03:18 pm

it does the job of making shit look fucking weird.

It's not the author's fault. You've used Mystic before. It works just fine. He's copy/pasting text into the editor instead of quoting it, because he apparantly doesn't know how to quote -- even though he's been told the "/Q" option IN the editor many times.

yeah i didnt think it was the software because i've seen g00r00 post multiple times. i was just trying to push weirdo here on him for suppt.

pretty sure /Q is the defacto standard for most bbs software editors

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Access Denied to Mro on Wed Nov 06 2013 03:22 pm

i'm pretty sure the command lines in scfg's data files were changed
to infozip's format. i dont believe rob swindell is distributing infozip with OR without license information.

From looking at CVS, it looks like zip and unzip were distrobuted at one time, but now they're marked (dead) and the reason they were removed is because they're unnecessary.

Basically, the archiving commands are in scfg, but it is up to you to install the archivers on your OS, whichever ones you want to use. They're also listed as prerequisites now.

yeah i didnt do too much digging but i did have an archive where i patched up from 3.1X to current binaries and didnt see infozip or license docs.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Access Denied to Gryphon on Tue Nov 05 2013 06:06 pm

What? The Mystic editor doesn't do quotes in replies? Since when?

I've tried telling him about the "/" commands inside the message editor. He doesn't seem to grasp that, and blames Mystic for it not quoting the entire message for him. :(

<quote> Mr> oh my fucking god. </quote>

ZOMG! ;)

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Mro to Access Denied on Tue Nov 05 2013 10:22 pm

oh my fucking god.
just when i think i have seen all forms of weirdness, craziness and stupidity in the bbs world.

As soon as you think you've seen all the crazy, they'll make more.

Didn't you know that the "crazy" prize is in every box of Cracker Jacks? ;)

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Mro had something to say to The Millionaire <=-

/q is a universal quote command key with bbs softwares pretty much,
dude.

/facepalm

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Android8675 to The Millionaire on Mon Nov 04 2013 21:15:24

PKware is alive and well. Don't know what their status is on the 2.04g license. I sent them a message asking for clarification, but you can get
the latest PKZIP for DOS (v2.50) at the following link: http://www.pkware.com/software/pkzip/dos
It's $47 bucks, and you don't get support. Current PKZIP for Windows
(v14.2) has a CLI so that's also an option if you're running Windows

Wow, just get linux and apt-get install zip

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yeah i didnt think it was the software because i've seen g00r00 post multiple times. i was just trying to push weirdo here on him for suppt.

No need. g00r00 has enough to deal with rather than answering questions like that. In the future, just point people to the MYSTIC echo in Fidonet where someone else can answer. :)

pretty sure /Q is the defacto standard for most bbs software editors

I wouldn't say defacto standard, but definitely very popular in the
forum-style BBS softwares. There aren't a ton of ways to save and quote messages on a BBS, and /Q, /S, etc was definitely one of the few popular ones.

Some just need to realize Synchronet is not the end-all be-all software, and that other softwares are not going to do things exactly the way Synchronet
does it. That's why Mystic came about. Uniqueness/doing things differently is why there are different BBS softwares out there.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: KF5QEO to Android8675 on Fri Nov 08 2013 07:57 am

http://www.pkware.com/software/pkzip/dos
It's $47 bucks, and you don't get support. Current PKZIP for Windows (v14.2) has a CLI so that's also an option if you're running Windows

Wow, just get linux and apt-get install zip

yeah run a whole 'nother operating system for one utility.

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Access Denied to Mro on Fri Nov 08 2013 02:02 pm

Some just need to realize Synchronet is not the end-all be-all software,
and that other softwares are not going to do things exactly the way Synchronet does it. That's why Mystic came about. Uniqueness/doing things differently is why there are different BBS softwares out there.

i miss iniquity.

atleast we now have a 32bit renegade port

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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Mro to The Millionaire on Tue Nov 05 2013 04:17 pm

Renegade BBS installation package comes with PKZIP.EXE. PLus, another

that means nothing.

argument is DM included Info-Zip with Synchronet v3.13a. So what's up
with that? I never saw no license or distribution archive there.
Explain that
one for me. *sighs*

i'm pretty sure the command lines in scfg's data files were changed
to infozip's format. i dont believe rob swindell is distributing infozip with OR without license information.

I'm back. So I told ya I reached out to PKWARE... Well a guy named Scott Daniel's wrote back to me. PKWARE is still kickin, and their licence/copyright for PKZIP 2.04g is still valid.

I also found out that you cannot distribute the program WITHOUT a distribution license (no word on pricing, but it's not free). What I believe that means is that if you want to use it for your own "program", ya gotta pay a licensing fee.

I have no idea with the deal is with infozip though or even who makes it, but I'm curious.

Original email, pasted below...

-A.

³ Subj: RE: Contact Us Form Submission
³ Attr: Read
³ To : android8675@shodan.synchro.net #1
³ From: Scott Daniels (scott.daniels@pkware.com)
³ Date: Tue Nov 05 2013 08:41 pm UTC ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄúúúúúú

Hi Andy,

To answer your question, yes PKZIP 2.04G is still PKWARE's product. Even t= hough this product is very old, it can not be distributed without purchasin= g a Distribution License which would provide the legal rights to distribute=
our intellectual property.

I can better assist you once I understand what is prompting your interest i= n distribution of our software. Is this something for your company?

Thanks,

Scott Daniels
OEM Licensing

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PKWARE, Inc.
648 N. Plankinton Avenue
Suite 220
Milwaukee, WI 53203
Direct:414-221-0135
Fax:917-464-7876
www.pkware.com<http://www.pkware.com>
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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: KF5QEO to Android8675 on Fri Nov 08 2013 07:57 am

Wow, just get linux and apt-get install zip

Hey, I didn't say I was going to run out and buy it, just saying if yer gonna use copyrighted tools in your software, you should look into these things. See my above message. Sorry I'm beating a dead horse now aren't I?
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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Mro to KF5QEO on Fri Nov 08 2013 04:55 pm

yeah run a whole 'nother operating system for one utility.

I'm actually running XP, and Debian virtually in Win7 at the moment.
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Re: Re: New Version 11.5
By: Android8675 to Mro on Sun Nov 10 2013 08:47 am

I also found out that you cannot distribute the program WITHOUT a distribution license (no word on pricing, but it's not free). What I
believe that means is that if you want to use it for your own "program", ya gotta pay a licensing fee.

I have no idea with the deal is with infozip though or even who makes it, but I'm curious.

the pkzip guys are pretty cool. they'd probably give someone a deal on
pkzipc. infozip is released under gnu licensing i believe.

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